These new, plastic, overly emissioned, overly computerized and sensored trucks are killing independent operators profit margins. Every little thing and you gotta go to a shop. With a truck like yours, if you're mechanically inclined, you can do 80% of your repairs yourself. The regulators pushing for all this new legislation know this, but don't care. That's why we're seeing so many great trucks being sold in Cali. Excellently maintained/ restored equipment that doesn't meet the new standards. It's a damned shame that people who've never done this for a living get to dictate over the industry.
@@tommy.unfilteredthe point is you'll be spending more time working on the truck and not running down the highway making money. A good, dependable pre-emission truck will be better for you financially in the end.
So true Ohio truck sales is great at buying worn out trucks and slapping a paint job on them and selling them for a 20k profit lol. If you know how to look at equipment you will see what they are doing.
Very good on point advice ! This video should be shown to all the young up & coming drivers who weren't around as things changed. Every aspect of this video is on point! 🚚💨 🚛💨
You’re absolutely right I started off with a 19 89 Peterbilt, 379 and a 1998 great Dane reefer I paid $27,000 for the whole thing my truck had a 60 series Detroit the two units make me thousands of dollars and very little problems with them
Mann, as a person was a diesel mechanic before I bought my truck, these new trucks not built NOWHERE NEAR as good as older trucks . They added emission stuff , had to shed weight to compensate for all that so they cheap out on wiring. My first truck was a Columbia day cab, got me home every time and never had motor issues. My current truck is a 05 international with an Isx, never had any major repairs besides leaks and general maintenance. Paid for equipment/ money management has really helped stay in the game. Do all my own work, easier to work on older trucks not a bunch of trash in the way
I'm running a 83 k100 cabover every day when I bought it it was what I could afford at the time love this truck its paid for a person dosent need a brand new truck to make a living. Keep up the good work
I feel you bro.....im the same way.......im running my first truck a 2000 Freightliner century flattop 15k Cash and my 2000 utility flatbed 10k Cash....i believe older equipment is the way to go cheaper more reliable as long as you take care of them.....im very mechanically inclined and do mostly all my own work......i just purchased a 1999 freightliner century with the same pre emission 12.7 series 60...best diesel Engine every made in my opinion......
I have a Freightliner Classic XL with D60S 12.7 500hp. When I got it it had 1MM with the engine rebuilt. I drove it for 1.2MM and during all those miles I only change the lower end bearings at a cost of $400, that was all the work done to the engine during that time. During COVID we took the engine out, got the block and camshaft inspected, rebuilt the engine with original parts, new radiator, air charger cooler, fuel injectors, turbo, clutch, starter and power steering gearbox, all that for 18K in parts, and 3K in labor. I’ve driven it 200k miles since with 0 breakdowns. A friend of mine bought a used 2016 KW Vacuum cleaner, and has gone thru 3 ENGINES, $50K in less than 600k miles. I totally agree with you.
Unfortunately I live in Cali, but I'm looking to get cheap older trucks and out the gate get an in frame and do what you talking about. Trying to get pre Def. Dpf sucks but it's what it is. Found a 16 t660 for 12k runs drives. 40-50k I can have a bran new used truck ready to go. Drop an apu on it, do shit right, new tires all that. Make just as much as everyone else without a truck payment. I like the idea of bringing shit back from the dead, where no one else has a vision for what could be. Why waste perfectly good equipment.
And new can last long if you take care of it and stay on top of the maintenance. But the thought of a sensor leaving me on the side of the road don’t sit right with me
I support you all the way. America runs on the business of trucking even though they don’t like to admit it. However, I predict that most corporations will eventually require OO trucks to be emissions certified. No matter how ridiculous it is. And one day the automated road train from major hub to hub will rule the day. And it’ll be electric, which in reality isn’t cleaner.
Salute and Respect FAM, I totally agree with you on this 100 % and more. You restore the equipment and it will run circles around the new equipment any day and time. Older equipment is easy and simple to work on and not alot computers, modulars, or sensors. You make alot of sense with this motivational chat as always. Make your investments reliable and wisely. Keep your positive attitude and mindset bruh,you're saying things and talking real talk .💯👍💪🤜👊🤛💪👍💯
The outfit i run for has all rides from 99 to 07 and is very well kept plus we make very good wages, very little maintenance cause we keep up our stuff
Just purchased my first truck 2001 Classic XL wit the 12.7 Detroit. I’m beyond happy with my purchase and I almost got a Cascadia a few years ago and it just didn’t feel right so I stayed patient and waited my turn. 💪🏾 old is the way to go.
