PICO 4 vs QUEST 2 - Which one Should I GET?

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  • Опубликовано: 9 июн 2024
  • Pico 4 vs Quest 2 comparision video. I hope this video will help you decide which headset to buy or if you should make the switch or stay!
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    0:00 Introduction
    0:17 Pricing
    0:41 Pico 4 and Quest 2 Weights
    1:15 Pico 4 and Quest 2 Lenses and IPD
    1:55 Pico 4 and Quest 2 refresh rates
    2:05 Pico 4 and Quest 2 Passthrough
    2:19 Pico 4 and Quest 2 Audio
    2:44 Pico 4 and Quest 2 Chipsets
    2:59 Pico 4 and Quest 2 Controllers
    3:24 Pico 4 and Quest 2 Comfort
    3:57 Pico 4 and Quest 2 UI & Software
    4:37 Pico 4 and Quest 2 Standalone Gaming
    5:32 Pico 4 and Quest 2 PCVR Gaming
    7:06 Pico 4 and Quest 2 Entertainment
    7:44 Pico 4 and Quest 2 Fitness
    8:30 Pico 4 and Quest 2 Productivity
    9:05 Outro
    Headset: Pico 4 and Quest 2
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  • @SoundBubble
    @SoundBubble Год назад +204

    The Pico 4 IPD adjustment actually goes from 58mm-72mm, not 62mm-72mm. You just have to acknowledge a notification warning you that the lens edges might press against your nose and potentially cause discomfort at lower IPDs and larger noses. VR Essentials made a video demonstrating it a few days ago.

    • @GaaraSama1983
      @GaaraSama1983 Год назад +9

      This is mentioned at 1:51.

    • @dathyr1
      @dathyr1 Год назад +2

      Ah- that is good to know about the IPD goes lower than 62.

    • @laubox
      @laubox  Год назад +3

      Thanks for letting me know! i have added this in the live FAQ

    • @joel3399
      @joel3399 Год назад +4

      @@laubox you said that doing that squished your nose, right?

    • @laubox
      @laubox  Год назад +2

      @@joel3399 yeah! But never dared to go that low as at 62 it already crushed my nose...

  • @mrbeckham666
    @mrbeckham666 Год назад +72

    the most important thing you didn't mention from what I see. The pico 4 has an exact IPD setting and better lens as well as image quality. In my case, the difference is huge because the oculus quest 2 did not fit my IPD because I am 71mm. Setting the right IPD is the most important thing in VR

    • @brankelly1921
      @brankelly1921 Год назад +1

      Thanks MrBeckham666

    • @roky8147
      @roky8147 10 месяцев назад

      Pico 4 has 2 displays,Quest2-1😆

    • @marn200
      @marn200 12 дней назад

      Also. I own a quest 2. And there’s a very big nose gap.

  • @flyingtravel
    @flyingtravel Год назад +6

    Wow! Seeing you touching the switches in the A320 cockpit with the hand tracking made me buy this Pico 4 haha

  • @JohnSmith-mk8hz
    @JohnSmith-mk8hz Год назад +72

    The stock Quest 2 strap made my neck hurt after awhile too. I got a $20 elite style strap off Amazon and my neck feel MUCH better now. It balances much better.

    • @laubox
      @laubox  Год назад +3

      yeah some straps make it much better!

    • @KodaiRyu
      @KodaiRyu Год назад +1

      I temporary use VR Cover fabric strap on my because it can relieve some pressure from face and friend made power bank holder so it acts good counter weight for now, haven't change facial interface yet but i'm waiting one from aliexpress XD

    • @judahhuber6463
      @judahhuber6463 3 месяца назад +1

      $20!?

  • @glenner171717
    @glenner171717 Год назад +5

    So I'm a little confused regarding pico linking to pc..I read you can only play pc games via air link with no cable,but on your video I see an option to link to pc via cable...so if there is cable link capability will it be USB or display port cable straight to graphics card..?..
    Great video..

  • @zaidlacksalastname4905
    @zaidlacksalastname4905 Год назад +43

    There's no easy choice here, unless you do pcvr exclusively, there's so many advantages on both sides. I wish I could have the hardware of the pico with the software of the quest. Sounds like what a quest 3 should be, at minimum

    • @gs-nq6mw
      @gs-nq6mw Год назад +1

      Anyone knows If I can pirate games at Pico Neo?

    • @zaidlacksalastname4905
      @zaidlacksalastname4905 Год назад +1

      @@gs-nq6mw if it wasn't possible I wouldn't get it. It's the reason I got a PC a year ago

    • @zzedixx
      @zzedixx Год назад

      ​@@accountdua9375 but Pico 4 is owned by tiktok which imo is worse

    • @zzedixx
      @zzedixx Год назад +2

      ​@@accountdua9375 I'll still get the Pico 4 because I don't really care about the company, I care more about the product.

    • @jovanleon7
      @jovanleon7 Год назад

      If you're into fitness and getting healthy, it's easy

  • @ruedacastillo
    @ruedacastillo Год назад +2

    If we compare the software between the two, what does Pico lack today, that Quest have?
    And how do prices move between both platforms? or its the same cost?
    Finally do you think that these differences will disappear?

