I had an Ogre Magi character that got hold of a Hammership in 2nd ed. He became chief of a small clan of Ogre Magi. He became sort of an anti-pirate or privateer. He was lawful-neutral and honored his "contracts" to the letter. Flying the flag of whoever was paying the bills. He ended up retiring to a small moon that he gained title of, and I retired the character. It's astounding what a group of Ogre-Magi can do if they operate as a unit.
Whaleship casino called "Good Time" the entire front top made of glass enspelled with a perminant glasssteel spell and many contingency spells. I'm absolutely bringing it back! And mate great video keep it up, more spelljammer content would be fantastic cheers
That was a really well put together and interesting video mate :) enjoyed watching and learning. All those ships look so cool I love the lore and designs of this game. Cheers for putting the video together :)
I’m pretty sure the Flying Fish is the old Tradesman ship. And the space whales are the Kindori, living things not ships… except there’s some Kindori that have been tamed and have people riding on them. And then there’s a Leech ship that can be attached to a Kindori or Dragon that saps the Lifeforce of the creature and allows it to be piloted as a ship. Whereas the Battle Dolphin just looks similar. There appears to be a Kindori miniature on the battlemat with ship miniatures in the miniature promo video.
I played an ulitharid psionicist that had a rather unique 70-ton octopus. I had found the keel of the ship laid out, but it was unfinished. I used the psionic ward power(a kind of psionic wall of force type power) to complete the ship. It had the appearance of a standard ship except it hull was shift shades of black. I had replaced the bowstring of the ship with a great bombard from the ship I had been currently using at the time. I also topped out the octopus. We had just started the fist of darkness campaign and I had just obtained a pool helm from the wolf ship/nautiloid encounter I used to power my new octopus. Since the pool helm actually powered the ship, I used my thrall to helm it, and I captained it. 70 ton ship with 300 hull points, it's ar was standard but it had an Mc of b, and a Sr of 14 due to being overpowered. It was a fast attack stealth hunter killer. Lol it was a blast. For other ideas our human mage had err... acquired a cuttlefish command ship he made into a mobile mage tower. Our human fighter had a Hammersmith. Our halfling rogue had a trilop. Our elven archer had an elven cutter carrier with 2 mosquitoes fighters.
Roger Dean is an English artist that did a lot of work for Atlantic Records back in the 1970s (yeah, Old Far..., ehr, Dude here). His first album cover for the prog rock band Yes was for "Fragile" in 1971. On the cover, you can see sort of a flying fish/galleon hybrid docked on the surface of the 'Little World'. The flying fish/galleon appears in later artwork for Yes, particularly the 3 record concert album "yessongs" in 1973, where it's seen shepherding fragment of the fragile 'Little World' through space after it became unstable and broke apart. As such it predates the original Dungeons & Dragons box set of 1974 (TSR 2002).
I actually don't really like the look of most of the spelljammers, the notloid, battle bolphin, marlin they're alright, but the others are........eh I'd probably homebrew my own ships.
I've always been a fan of the Damselfly, Nautiloid, Elven & Neogi ships. If memory serves me the Drow started off using converted Elven ships, the exposed decks were frequently domed to counter the Drow's sunlight vulnerability before as the lore progressed they became allied to then masters of the Neogi & the Neogi ships became the official Drow ships. Neogi being spiders & their ships all looking like spiders lend themselves to being connected to Drow & the Spider Queen Lolth. Not sure if this all happened during the AD&D era or if the Neogi-Drow connection came in 3rd Ed. I don't currently have access to my old Spelljammer books but i'm sure somebody else will confirm this or tell me i'm imagining things :)
@@gameon_ct You know it man I'm going to put it up on my RUclips channel some of it in the works is up already you can check it out on my channel if you want
@@gameon_ct also, if two flints hit eachother, they create a spark. Would it be logical to have this mechanisim inside a larger shell containing blackpowder? How would this infuence warfare?
The ships that I'm disappointed didn't make the cut from the original are the Vipership ( if Maverick from top gun was in spelljamming he'd be piloting one) fast well armed VERY maneuverable!! Octopus a very good heavy combat ship a little bit bigger then the Hammership a little bit better armed but I love the look . Cuttle command same style of look as the Octopus bit it travels in a vertical orientation so it's basically a mages tower in space . Ogre Mammoth just an over all thick boi ship heavily armed crazy big . Armada Monarch an elven butterfly type ship basically a super carrier in the void .
@@yosakie they use a ship called a "Void Cruiser" which has a maneuver class of C and saves as metal. So it's a fairly middle of the road ship but was decently armed!
