It finally happened. David Corenswet and Rachel Brosnahan are going to play Superman and Lois Lane in James Gunn's Superman Legacy. And I think that's okay.
Casting a relative unknown, smaller actor is a MUCH smarter move than casting an A-lister. All some people would be able to see is an actor they know in a costume, but Coresnswet can make us see him AS Superman (just like what happened with Reeve and Cavill)
To think that James Gunn wanted to cast someone you could really look at and wanna give a hug - just have him enter a room and you immediately feel safe and at ease, and at the same time have that someone be relatively unknown, is perhaps one of the hardest things to nail. And that fact that the vast majority is very excited for this choice is a testament that James Gunn really knows what he’s doing. And you’re absolutely right - while for a moment I was convinced Nicholas Hoult would have been good, it’d be hard to separate actor from character. I would only see Nicholas Hoult in a Superman outfit. With David, I know next to nothing about him, and it’ll be much easier to see him disappear into the role of Superman. Really gives that illusion that he is the alien that looks like one of us, that we don’t much about, and yet somehow we feel safe and at peace with him around. Sorry. Tangent. I’m just excited :)
1) I'm really happy about the casting announcements 2) I'm really, really happy about Rachel Brosnahan. Honestly might be one of the most exciting castings I can think of in the last few years. I could easily see Lois Lane as someone who is more aware of a situation than they may let on (best analogy would be someone like the 11th doctor) 3) Even though he didn't do Supes, I really want to see Rachel Brosnahan and Nicholas Hoult do some sort of movie together. The two feel like they'd play off each other well and I want the vibes there.
God if not Lex, but if Nicholas Hoult landed the DCU's Batman. I think what you said about him playing off Rachel could still work really well. Imagine his Bruce in his playboy-ness getting flirty with Lois and then you have Clark getting jealous of that.
Fantastic casting. Hopefully that continues across the board! I have a lot more hope in lesser known names playing big roles. That could really pay off.
Rachel Brosnahan being cast as Lois Lane has me SO excited!!! The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel is a perfect encapsulation of classic Lois, she’s got a quick-witted and fast-talking charm, she’ll be amazing!
@@VVVY777It's not racism. It's called woke. You have so many great African American characters in comic books like Storm and Vixen and you're thinking about race swapping that doesn't make you feel the character like the comics like I can't make Blade be played by a Latino or Indian actor because we all liked Blade as he is in the comics and the same thing should be considered for Blue Beetle(Jaime Reyes) and Reed Richards. Every role and character does call its own actor that looks and acts similar to it.
@@mohamedfawzy5843 but apparently its ok that Danish folklore featuring a Danish half-fish be compromised for the black agenda. And Viking culture and depictions too. They should've made Mulan black and see how that goes.
do you not know what woke is? you can disagree with race swapping but it's not woke, for example if ariel in the new little mermaid movie had an entire scene about racism then yeah, that's woke.
I would argue that Lois DOES have a hyper defined and specific personality and that’s why I think this was best casting decision by far. I just started watching Marvelous Mrs. Maisel because she was cast, she has the chops for it.