  • @B4nan0n
    @B4nan0n Год назад +5

    This was a good review 👏!
    Btw do you think pico 4 is high resolution enough for being use like a virtual monitor/desk for having multiple 1080p monitors?
    I hope the pancakes lenses are way better for that >.

    • @Kaiylre
      @Kaiylre Год назад

      Did you end up getting it? Curious about the same thing!

  • @thenonexistinghero
    @thenonexistinghero Год назад +41

    A bit odd that Virtual Desktop wasn't mentioned for PC streaming since for the Pico 4 it makes quite a difference compared to the current version of the streaming assistant. Of course it does cost a bit of money and it's a 3rd party app, but I do think it's worth a mention at least as long as the streaming assistant doesn't measure up to that yet.

    • @laubox
      @laubox  Год назад +11

      Hi nox! I did mention that you can use virtual deskop for both headsets in the video! But good you are pointing it out again! Thanks for the comment. much appreciated.

    • @thenonexistinghero
      @thenonexistinghero Год назад +3

      @@laubox I see, I must have missed that. Sorry for that.

    • @gabrielloginekiszyszka5881
      @gabrielloginekiszyszka5881 4 месяца назад

      streaming assisant when set up properly can have the same quality as vd

  • @casiermarty5176
    @casiermarty5176 Год назад +4

    Is the image quality (youtube video, Netflix, Disney + etc) better on the pico 4?

  • @Mayor_Imad
    @Mayor_Imad Год назад +1

    What about developer mode in Pico4?
    Does it easily allow any outside sources?

  • @slicedpage
    @slicedpage Год назад +2

    another helpful video on the P4. Thank you. Did you notice any discomfort on your cheekbones or forehead from it?

  • @mauladjafar6367
    @mauladjafar6367 Год назад +1

    You mentioned both devices can watch youtube, how did you manage to get youtube running on Pico 4? Netflix also seems to hit the DRM black screen issue. Any advice? Thanks!

  • @johntrace5975
    @johntrace5975 Год назад +1

    Question: Can these VR headset replace our PC Monitor? Can I use it as a PC Monitor? So I can work or even play a movie from my PC and it will display on the VR.

  • @MotmedGaming
    @MotmedGaming Год назад +2

    How is the delay on the pico with wireless pcvr?

  • @abdulkadireraslan2330
    @abdulkadireraslan2330 Год назад +1

    Is there a way you can use the quest controllers on the pico? I think the pico controller is not doing great in positioning itsself

  • @Thomason1005
    @Thomason1005 Год назад +11

    one missing comparison is the privacy policy. both headsets record your home, so it is important to dive in there. both companies have been in the news for privacy invasions, so this is the most deciding factor for me. all other differences are minor, really.

    • @bunnyfreakz
      @bunnyfreakz Год назад +13

      Brah everyone have your data. Even Goggle map know exactly where do u live.

    • @FlooferLand
      @FlooferLand Год назад +1

      @@bunnyfreakz .. every website you visit knows where you live, because every website needs your public IP to even send you content..
      I don't get what you're tryina say here xD
      Every big corporation wants your data, and it's your call whenever you want to allow them to sell your data or not. Less corporations collecting your personal information is better than all corporations collecting it.

    • @bunnyfreakz
      @bunnyfreakz Год назад

      ​@@FlooferLand In nutshell, just pick your poison. Really.

    • @tiqosc1809
      @tiqosc1809 Год назад

      pico 4 got da pancake lenses, really worth it imo

  • @laubox
    @laubox  Год назад +3

    LIVE FAQ:
    - CAN I STILL PLAY BEAT SABER ON THE PICO 4?
    = Yes, via PCVR you can still play Beat Saber.
    - WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY AUTOMATIC IPD ADJUSTER
    = I meant to say motorized IPD Adjuster.
    - DO I HAVE A WEAK NECK?
    = Try to play a combat flight simulator for 2 hours wit 800 grams on you head
    - CAN THE PICO 4 IPD GO LOWER THAN 62MM?
    = Yes it can go as low as 58 MM. You just have to acknowledge a notification warning you that the lens edges might press against your nose and potentially cause discomfort at lower IPDs - Thanks @soundbubble

    • @what-ifsage
      @what-ifsage Год назад

      Can you test side quest on the pico 4??? Please do

    • @shahmirkhan5373
      @shahmirkhan5373 Год назад

      Q1. do the controllers have analog output on both the grip and triggers?
      Q2. are there capacitive sensors on the trigger, joysticks, grip, and buttons for finger presence detection? (extremely important for gesture control on social vr games like vrchat)

    • @volvoxo
      @volvoxo Год назад +1

      Does Pico 4 playing pc games with Type-c cable? (without WI-FI)

  • @avigu1324
    @avigu1324 Год назад

    thank you so much you realy helped me

  • @goodcanoe8607
    @goodcanoe8607 Год назад +1

    Thanks - very informative comparison. Does anyone know if the pico 4 will also stream/cast to a google chromecast?

  • @ofek5365
    @ofek5365 Год назад +2

    Thank you! Very informative.
    Do you know which games on Steam optimize for the Pico 4?

    • @laubox
      @laubox  Год назад +1

      Thanks Ofek, much appreciated. You can play all SteamVR games on Pico 4

  • @deutschejar
    @deutschejar 10 месяцев назад

    Ok that's an amazing comparison, but now that I know that computer games need to be plugged in to your computer. If I will play only computer games, should I pick the Pico4VR or maybe would be better an AR glasses? I'd like to have an immersive experience, which would you choose?