@@theDeango I dunno. I would honestly have preferred the astral plane remain purely a part of planar travel, not spelljamming. Wildspace/the phlogiston (or whatever they would replace it with) should remain a part of the material plane in my opinion. Not bleed into the astral plane when you travel out into wildspace.
so wait if the bombard is armed with a massive cannon then that means they have black powder armaments', why doesn't every ship use cannons instead of billistas and catapults? a cannon would be far more effective.
Depends on who you ask. Lore specific, it just hasn't made its way around the spheres yet. Some DM's with much more history than I tend to say that the magic users regulate the use of gunpowder, as they're the ones who can only unleash destruction
Original rules smoke powder charges were pricey and the great bombard used multiple charges and was slow loading so cheap fast shooting backup guns were valuable . If you wanted multiple smoke powder weapons you used a giff clipper instead . Plus using smoke powder in the phlogiston would ignite the phlogiston so you would hurt yourself as much as you damage the enemy so you were limited to ballistae, catapults ,and jettisoned mainly when you left a crystal sphere .
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I had an Ogre Magi character that got hold of a Hammership in 2nd ed. He became chief of a small clan of Ogre Magi. He became sort of an anti-pirate or privateer. He was lawful-neutral and honored his "contracts" to the letter. Flying the flag of whoever was paying the bills. He ended up retiring to a small moon that he gained title of, and I retired the character. It's astounding what a group of Ogre-Magi can do if they operate as a unit.
Now that sounds really cool! Thanks for sharing!
Whaleship casino called "Good Time" the entire front top made of glass enspelled with a perminant glasssteel spell and many contingency spells. I'm absolutely bringing it back! And mate great video keep it up, more spelljammer content would be fantastic cheers
Thank you! I'll be making more!
That was a really well put together and interesting video mate :) enjoyed watching and learning. All those ships look so cool I love the lore and designs of this game. Cheers for putting the video together :)
I’m pretty sure the Flying Fish is the old Tradesman ship.
And the space whales are the Kindori, living things not ships… except there’s some Kindori that have been tamed and have people riding on them. And then there’s a Leech ship that can be attached to a Kindori or Dragon that saps the Lifeforce of the creature and allows it to be piloted as a ship. Whereas the Battle Dolphin just looks similar.
There appears to be a Kindori miniature on the battlemat with ship miniatures in the miniature promo video.
It was a good Segway to talk about the Battle Dolphin though hehe
I played an ulitharid psionicist that had a rather unique 70-ton octopus. I had found the keel of the ship laid out, but it was unfinished. I used the psionic ward power(a kind of psionic wall of force type power) to complete the ship. It had the appearance of a standard ship except it hull was shift shades of black.
I had replaced the bowstring of the ship with a great bombard from the ship I had been currently using at the time. I also topped out the octopus. We had just started the fist of darkness campaign and I had just obtained a pool helm from the wolf ship/nautiloid encounter I used to power my new octopus. Since the pool helm actually powered the ship, I used my thrall to helm it, and I captained it.
70 ton ship with 300 hull points, it's ar was standard but it had an Mc of b, and a Sr of 14 due to being overpowered.
It was a fast attack stealth hunter killer. Lol it was a blast. For other ideas our human mage had err... acquired a cuttlefish command ship he made into a mobile mage tower. Our human fighter had a Hammersmith. Our halfling rogue had a trilop. Our elven archer had an elven cutter carrier with 2 mosquitoes fighters.
Roger Dean is an English artist that did a lot of work for Atlantic Records back in the 1970s (yeah, Old Far..., ehr, Dude here). His first album cover for the prog rock band Yes was for "Fragile" in 1971. On the cover, you can see sort of a flying fish/galleon hybrid docked on the surface of the 'Little World'. The flying fish/galleon appears in later artwork for Yes, particularly the 3 record concert album "yessongs" in 1973, where it's seen shepherding fragment of the fragile 'Little World' through space after it became unstable and broke apart. As such it predates the original Dungeons & Dragons box set of 1974 (TSR 2002).
Love it!
I'm hoping the whaleship and/or the triop will be seen. The hammership is an iconic ship of Spelljammer
Bombard is a Giff ship.
Excellent Video! Really informative.
I actually don't really like the look of most of the spelljammers, the notloid, battle bolphin, marlin they're alright, but the others are........eh
I'd probably homebrew my own ships.
Yeah.... I'll be making vids on that edit: spelling
Kinda gimmicky and corny if you ask me.
Interesting
I don't really have any experience with the ships from Spelljammer, but I am interested in it.
Thanks for the info
The Scro are not fun to fight if you get into a boarding action fight. They're basically all gish builds that'll ruin yu day, even at higher levels.
