@Elise Nicole I've actually heard people say that Psych copied The Mentalist which is impossible since Psych came first. But I agree with you. The only similarity is the fake Psychic thing.
HAHAHA! I love both these shows, but I hate it when people compare them. They're WAY different. One's a comedy, one's a drama. The only similarity is the detective work.
It's the same show. They stole the idea from Psych that's why they make fun of it all the time. They changed a few things and slapped a new name and made it a drama. but its the same premise.
so tell me: is detective sipowicz a zionist? would be sad if he is. and i know he's from another show that actually did rip-off hill street blues. at least those shows aren't by dick wolf.
The mentalist is more of a drama/thriller show. Psych is a comedy so it's not a fair comparison. For me it completely depends on my current mood. I like the mentalist because of Patrick jane's charisma and character, he amuses me.
I think Patrick Jane is hilarious. So is kimball cho. They go for slams instead of tongue in cheek childish humor like Shawn Spencer. Although Gus from psych is always hilarious as well.
I'm not sure if you've since learnt this, but the reason Psych makes joke shots at The Mentalist in a relatively non-offensive, light-hearted way, is because the creators of The Mentalist made their show based on the same core basis that the creators of Psych came up with. Psych came first, so the creators make jokes about The Mentalist, but I don't think there's any actual resentment there. Both are great shows in their own right.
I’m thankful for Psych. Psych is in my top 5 favorite shows. When I kept rewatching it and kept hearing about the Mentalist I gave the show a shot. It is also in my top 5 favorite shows and have rewatched it 3 times already.
Psych is always more fun yes its dumb sometimes but I always choose psych over mentalist coz psych is funny. they even cool about Mentalist copying their show. but I never saw psych mention on mentalist
mentalist vs psych~ crime/action: mentalist humor: psych drama: mentalist romance: psych mystery: normally i'd go for mentalist but they ruined the show at episode 8 season 6 then the next episodes bore the sheeet out of me so im with psych in this. acting: i'm not sure but i think i'd go with mentalist writing: psych verdict: PSYCH is better than mentalist but i'd recommend to watch those 2 you won't regret it. aaaand mentalist is a more darker version, psych is a light, warm hearting show with a little bit of suspense.
Angelo Banigoos Psych has better actors, and they have crime and action. Like, the entire show is about crime. And action? Have you seen the episode where Shawn gets shot and held hostage, so his friends have to find him? That sounds like action to me!
Psych never made it to my shores. It recently popped up on netflix and I've been binging it. The similarities between the 2 never occurred to me until the jokes started coming out
If The Mentalist ripped off Psych because of their similarities, does that mean that Psych ripped off Sherlock Holmes, since they're both about a flamboyant narcisistic detective who makes brilliant deductions from minute details and is accompanied by a more level-headed medical professional? Or can perhaps two works of fiction with similar premises coexist without people losing their bowel movements?
Difference here is that Sherlock Holmes happened forever ago, while The Mentalist happened 2 years after Psych. I'm not saying they copied per say, but I do think that's why people call it a rip off.
szbnahl psych didn't copy Sherlock Holmes trope by trope. Psych is about someone pretending to be psychic to solve crime and has a. Relationship with a. Detective. The mentalist is almost word for word the same. Only difference is psych is written well with a likable cast that can play off one another and hold the show while the mentalist would die if their main lead was gone
Sherlock Holmes’ personality and skill differ from iteration to iteration and is about a Brilliant Detective and his sidekick purely, Pysch is literally about a brilliantly Detective with so many different layers to him who can’t become an actual Detective or P.I so he uses being a “Pyschic” to basically become one. They. Are not. The same!
So many of the actors from one show were cast in another that after a while, I thought they might cast one of the shortlisted Red John suspects as Yin/Yang in the other show. But that would have been too cliché.
The gimmick doesn't make the show. Like *all* works of fiction, it's the characters themselves that distinguish it. It's like all those people who say The Hunger Games ripped off Battle Royale. Anyone who's seen/read both would know that's not true.
I think that Psych was making a joke over the fact that they HAVE in fact made fun of the Mentalist, and in fact are making fun of it through the guy sitting at the computer. I'm supposing that, in production, the actors must not have thought the line was funny enough on its own, so being comedians, they threw in the whining add-lib. But, it also has the benefit of "proving" that Juliet O'Hara has a crush on Shawn. When you turn comedians loose, you can sometimes get gems like Mom's Night Out.
I understand that psych is a comedy and The Mentalist is a drama, but Jane's humor blows anything shawn can do out of the water. Whether it's vindictive or jaunty, he always gets the last laugh.
