Thanks again to Drew for the AWESOME push stick! Check out his RUclips channel: ruclips.net/user/FishersShop How many times have I taped or clamped a full sheet of sandpaper down on my bench only to have whatever I'm sanding catch on it and tear it? TOO many times! This simple project puts an end to that by holding the paper on all four edges making it impossible to snag. --- Rather than non-slip stuff on the bottom I could add a cleat so that I could clamp it in my shoulder vise = better idea. The framed sanding cushion bonus project was one that I've been meaning to do for several years. It needs a thin layer of rubbery non-slip stuff glued on the top to make it perfect. A layer of carpet underlay would work, but may be heavier than ideal. The foam makes this weigh nothing and that makes it easier and more convenient to use and put away. --- Even just an old towel laid over the foam would keep the part from moving while it's being sanded. And then the towel would collect a lot of the dust and I could just bring it outdoors and shake it out = better idea!
Could you maybe put a piano hinge on one side of the top plate, so you just open it up like a book? That would keep the top plate exactly in place, so you just open, put in the paper, and close and you don't have to try and align it each time.
Two simple projects to add efficiency to a work space! 👍👍 My husband has discovered the multiple uses of a yoga mat in his workshop...🧘♂️ From saving his knees while installing a tin roof on our chicken run to stablizing small items while sanding. They are made to increase grip (at ones own risk). We also have mesh rubber mats, but the yoga mat is a bit thicker and lies flat with ease. But he hasn't tried yoga yet.🤪
I am a knife maker and Indo use a pane of 1/4” glass with wet and dry sandpaper glued with 3M spray adhesive to do flat sanding. For me this is required for surfaces that need to be dead flat and not slightly tapered at their edges due to the loose sandpaper rising up as I push and pull. BUT, this solves a very important problem for me in the wood shop as you mentioned and like you, why haven’t I ever thought about this before??? Thank you for your continued content and I really appreciate your video production quality and method. I have poor vision and bad hearing. This is very easy for me to watch and understand! Thank you!!!
"...and in the meantime....(and that could be years)..." That's so funny. Over the years I've learned to enjoy your (subtle) sense of humor ....and I mean it! Good on you John! Great device. Thanks for sharing this....
I am going to make your sanding block. Such a great idea! My old yoga mats keep my pieces from sliding. Some yoga mats are stickier than others, but the packaging usually highlights it if they are sticky mats. Also, the stuff to keep rugs from sliding around has good stickiness without needing an adhesive. Thanks for your videos!
I've been working in wood for more than 50 years and own a working 3500 sf woodshop, and I love watching your videos. Learned more than a few things, too... Kudos
John, this is a great idea and I'll be making my own. Just a suggestion - almost everything I use on my bench has a bench-hook hook on the bottom, which I actually clamp in my woodwork vice to hold it steady. I have my grinder, sanding machine sharpening stone setup, engineer's vice, etc mounted on a piece of wood for that purpose. Not to mention my shooting boards etc. That would hold it steady much more than the rubbey stuff on the bottom (which never works well in a woodshop given there's sawdust everywhere that works like talcum powder.
I was going to suggest making the bottom piece 2 inches wider than the frame to allow a recessed clamping surface. The bench hook is brilliant; I will combine ideas.
Great idea! I think I’ll make one with a steel plate for doing metal parts, I think over time an mdf substrate would wear down, but the same design would work in metal for sure!
Excellent thought, I agree that metal would work well here. I’d do 1/4” aluminum because it’s lighter weight than steel and won’t break like glass will. Plus something sticky on the bottom so it doesn’t move around the bench. Lately I’ve been buying used yoga mats at goodwill and using them to line tool drawers. They would be a good material for the bottom.
@@JohnDoe-rx3vn For sanding and polishing small metal parts I use a Chinchiller, which is a small slab of granite polished on one side sold at pet supply stores. It's meant for keeping small pets cool in summertime. Since the bottom is left rough it stays put fairly well.
Cool idea! I learned from a Bobby Duke video that 3M sandpaper is adhesive backed that is heat activated. I just lay a flat sheet (or two) on a scrap piece of ply, and hit them with a heat gun, and your auntie is married to Bob.
