Dyno testing the Unitronic 4" Intake System VS the Integrated Engineering Intake System - Audi RS3
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- Опубликовано: 29 ноя 2019
- Unitronic finally released their long awaited 4" intake system for the Audi RS3. I got my hands on one as soon as I possibly could. I then went straight to Evolution Auto Performance to have a dyno comparison done to see which system makes more power. I was thrilled with the results and am very happy with yet another Unitronic purchase for my RS3. Here are the links to both the intake and the turbo inlet that I have previously compared and tested:
www.getunitronic.com/parts/in...
www.getunitronic.com/parts/in...
Here is a link to the video of the dyno comparison I did of the Unitronic 4" Turbo Inlet:
• Dyno Testing the Unitr...
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As usual, thanks for the great info, Adam. There are a lot of us that appreciate all the work you do to answer the questions we all wonder about!
No problem. Glad I could be of help!
Great video. Short but informative intro and then straight to the dyno! And the enthusiasm is as awesome as usual!
Thanks!
Now that's some quality useful content and data! Keep it up Adam
Thanks!
Excellent content as always Adam! You deserve way more views!! Keep it up👍
Thank you very much!!!
Awesome video. Made up my mind when I’m ready for an intake
Thanks
Nice mate , was wondering what to get next weeks for my ttrs , thanks for that!
No problem! Glad I could be of assistance
Nice job making the comparison equal!
Trying my best!
Can't wait to see the results! and subbed.
Thanks for the sub! This is an extremely old video though and I have pushed the car much harder and made much more power since then: ruclips.net/video/a_g25BQJhzE/видео.html
Wicked #s!Keep up the good work.Just bought a S3.Keep making vids so in a year from now when I trade up to a RS3 I will know what the best parts selection to use!
I'll do my best!
So, I want to higlight some facts I observed... The very first IE pull seemed weird, as the torque was way less than on all other runs... and he actually mentioned slipping or something like that in the video... And if we only compare always the 2nd dyno runs, the results are actually as follows:
IE: 570.2hp / 553.3lb-ft
U-RF: 567.6 hp / 551.6 lb-ft
U-SF: 565.7 hp / 549.4 lb-ft
Suddenly data speaks more for the IE 🧐 ...
Not saying any is better, just that these are my observations on these runs
I wish the first run on the IE setup didn't stutter/slip/pause, whatever the heck it did to make the lower numbers. Would have made the results more accurate.
Keeping IE on mine for sure
@@boostenmkiv i agree...i feel the IE intake performed better...especially on the second run where it was a bit heatsoaked
Peak gains are cool but to me the more important figures are the average power and torque gains of 10hp and 12lbft! That's pretty solid for swapping intakes.
Another great video Adam! I am a current 2019 SQ5 Prestige owner with a JB4 on it. Hopefully, I may secure a 2019 RS3 soon and will be looking to add some power items without a potential TD1 issue for service. I may go with a 4" Air intake and Turbo Inlet from Unitronic and a JB4 unit for a reasonable bump in power. I don't mind keeping the power increase mild to maintain the warranty for the time being as I can just unplug the JB4 before service. Ultimately, I may go with a Stage 1+ ECU and Stage 2 TCU tune from Unitronic after awhile. Thanks again for the product comparison!
No problem. Thanks for watching and good luck with the new vehicle purchase.
solid vid again Adam!
Thanks!
Yo! Great vid again.. I almost bought the unitronic intake. But their dealer in Belgium said it was going to take a while etc... so I bought the AWE 4.5" full carbon intake.
Will be matched to their 4" elbow intake though.. think all these intakes are not a bad choice and all perform +/- the same...
@@mhillenaar seems like quite a few people picked up the AWE intake because they didn't have the patience to wait for the Unitronic one to launch, haha. I'm sure it'll make gains. I just don't know how much
awesome vid !! your the man !
Thanks!
Thanks Adam. First to give you a thumbs up today.
Haha, thanks!
Love the progress Adam!.. Have you started on the exhaust yet?.. looking forward to that!. 👍👍
We haven't yet. More than likely will be waiting until Spring to make that piece.
Your pulling me to the darkside🤣 From a 340i owner; RS3 or TTRS for my next adventure. Damn you. Keep the vids coming because they are very informative as well as entertaining as 💩
Thanks for the kind words! I'm glad you're finding the videos enjoyable and informative!
Great video Adam! Any comments on the sound from the intake? Are the turbo spooling noises louder with the Uni compared to IE?
Haven't put on enough miles to tell yet. Sounds identical to me so far.
Now that some time has gone by, is there an intake that you recommend? I am stuck between buying the IE and Unitronic. I have no tune on my car, this would be my first mod. Great content by the way!