Psych works so much better than The Mentalist as a show and here's why: it doesn't take itself too seriously. The concept of a fake psychic detective working as a consultant for the police is ridiculous in and of itself. That alone makes The Mentalist awkward to watch, since they try and present it in a realistic, grounded setting. Psych, on the other hand, uses that as a foundation for interpersonal banter and funny situations, since Shawn has basically Costanza'd himself into a silly position from the start. Not to mention that it's much easier to root for Shawn and Gus as heroes. For one, their acts are often highly unethical (breaking and entering, witholding evidence, constantly using deception), but because it's tongue-in-cheek, we can still accept them as flawed protagonists. Not to mention that Gus - especially in earlier seasons - serves as a good foil for Shawn, keeping his more extreme behaviors in check. The Mentalist, on the other hand, plays it completely straight. Patrick Jane does all the same unethical stuff that Shawn and Gus do (and more - he literally buries someone alive in one episode) - except this time, it's presented as a serious drama grounded in real-world ethics. And he gets away with it every time due to his good looks and charm. So instead of coming across as a goofball in a goofy environment itself, Patrick Jane comes off as a remorseless psychopath, and therefore completely unrelatable and impossible to support.
Psych is a silly sitcom, The Mentalist is a real movie-like action drama, very well written and produced. The guy that Jane buried alive was a criminal, so no loss here. Not to mention that Lisbon (Robin Tunney) - also serves as a good foil for Patrick, keeping his more extreme behaviors in check. Simon Baker has a lot more charisma than James Roday.
@@B0X666 "The guy that Jane buried alive was a criminal, so no loss here" We have due process and 8th amendment protections for a reason. You seem like the kind of guy that says "blue lives matter". People acting like sadistic barbarians is, you know, bad - regardless of the person to whom they do it. "Simon Baker has a lot more charisma than James Roday." That is entirely subjective and I 100% disagree. Roday matches the comedic scenery he's in without going over the top. Baker acts like an unlikeable, narcissistic douchebag.
@@SimBol1216 I've watched both shows, I like 'em the same. Psych is pure comedy, though, even forcing laughs sometimes. Too bad the Mentalist is gone, now.
I’m very familiar with both series and just did a rewatch of the Mentalist and I can say unequivocally that your summation of the Mentalist is flawed. The similarities of them both being fake psychics and working with law enforcement ends there. When the series starts, Jane is no longer a fake psychic and doesn’t pretend to be. He emphatically states and reminds people that psychics are fake. He also goes out his way to expose anyone claiming to be a psychic. So the idea that the police wouldn’t hire a highly perceptive person and not a psychic to consult on their cases is wrong. The CBI didn’t hire a psych. Jane only pretended to be one again on very rare occasions. Jane doesn’t get away with most things based on good looks and charms-that’s only with witnesses and criminals. He got away with certain things due to leverage and outmaneuvering the government. Jane is highly intelligent and resourceful, creative, and an effective problem solver. Jane also isn’t a psychopath and does have ethics. However, when it comes to how certain crimes and murders were committed, he can be ruthless. Jane did the same thing the criminal did to someone else when he buried him alive-well, similar. That’s not saying that it’s right, but he rarely goes nuclear. Jane has more occasions like giving a widow the painting her husband did of her back, helping a young girl grieve her mother’s death, and giving his casino earnings (250k) to a woman who’s mother would die because she couldn’t pay medical expenses. The series doesn’t shy away from the fact that Jane does use unethical tactics, which is why he’s been suspended, arrested, charged with murder, on the run, etc. His bad behavior is consistently criticized and complaints have been filed against him on many occasions. People have even tried to kill him. At the same time, Jane experienced a major trauma that he feels responsible for, which led to him having a major breakdown as well as fueled him tunnel vision for revenge. It’s flat out stated that this is unhealthy and that he’d be arrested if he killed Red John. The idea that Jane is remorseless is absurd. He doesn’t express remorse to serial killers, psychopaths, pedophiles, etc. But he feels remorse deeply and often. Also, a man who figured out that a gay man faked his death due to his abusive father, abusive lover, and being mercilessly bullied at work, and then became a drag Queen reinventing himself, thus now living an actual happy life now, which Jane figured out and kept secret. Or the man with the one track mind to find and kill his family’s killer killing an associate of red johns to save lisbons life? Or how he refused to leave her side when she had a bomb strapped to her chest. Was the mentalist background tv for you and you missed all of the key things or something???
to be fair, Jane openly admits to not being a psychic and he is an official consultant working directly with the CBI Henry's biggest dislike of Jane would probably be the off the book/outside the box ways he tricks the killers into revealing themselves
I like it when Shawn gets pissed when that guy makes fun of mentalist
I would too 😂
The mentalist was the reason i searched for "psychic shows like the mentalist" and found psych.