Rachel Brosnahan might be the smartest choice of the cast. She brings depth, sassy, intelligence, elegance, and feistiness. I believe we're on the verge of the most colorful Lois of all time. Rachel set my expectations high. And reading the other comments, not just mine. =D
The second I saw gunn was looking at brosnahan for lois, i immediately knew she was the perfect choice for a lois lane that's closer to the DCAU lois lane
It's funny that in that period of time, Gunn was promoted to Head of DC, set up his plan, announced a new Superman movie, wrote the script, went through several auditions and chose his Superman and Lois Lane... and still no Fantastic Four casting
Bronshan is absolutely an inspired pick for Lois. She was my day 1 pick for her, but im genuinely shocked that she actually got it. I'm still on your fan cast for Leslie Odom Jr. as Lex. That just feels *right*
There aren't a whole lot of characters I'd say this for, but...I kind of think Lex being a white guy is somewhat important. Metanarratively, Superman is an immigrant. Metanarratively, Lex Luthor is Donald Trump. Pretty close to literally. The modern version of Lex (the businessman) that's been around since the John Byrne run in the '80s and carried over into the animated series, was conceived as a direct and pointed satire of Donald Trump. If they were to cast Leslie Odom Jr., or really any minority actor, in that specific role, that adds a layer of irony to the character that isn't there otherwise. It's irony that can be utilized, and I'm not saying I'm 100% against it, Leslie Odom Jr. is great and he'd probably bring a lot to it, but how it contextualizes the character to cast a minority actor is something to consider. And I say this as someone who would be completely on board with Clark being black, Jimmy being trans, Lois being Asian, whatever, that wouldn't fundamentally change who those characters are and their roles in relation to each other. With Lex, making him a minority does change the character, specifically because he's a privileged xenophobe.
i think that with the present state of the dcu, they will play safe the first movies that james produce, so im expecting a all white cast for the first two film they drop. Also, in my mind, lex luthor represents the american billionare, and nowadays those guys are pretty much supervillains in real life, and theyr all white, also the fact that superman is a inmigrant allegory and that makes lex being a white guy more important. So yeah, lets keep him white, as much as i love diversity
@@Swenglish I think that's great analysis, and I only half agree with most of it. Lex's post-Crisis characterization is heavily inspired by the cartoonish greed, ego, and ultimate impotence of Trump (as well as Ted Turner and Howard Hughes), but he is not directly Trump. Metanarratively, Luthor is just a robber baron capitalist and his xenophobic opposition to the metanarrative immigrant is a component of that. You're 1000% right that presenting these qualities in the context of a non-white character presents a ton of complications, but I don't think any of them are completely unmanageable. Lex's post-Crisis characterization is one of a billionaire xenophobic megalomaniac, but one with a massive chip on his shoulder that made his fortune out of nothing but his ruthless genius, who resents Superman for being everything he can't as much as for being from another world. I think a black Lex as a scorned son of Metropolis, a genius that took everything he felt society tried to deny him and fought his way to the heights of power, only to find himself in the shadow of a man whose greatness he perceives as ordained, unearned, and completely impossible for him to attain is incredibly fertile ground. It's funny you say you'd be completely on board with a black Clark, because I think that would actually be so much harder to do. Clark's experience of America growing up and the American public's response to him would be fundamentally different if he were black, even if he ended up with the exact same morals and beliefs as the traditionally white Clark. I would be SUPER interested in exploring those ideas, but I can't imagine a world where Warner Brothers makes a good movie from them.
James Gunn’s “Superman Legacy” not only has a perfectly cast Clark & Lois, but we’re also getting Jimmy Olsen & Krypto the Superdog. Quotes from him about what Superman means to him personally (a story he told about him and his father bonding over Superman as a kid is particularly heartwarming). It makes me confident that he completely understands these characters and I think he hasn’t made a bad superhero film yet. I love Snyder and his films, and I believe the transition should’ve been way smoother. I think we’re in good hands with this film
Wait Whatttt…. Shit I keep forgetting likes bring in obscure ass things into mainstream media, (it’s only a matter of time that Lord Deathman becomes live action)
Would love to see you make a video on Metropolis and how Gunn and his team could create something really special for a city that to me has never been done justice in live action beyond a few locations like the Daily Planet from Smallville and Superman Returns. Personally would love to see an Art Deco City of Tomorrow inspired by the Superman Animated Series for example a timeless hybrid of old and new. The Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League game from what we've seen of the city looks amazing so I'd love to see something like that translated into live action. Metropolis should contrast Gotham City heavily and from alot of live action media they end up looking the same, Looking at you Batman VS Superman.