I like it! Nicely thought through... I'd add a lip on one side of the sandpaper holder to make it hold to the front edge of the workbench like a shooting board. It would keep it in the correct position for the best ergonomics.
I’ve been using the sanding block technique using spray rubber cement and glueing the sand paper or emery cloth to 3/4” MDF. I have many boards with different grit from 120 to 400. You can put a bench cleat to hook the bench or put it in a vice. I’ve use this technique on all kinds of material wood, plastic metal even glass. The sandpaper and emery cloth have lasted up to a year. To remove the sandpaper I use a heat gun just warm it up a little bit and the paper comes off. I’ve use this technique for over 30 years. I hope this technique help other viewers.
Love the sanding pad and will probably make one of my own. If you put some alignment pins in all four corners it will take any guessing out of putting it over the top and will make it even easier :)
You can also use “temporary fabric spray glue” to hold sandpaper to a sheet of glass, but this requires no cleanup and is cheaper. But the glass/glue trick is nice for longer items (and also where you require flatness, such as planing down cylinder heads). This kind of reminds me of a crocheting hoop. Great idea!!
They just keep coming. One great idea after another. The full sheet thingy is super cool. I am considering making a few if these, made up on one monolithic board. Just move down the line while sanding. We are human sanding machines now (he says, in his best robot voice). Haha
First time comment but long time viewer. You are truly a gift to us who get to watch. Thanks for all the content and endless hours of hard word. I’m a crap woodworker but love learning from you and the rest of the woodworking community
Thanks for the idea, I'm just using smooth tile and sticking the sandpaper with double-sided tape. Been using it for sanding wood and sharpening my chisels. This video has given me an idea of making a base for it so I can clamp it onto my bench Thanks again!
Cool ideas, John. For smaller, non-woodworking things in the past I've used cell phone dashboard grip stuff as a non-slip material. Might be worth a try.
Yeah, my sister brought me these phone gel anti slides 3x5"- they were promotional things for her work, she got me gobs of them, and I have used them for everything. I have no idea what they are made of, but it is amazing.
Rug Gripper Non Slip Rug Pad Underlay for Hardwood Floors Supper Grip Thick Padding Adds Cushion Prevents Sliding Size 2 x10 - you can get from many rug outlets or places like Amazon. Used it for years and been very satisfied with the hold and ability to clean up easily .
Great jig, I made something similar years ago. Probably found somekind of inspiration on the RUclipss. The sandpaper folds over a sheet of plywood and is held in place with two wedges (top and bottom). The underside has a block glued to it so you can fix it your workbench.
Low pile carpet remnant, what we used to use in the cabinet shops for sanding bench surface. Some worked better than others, but once you found one....would use it for decades on the sanding bench.
This is a great project, better than most sanding blocks that try to use clamps on every side, making them a pain to change the paper. 3:16 The only change that I would make, I would epoxy a piece of glass or marble tile for the flat surface. Also you can spray a bit of water on the surface an the sand paper will stick like glue.
Years ago, Sears sold non-slip router mats. Now I've seen a thinner version at the grocery store as shelf liner. There's a 11"? wide roll for shelves and a roll twice that wide for lining drawers. (I've also seen it at the dollar store.) Works great! I keep a scrap to open the spaghetti sauce bottle. 💖🌞🌵😷
Great idea! I just made one and would change one tiny detail if I had it to do over again. I'd make the 8 x 10 piece about 1/8" oversize in both dimensions. Reason is, if the paper is the least bit oversize, it will fold down and go under the frame piece. This will cause the frame to be a tiny bit proud of the sanding base and catch the workpiece as you sand. Thanks for a great project. I'm sure it'll be super handy in my shop!
Never seen your channel before but I subscribed the second I saw those gears on the table saw fence! Can't wait to pick through your old videos and find out about them!
I also do a lot of full and partial sheet sanding, sometimes taping the paper to the bench top. You’re right about catching edges and ripping the sandpaper. Good design. I made some wood rasps using coarse sanding belts and floor sander paper glued to flat boards on 2 sides of square edged lumber. The smooth side can then be used to reference. You can wax the smooth edge of the board and slide it on the bench top to dress an edge or use the sanding board freehand or with a guide. They last a long time with the right kind of sandpaper.