Thanks for watching! The Unitronic 4" intake system with the 4" turbo inlet has provided me solid gains! You won't see as big a gain with no tune on your car but it will most certainly help make it breathe a bit easier.
Adam, did the unitronic intake system fit their turbo inlet better than the IE? From what I understand the IE needs a small bit of work to adapt to the 4" unitronic turbo Inlet. How does the quality of the 2 seem from fit/finish?
The Unitronic intake pairs up perfectly with their inlet. The Integrated Engineering intake just needed to be twisted and turned a but to fit well. Nothing major though.
Best content brother ! Do you know when unitronic will release this air intake to australia ? Also how much did it set you back with the racing filter ?
Sorry, I honestly have no idea. Best to email them directly to ask that. The racing filter was an additional $52.
This is massive power on a stock turbo
I love watching you’re RS3 develop .At what BHP will the stock internals need changed ??
It isn't the horsepower you need to worry about. It is the torque. I used to believe that it was above 500lb/ft you need to upgrade your internals. Now I'm starting to feel like the motor can handle more as long as the power comes on later in the rev range.
Thanks for putting in the time with all your videos, quick question. Are you limited to the tune in terms of gains? I'm putting in the uni 4" inlet and the uni 4" carbon fiber intake this week and running the Uni Stg. 1 tune which produces the advertised 476HP / 469TQ . By installing these bolt ons, would you know if i'm limited to the tune specs for power output or would I gain some power over the advertised numbers w/ just the tune..
On stage 1 I imagine those will provide a little more power still. On stage 2 they'll be required to make the advertised power figures
Vancity Audi thank you!
Good stuff. Science.
Would love to see you testing yours Unitronic vs 4-inch-APR system.
Do u think APR is doing a great job? Like Unitronic?
I think APR is a subpar company compared to Unitronic
(1) Any trap speed increases or 60-130 mph decreases from IE to Unitronic 4” intake? I acknowledge apples-to-apples is difficult with different DA’s, road conditions, e-content, other hardware changes, and any software changes. (2) How do IE and Unitronic compare in sound now that you’ve been back on the road? I know everyone has different noise preferences.
1) Sadly I have no idea. I never did that type of performance testing with these 2 parts, sorry. 2) I think the IE part may have been a tad quieter if I can remember all the way back, but seeing as they are both mainly closed units they remain pretty quiet which I was thankful for.
Really informative video Adam.. thanks for that..
Question though. Would my stock engine not be able to handle that setup seeing as the max wtq number the stock engine can handle is probably 520ish?? What ya think? 550 wtq is amazing. My jaw dropped lol My setup is same as yours apart the inlet and intake.
On Unitronic software you will be totally fine. The power hits later and pulls harder up top. It is way easier on your internals. Plus I'm running the standard production file on this video. It is meant for a stock motor.
Ok cool. I figured that was the answer. I can definitely feel the boost hit on CC vs Unitronic. Man your car is a beast. Your probably making more power than advertised on their website hahaha.. good job again.🚀🚀🚀🔥🔥
Outside the the 2 outliers (if the RS3 is anything like most MQB cars the first one usually has the most timing corrections) they all run 570/550 and have the exact same area under curve. If the Uni could have reproduced that 3500-4500 area you might be onto something about it being superior. Logs of the runs would be telling. Good stuff though, keep it up.
Dirk Actually ... comparing only the second runs the IE had the best result. Unfortunately Adam didn’t spot that.
Adam just to clear it up those are whp numbers right & you got that Unitronic Inlet pipe as well on with the intake here?
Yes, all the numbers I have ever posted from my dyno testing are wheel horsepower. As stated at the beginning of the video I am running the 4" Unitronic turbo inlet with their new intake.
Vancity Audi got it.
unitronic intake definitely sounded more throaty. im debating between this or the eventuri
You should have put a new integrated engineering filter that would had made a diff , but l think its between dyno error reading and coolant temp etc(difference on the dyno), your best bet its to measure a 100-150km and 100-200km time(dragy or vbox) with both intakes, log all the parameters and see real data with the gps tool, but good vid man l enjoy it .
Go for it! Lol. It's always should have, would have, could have! I'd love to see those performance numbers compared between the intakes too
@@VancityAudi wherever you like it or not your test was not made well , first off you need to compare new filters, log etc , it would have been better to flow bench the intakes and see the cfm and pressure loss capability of each other than dyno them ....sorry but your effort it's useless without the correct data , and here you do not have it, you dont seem to understand the dyno error and motor-ECU adaptations between pulls and hardware change.Have a nice day .
@@jpsr20det I'll wait till you put in the money, effort and most importantly time to do your own comparisons for everyone else to benefit from by making videos for us all. I'll then take notes on how it is supposed to be done and will improve my efforts moving forward.