Going through the process right now switching my turbo from the VGT turbo on my KW T660 with an ISX15 Truck was already deleted when I purchased it. Excited to see how she gonna run now. Keep doing your thing. Nice Pete by the way
Ahh this is the video I was looking for! Man I really appreciate your uploads. Keep up the good passion! I’m so tempted to buy a 2002 or older 379… it’s so hard to find them though! My dream: white, 18speed, 500-600hp minimum, reasonable sleeper size (not too small), specced well enough to haul heavy like preferably long enough to add a drop axle or third axle. Everything else I can modify or add myself.
I have a 2018, it’s all in how you drive it, hard acceleration slamming doors not maintaining it at regular intervals and not washing it once a week contributes to loss of revenue and brakedowns. Take care of your investment and it will take care of you.
Amen driver i have 2 trucks. A 2000 w900 and a 2002 w900 both with 6NZ. Its so much better to be able to work on my trucks if they break down on the side of the road. I run local so my trucks are day cabs but its easier to have the same of everything when i buy parts.. stay safe brother..
I've been stressing this point for years to my comrades. Now years later they all feel the same way. For the price of 1 new truck I can buy 4 at 30,000...it's simple math to me. You can't go wrong starting your business with a detroit series 60 12.7 under the hood. That engine gives you the best bang for your buck hands down. Congratulations bro. Keep your overhead you can control as low as possible for at least 36 months. Pay the business first, be smart, continue to work hard and you'll grow. Peace
I just bought a 98 w900 with a 650hp series 60 for 78k. 250 on overhaul. New Clutch, Drums, Pads, Airbags, Airline hoses and fitting, Floor, New Seats, paint on truck and frame. 3187 a month for 22 months shes paid.
@@achaosg 650hp??! You have yourself a hellaofa machine my guy! Make sure to change the fluid in both the rear axles; lucus sae 75w-90 synthetic gear oil is a good choice; they should take 2 gallons each so a 5 gallon bucket will do. For the tranny go with lucus 50w synthetic. Both good for 500,000 miles. Summit racing has it on sale. The tranny and axle fluids are always neglected in tractors from my experience. That the first thing I do when purchasing used tractors along with flushing the radiator. Diesel Dash has the detroit coolant for the cheapest price.
just bought a 1990 379 for 5k..solely because i didnt wanna deal with def problems and a computer malfunctioning on me because of a speed bump or the weather
Even if it's not the good time for me to be in this industry.. I totally agree with you 💯 You got it right !!!!! Replica of your truck is coming out soon !!!!!
I agree with you 💯 I got a Freightliner classic 2007 rebuilt engine new brakes chambers fixed it up pretty good 👍 it's been a good truck I wouldn't buy a new truck with all that computer and sensor mess DEF junk no
I love my 99 pete, rebuilt it and running hard, you can either spend a lot on fuel and keep running or save on fuel and constantly be in the shop, imma keep running
%100 agree i have 99 volvo with Detroit 60 spend 85k my dream truck all times fuel efficiency same time good looking with reliable engine if i ever buy truck again going to be glider cascadia hope we can do video together one day
I’ve seen glider Cascadias with Series 60s. Not sexy at all but a workhorse for a guy trying to get after it. Never really cared for Volvos or Prostars
I roll a 2005 Volvo, rebuilt the motor, rebuilt the suspension back in 2020, 3 years later my truck has only needed oil changes while guys out here paying 1k a week for a new truck and still ending up on the side of the road because of DEF.
I had my 2000 international 9400 I since 2005. I used the same one truck everyday. one an only truck. I been in business for 18 years. driving for 26 years.
I agree 1000 %, period point freaking blank. I've been saying that since the DEF systems failure. I don't really care what ppl say old school is the way. 2000& 01 Freightliner Classics, N 14 Red Top 525 & Detroit 12.7 60 series(both paid) are stone reliable
Unfortunately, regulators are making it inconvenient to own these older trucks. I do agree with you though, I rather buy pre emotions truck with miss match paint and a good engine all day.