“Why would you do that? Why would you make fun of The Mentalist?”
Mentalist spoilers in the search history is such a brilliant joke
1:03
"I'm giving you first shot before I pitch it to CBS as a television idea." lol.
@Elise Nicole I've actually heard people say that Psych copied The Mentalist which is impossible since Psych came first. But I agree with you. The only similarity is the fake Psychic thing.
I've heard it both ways...
You know that's right.
I hear that.
You heard about Pluto? That's messed up, man.
Derrick Jee is that you Ghee Buttersnaps?
I avoided the mentalist for a long time after watching Psych... but I have to say both shows are awesome....
I love the humor in Psych
i watched psych before watching the mentalist and now that i’m obsessed with both shows i want to rewatch psych
Rewatched
HAHAHA! I love both these shows, but I hate it when people compare them. They're WAY different. One's a comedy, one's a drama. The only similarity is the detective work.
and fake psychics.
It's the same show. They stole the idea from Psych that's why they make fun of it all the time. They changed a few things and slapped a new name and made it a drama. but its the same premise.
"ER to Scrubs"
brilliant! brooklyn nine-nine is ripping off hillstreet blues.
@@pusanghalaw And I have seen enough Hill Street Blues to know whats what.
so tell me: is detective sipowicz a zionist? would be sad if he is. and i know he's from another show that actually did rip-off hill street blues. at least those shows aren't by dick wolf.
Watching The Mentalist with Henry is not a good idea. Because there are two things that he hated the most.
1. Psychic
2. Private Investigator
oh. oh ya.
The mentalist is more of a drama/thriller show. Psych is a comedy so it's not a fair comparison. For me it completely depends on my current mood. I like the mentalist because of Patrick jane's charisma and character, he amuses me.
I think Patrick Jane is hilarious. So is kimball cho. They go for slams instead of tongue in cheek childish humor like Shawn Spencer. Although Gus from psych is always hilarious as well.
You guys are missing the point…. If the ball is in the middle, you guys are to the left or the right of the ball. You are definitely not ON the ball…
I love both shows but I especially love how psych uses mentalist and Shawn's crush on Simon baker.
Love both the shows Jisbon and Shules forever!!
Love this show
I love the mentalist. Why someone would take a shot at that show..
I'm not sure if you've since learnt this, but the reason Psych makes joke shots at The Mentalist in a relatively non-offensive, light-hearted way, is because the creators of The Mentalist made their show based on the same core basis that the creators of Psych came up with. Psych came first, so the creators make jokes about The Mentalist, but I don't think there's any actual resentment there. Both are great shows in their own right.
@@sanjaywilliams6563 I know, it's something shawn said.. I was paraphrasing.. If you watch the video you'll understand.
@@hmarote Oh whoops, I'm embarrassed I missed that haha
there will never be a better show than The Mentalist, that's the only truth
I’m thankful for Psych. Psych is in my top 5 favorite shows. When I kept rewatching it and kept hearing about the Mentalist I gave the show a shot. It is also in my top 5 favorite shows and have rewatched it 3 times already.
Psych is always more fun yes its dumb sometimes but I always choose psych over mentalist coz psych is funny. they even cool about Mentalist copying their show. but I never saw psych mention on mentalist
The Mentalist made a pineapple joke once. Unfunny and forced.
@@kiemer4531 cause it's not even close to a comedy, moron.
@@itssonotover961 dramas can have comedy in them too. Most of the time it's harder to write good comedy into a drama than vice versa.
@@bobkilla430 yes, exactly.
Guess which is the bigger show, if one keeps mentioning the other but not the other way around.
mentalist vs psych~
crime/action: mentalist
humor: psych
drama: mentalist
romance: psych
mystery: normally i'd go for mentalist but they ruined the show at episode 8 season 6 then the next episodes bore the sheeet out of me so im with psych in this.
acting: i'm not sure but i think i'd go with mentalist
writing: psych
verdict: PSYCH is better than mentalist but i'd recommend to watch those 2 you won't regret it.
aaaand mentalist is a more darker version, psych is a light, warm hearting show with a little bit of suspense.