I have been fan casting him to play Superman for so long and now it's finally happening. LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! Rachel Brosnahan as Lois is also a fantastic casting that has me insanely hyped!!!! Can't wait to see who they'll cast as Lex, Jimmy and the secondary villain of the movie
I get the appeal/idea of either an Alexander or Bill Skarsgard playing Lex and I will likely like either of their portrayal of the character if one is chosen but I KNOW that Theo James would be the perfect actor to play him. He oozes authority and has the commanding voice to convey that seriousness and high stakes along with natural charm and charisma. A very skilled actor who commits to his roles and eats up every scene. Nicolaus Hoult as runner up.
ill take any excuse to see Theo James on the big screen. Divergent books were an absolute obsession for me when i was younger and he and Miles Teller were the only good things to come out of those movies. Currently crawling through season 2 of White Lotus and Theo is brilliant in it
@@Lionbright Crawling, lol. Yes The White Lotus is divine TV and S2 was delicious. Theo was one of the highlights for sure. That performance alone tells me he can play Lex. His screen presence is of out of this world! He mixes manipulation and charisma so well and he would have Lex down to a T. Shave his head and it's a done deal. I suspect he's underappreciated too.
@@hendricksroshane out of White Lotus S2 the main thing that makes me think he'd be perfect is the constant sense of dread his character gave me despite being super bubbly and "fun." It's the perfect smallville-esque Lex Luthor that is a super presentable good nice guy with that hidden layer underneath. You just know deep down that something aint right with his little pauses and smirks
I have been pulling for David Corsenwet to play Clark Kent for almost a year and so happy it payed off… and Rachel Brosnahan is an actress I’ve followed for years and was my fan cast for Poison Ivy for a while, but when she was up for Lois, I was like… That would be perfect. I really hope she gets it… And she did so I guess sometimes hopes do come true
Rachel Brosnahan can do anything. Lois is perfect casting, but I would be interested to see her do a version of Poison Ivy…. But I feel doing a seductress is easy to do?
The thing to remember about Mrs Maisel's stand up. Because it's set so long ago, it's gonna feel a little dated. The audience in that show reacts because other than Lenny Bruce, it's something they've never heard before in the 40s or 50s. Especially from a female performer. Obviously we've seen that sort of thing before.. So of course it's not going to feel the same for us. The fact that it's a period piece negates that for me though. Maybe if you watch with that in mind it'll help.
Having both actors come off shows/films set in ~50’s America, I wonder if we could see some kind of period piece Superman setting (to help differentiate between both DCEU and The Batman)
I’m curious about this too. I think he may make Metropolis a bit ambiguous era wise and definitely I see him making a big difference between Metropolis and Gotham.
A bit about the Superman casting being the "expected" choice. It kind of ties in to what I'm personally hoping for with this new Superman movie, which is that I kind of want it to be... predictable? Standard? I think a lot of people, myself included, are tired of subversions of expectation, especially when the subversion is expected to be the norm and also less interesting than the expected. Overly Sarcastic Productions has a great video on Superman that I think really nailed home what makes Superman "work" in a story, and why so many writers are working against themselves when trying to write him. It's a long video, but my favorite quote from it is something along the lines of "Superman isn't the ultimate warrior, he's the ultimate firefighter". It's said as part of a point being made about why Superman fights are almost always super boring and, more importantly, not the most effective use of his character. I want a Superman movie that is unapologetically, uncynically hopeful, heroic, and happy. Side-note, here's my pitch for a teaser trailer: - - - A busy street in Metropolis. A crowd of people are gathered in front of a burning building, shouts and gasps of worry and horror. We push in on a person turning away from the crowd, looking up into the sky and squinting: "What is that?" he asks out loud. More people start turning around to look. One of them ponders: "Is it a bird?" Another person scoffs and goes: "No, it looks more like a plane." We slowly zoom in on a child in the crowd. A smile slowly spreads across their face. They take a breath, preparing to say something. Smash cut to the title reveal: SUPERMAN
I heard Rachel blew everyone out of the water at her audition. So much so that they didnt initially want to cast an actress older than the actor playing Superman but they had to because of how good her audition was.