I think the newer trucks can be efficient, just as a old truck. Stay on top of maintenance and don't over idle the def system. But yes personally I miss my 07 century class I had owned back in 2016 . I should have never sold it
Yes but I would have to deal with egr on some engines and 2007 is the cut off cause that it when dpf came about. The only 06-07 engine I would buy is a cat accert MXS and a egr can be fixed
Newer trucks provide higher tax write offs which you need when grossing $200k plus. Also you’ll save at least $1500 per month in diesel OTR in a fuel efficient truck. The old trucks keep you at the pump. Most guys don’t understand the maintenance schedule of the newer trucks. You also should start off with an APU. It saves you from DEF issues.
$1500 a month is chump change compared to what a truck sitting at a dealership for a week or two waiting for parts will cost you in lost revenue. But I don’t really believe a newer motor will do that much better on fuel than a Series 60 driven carefully anyway.
Lol you shouldn't be chasing write off, all that means is your not paying taxes on money that never made it to your bank account. It's still a L. I rather more money make it to my pocket, pay taxes according and I still will make out better than some guy who had massive write offs because he made no money lol
They don’t understand the fuel savings and tax write offs for the payment covers the cost of the newer truck. These guys are thinking brand new but you really buy them for $50-60k with 350k miles. That’s the best way to buy.
These new, plastic, overly emissioned, overly computerized and sensored trucks are killing independent operators profit margins. Every little thing and you gotta go to a shop. With a truck like yours, if you're mechanically inclined, you can do 80% of your repairs yourself. The regulators pushing for all this new legislation know this, but don't care. That's why we're seeing so many great trucks being sold in Cali. Excellently maintained/ restored equipment that doesn't meet the new standards. It's a damned shame that people who've never done this for a living get to dictate over the industry.
If you're mechanically inclined and good with a scan tool, you can fix the emissions trucks yourself also
@@tommy.unfilteredthey’re still junk though.
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@@tommy.unfilteredthe point is you'll be spending more time working on the truck and not running down the highway making money. A good, dependable pre-emission truck will be better for you financially in the end.
I'd go with a Freightliner Classic or an FLD120 with a 12.7 Detroit or an N14 Cummins. That would be a great way to start.
The smartest way 💪🏾
So true Ohio truck sales is great at buying worn out trucks and slapping a paint job on them and selling them for a 20k profit lol. If you know how to look at equipment you will see what they are doing.
Very good on point advice ! This video should be shown to all the young up & coming drivers who weren't around as things changed.
Every aspect of this video is on point!
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I must agree and thank you for watching 💪🏾💯
You’re absolutely right I started off with a 19 89 Peterbilt, 379 and a 1998 great Dane reefer I paid $27,000 for the whole thing my truck had a 60 series Detroit the two units make me thousands of dollars and very little problems with them
And keep a whole lot more to with that paid for old equipment 💪🏾
Mann, as a person was a diesel mechanic before I bought my truck, these new trucks not built NOWHERE NEAR as good as older trucks . They added emission stuff , had to shed weight to compensate for all that so they cheap out on wiring. My first truck was a Columbia day cab, got me home every time and never had motor issues. My current truck is a 05 international with an Isx, never had any major repairs besides leaks and general maintenance. Paid for equipment/ money management has really helped stay in the game. Do all my own work, easier to work on older trucks not a bunch of trash in the way
Gotta agree man 💯💯
I'm running a 83 k100 cabover every day when I bought it it was what I could afford at the time love this truck its paid for a person dosent need a brand new truck to make a living. Keep up the good work
Right on brotha 💪🏾
I feel you bro.....im the same way.......im running my first truck a 2000 Freightliner century flattop 15k Cash and my 2000 utility flatbed 10k Cash....i believe older equipment is the way to go cheaper more reliable as long as you take care of them.....im very mechanically inclined and do mostly all my own work......i just purchased a 1999 freightliner century with the same pre emission 12.7 series 60...best diesel Engine every made in my opinion......