Beautiful. I’ve never used a full sheet for sanding, but after seeing this I’ll start. I’m thinking a few large dowels into bench dog holes or a lip to clamp in my face vice. And make a few for different grits, dowels to stack them (so they all get misplaced together) so a stack of these on the bench and I could go through the grits one after the other. It’s definitely better than clamping my 2.5” sticky back sanding blocks in my vice. Think I’ll still keep sticking a few 2.5” strips to my granite table saw top for quick, dead flat, gouge/chisel/scraper/blade tunes between proper sharpening. Awesome idea, and you’re right-why haven’t any of us done this before?
Thanks! I actually wanted to use a sanding pad like the you had, but upside down, to sand the floor, with a weight on it and a broom stick to push it around! And you show me how to do it!!!
A few years ago I got a few large sheets of the rubber matting they use on bench cookies. It works a treat on many things, and as a bench top grippy surface it does a great job!
Thanks again to Drew for the AWESOME push stick! Check out his RUclips channel: ruclips.net/user/FishersShop
How many times have I taped or clamped a full sheet of sandpaper down on my bench only to have whatever I'm sanding catch on it and tear it? TOO many times! This simple project puts an end to that by holding the paper on all four edges making it impossible to snag.
--- Rather than non-slip stuff on the bottom I could add a cleat so that I could clamp it in my shoulder vise = better idea.
The framed sanding cushion bonus project was one that I've been meaning to do for several years. It needs a thin layer of rubbery non-slip stuff glued on the top to make it perfect. A layer of carpet underlay would work, but may be heavier than ideal. The foam makes this weigh nothing and that makes it easier and more convenient to use and put away.
--- Even just an old towel laid over the foam would keep the part from moving while it's being sanded. And then the towel would collect a lot of the dust and I could just bring it outdoors and shake it out = better idea!
I feel Rex Krueger has a solution somewhere for holding that sanding block tight...
Could you maybe put a piano hinge on one side of the top plate, so you just open it up like a book? That would keep the top plate exactly in place, so you just open, put in the paper, and close and you don't have to try and align it each time.
try using cheap silicone table place mats for a non-slip base
I just saw the preview on my home screen and now I can't see it being done any other way.
Take my cyber appreciation.
Now on to the Video.
Two simple projects to add efficiency to a work space! 👍👍
My husband has discovered the multiple uses of a yoga mat in his workshop...🧘♂️ From saving his knees while installing a tin roof on our chicken run to stablizing small items while sanding. They are made to increase grip (at ones own risk). We also have mesh rubber mats, but the yoga mat is a bit thicker and lies flat with ease. But he hasn't tried yoga yet.🤪
“In the mean time and that could be years”. Good one! 😉😉 Great idea for whole sheet sanding.
John brings the realism to the workshop.
@@nzlemming yeah he does huh
That quote sums me up perfectly.
When temporary things take on a sense of permanence.
@@tobins6800 how many fixes have I got that were “temporary”?
I am a knife maker and Indo use a pane of 1/4” glass with wet and dry sandpaper glued with 3M spray adhesive to do flat sanding. For me this is required for surfaces that need to be dead flat and not slightly tapered at their edges due to the loose sandpaper rising up as I push and pull.
BUT, this solves a very important problem for me in the wood shop as you mentioned and like you, why haven’t I ever thought about this before???
Thank you for your continued content and I really appreciate your video production quality and method. I have poor vision and bad hearing. This is very easy for me to watch and understand! Thank you!!!
Both great ideas John 👍🏻, the face in the hole on the table saw was funny 😂👍🏻.
Who was that?
@@julianugentarchitect I’m curious also.
Looked like Scarlett Johansson
Saw your little helper there at 00:12. I could have used one of these this weekend. Lots of sanding. This is a great idea.
At last someone addressed the elephant in the room
"...and in the meantime....(and that could be years)..." That's so funny.
Over the years I've learned to enjoy your (subtle) sense of humor ....and I mean it!
Good on you John! Great device. Thanks for sharing this....
I am going to make your sanding block. Such a great idea! My old yoga mats keep my pieces from sliding. Some yoga mats are stickier than others, but the packaging usually highlights it if they are sticky mats. Also, the stuff to keep rugs from sliding around has good stickiness without needing an adhesive. Thanks for your videos!