I really enjoy Nicolas Holt as an actor and I particularly like him as a villain. When I heard he auditioned for Batman I actually thought he'd make a good Riddler kind of in the vein of his character from Skin, I think that would have been a unique take on the character, a weirdly sexy, charming but with a slightly off-unhinged maniacal feel. I think he could make a great Lex with a similar take since the character was also a straight-up sociopath.
Racheal was like, the dream casting for Louis for me after watching a few episodes of Marvolus Ms. Maisal. I don't know much about David but he seems very well suited for the role. So big win for them.
I know he's older than the character would normally be portrayed, but Nicholas Hoult as Jimmy Olsen does seem like a bit of good casting to me. Of course, maybe that's because what I'm most used to from him, as Hank McCoy, has him as a nerdy, socially awkward person, and I can see that channeled into Jimmy.
Nah, what you described is a good Clark Kent which Hoult can do but not Superman. Also it seems weird if Jimmy Olsen of all people is the same height as Superman.
i LOVE rachel’s casting, and it’s not one i ever would’ve thought of. rachel has a way of completely absorbing herself into her roles (espeically, of course miriam maisel), and i can’t wait to see her in the role as she invokes a lot of personality, and has both the humanity but also the confidence and power to play the role of lois.
Oh shit. Leslie Odom Jr. as Lex is awesome. He's about a decade older than David Corenswet, and I personally feel Supes and Lex should be similar ages. But holy shit, Leslie Odom Jr. as Luthor is a great idea.
If you see Hoult in the xmen movie he sometimes feels more like the analog cyclops so that’s who I’d like to see him play Cyclops although that would just confuse fans so I don’t think we’re going to see it
Rachel Brosnahan is perfect casting like Ryan Reynold or Robert Downy Jr. . I think Lois is supposed to be older, more seasoned and ambitious journalist while Clark is the younger and just coming to the big city. So, 32 is fine. 26 to 33 would be fine for Lois, but depends on the story James Gunn wants to tell.
Anyone who watched bill play the most crazy maniacal tech billionaire in succession knows he can pull off a great lex luthor. Would be a fun one for sure
From what I know so far, these two leads seem great. Excited to see how they play the characters. For Nicholas Hoult, I don't really want to see him play one of the main heroes since he's already played a major hero in the X-Men. I think he could be really fun as a villain such as the Riddler who comes across as really clever but also on the verge of losing it and has some big scenery-chewing moments.
I’m just surprised we got this announcement so soon, like I’d expect this to be announced towards the end of the year at least or at the start of the new year. I can keep thinking that this announcement could further damage the box office futures of Blue Beetle and Aquaman 2. Regardless, I like this casting, and I look forward to whoever gets cast as Jimmy Olsen, Perry White, Ma & Pa Kent, Jor-el & Lara, and if they’ll bring in Lana Lang and Pete Ross.
I'm not following how Pratt and RDJ are at all similar situations. Pratt was an unusual pick where we didn't know quite why he suited the vision for the character until we started seeing footage. RDJ was, at least on the Ain't It Cool News forums where I followed movie news back in the day, painfully obvious on the same level as casting Patrick Stewart as Charles Xavier. He looked the part. He had the charm and swagger, but he could also be sympathetic. He was, forgive me, kind of a mess for part of his life due in part to a substance abuse problem. I knew from day one he was the right guy for the role, right along with a lot of others on AICN. The only surprise, frankly, was how popular he ended up being with general audiences.
I really hope they have good chemistry!! I love Rachel Bresnahan as Ms. Maisel, and I think she can do the snarky, driven, “doesn’t take no for an answer” Lois Lane pretty well.
It sounds like DC will tell stories that are not connected. For example the Joker is it's own thing. I like that everything will not be forced to fit into the same connected universe. My hope is that Gun with green light a Smallville movie at some point.
Can you go out for an assistant casting director position and make some videos about it? It seems to be something you enjoy and are good at and an inside look at the process seems fun.