Finally!!!! Someone that put their Unitronic stage 2 e85 on the dyno to get #s! I have been searching and searching forums for someone with actual #s since Unitronic states 621hp 564tq at the crank. Very very impressive that you are making those numbers on just a stage 2 to the wheels. Question though About your torque #s, your making 550ish wtq ? Did unitronic tweak your file since you have a built motor now or is that just their basic off the shelf stage 2 e85 set up?
I am just using the production files available to everyone that purchases Unitronic software. They have no altered or changed the files for me.
Vancity Audi then that is extremely impressive numbers to the wheels !! I can’t imagine once a hybrid turbo is installed
@@SniperX-vc9dk ya, it was super cold so it made more power. Plus I have a feeling that dyno may read a little high. Hard to imagine I'm making that much power.
Vancity Audi I think on a dynojet maybe 530-540 whp , I’m going to be installing the same set up here shortly and will be getting it on a mustang dyno which is the lowest ready dyno and will post numbers. I’m curious what it’ll make but I’m sure it’ll be pleasant
@@SniperX-vc9dk Stay tuned to the channel because coming up this weekend I'll be uploading a video of a 3 way dyno comparison running the Unitronic Stage 2 - 93 file. I will highlight the huge differences in the way different branded dyno's read.
The Eventuri air intake system is boasting as being the best currently. To me it looks like the best air intake, have you done any tests on it yet?
I'm willing to bet money it's not. That system does not look like it can flow as much air. This is my preferred intake today: irozmotorsport.com/product/ims-high-flow-intake/
can you tell me which coupler you used to pair IE intake with uni 4 inches inlet !
Universal 4" straight coupler cut to length.
@@SaltyDogPerformance ok sounds good bud
so the UNI 4inch inlet mated up to the IE well?
I discuss it in this video: ruclips.net/video/Su3sQRoWDq8/видео.html
Have you ever run on an awd dyno before?
Yes. This dyno is also an AWD dyno. I purposely measure power in FWD to make sure the AWD system doesn't mess with the results. I have tried AWD on 2 dynos and both of them had weird results because of the AWD system interfering and putting power down unevenly
2 years later are you still running a Unitronic intake?
Yes
The problem with these test is anytime you put a new intake on any car you have to drive the car around for a while before you put it on the dyno. This gives the car a chance to any differences in air flow over MAF sensors. Many times the gains you see on the first pull will be mitigated by the ECU recognizing the changes and adjust down for airflow changes. The last run was low because the ECU was adjusting. If it was heat soak you could easily show your intake temps to prove the point, but you didn't. Running dynos immediately after the install is what intake manufacturers do to falsely claim big gains.
What exhaust is it? 😳
OEM Sport Exhaust
which Unitronic filter is better, gray or blue ?
They don't make a grey filter.
@@VancityAudi ok, the blue filter was what yielded 578 whp?
@@DaltonNemanbrk I explain every single thing in the video
@@VancityAudi I'm sorry I don't understand English perfectly
@@DaltonNemanbrk blue is the racing filter. Red is the street filter. Both from Unitronic. The grey filter is from Integrated Engineering.
How come all 4 wheels are turning it suppose to be a 4 wheel drive
The Haldex AWD system doesn't work well on an AWD dyno. To prevent it from messing up the numbers, I do my dyno's on FWD only to make them more accurate reads.
Both systems are good, but if I was purchasing one it would be the Unitronic intake.
Was the IE filter clean?
It had around 4000km on it
I'm not asking to be argumentative, just want to know how long you've run this filter and when the last time you've washed it or if you've cleaned it?
@@cale262 I understand that. It had 4500km on it. I checked my records to see when I put in a new filter.
Ugh, maybe it's time for me to upgrade from my CTS turbo intake...hate to spend this kind of $$ for 10 or so hp, though.
From a CTS intake I imagine both the IE and Uni intakes would make more than 10hp more
Why do you have the hood open dyno tuning? With the hood open it will give you a inaccurate reading
😂 who told you that? We weren't tuning the car. We were simply doing a comparison between 2 pieces of hardware. The conditions stayed the same, meaning the variables were the same between both pieces of hardware.
@VancityAudi try it with the hood down and you will see what I am talking about. With the hood down it will show more accurate numbers as you would be driving the vehicle. This is if you have enough air moving into the grille. You intake air temperatures with the hood down will have a closer numbers as you would have on the streets.
@VancityAudi I'm not giving you any disrespect, I actually enjoy watching your videos. I just bought my first 2019 audi rs3 and your videos is giving me ideas to do to my car. My audi already has the IE intake installed. Idk if it has any downpipes or tunes. The previous owner had installed the intake.
@@thomasdearing7718 I don't take what you're saying as disrespect. I just completely disagree with you.