My wife was just YESTERDAY saying she was going to throw out her old yoga mat... I was like “Not so fast!” Haha
One of those idea that once you see it, you cant believe you haven't already done it. Bravo. Thanks
I've been working in wood for more than 50 years and own a working 3500 sf woodshop, and I love watching your videos. Learned more than a few things, too...
Kudos
John, this is a great idea and I'll be making my own. Just a suggestion - almost everything I use on my bench has a bench-hook hook on the bottom, which I actually clamp in my woodwork vice to hold it steady. I have my grinder, sanding machine sharpening stone setup, engineer's vice, etc mounted on a piece of wood for that purpose. Not to mention my shooting boards etc. That would hold it steady much more than the rubbey stuff on the bottom (which never works well in a woodshop given there's sawdust everywhere that works like talcum powder.
😊👍
I kind of feel dumb that I never did that for my pocket hole jig, I have it on a piece of plywood that I then clamp to the bench.... I was SO CLOSE!
Was about to suggest this exact same thing, but figured someone else must have already. So +1!
I was going to suggest making the bottom piece 2 inches wider than the frame to allow a recessed clamping surface.
The bench hook is brilliant; I will combine ideas.
+1 for adding a bench hook, otherwise great simple idea to make an easily interchangeable flat sander.
Sometimes the simplest thing is the most useful. Great idea for the whole sheet sandpaper holder
Great idea! I think I’ll make one with a steel plate for doing metal parts, I think over time an mdf substrate would wear down, but the same design would work in metal for sure!
Or glass, to which people have been sticking sheets of sandpaper for decades.
Excellent thought, I agree that metal would work well here. I’d do 1/4” aluminum because it’s lighter weight than steel and won’t break like glass will. Plus something sticky on the bottom so it doesn’t move around the bench. Lately I’ve been buying used yoga mats at goodwill and using them to line tool drawers. They would be a good material for the bottom.
@@twestgard2 go to the dollar store and get shelf liners with the soft mesh there very good for holding things in place
Many machinists use a smallish granite surface block for that
@@JohnDoe-rx3vn For sanding and polishing small metal parts I use a Chinchiller, which is a small slab of granite polished on one side sold at pet supply stores. It's meant for keeping small pets cool in summertime. Since the bottom is left rough it stays put fairly well.
Caught the face on the table saw in the opening shots! Clever John
This is PURE genius! And SO simple.
Great and useful idea John! Thanks!
Thanks for sharing those tips and the make! useful to watch!
That sanding block is brilliant!
Cool project John. Thanks for posting.
It could be years...
Nice tip, John!
That custom push stick is the shit!
The sanding block is really pure genius.
Brilliant and simple. Thanks for sharing.
Nice idea with the sand paper John! Thanks for sharing it with us!💖👍😎JP
I like your make-do-with-what-you've-got approach. We don't live in a perfect world.
I’m absolutely gonna 3D print a copy of this for my hobby sanding now thank you
Cool idea! I learned from a Bobby Duke video that 3M sandpaper is adhesive backed that is heat activated. I just lay a flat sheet (or two) on a scrap piece of ply, and hit them with a heat gun, and your auntie is married to Bob.
That thin drawer for your drill bits is fantastic. New project :)
I like it! Nicely thought through...
I'd add a lip on one side of the sandpaper holder to make it hold to the front edge of the workbench like a shooting board. It would keep it in the correct position for the best ergonomics.
Or if you have bench with dog holes, make the outside dimension to fit within a set of doghole stops.
Was thinking the same - you could clamp the lip in the vice to stop it moving backwards as well.
Thank you John for posting this.
Good idea, and I like your wooden clamps 👍🙂
You never disappoint with your projects. Very cool idea as for non slippery surface, I'd glue sandpaper on the bottom.
Idea for the sanding plane - maybe you can attach a piece of wood on the bottom, so you can clamp it in a vice.
Idea for the foam board: spray glue it and adjust the stickiness with sawdust.
Genius John. Great share and idea.
I’ve been using the sanding block technique using spray rubber cement and glueing the sand paper or emery cloth to 3/4” MDF. I have many boards with different grit from 120 to 400. You can put a bench cleat to hook the bench or put it in a vice. I’ve use this technique on all kinds of material wood, plastic metal even glass. The sandpaper and emery cloth have lasted up to a year. To remove the sandpaper I use a heat gun just warm it up a little bit and the paper comes off. I’ve use this technique for over 30 years. I hope this technique help other viewers.