  • @abakash9
    @abakash9 Год назад +4

    Nice review but it's quite baffling that you never mentioned the display clarity difference between the 2, or screen door effect or black levels. Isn't that important?? The display quality????

  • @logwheel
    @logwheel Год назад

    I'm only going to be using pcvr, in this case would it be better to use virtual desktop or the default pico streaming app?

  • @THaukage
    @THaukage Год назад

    The image scale for playing in PCVR is that much different betwen these VRs, even considering Quest 2 having more options for resolution?

  • @blm7929
    @blm7929 Год назад

    How do you play to Flight Simulator ? Wired, wireless, with Pico 4 utility or Virtual Desktop ? Because another tester said that FS with Pico 4 and Virtual Desktop require a huge hardware because even with a RTX 3080 it will lag at higher settings.
    I mostly play Elite Dangerous and Project Cars 2 with a Quest first gen and Virtual Desktop and I don't know if I should get Pico 3 Link with it's DisplayPort or Pico 4 with it's pancake lenses and better resolution but no DisplayPort...

  • @SjaakSchulteis
    @SjaakSchulteis Год назад +5

    So I have the Quest2 and will however buy the Pico4 as well and a friend of mine who didn't have a headset at all, is also going to get the Pico4. About the weight, to get the Quest2 balanced, you need a counterweight, which I use with the BoBoVR headstrap with battery. It works very well. But then the Pico4 has its advantage: it is lighter and already balanced from start. I saw another video from MRT where Sebastian demonstrated the BoboVR battery set for the Pico4 that you can attache above the original battery pack. It makes the headset heavier, but the way he said it is not a big deal, because the extra weight is on the back of your head. So far everything I see from the Pico4 is good news. I play most games as PCVR games with my Quest, so I can use the Pico4 as well for it.
    But fitness I do also with the Quest and those are native to the Quest.... that's why I won't get rid of the Quest so soon. Besides it is always good to have a second machine as a backup.

    • @LlednarHugh
      @LlednarHugh 2 месяца назад +1

      That's nice 👍! I think I'll get the pico 4 because I just want a good one from the start, I want to play Skyrim haha

    • @SjaakSchulteis
      @SjaakSchulteis 2 месяца назад +1

      @@LlednarHugh Meanwhile we are over a year further since my last remark. I bought the Pico4 over a year ago, but in November also the Quest3 to replace my aging Quest2. I must say, after a few upgrades the Quest3 is my favourite gaming headset for stand alone gaming, but the Pico4 is mainly for watching movies and PCVR. All in all the Quest3 is a very good deal, but the Pico4 for PCVR is still great, depending on your PC of course. I had to upgrade and use an i5 with RTX3080. Still not the highest resolution, which can be handled with the Pico4, but overal great.

    • @LlednarHugh
      @LlednarHugh 2 месяца назад +1

      @@SjaakSchulteis nice 👍, I really appreciate the insights. Helps me in making better decisions. I was browsing earlier to compare the prices between the pico 4 and quest 2, turns out the pico 4 is cheaper, and I like cheap and good stuff, haha.

  • @GaaraSama1983
    @GaaraSama1983 Год назад +16

    Good short comparison that mentions all the important points. One small addition to the Pico OS/UI experience and you mentioning that Quest 2 has a two year headstart. That's not entirely correct. At release they will ship it with Pico OS 5 and already used earlier versions on older headsets like Neo 3. It's just a smaller software dev team compared to Meta but hopefully with the Bytedance acquisition and financial backing Pico will up their game.

    • @laubox
      @laubox  Год назад +2

      thank for the comment hok, i appreciate that! Thank you for letting us know, i did not know this.

  • @Thrakus
    @Thrakus Год назад

    IS the hardware open like osvr with psco 4 , so you can emulate/spoof other vr headset? o love having control over my hardware as a feel vr is like a tv , yet they treat it like a game systen.

  • @abdalrhmanyassin1893
    @abdalrhmanyassin1893 11 месяцев назад

    thank you, i have looked for comparing like this ,but you say something about mixed reality, do they both support windows mixed reality ?

  • @aleksandersjonsti3655
    @aleksandersjonsti3655 6 месяцев назад

    how is it for watching movies? want to use a VR headset for watching movies to block out all distractions

  • @KalleankaJul
    @KalleankaJul Год назад

    3:29 him doing that and me feeling very smooth 😊

  • @viktorianas
    @viktorianas Год назад +2

    Great content!

    • @laubox
      @laubox  Год назад

      thanks vik, much appreciated!

  • @MAslamIbrahim
    @MAslamIbrahim 5 месяцев назад

    hi! i’m thinking of getting either one. but i’m looking to just replace my monitor. i wana play games like soccer/football and simcity. so basically what’s best to just get a virtual desktop?

  • @enerjaz6871
    @enerjaz6871 11 месяцев назад

    Did the UI of PICO 4 develop from the date of the video and if yes, by how much?

  • @Chmpy
    @Chmpy Год назад

    is there crossplay between the Quest 2 and Pico 4 so i can play with my friend which has the Quest 2 ?
    and are the APK for Quest 2 compatible with the Pico 4 ?