There is no way you'll see similar IAT's with the hood closed on the dyno doing repeated 4th gear pulls at over 200km/h as you would on the street with the hood down. There is WAAAAAY more air that comes through the front of your car in the real world (on the drag strip or on the street) as there is on a dyno. Or at least the dynos I have tested on. I have proof of this via the thousands of datalogs I've done.
It's very rare that dyno's have adequate airflow, so in order to accurately test hardware I need to ensure that the IAT's are similar and optimal between both products. If I don't do that then the testing is inaccurate. I kept the hood open to make sure the IAT's weren't sky rocketing and negatively impacting the performance of the hardware changes. That way it is a fair comparison.
I guess you need to also try the AWE S FLO since thats 4.5 inches. Hank has found the intake tube needs to be as big as possible as he runs something like 5 inch custom tube.
If you want to ship me an AWE intake to test as well I'll get right on it!
@@VancityAudi Hah I would if I could!. I like your results though. Helps me plan out my part pile!
I bought the AWE 4.5"... very curious on the results.
@@mhillenaar @ DVX ?
@@RS3EATTHEV8 Bought @ Awesome GTI UK as I live in The Netherlands.
hold, is this converted to FWD?
No, I deactivate the Haldex AWD system when I'm on the dyno. Here is how I do it: ruclips.net/video/-yITpLYLrHY/видео.html
Hey great video I gave a thumbs up but bro... is that a FRONT wheel drive rs3?!?!🤦♂️
Hahaha, thanks for watching
Wow i wonder how mutch the eventuri would do🤔🤔
The Eventuri looks a lot prettier, not sure how it compares for power though, seen some good figures on it though
I'd be very interested in testing out open headlight Eventuri intake if you want to put in a good word! Haha
How long have you been stage2+e85?
This video is 3 years old. This was me in 2022: ruclips.net/video/Bj40cKwEYus/видео.html
@@VancityAudi so car has ran fine wouthout any issues? im looking just for noises right now.. will i get more spool and purge noises with a uni or IE 4" intake without a tune?
@Drey Thompson if all you care about is noise, then go with an open CTS Turbo intake. They don't fit really well, but they have a big open air cone that will make your intake sound louder at a lower price.
@@VancityAudi well, I plan on tuning eventually, so id want something good quality.
@@dreythompson9016 You're going to want an open air intake regardless if you want it to mainly make sound. The semi-enclosed intakes from Uni and IE are awesome for making power but don't make as much noise. Reach out to @redlinemotorworks1 on IG and let them know I sent you. They have some pretty damn epic titanium and aluminum open intake setups available.
Please do a review on an eventuri intake system.
If someone will lend me one for testing I will be happy to perform another comparison
Super Nice video,
Thanks Adam,
Remember 5 - 8 hp on these numbers is Only 1 %
Thanks. Ya, I realize the gain is super tiny
It’s a shame none of these guys sell their products in the UK
Unitronic intake is sold in the UK,
IE is sold in the UK.
Thanks guys I’ll have to look into it, currently got a 2016 last of the line supercharged Audi S5. Running Revo map, Milltek full exhaust & Revo intake. So should be 450bhp but it’s a heavy car and feels slow, so looking to up grade to a RS3
You got eventuri intake , probably better than this ones......
Awesome GTI UK sells the new 4.5" full carbon intake...
What are the results? 16 minutes to sift through...
Watch it over the course of your next few poo's
@@VancityAudi Lmao, very practical! 😂
@@brianstephens7884 I always try and be. Some of my older videos are longer than they need to be and I talk too much so watch it while you poop. Makes the time pass by easier 🤣
Damn that engine wants to jump right out onto the floor
Lol. It was even worse before I had a new torque/dogbone mount
I'll stick with my A3
I'm staying away from the Audi's next year at mission raceway 😂
Haha, just 'Audi'...singular, you need to stay away from lol
@@VancityAudi haha. I think a lot would take out my mustang. This one would just be done before I start 😂
@@CanadianCruisin haha. I could give you a few car lengths head start if you wanted to race next season?
@@VancityAudi I'm hoping to tune it by next season so it will be a slightly closer race at least lol.
So you proved it makes no real difference which intake or filter is used.
You must have been watching a different video
These racing filters get more debris/particles in the engine from stuff passing through the filter. Causes damage to the engine over time.
From the looks of it that is a Dynocom dyno, the total joke of the dyno industry. Go to Dynojet or Dynapack , much more reliable and repeatable.
Why do you think it's the "total joke of the dyno industry?"
The dyno its fine , for this purpose
575 ENGINE horse power!!!! It’s not wheel, its 15%+ difference.
Wrong, that is the wheel horsepower. This dyno reads high and that's why I stopped using it. The drivetrain loss on these cars we have found to be around 10% at most, not 15%
There's no difference in these numbers lol
It appears like your comprehension of numbers is different than everyone else's, haha
@@VancityAudi yep