It would be cool see your predictions of who James Gunn’s friends will play is his DCU. Who will Kevin Bacon play? Who will Michael Rooker play? Will he reprise his previous role or be Johnathan Kent” he may be your father but he wasn’t your daddy” Nathan fillion as booster gold?
I like Nic Holt, but I think he's too young to have had Damien at this point of his Batman career, and even though Gunn hasn't specifically said that we are getting Nightwing, Batgirl etc, his dropping of the line "Bat Family" in his announcement video leads me to believe those characters are already going to be established in this world, which would definitely set our Batman up to be like late 30s early 40s.
Im still holding out for a Jensen Ackles Batman. I know, i know, its the popular fancast that everyone rolls their eyes about but i really think he would do a great job. Gunn has already said he wanted voice roles for animation to cross over with live action and Jensen Ackles already has been the voice of Batman in multiple projects. He is a phenomenal actor and if theyre going for a Batman that already has not just Damien, but Dick, Jason, and Tim as well then he's a good pick for an older but not too old Batman.
@@saifn.7747 True but the fact we're getting a Batman that already has a Bat family means we'll probably get someone on the older side. Especially compared to Superman. Also, everyone is fired. Henry was probably going to be replaced regardless of his age or skill at the role just so this universe can restart from scratch.
@@saifn.7747 Well aside from very few exceptions it's starting from scratch. We're not going to see any of the main cast of the Justice League back. I also wouldn't be surprised if we don't see any of the Suicide Squad cast back either. Especially after the recent flops of DCEU movies, they really need to have a fresh start. If they had kept Cavil, as much as I like him, the movie would probably be dead on arrival
@@redheadmedia7901 you seriously think they’re gonna kick off their brand new cinematic universe with a 45 year old Batman? That’s literally the same issue many people had with Batfleck, and doesn’t really make sense if you can only get one film out of that version before they’re too old to workout for the role.
I can’t believe that My mom heard about it quickly enough to tell me before I could tell her. I still had to explain to her who they were and what this meant for the movie but still it was shocking
I'm excited, Like I said before I'm not familiar with neither of their work, But based off appearance alone they look phenomenal they had that Clark Kent and Lois lane vibe, And with the guy playing Superman being 6'4 that's a good height to tower over somebody. Superman shouldn't be a meat head but he should be fairly tall. I am totally content and have 0 complaints at this moment about both of these actors I'm just excited to see the movie, And to see what's planned for Batman..
For me Nicholas Hoult gives a Nightwing vibe if they go for a slightly older batman. Also, funny you mention Oded Fehr as iron man right after talking about Dr Strange, because to me the Mummy movies are the perfect audition tape for him as Strange
Even if they go for an older Batman, I would never want whoever they cast as Nightwing to be older than their casting for Superman. It would just feel off. I would hope that the plan is for someone in their late 30s early 40s for Bruce - realistic enough to be the father to a 10 year old - with Dick around 18-20 years old so he’d feel more properly like an older brother to a 10 year old Damian rather than just another adult figure in his life. Then Jason, Tim, and the rest of the Bat family would fit in between those two ages.
I'm really curious to see who gets cast as Midnighter and Apollo. The two actors really have to have good chemistry. I've read wildstorm run of The Authority, and their relationship was really fun to read.
Yo Nando, I'd love for you to do a Flash Family & Rogues fancasting video! I think Antony Starr as The Reverse Flash would be perfect given his time as Homelander in The Boys.
I really think Hoult should be the DCU’s Batman. He has a slightly lighter vibe than pattinson, and I can imagine him being the more fantastical Batman. He’s got the height (6ft3) and the look, and on top of that he’s a great actor. If he added some muscle he’d be perfect imo.
I think an "interesting" casting just to have one is the worst type of casting. Sometimes you just need to get the guy who's the most obvious perfect guy for the job. Because going just for interest is how we get Snyder Luthor and Ayer Joker. I just want a superman who can radiate comfort and hope. And be genuine.