  • @Jamic9
    @Jamic9 Год назад

    This video came in very useful as I now know which headset to go for. It’s the PSVR2 btw.

  • @MrLangz0r
    @MrLangz0r Год назад +51

    For a cheap and way better option than the Elite strap, get the BOBOVR M2 Pro
    It has a waaaay better strap
    And it includes a battery pack that is magnetically attached to the back of the strap (serves as both a counterweight and a 5000 mah battery)
    I've been having a blast with it, and it so easy to switch out batteries mid gaming session

    • @blastofo
      @blastofo Год назад +1

      Or get one of the third party straps that doesnt have a built in battery, and just use a smartphone charger put in your pocket. Much cheaper

    • @MrLangz0r
      @MrLangz0r Год назад +2

      @@blastofo Also an option, but I would say that since the battery is removeable, on the fly even, I'd recommend the bobovr set over a phone powerbank any day as it gives more comfortable counterweight, which the other thing wouldn't
      Also, a decent powerbank would cost around half of the bobovr strap with the battery included. So not even worth it

    • @covimelon2549
      @covimelon2549 10 месяцев назад +1

      I love bobo headstrap it good

  • @gdmunn83
    @gdmunn83 Год назад +6

    Does running PCVR games via wi-fi virtual desktop run as well as a link cable direct to the computer like the quest 2?. Is the image quality going to be as good using the Pico 4 USB C cable compared to the direct link cable of the quest 2? Pros and cons?

    • @dathyr1
      @dathyr1 Год назад +6

      I am also interested in info on PCVR connections pros and cons of the PICO 4. how degraded if any is the image qualities on PICO 4 connections compared to Direct Port connections of the Quest 2?

    • @gdmunn83
      @gdmunn83 Год назад +2

      @@dathyr1 this is what I would like to know to before making a purchase

    • @forferdeilig
      @forferdeilig Год назад

      Both use usb c to stream the picture to the headset, the pico 3 had a direct displayport link but not the 4:(

    • @gdmunn83
      @gdmunn83 Год назад +3

      @Bingus I have watched "multiple videos" but still was not sure. Not understanding something and asking for help is not laziness??
      Human assumptions and judgment is astounding

  • @yannisgk
    @yannisgk Год назад

    what about 3d movies or 4k movies transferred from my hdd to the internal memory of both headsets???

  • @_sylSYLsyl_
    @_sylSYLsyl_ Год назад

    Does the pico 4 support ideal payment in the netherlands or would i need something else to buy virtual desktop

  • @alexlee6859
    @alexlee6859 Год назад +3

    I'm waiting for the lynx r1 to drop for the reviews for deciding between the 3. Thing is, in a recent update, if you preorder the lynx r1 now, it'll arrive like in March even tho the first units start shipping in November...

  • @museumsteve
    @museumsteve Год назад +12

    I still don't think we've seen anyone actually test the Pico running PCVR via USB-C, is it available yet?

    • @gdmunn83
      @gdmunn83 Год назад

      Snap

    • @kevinbrook7033
      @kevinbrook7033 Год назад +4

      He seemed to suggest he was connecting with it in the video, but if so, its preset options of smooth, SD and HD are garbage. Unless the pancake lenses susbtantially alter the amount of barrel distortion versus fresnal (which is possible I just haven't heard it) you need to run this headset at 3100 x 3100 per eye for it to look good.
      The Quest 2 needs to be run at 5408 x 2736, in which case it looks excellent, people running headsets at their panel resolution are not seeing what it actually looks like. Run the Quest 2 at its panel resolution and it's trash.
      If the Pico USB-C connection can't run at its proper full render resolution then it's completely pointless for high end VR.

    • @gdmunn83
      @gdmunn83 Год назад +1

      @@kevinbrook7033 well explained, ty

    • @dathyr1
      @dathyr1 Год назад

      That is what i am also interested in. How does streaming (USB) look like compared to Direct Port (DP)? I have only done DP with my Oculus Rift S.

    • @caseyrybak
      @caseyrybak Год назад +1

      You can't because it's broken right now ( software), crashing or something like that) but it should be supported later.

  • @x1c3x
    @x1c3x 8 месяцев назад

    So did anything change these past 11 months regarding Pico 4? Is it something that gets updates or is it a neglected product?

  • @gdmunn83
    @gdmunn83 Год назад +2

    So if I plug the Pico 4 into my pc via USB C can I access the oculus store for games or only the steam store and are there many more games that are exclusive on the oculus store and not on Steam?

  • @Adriano-Italiano
    @Adriano-Italiano Год назад

    Does pcvr via usb picture quality look much better than wireless streaming

  • @ji3200
    @ji3200 Год назад

    Does pico 4 works most of pc vr games just like Quest 2? Thanks

  • @Secret_Squirrel_Scottishgamer
    @Secret_Squirrel_Scottishgamer Год назад +2

    Productivity doesnt have to be tied to mixed reality I remember the oculus rift had some cool drawing apps in vr so the same will likely be achievable on the pico 4.

  • @beisvaggos
    @beisvaggos Год назад

    So what should i get i eant my vr for gaming and some pc gaming ?