I've always been a fan of the Damselfly, Nautiloid, Elven & Neogi ships. If memory serves me the Drow started off using converted Elven ships, the exposed decks were frequently domed to counter the Drow's sunlight vulnerability before as the lore progressed they became allied to then masters of the Neogi & the Neogi ships became the official Drow ships. Neogi being spiders & their ships all looking like spiders lend themselves to being connected to Drow & the Spider Queen Lolth. Not sure if this all happened during the AD&D era or if the Neogi-Drow connection came in 3rd Ed. I don't currently have access to my old Spelljammer books but i'm sure somebody else will confirm this or tell me i'm imagining things :)
I think you're mostly 99% correct. I'm giving you a +/- 1% margin of error
Nice video!
Iron, rigged Whaleship. RAMMING SPEED!!!
Good to see that the Rocinante made it into the game.
Good video. Thanks.
So, Beholders evolved into Daleks in the future?
Exactly
Did you make this before the fifth edition version? Is that why you think is phlogiston?
@@Claycanplay yes this was before it came out
what are the rules for making custom ships like shipwrights for normal dnd boats
I'll have to comment twice because I need to go look it up. It's in Ghosts of Saltmarsh!
Good run down
The galleon and I'm making one for the table top Crafters guild DM Scotty's build off really can't wait to get it on the table and see what she's got
I hope you get pics or a vid of it!
@@gameon_ct You know it man I'm going to put it up on my RUclips channel some of it in the works is up already you can check it out on my channel if you want
Would boardong parties on spelljamer ship cast glyph of warding with fireball? since the explosion will have 3x the range & 10x the damage?
I guess it depends on how you interpret the glyph rules but id say yes! I've done it with sea based ships in a pirate game!
@@gameon_ct also, if two flints hit eachother, they create a spark. Would it be logical to have this mechanisim inside a larger shell containing blackpowder? How would this infuence warfare?
The ships that I'm disappointed didn't make the cut from the original are the Vipership ( if Maverick from top gun was in spelljamming he'd be piloting one) fast well armed VERY maneuverable!!
Octopus a very good heavy combat ship a little bit bigger then the Hammership a little bit better armed but I love the look .
Cuttle command same style of look as the Octopus bit it travels in a vertical orientation so it's basically a mages tower in space . Ogre Mammoth just an over all thick boi ship heavily armed crazy big .
Armada Monarch an elven butterfly type ship basically a super carrier in the void .
Maybe we'll get some add on ships!
Where is the Chetney-Fearne ship?
Good video , it reach a brazilian view , so big goal i think
Hey I'm so happy! Thank you so much!
The Bombard has a wave motion gun?
Idk if it could destroy a whole star... but it's definitely big enough to tackle capital ships!
My favorite ship from original spelljammer was the triop ship
Hey which ship do the Gith use?
Let me double check that for you!
@@gameon_ct thanks. I currently run a level 5 Githyanki Eldritch Knight.
@@yosakie they use a ship called a "Void Cruiser" which has a maneuver class of C and saves as metal. So it's a fairly middle of the road ship but was decently armed!
@@gameon_ct thank you for the info man. I am highly appreciative
Glad we don't have to deal with The Phlogiston in this new rendition.
Not a fan?
@@gameon_ct I mean, it was very interesting, but I imagine that the Astral Sea is going to be cooler.
@@theDeango I dunno. I would honestly have preferred the astral plane remain purely a part of planar travel, not spelljamming. Wildspace/the phlogiston (or whatever they would replace it with) should remain a part of the material plane in my opinion. Not bleed into the astral plane when you travel out into wildspace.
@@steinarbergstl5799 I agree. The phlogiston/crystal spheres was cool. Astral Plane does not fit at all.
so wait if the bombard is armed with a massive cannon then that means they have black powder armaments', why doesn't every ship use cannons instead of billistas and catapults? a cannon would be far more effective.
Depends on who you ask.
Lore specific, it just hasn't made its way around the spheres yet.
Some DM's with much more history than I tend to say that the magic users regulate the use of gunpowder, as they're the ones who can only unleash destruction
Original rules smoke powder charges were pricey and the great bombard used multiple charges and was slow loading so cheap fast shooting backup guns were valuable . If you wanted multiple smoke powder weapons you used a giff clipper instead .
Plus using smoke powder in the phlogiston would ignite the phlogiston so you would hurt yourself as much as you damage the enemy so you were limited to ballistae, catapults ,and jettisoned mainly when you left a crystal sphere .
@@michaelbender5600 THAT makes sense, ok I think I understand now
@@michaelbender5600 THANK YOU SO MUCH!
@@Oooze3424 and when I say the great bombard is slow loading it's a muzzle loader .
Bat ship
Borders have no gender.. a beholder mother would be an honorary title I assume