Man that’s great man much success to you brotha 💪🏾💪🏾
I have a Freightliner Classic XL with D60S 12.7 500hp. When I got it it had 1MM with the engine rebuilt. I drove it for 1.2MM and during all those miles I only change the lower end bearings at a cost of $400, that was all the work done to the engine during that time. During COVID we took the engine out, got the block and camshaft inspected, rebuilt the engine with original parts, new radiator, air charger cooler, fuel injectors, turbo, clutch, starter and power steering gearbox, all that for 18K in parts, and 3K in labor. I’ve driven it 200k miles since with 0 breakdowns. A friend of mine bought a used 2016 KW Vacuum cleaner, and has gone thru 3 ENGINES, $50K in less than 600k miles. I totally agree with you.
Yes sir that’s great and you didn’t take any shorts cuts on your rebuild brotha💪🏾 that’s how you take care of business 💯
Unfortunately I live in Cali, but I'm looking to get cheap older trucks and out the gate get an in frame and do what you talking about. Trying to get pre Def. Dpf sucks but it's what it is. Found a 16 t660 for 12k runs drives. 40-50k I can have a bran new used truck ready to go. Drop an apu on it, do shit right, new tires all that. Make just as much as everyone else without a truck payment. I like the idea of bringing shit back from the dead, where no one else has a vision for what could be. Why waste perfectly good equipment.
And new can last long if you take care of it and stay on top of the maintenance. But the thought of a sensor leaving me on the side of the road don’t sit right with me
I support you all the way. America runs on the business of trucking even though they don’t like to admit it. However, I predict that most corporations will eventually require OO trucks to be emissions certified. No matter how ridiculous it is. And one day the automated road train from major hub to hub will rule the day. And it’ll be electric, which in reality isn’t cleaner.
Salute and Respect FAM, I totally agree with you on this 100 % and more. You restore the equipment and it will run circles around the new equipment any day and time. Older equipment is easy and simple to work on and not alot computers, modulars, or sensors.
You make alot of sense with this motivational chat as always. Make your investments reliable and wisely. Keep your positive attitude and mindset bruh,you're saying things and talking real talk .💯👍💪🤜👊🤛💪👍💯
🙏🏾🙏🏾well said
You find a good old truck, put some love and tender care into it and keep your maintenance up. It’ll last a lifetime.
Yup
My 1997 KW with a N-14 Just threw a rod through the block.....I'd be a fool to go buy something newer...New Rebuild time
Trade it into cat for a 3406 new content
@@edwardgaspar5428 I thought about it. Main thing is how much it would be to re wire the truck
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The outfit i run for has all rides from 99 to 07 and is very well kept plus we make very good wages, very little maintenance cause we keep up our stuff
Yes sir good to hear it’s still a lot of us left
Just purchased my first truck 2001 Classic XL wit the 12.7 Detroit. I’m beyond happy with my purchase and I almost got a Cascadia a few years ago and it just didn’t feel right so I stayed patient and waited my turn. 💪🏾 old is the way to go.
I’m happy you went with the classic XL just gotta replace and get rid of all the bugs and you got yourself a tank
Going through the process right now switching my turbo from the VGT turbo on my KW T660 with an ISX15 Truck was already deleted when I purchased it. Excited to see how she gonna run now. Keep doing your thing. Nice Pete by the way
Hopefully she runs great and since the mess is gone it’s best to run a non vgt turbo
Ahh this is the video I was looking for! Man I really appreciate your uploads. Keep up the good passion! I’m so tempted to buy a 2002 or older 379… it’s so hard to find them though! My dream: white, 18speed, 500-600hp minimum, reasonable sleeper size (not too small), specced well enough to haul heavy like preferably long enough to add a drop axle or third axle. Everything else I can modify or add myself.
Much respect lil bro. Keep it up.
I appreciate it
I have a 2018, it’s all in how you drive it, hard acceleration slamming doors not maintaining it at regular intervals and not washing it once a week contributes to loss of revenue and brakedowns. Take care of your investment and it will take care of you.
Agreed 💯
I agree 💯 percent as a start up company. Ole iron paves the way 2 the new iron
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This was a great video. This is exactly what I want to do. I've been saving up to take the plunge.
You can do it man bringing the old back
Church. Thank you for sharing your views.
No problem
Amen driver i have 2 trucks. A 2000 w900 and a 2002 w900 both with 6NZ. Its so much better to be able to work on my trucks if they break down on the side of the road. I run local so my trucks are day cabs but its easier to have the same of everything when i buy parts.. stay safe brother..