That sandpaper holder is brilliant. I'll definitely be stealing that idea for my shop :)
I will be trying this out. Thanks, John!
Love the sanding pad and will probably make one of my own. If you put some alignment pins in all four corners it will take any guessing out of putting it over the top and will make it even easier :)
Great idea. I will be making one of these for my shop.
You can also use “temporary fabric spray glue” to hold sandpaper to a sheet of glass, but this requires no cleanup and is cheaper. But the glass/glue trick is nice for longer items (and also where you require flatness, such as planing down cylinder heads).
This kind of reminds me of a crocheting hoop. Great idea!!
They just keep coming. One great idea after another. The full sheet thingy is super cool. I am considering making a few if these, made up on one monolithic board. Just move down the line while sanding. We are human sanding machines now (he says, in his best robot voice). Haha
Good idea Mark.
First time comment but long time viewer. You are truly a gift to us who get to watch. Thanks for all the content and endless hours of hard word. I’m a crap woodworker but love learning from you and the rest of the woodworking community
This is why I am a subscriber! Good presentation. One tip with the sanding pad is to use push pins to keep things from moving.
Thanks for the idea,
I'm just using smooth tile and sticking the sandpaper with double-sided tape. Been using it for sanding wood and sharpening my chisels.
This video has given me an idea of making a base for it so I can clamp it onto my bench
Thanks again!
Love it, you could also do it with an extended base and a bench hook that you can clamp into your vise
Or just a couple of shorter cleats on the bottom and drop in the dog holes. No clamping needed.
300 IQ idea, absolutely brilliant.
What a great idea John!
Nice work! Like the corner holes
Thank you for sharing another great idea.
I enjoy mowing my lawns now ,I never used to. I wonder if I will get that way about sanding one day
Cool ideas, John. For smaller, non-woodworking things in the past I've used cell phone dashboard grip stuff as a non-slip material. Might be worth a try.
Yeah, my sister brought me these phone gel anti slides 3x5"- they were promotional things for her work, she got me gobs of them, and I have used them for everything. I have no idea what they are made of, but it is amazing.
I use a rug underlayment, which can also be purchased in smaller pieces used under stair carpet mats.😊
If you live in a warm climate they're not great they break down into a super sticky slime over time. A silicon mat is much better.
That looks like an awesome idea. I should try it and build one, too.
Rug Gripper Non Slip Rug Pad Underlay for Hardwood Floors Supper Grip Thick Padding Adds Cushion Prevents Sliding Size 2 x10 - you can get from many rug outlets or places like Amazon. Used it for years and been very satisfied with the hold and ability to clean up easily .
Great jig, I made something similar years ago. Probably found somekind of inspiration on the RUclipss. The sandpaper folds over a sheet of plywood and is held in place with two wedges (top and bottom). The underside has a block glued to it so you can fix it your workbench.
very cool. and I like what you consider to be an acceptable "in the meantime".
Love it John! So simple, so effective, the best kind of innovation.
I love the simplicity and usefulness. Truly a perfectly useful project
That sandpaper holder is a great idea. I haven't got enough space for the other thing.
Low pile carpet remnant, what we used to use in the cabinet shops for sanding bench surface. Some worked better than others, but once you found one....would use it for decades on the sanding bench.
I haven't wood worked since secondary school and I think this is an awesome idea!
Nice idea, I will make it! Thank you very much!
Excellent design!
the sandpaper jig can also be fasten down to apart of a workbench so it does not move. i love this, it is so simple yet so useful
This is a great project, better than most sanding blocks that try to use clamps on every side, making them a pain to change the paper.
3:16 The only change that I would make, I would epoxy a piece of glass or marble tile for the flat surface. Also you can spray a bit of water on the surface an the sand paper will stick like glue.
Years ago, Sears sold non-slip router mats. Now I've seen a thinner version at the grocery store as shelf liner. There's a 11"? wide roll for shelves and a roll twice that wide for lining drawers. (I've also seen it at the dollar store.) Works great! I keep a scrap to open the spaghetti sauce bottle. 💖🌞🌵😷
Love the sanding frame. I tried 4 small eyes on each corner edge of the frame, some non-stretch nylon cord and 4 clamps. It works fine.