  • @VRietySociety
    @VRietySociety Год назад

    question - how weak is your neck :O I have a halo strap with a battery and also had the default strap prior playing until the quest was flat but never had any neck strain :/

  • @ChickenEater25
    @ChickenEater25 Год назад

    My birth day is in 20 days and i really want my first vr headset and i have ben thinking for a wile about buying the piko 4 but i dont know what do you think i should do

  • @chefbrody
    @chefbrody Год назад

    would the pico 4 be a good choice to play elite dangerous ?

  • @fifise8486
    @fifise8486 Год назад +1

    What is the maximum length of the cable that can be used to link the Pico 4 to the computer ?

    • @czebosak
      @czebosak Год назад

      Depends on the cable

  • @ironmedsvr
    @ironmedsvr Год назад +1

    Did they get rid of the bugs on the pico4?

  • @Pazuzu-2048
    @Pazuzu-2048 Год назад +4

    Does the PICO have a video player similar to SKYBOX?

  • @MrVizzo
    @MrVizzo Год назад

    It is something i have been wondering for a long time and that is if its possible to play gorilla tag on the pico 4 without pcvr/steamvr

  • @monki5833
    @monki5833 Год назад

    Ya what do I do i have I am going to get one but which one because I want to play beat star and I want the pico so which one should I get

  • @AD-zc2ug
    @AD-zc2ug Год назад +1

    How stable is guardian for big area?

  • @Ankhelz
    @Ankhelz Год назад +5

    Isn't it possible to play the already bought Oculus games using PCVR?

  • @manojkumargound6207
    @manojkumargound6207 Год назад

    i just want to watch 3d videos in VR. please suggest which vr among those two should i buy

  • @4Bakers
    @4Bakers Год назад +1

    Does the Pico 4 support VRChat? Asking for a friend who's considering upgrading from their Quest 2, which they have to get a replacement for.

    • @fentinolp
      @fentinolp 11 месяцев назад

      ℕ𝕠𝕥 𝕪𝕖𝕥

  • @cparoli1111
    @cparoli1111 Год назад

    Does pico 4 charge while playing pc games with cable?

  • @ThomasJamne
    @ThomasJamne Год назад +1

    Thx for excelent presentation. Do you have the name of the the flightsim app? The one with airliner.

    • @laubox
      @laubox  Год назад

      hi Thomas, thank you very much for your comment. I appreciate that! The flight sim app is Aerofly FS4, great in VR!

  • @iWineLove
    @iWineLove Год назад

    can you run Google Earth VR on pico4?
    the pico4 not support WebXR, right?
    anyone has the US or EUR ROM to flash?

  • @gmr2gnr
    @gmr2gnr Год назад +5

    any issues with light bleed on the side of the cushion of pico 4?

    • @laubox
      @laubox  Год назад +3

      I have not had as much problems with that as other reviewer have i hope they improve this with a new face cover!.

    • @aj2228
      @aj2228 Год назад +2

      @@laubox the face cover is magnetic, so obviously designed with replacement in mind for different faces.

  • @Spedley_2142
    @Spedley_2142 Год назад +8

    I had the original Rift, then the Quest 1. It's passed time to upgrade and I was hoping for good things from the Quest Pro.
    I'm quite disappointed with the Pro for the price but will see it in person first. The Quest 2 isn't much of an upgrade over the Quest 1 and I find it hard a hard jump to make but switching to the Pico 4 may be a good idea. I only have £100 worth of games (worth keeping) that I'd have to rebuy on the Pico but I want to edge over to Steam anyway.
    What's the Pico like with glasses and how is the PC-wifi connection for it - my Quest 1 cable connection is crap?

    • @newtonfaust7961
      @newtonfaust7961 Год назад +6

      the pico works just fine with glasses, also the quest pro isnt for gaming

    • @adr2t
      @adr2t Год назад +1

      "pro" is a bit miss leading its a "enterprise" headset. If you have access to the Pico 4 I say get that... if not because you live in the US - you would be better off waiting for the Quest 3.

    • @Spedley_2142
      @Spedley_2142 Год назад

      @@adr2t I can't see much 'enterprise' about the Quest Pro. I think they had a clear goal but had to make too many compromises. I'm pretty sure Meta wanted something close to Augmented Reality which appeals much more to business. I don't think business cares much about facial expressions so all they've really got is slightly higher picture quality with pancake lenses to make it a bit lighter.

    • @adr2t
      @adr2t Год назад +4

      @@Spedley_2142 Its about as "enterprise" as it gets ... it work with windows's login in system... Cost almost 4 times more than current headsets. Focus on business use case. Na, the compromises are self created not a trade off. For example, we know they have access to larger flat lenses (Pico uses them) and we also know that they know they didnt need Face and Eye tracking. Thats all designs choices witch is something they control. Or how about the fact they didnt focus the headset towards PCVR that would have the power and data cable they remove and then focus the idea of this headset to be used in this matter and is now limited to 2hrs or doesnt support link (it uses link, but in a compress matter) / raw data in and out put such as using USB-C to DP. While I under these are limites of the XR - they are not limits of the PC that they could've focus on releasing different modes for. I can go on of course:) As for AR - they kind of failed at it just a tinny bit... if that was their main goal.. they miss out on the deapth sensor it was to come with... I understand things dont always time well - but I would've assume you delay it if for a feature if its a core one. Just strange choices in my opinion. Also the idea of using the word "enterprise" helps clear its for business use and not "pro" where pro tends to mean something at a higher spec. Similar to saying "Super", "TI", "End high", etc. ITs a bit miss leading and thats why you have people talking like Quest "pro" was their headset... when reality if they call it Quest "Enterprise" I feel would've tooken any thunder someone would've in understanding what the headset was for.