Smart man and excellent engines and thank you
My dream truck is a truck that buys an airplane. Keep the chrome, plastic, and pretty long hood.
We all got a preference
100% agree just bought a fld120 flattop with a 3406e model cat and boi is it loud and got good power
Good purchase man if I don’t find my w900 I’m gone flat top fld120 to
I've been stressing this point for years to my comrades. Now years later they all feel the same way. For the price of 1 new truck I can buy 4 at 30,000...it's simple math to me. You can't go wrong starting your business with a detroit series 60 12.7 under the hood. That engine gives you the best bang for your buck hands down. Congratulations bro. Keep your overhead you can control as low as possible for at least 36 months. Pay the business first, be smart, continue to work hard and you'll grow. Peace
I just bought a 98 w900 with a 650hp series 60 for 78k. 250 on overhaul. New Clutch, Drums, Pads, Airbags, Airline hoses and fitting, Floor, New Seats, paint on truck and frame. 3187 a month for 22 months shes paid.
@@achaosg 650hp??! You have yourself a hellaofa machine my guy! Make sure to change the fluid in both the rear axles; lucus sae 75w-90 synthetic gear oil is a good choice; they should take 2 gallons each so a 5 gallon bucket will do. For the tranny go with lucus 50w synthetic. Both good for 500,000 miles. Summit racing has it on sale. The tranny and axle fluids are always neglected in tractors from my experience. That the first thing I do when purchasing used tractors along with flushing the radiator. Diesel Dash has the detroit coolant for the cheapest price.
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i agree 100% currently run a 2001 classic xl 12.7 , wouldnt trade it for nothing!!!
Lifetime truck
just bought a 1990 379 for 5k..solely because i didnt wanna deal with def problems and a computer malfunctioning on me because of a speed bump or the weather
and she does run and drive straight
Hopefully she do you good man
Even if it's not the good time for me to be in this industry.. I totally agree with you 💯 You got it right !!!!! Replica of your truck is coming out soon !!!!!
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I know what you mean about quite ass trucks..I CNT stand it lol...got to HV a lil noise
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I agree with you 💯 I got a Freightliner classic 2007 rebuilt engine new brakes chambers fixed it up pretty good 👍 it's been a good truck I wouldn't buy a new truck with all that computer and sensor mess DEF junk no
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Great video sir. May God bless you and your business 🙏🏽🙏🏽
Thank you very much
I bought a 97 fld 550 cat, 13spd. New transmission, new rods & mains oil pump invested 22k into it
I need to learn how to drive manual on a truck. i have that restrictions on my CDL😩
Get the manual on your license most big rides are manual if you ever wanna drive one
@@InterstateMadeMe I do. Just have to get trained on it.
Appreciate this knowledge to bro you definitely dropped some gems
Thank you
I love my 99 pete, rebuilt it and running hard, you can either spend a lot on fuel and keep running or save on fuel and constantly be in the shop, imma keep running
I’m gone keep running also lol
Bro u dropping gems
💯 you right....! Brother....!
Just my opinion brotha but thanks 💯
%100 agree i have 99 volvo with Detroit 60 spend 85k my dream truck all times fuel efficiency same time good looking with reliable engine if i ever buy truck again going to be glider cascadia hope we can do video together one day
I’ve seen glider Cascadias with Series 60s. Not sexy at all but a workhorse for a guy trying to get after it. Never really cared for Volvos or Prostars
You got the best of both worlds man 💯💯
I own a 2006 kw t600 c15 pre def 1,760,000 miles and still going coast to coast in her. She could use a new paint job 😂
How reliable she is I’m sure you can afford any paint job lol
I roll a 2005 Volvo, rebuilt the motor, rebuilt the suspension back in 2020, 3 years later my truck has only needed oil changes while guys out here paying 1k a week for a new truck and still ending up on the side of the road because of DEF.
Man I’m happy to hear that man I really hope the truck continues to be great. And yea man I couldn’t imagine that
The mfs complaining about your truck are the mfs who’d wet they pants for it if they could get it
Lol true story
I 💯 am with getting an older truck.
Good to hear 👏🏾
That is true wisdom.
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Do ur thang bro 😎
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Young Trucker you drop the deep science today'i'am not a trucker
Thank you
I had my 2000 international 9400 I since 2005. I used the same one truck everyday. one an only truck. I been in business for 18 years. driving for 26 years.