Great idea! If you don't like the paper moving, you could always "shim" it by stacking 2 sheets instead of just one.
I hope you're going to be selling these to your fans. :) Yet another genius idea among your many
I love your clips and I hope all is well for you and those you love in the new year and years to come.
Thanks again for sharing knowledge with others!
This is one of your better innovations.
For holding work prices while sanding and routing, I use rubber drawer/ shelf liner.you always have such great ideas!!
Great video! Maybe a recessed french cleat so you could lock the block into something?
Great idea! I just made one and would change one tiny detail if I had it to do over again. I'd make the 8 x 10 piece about 1/8" oversize in both dimensions. Reason is, if the paper is the least bit oversize, it will fold down and go under the frame piece. This will cause the frame to be a tiny bit proud of the sanding base and catch the workpiece as you sand.
Thanks for a great project. I'm sure it'll be super handy in my shop!
I think I could use this for holding paper on tile for sharpening my edged tools. Thanks. I think I'll give it a try before Christmas.
Yea John..love yur shop & 💡 innovations! Always a pleasure to watch! Stay safe using all those power tools!👍👍👍🧑🏭🧑🔧🛠give us more 🔜
Really like this one John. Gonna have to make me one of those!
Love the drill bit storage drawer!
I love this! I'm going to make one of this this weekend!
Never seen your channel before but I subscribed the second I saw those gears on the table saw fence! Can't wait to pick through your old videos and find out about them!
This will change the world !!!
Wow! You always amaze me with your brilliant ideas.
Brilliant John!!
Great idea John!
For keeping part in place when sanding, really good is those rubber bathroom mats. Works perfect!
I also do a lot of full and partial sheet sanding, sometimes taping the paper to the bench top. You’re right about catching edges and ripping the sandpaper. Good design. I made some wood rasps using coarse sanding belts and floor sander paper glued to flat boards on 2 sides of square edged lumber. The smooth side can then be used to reference. You can wax the smooth edge of the board and slide it on the bench top to dress an edge or use the sanding board freehand or with a guide. They last a long time with the right kind of sandpaper.
Beautiful. I’ve never used a full sheet for sanding, but after seeing this I’ll start. I’m thinking a few large dowels into bench dog holes or a lip to clamp in my face vice. And make a few for different grits, dowels to stack them (so they all get misplaced together) so a stack of these on the bench and I could go through the grits one after the other. It’s definitely better than clamping my 2.5” sticky back sanding blocks in my vice. Think I’ll still keep sticking a few 2.5” strips to my granite table saw top for quick, dead flat, gouge/chisel/scraper/blade tunes between proper sharpening. Awesome idea, and you’re right-why haven’t any of us done this before?
A slight angle on the plunge cut will aid in making the frame engage over the block easier to lock the paper down.
Thanks! I actually wanted to use a sanding pad like the you had, but upside down, to sand the floor, with a weight on it and a broom stick to push it around! And you show me how to do it!!!
This is why I keep watching you.
5:12 That push stick is sweet! Drew is a great guy, he is always able to make me laugh with his dry sense of humor!
Brilliant solution to a workshop problem.
Both are really good ideas. I really like the sandpaper hold down. Great stuff as always John! I know what I'm making today.
Very clever! I like it
Bloody genius! Ihave the same slippy foam issue - I'm going to try sticking a waste 180 sheet on the bottom of the sanding frame 👍
Very nice. For the small sanding pad maybe add a stripe of wood to the bottom like a bench hook, then you can to hold it in place with the vice.
A few years ago I got a few large sheets of the rubber matting they use on bench cookies. It works a treat on many things, and as a bench top grippy surface it does a great job!
Screw a cleat on the bottom of that sandpaper holder and then you can hold clamp in the bench vise. Great video!
Nothing you do is crazy john. Awesome idea.
Boy I needed to see this. I’ve been gluing mine down with spray adhesive and that makes it a one shot deal. I’ll be trying this soon.
Good video. You could use bench dogs and your front or tail vice to hold the sanding board.
Whether it works or not, if you never try you will never know. Keep up the good work and innovations.