    • @linck7up
      @linck7up Год назад +1

      w8 for quest 3

  • @ondrejpolak5747
    @ondrejpolak5747 Год назад +2

    Hey guys, I'm just thinking about buying my first VR headset. I'm thinking about PICO 4 more sice I'll play PC VR...mostly. BUT Since I never had any VR headset I don't know how all this SW works. I understand that there are some exclusive games for both platforms. But let's say I want to play beat saber I can play it via PCVR but what about Lone echo? Somewhere I came across information that Quest games can be run normally on PC via their app and then streamed to the headset via VR desktop. So is it possible to play Quest 2 exclusive games this way on PICO 4? Or do I have to resign myself to losing these games?

    • @21EC
      @21EC Год назад +2

      Don't know about Pico 4 but I do know for sure that Quest 2 is crap and overhyped for no legit reason since I bought it once (like a year+ ago) and it was bad, the 3D effect of Quest 2 was meh, the colors of the screen were off a bit (LCD) and the FOV was really limiting (even Quest 1 has better FOV than it), the controllers also weren't as comfortable compared to Quest 1's controllers which are perfect, hence why I sold my Quest 2 and went back to my old Quest 1.

    • @nickname_donkey4456
      @nickname_donkey4456 Год назад +1

      @@21EC thank you 👍 so helpful so so helpful 😑

    • @21EC
      @21EC Год назад

      @@nickname_donkey4456 Thanks, BTW I have the Pico 4 now..and I can tell it's screen colors are better and also look like OLED to me compared to the dull colors of Quest 2 and the FOV of Pico 4 without its official face pad is as big as Quest 1's FOV without its face pad (but the Pico 4 even has a bit more vertical FOV than it), but there is an issue of aliasing with texts/lines with Pico 4 and some people complain about production quality issues (it's not guaranteed to be perfect with each unit) and Pico 4 has a bit of wave like distortion effect (for me at least) but most of the time it is not noticeable, overall still the Pico 4 is better than Quest 2 so this time around I had a reason to stick to Pico 4 instead of ending up selling it like I did with Quest 2.

  • @ducksractuallyepic
    @ducksractuallyepic Год назад

    What is this flight simulator you flew the a320 in?

  • @jokkie007
    @jokkie007 Год назад +1

    Is it possible to have a link cable to your pc with pico 4? Because you are saying that but I am reading on internet that’s not possible.

    • @laubox
      @laubox  Год назад +1

      it is possible!

  • @4c30n3
    @4c30n3 Год назад +21

    I have quest 1 since its release, and I'll be getting pico 4 for sure. I rarely if ever play quest games, mainly using it for pcvr. So I won't be missing anything, software wise, going for the pico 🤩

    • @21EC
      @21EC Год назад +6

      You haven't missed anything on Quest 2 as well (good choice not buying it) since I bought it and it's not that good :
      My comment copy pasted here - "Don't know about Pico 4 but I do know for sure that Quest 2 is crap and overhyped for no legit reason since I bought it once (like a year+ ago) and it was bad, the 3D effect of Quest 2 was meh, the colors of the screen were off a bit (LCD) and the FOV was really limiting (even Quest 1 has better FOV than it), the controllers also weren't as comfortable compared to Quest 1's controllers which are perfect, hence why I sold my Quest 2 and went back to my old Quest 1."

    • @onlinepersonalitydisorder1051
      @onlinepersonalitydisorder1051 Год назад +4

      Quest 3 is coming later next year. Maybe wait for it before you decide ;)

    • @Piccoclolo
      @Piccoclolo Год назад +1

      @@onlinepersonalitydisorder1051 it's still gonna be front heavy because the design is still the same from all 3 leaks and the most likely one.

    • @Tremor244
      @Tremor244 Год назад +1

      @@21EC I got the Quest 2, it is my first experience with vr, and I'm sending it back, it is god awful, extremely uncomfortable, the picture is blury everywhere except the small spot in the middle, edges of panels are jagged, it's like playing a pc game at 640x480 resolution, but that's probably all you get in that tiny area of focus in the middle of the lens, The fov is also not that good. I don't understand why they though it would be a good idea to have all that weight at the front, sitting on a small spot on your forehead and cheekbones, it is madness. The pico 4 seems very tempting, properly balanced out of the box, pancake lenses for clarity, higher resolution too. the only thing I'm not really sure about is the color reproduction of the display, many reviewers said it is somewhat wahsed out, not as good as quest 2, and even the quest 2 has pretty bad colors in my opinion :/