Man that’s great hopefully I can do the same 🙏🏾
Make the money for a few years then move the money to something out of trucking where there not as much risk and liability.
What's less risky than trucking, where as Owner Op you get paid every other day if not everyday?
@@fabriciobraga8298 $40k brakedowns, up-down market, and staged truck accidents make it very risky.
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I like to these motivational speeches and that game talk do more of these 🔥🔥💪💪
Yes sir thank you 🙏🏾
I got a 14 Detroit Diesel in that classic good engine
Yes sir
I agree 1000 %, period point freaking blank. I've been saying that since the DEF systems failure. I don't really care what ppl say old school is the way. 2000& 01 Freightliner Classics, N 14 Red Top 525 & Detroit 12.7 60 series(both paid) are stone reliable
Yes sir
Unfortunately, regulators are making it inconvenient to own these older trucks. I do agree with you though, I rather buy pre emotions truck with miss match paint and a good engine all day.
What old truck is good for heavy haul to start and possibly stay with for the long haul?
Anything old with the right rears and transmission. Engine is your choice you don’t need crazy hp to do heavy haul but it do helps
I think the newer trucks can be efficient, just as a old truck. Stay on top of maintenance and don't over idle the def system. But yes personally I miss my 07 century class I had owned back in 2016 . I should have never sold it
Yes it depends on how you up keep the truck
Let’s gooooooooo🤝🏾🤝🏾🤝🏾
Lol 💪🏾💪🏾
Ac can't be that good when u got a dam fan in it 😂
AC is great I just don’t idle my truck so the fan did me good this summer
You’re aware that 2007 is still an emission truck aren’t you.
Yes but I would have to deal with egr on some engines and 2007 is the cut off cause that it when dpf came about. The only 06-07 engine I would buy is a cat accert MXS and a egr can be fixed
Yezz-n-deed!!!!!!!! 😎🔊🔊🔊🔊🔊🔊🔊🇺🇸👍🏾💰💰💰💰💰💰💰
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Same thing Chasing Andrew Jackson been saying for years.
Well who ever he is he a smart man
Amen 🙏
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The guts are what count
True
Hey bro! How can I get in touch with you?
Instagram
Anyone tell you, you look like Damian Lillard lol
That's my formula. Just bought a 05 9900i cash. Getting it run thru B4 putting it to work
That’s how you do it
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Newer trucks provide higher tax write offs which you need when grossing $200k plus. Also you’ll save at least $1500 per month in diesel OTR in a fuel efficient truck. The old trucks keep you at the pump. Most guys don’t understand the maintenance schedule of the newer trucks. You also should start off with an APU. It saves you from DEF issues.
Bad business model Economics 101 1st day, 1st paragraph, 1st sentence....never purchase anything for write offs. Makes zero sense.
$1500 a month is chump change compared to what a truck sitting at a dealership for a week or two waiting for parts will cost you in lost revenue. But I don’t really believe a newer motor will do that much better on fuel than a Series 60 driven carefully anyway.
@@BrandonLeech it doesn’t have to set at the dealer. Only if you need a warranty repair. Good independent shops can fix everything on any truck.
Lol you shouldn't be chasing write off, all that means is your not paying taxes on money that never made it to your bank account. It's still a L. I rather more money make it to my pocket, pay taxes according and I still will make out better than some guy who had massive write offs because he made no money lol
We all look at things differently
No fucking way old will brake u one transmission go out its over for u
Well one transmission go down for me I just get a brand new one it’s part of the game
@InterstateMadeMe 15k down to get a better one than old one
Lmao who the fuck wants a Columbia
Sound like a mini van. Kmsl 😂
I swear lol
You are living in the 90’s bro lol
The new name of the game is fuel efficiency nothing else but that
False, sometimes it's best not to comment....smh
For big fleets that’s absolutely true. For mom-and-pop outfits or 1-truck-chucks it’s all about reliability and keeping the loads rolling.
They don’t understand the fuel savings and tax write offs for the payment covers the cost of the newer truck. These guys are thinking brand new but you really buy them for $50-60k with 350k miles. That’s the best way to buy.
Well this big long noise Pete did pretty good last quarter on IFTA