Angelo Banigoos Psych has better actors, and they have crime and action. Like, the entire show is about crime. And action? Have you seen the episode where Shawn gets shot and held hostage, so his friends have to find him? That sounds like action to me!
@@emmynemanimations7249 the mentalist has so much more action that is nothing compared to mentalis
I'll add it's a good idea to watch Mentalist first cause otherwise the lack of repeating jokes will bore you.
@@PredatorH2O what are you trying to say
@@itssonotover961 Recently I was watching Psych so when I went to watch the Mentalist it just seemed too serious and slow paced.
"if I was a fake psychic, it would be eerily similar."
Lmao idk why that always gets me.
this is awesome!!!
Psych never made it to my shores. It recently popped up on netflix and I've been binging it. The similarities between the 2 never occurred to me until the jokes started coming out
If The Mentalist ripped off Psych because of their similarities, does that mean that Psych ripped off Sherlock Holmes, since they're both about a flamboyant narcisistic detective who makes brilliant deductions from minute details and is accompanied by a more level-headed medical professional? Or can perhaps two works of fiction with similar premises coexist without people losing their bowel movements?
Difference here is that Sherlock Holmes happened forever ago, while The Mentalist happened 2 years after Psych. I'm not saying they copied per say, but I do think that's why people call it a rip off.
szbnahl psych didn't copy Sherlock Holmes trope by trope. Psych is about someone pretending to be psychic to solve crime and has a. Relationship with a. Detective. The mentalist is almost word for word the same. Only difference is psych is written well with a likable cast that can play off one another and hold the show while the mentalist would die if their main lead was gone
@@williamnguyen8663 Never cared for the cast of Psych.
Sherlock Holmes’ personality and skill differ from iteration to iteration and is about a Brilliant Detective and his sidekick purely, Pysch is literally about a brilliantly Detective with so many different layers to him who can’t become an actual Detective or P.I so he uses being a “Pyschic” to basically become one. They. Are not. The same!
Psych is kind of a spoof on sherlock holms.
Only difference is one is amazing and entertaining. The other is the Mentalist.
Why would you do that? Why would you make fun of The Mentalist?
Fuck off
One is sitcom without a story the other have a good story and have the most thing people search to watch in movies and tv shows : Revenge
Steve Franks is fqn BRILLIANT. PERIOD!!!!!!!!
I've watched both shows too many times, I need something new but also psychic/mentalist/sherlocky stuff 😄
So many of the actors from one show were cast in another that after a while, I thought they might cast one of the shortlisted Red John suspects as Yin/Yang in the other show. But that would have been too cliché.
The gimmick doesn't make the show. Like *all* works of fiction, it's the characters themselves that distinguish it. It's like all those people who say The Hunger Games ripped off Battle Royale. Anyone who's seen/read both would know that's not true.
Wait, was there an overlap between the running years of Psych and The Mentalist??
In that last scene, were they criticizing themselves for poking fun at the mentalist?
A bit of both lol
I think that Psych was making a joke over the fact that they HAVE in fact made fun of the Mentalist, and in fact are making fun of it through the guy sitting at the computer. I'm supposing that, in production, the actors must not have thought the line was funny enough on its own, so being comedians, they threw in the whining add-lib. But, it also has the benefit of "proving" that Juliet O'Hara has a crush on Shawn. When you turn comedians loose, you can sometimes get gems like Mom's Night Out.
i like both...but the mentalist does not have a gus... and gus is the best part of both shows..
haha love it!!
He irks me.........He's irksome
They're in the same universe 🤕?
The Mentalist is a TV series in this universe by the many times they say it, nope.
I understand that psych is a comedy and The Mentalist is a drama, but Jane's humor blows anything shawn can do out of the water. Whether it's vindictive or jaunty, he always gets the last laugh.
It's just dark humor. What are you talking about? I say references win every time.
And also Simon Baker is amazing!
Lol,
Psych works so much better than The Mentalist as a show and here's why: it doesn't take itself too seriously. The concept of a fake psychic detective working as a consultant for the police is ridiculous in and of itself. That alone makes The Mentalist awkward to watch, since they try and present it in a realistic, grounded setting. Psych, on the other hand, uses that as a foundation for interpersonal banter and funny situations, since Shawn has basically Costanza'd himself into a silly position from the start.