    • @21EC
      @21EC Год назад +1

      @@Tremor244 Finally someone that can tell how bad or good a VR headset is..and yeah as I said Quest 2 is not good by any means (except for it's high resolution image), keep in mind that both of them share the same image sharpness, Pico 4 is said to be a bit more sharp but honestly I don't feel it but the image sharpness of Pico 4 is good overall, it depends on the content as well, some 180 SBS videos are incredibly sharp on their high resolution and it looks so real and some of these are not as good and are showing more of the SDE which is very tiny at worst case but still visible, Pico 4 does suffer sometimes from production defects and such, maybe now it was mostly fixed but mine was recieved with a wave like effect that is visible sometimes whenever I move/rotate my head around but sometimes it is not visible at all and then if the content is great then it's an overall good VR experience, some of these 180 SBS vids looked so damn good and realistic and amazing as an experience that I got shocked at how awesome it was, the colors of the Pico 4 are better in my own eyes than those of Quest 2, it almost looks like OLED with a tad less brightness but you don't have any weird blue tint or any tint, the colors look natural and good, actually the colors of Quest 2 as far as I recall were not looking that nice, it felt like it was lacking contrast and it was kind of dull in comparison and looked like it had white/gray layer with opacity on top or something, the 3D effect is also really good in Pico 4 better than Quest 2, question is whether all Pico 4 are 100% the same or not..I don't know, but I do know that in my own Pico 4 the colors are looking good and better, the FOV is also better but especially if you replace the official face pad with one like the GeekVR one (which I have which makes it more comfortable and gives a bit more FOV).

  • @gobgob3628
    @gobgob3628 Год назад +1

    The only real question I need is can the pico 4 use vr chat if yes I'm sold

  • @Gary-xe2lb
    @Gary-xe2lb Год назад +7

    Already pre-ordered Pico 4 and can still play beatsaber and some oculas stuff with virtual desktop.

    • @laubox
      @laubox  Год назад +4

      You can still play beat saber via pcvr ;)

  • @The.Jedi.Wizard
    @The.Jedi.Wizard 5 месяцев назад +2

    If it wasn't for the fact pico 4 Library is way more limited and empty, i would surely take it over the quest. I am in a stalemate between both headsets now.

  • @infinityviews433
    @infinityviews433 Год назад

    Uh hi, I have a question. Well I have not a VR headset and i will buy one for gaming and fitness, and it’s need to be good quality because i want watch videos on it. Wich one should I buy? My budget 0$-460$
    Already thanks for letting me know what’s you think
    Bye 😊

  • @koky179
    @koky179 Год назад

    For pcvr which one is better?

  • @danielklein7729
    @danielklein7729 Год назад +2

    This questions is answered vaguely at best.
    Will I be able to play my Steam games, on the Pico 4, through a USB-C Cable?

    • @Framed7
      @Framed7 Год назад +1

      that would work. but it's not DP so it's better to just use wireless tbh

    • @kevinbrook7033
      @kevinbrook7033 Год назад +5

      @@Framed7 USB-C has plenty of bandwidth, at 10 gb/s (gen 2v2 has 20 gb/s). Unfortunately the XR2 chip (at least on the Quest 2) can only handle about 450 mb/s. That's still three times more bandwidth than the 150 mb/s connection on Pico wireless, so the USB-C connection should be much better.
      On the Quest 2 USB-C on a proper gen 2 port is much better than wireless, and compression artifacts aren't visible on a high end card like a 3090. Wireless always looks bad imo.

    • @kevinbrook7033
      @kevinbrook7033 Год назад +2

      @Bingus it's underclocked, it's not 'severely' underclocked. Stop being hyperbolic, you're bad at it.

  • @mrAskra
    @mrAskra 9 месяцев назад +1

    Any recent update about pico games?

  • @rio_ramadan
    @rio_ramadan Год назад

    If I got a Pico 4 could I play with my friends on quest 2?

  • @aliebro
    @aliebro Год назад

    can i play steam vr on the pico 4? so that i could play beatsaber?

  • @jdriesen9496
    @jdriesen9496 Год назад +1

    Hi,
    I'm thinking about to buy pico only for steam vr games.
    which one should i buy the 128gb or 256gb.
    Thanks for the vid.

    • @laubox
      @laubox  Год назад +1

      Keep with the 128GB! You wont need storage to play PCVR games only :)

    • @jdriesen9496
      @jdriesen9496 Год назад

      @@laubox thanks

  • @DinoGBG
    @DinoGBG Год назад

    Can you play online white your friends if you have an pico 4 and they have an oculus

  • @BasJon
    @BasJon 3 месяца назад +1

    I know this is a year later, I just bought my first VR last week being the meta quest 2, I thought it was amazing for my first go with VR but I hated the strap for comfort always moving on my head unless I made the strap so tight, sadly after only 3 days of use I plugged in the charge cable on day 3 and it actually broke the inside connection in the headset and no longer charges, I sent it back today for a refund, now I cannot decide if I got a poorly made headset in the factory or I was unlucky. Now seeing this video I am thinking of getting the pico 4 instead, I will say I am single and wow when I watched adult content on the meta quest 2 it actually blew me away, I am guessing the pico 4 can do the same and I can transfer movies onto the headset hard drive and watch it ? I was thinking of going for the meta quest 3 but the price, any help would be gladly appreciated thank you.

    • @laubox
      @laubox  3 месяца назад +1

      Thanks for your detailed comment I appreciate it. If I was you , go for the quest 3!

    • @BasJon
      @BasJon 3 месяца назад

      Thank you@@laubox

  • @jinxed4lyf763
    @jinxed4lyf763 Год назад

    I want to buy pico 4, but i dont know when or if it will be released in India.