Not to mention that it's much easier to root for Shawn and Gus as heroes. For one, their acts are often highly unethical (breaking and entering, witholding evidence, constantly using deception), but because it's tongue-in-cheek, we can still accept them as flawed protagonists. Not to mention that Gus - especially in earlier seasons - serves as a good foil for Shawn, keeping his more extreme behaviors in check. The Mentalist, on the other hand, plays it completely straight. Patrick Jane does all the same unethical stuff that Shawn and Gus do (and more - he literally buries someone alive in one episode) - except this time, it's presented as a serious drama grounded in real-world ethics. And he gets away with it every time due to his good looks and charm. So instead of coming across as a goofball in a goofy environment itself, Patrick Jane comes off as a remorseless psychopath, and therefore completely unrelatable and impossible to support.
Psych is a silly sitcom, The Mentalist is a real movie-like action drama, very well written and produced. The guy that Jane buried alive was a criminal, so no loss here. Not to mention that Lisbon (Robin Tunney) - also serves as a good foil for Patrick, keeping his more extreme behaviors in check. Simon Baker has a lot more charisma than James Roday.
@@B0X666
"The guy that Jane buried alive was a criminal, so no loss here"
We have due process and 8th amendment protections for a reason. You seem like the kind of guy that says "blue lives matter". People acting like sadistic barbarians is, you know, bad - regardless of the person to whom they do it.
"Simon Baker has a lot more charisma than James Roday."
That is entirely subjective and I 100% disagree. Roday matches the comedic scenery he's in without going over the top. Baker acts like an unlikeable, narcissistic douchebag.
@@SimBol1216 I've watched both shows, I like 'em the same. Psych is pure comedy, though, even forcing laughs sometimes. Too bad the Mentalist is gone, now.
@@SimBol1216 "Patrick Jane comes off as a remorseless psychopath" Everybody loves a Psycho....in Movies and TV Shows.
I’m very familiar with both series and just did a rewatch of the Mentalist and I can say unequivocally that your summation of the Mentalist is flawed.
The similarities of them both being fake psychics and working with law enforcement ends there. When the series starts, Jane is no longer a fake psychic and doesn’t pretend to be. He emphatically states and reminds people that psychics are fake. He also goes out his way to expose anyone claiming to be a psychic. So the idea that the police wouldn’t hire a highly perceptive person and not a psychic to consult on their cases is wrong. The CBI didn’t hire a psych. Jane only pretended to be one again on very rare occasions.
Jane doesn’t get away with most things based on good looks and charms-that’s only with witnesses and criminals. He got away with certain things due to leverage and outmaneuvering the government. Jane is highly intelligent and resourceful, creative, and an effective problem solver.
Jane also isn’t a psychopath and does have ethics. However, when it comes to how certain crimes and murders were committed, he can be ruthless. Jane did the same thing the criminal did to someone else when he buried him alive-well, similar. That’s not saying that it’s right, but he rarely goes nuclear. Jane has more occasions like giving a widow the painting her husband did of her back, helping a young girl grieve her mother’s death, and giving his casino earnings (250k) to a woman who’s mother would die because she couldn’t pay medical expenses.
The series doesn’t shy away from the fact that Jane does use unethical tactics, which is why he’s been suspended, arrested, charged with murder, on the run, etc. His bad behavior is consistently criticized and complaints have been filed against him on many occasions. People have even tried to kill him. At the same time, Jane experienced a major trauma that he feels responsible for, which led to him having a major breakdown as well as fueled him tunnel vision for revenge. It’s flat out stated that this is unhealthy and that he’d be arrested if he killed Red John.
The idea that Jane is remorseless is absurd. He doesn’t express remorse to serial killers, psychopaths, pedophiles, etc. But he feels remorse deeply and often.
Also, a man who figured out that a gay man faked his death due to his abusive father, abusive lover, and being mercilessly bullied at work, and then became a drag Queen reinventing himself, thus now living an actual happy life now, which Jane figured out and kept secret.
Or the man with the one track mind to find and kill his family’s killer killing an associate of red johns to save lisbons life? Or how he refused to leave her side when she had a bomb strapped to her chest.
Was the mentalist background tv for you and you missed all of the key things or something???
Psych is a show for teenagers, The Mentalist is for adults.
Adults who wanna then live in depression or off themselves directly after an episode of it, you still around?
Mensalista é melhor.
The show ripped off psych. It’s trash
Have you actually watched it though
Nonsense. NCIS is a ripoff of CSI then?
Watching The Mentalist with Henry is not a good idea. Because there are two things that he hated the most.
1. Psychic
2. Private Investigator
to be fair, Jane openly admits to not being a psychic and he is an official consultant working directly with the CBI
Henry's biggest dislike of Jane would probably be the off the book/outside the box ways he tricks the killers into revealing themselves