  • @tianjohn.diaries
    @tianjohn.diaries Год назад

    so there is no Netflix App on the Pico 4 right?? Why is that??

  • @somerandomperson8282
    @somerandomperson8282 Год назад

    Is there really no way to play Oculus store games on Pico4?

  • @glenner171717
    @glenner171717 Год назад +2

    I'm deciding on quest 2 or pico 4 just to play pc games on steam but if there's no plan on a pico 4 cable link then quest 2 is in favour..

    • @madsoncaminha2517
      @madsoncaminha2517 Год назад

      Wifi with steam isnt good enough?

    • @elias4364
      @elias4364 Год назад

      @@madsoncaminha2517 My problem is game time (battery life) or does it not matter if the cable is plugged in? If i wanted to connect the pico 4 to pc via usb-c does it still drain the battery? And does it on the Quest 2?

    • @rattlingduck8454
      @rattlingduck8454 Год назад +1

      Quest 2 doesn't have display either

  • @AMuffinHead261
    @AMuffinHead261 Год назад

    Is the pico neo 4 available in California?

  • @EM9LI0
    @EM9LI0 Год назад

    What plane game r u playing?

  • @NotKnown_Official
    @NotKnown_Official 11 месяцев назад +1

    You can actually play beat saber now on the pico 4 I think.

  • @corebite
    @corebite Год назад +4

    i'm playing pcvr only through steam. worth spending 430 on pico 4 to switch from quest 2?

    • @laubox
      @laubox  Год назад +4

      maybe sell your quest 2 for a good price and than get the pico 4?

    • @corebite
      @corebite Год назад +1

      @@laubox bought it for 350 and bought the kiwi headstrap for 50. 400 in total so I'm thinking around 300 euros. Granted, i did use it very intensively but have always kept it clean. Nearly no use marks on it. No scratches. I have it sinds february 2022. Sinds it's gone up in price I was thinking of asking 350 for it, but it might be too much. Looked at what others are selling it for and some are almost just giving it awayfor free. Like 225 with elite strap, very competetive prices (that was the cheapest one though, others are around 300). What are your thoughts?

  • @jack-hale
    @jack-hale Год назад +1

    I feel like no beat saber is a big draw away from switching for some people

  • @bamboobeaver5674
    @bamboobeaver5674 Год назад

    what game was that with the plane?

  • @Kanye_on_sussy
    @Kanye_on_sussy Год назад

    Why did you not do a controller weight test-

  • @21EC
    @21EC Год назад

    1:46 - WOW....look at that...how much smaller is the Pico 4 compared to Quest 2...and how much the lenses of Pico 4 are bigger than Quest 2...so good, I guess Pico 4 should be a good buy.

  • @HansMilling
    @HansMilling Год назад +4

    Its a shame that none of the headset support Steam native so you can buy games on a single platform. I used to have a HTC Vive and have a bunch of VR games already on Steam. So having to connect the headset to my old PC to play these is a shame. Hardware wise the Pico 4 seem to be much better and even cheaper.

    • @entire3ds
      @entire3ds 9 месяцев назад

      Right, a big downside 😮

  • @warlockboyburns
    @warlockboyburns Год назад

    Does this have better contrast ratio aka black levels than the quest 2?

    • @21EC
      @21EC Год назад

      I don't think so, they are kind of the same more or less (both having an LCD screen so contrast is lacking probably)

  • @RadioactiveGrass
    @RadioactiveGrass Год назад

    What is simulator on 6:42 ? Aerofly?

  • @redsta100
    @redsta100 21 день назад

    Upgraded from Q2 256 to P4 256 - HUGE difference. Pico 4 is so awesome! Lenses and image quality, also audio quality is better. PC connection just works via air wifi, quest 2 was black screen of death. And there was no fuss, just click pico connect app, sync and that's it, no dancing around, like with old quest 2 - nothing worked. Watching video is no comparison. Love PICO 4! RTX 3090, AMD 5900x, 32GB DDR 4000 cl 16. Oh, PICO 4 doesn't feel like a brick on your face too, play longer, enjoy comfort.

  • @_SamH2061
    @_SamH2061 Год назад +2

    Is the star wars and blade and sorcery game on pico 4

  • @Adiculous
    @Adiculous Год назад +1

    can you still play beat saber on pico 4 via steam? i know it isnt a feature yet but they will add virtual desktop soon,so will it work then

    • @kartoitska8944
      @kartoitska8944 Год назад +2

      You probably can, and you don't have to wait for virtual desktop for it. You can just use an oculus link or 3rd party link cable to connect the pico 4 to your PC to use PCVR. USB 3.0 to USB-C cables work aswell.

    • @Adiculous
      @Adiculous Год назад

      @@kartoitska8944 Ye thought so

    • @SoundBubble
      @SoundBubble Год назад +1

      Yes, you can. And there's not even a cable required. It has an in-built wireless streaming app that allows you to play SteamVR games wirelessly over wifi and it will work even better if you get Virtual Desktop.

    • @kartoitska8944
      @kartoitska8944 Год назад

      @Rev the pico is a standalone, meaning that when used for PCVR it will be less good compared to how it functions standalone or compared to a PCVR only headset. You can't even use a Displayport cable with the pico neo 4. If you want a displayport one, you can always go for the pico neo 3 or any other purely PCVR headset.