Getting ahead of the curve, just in case Corenswet doesn't hit the weights, Superman doesn't need to be muscular. His strength mainly comes from radiation. If Superman HAS to be swole, then Supergirl would have to be also.
@@eliminator173 The new animated movies known as the the "Tomorrowverse" has an athletically average build Superman and hits the points on what's significant about Clark. It's not as necessary as you think, trust🤝
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Casting a relative unknown, smaller actor is a MUCH smarter move than casting an A-lister. All some people would be able to see is an actor they know in a costume, but Coresnswet can make us see him AS Superman (just like what happened with Reeve and Cavill)
To think that James Gunn wanted to cast someone you could really look at and wanna give a hug - just have him enter a room and you immediately feel safe and at ease, and at the same time have that someone be relatively unknown, is perhaps one of the hardest things to nail. And that fact that the vast majority is very excited for this choice is a testament that James Gunn really knows what he’s doing.
And you’re absolutely right - while for a moment I was convinced Nicholas Hoult would have been good, it’d be hard to separate actor from character. I would only see Nicholas Hoult in a Superman outfit. With David, I know next to nothing about him, and it’ll be much easier to see him disappear into the role of Superman. Really gives that illusion that he is the alien that looks like one of us, that we don’t much about, and yet somehow we feel safe and at peace with him around.
Sorry. Tangent. I’m just excited :)
@@appl3s0ftno don’t be sorry. I share everything you just said. I’m excited as hell too. 😆😆😆😀😀😀
@@Ay3shizzle glad we can bond over this news! :)
@@appl3s0ft same here bro
At this point I think it's a rule for Superman to be cast as an unknown
1) I'm really happy about the casting announcements
2) I'm really, really happy about Rachel Brosnahan. Honestly might be one of the most exciting castings I can think of in the last few years. I could easily see Lois Lane as someone who is more aware of a situation than they may let on (best analogy would be someone like the 11th doctor)
3) Even though he didn't do Supes, I really want to see Rachel Brosnahan and Nicholas Hoult do some sort of movie together. The two feel like they'd play off each other well and I want the vibes there.
God if not Lex, but if Nicholas Hoult landed the DCU's Batman. I think what you said about him playing off Rachel could still work really well. Imagine his Bruce in his playboy-ness getting flirty with Lois and then you have Clark getting jealous of that.
Boy do I have some news for you😂
Fantastic casting. Hopefully that continues across the board! I have a lot more hope in lesser known names playing big roles. That could really pay off.
For sure. Worked with LOTR
Shut up😅😂he literally an unknown
@@winterunterseher8937I hope you're joking and don't actually mean the Amazon trash show
@@TheScepticalThinker I'm pretty sure he means Peter Jackson's trilogy
@untitled3426 Good, because the Amazon show was a shit show!
Rachel Brosnahan being cast as Lois Lane has me SO excited!!! The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel is a perfect encapsulation of classic Lois, she’s got a quick-witted and fast-talking charm, she’ll be amazing!
It's so racist- no black woman was considered in the casting. /sarcasm
@@VVVY777It's not racism. It's called woke. You have so many great African American characters in comic books like Storm and Vixen and you're thinking about race swapping that doesn't make you feel the character like the comics like I can't make Blade be played by a Latino or Indian actor because we all liked Blade as he is in the comics and the same thing should be considered for Blue Beetle(Jaime Reyes) and Reed Richards. Every role and character does call its own actor that looks and acts similar to it.
@@mohamedfawzy5843 but apparently its ok that Danish folklore featuring a Danish half-fish be compromised for the black agenda. And Viking culture and depictions too.
They should've made Mulan black and see how that goes.
@@VVVY777 there are black superman name val zod and calvin ellis
do you not know what woke is? you can disagree with race swapping but it's not woke, for example if ariel in the new little mermaid movie had an entire scene about racism then yeah, that's woke.
I would argue that Lois DOES have a hyper defined and specific personality and that’s why I think this was best casting decision by far. I just started watching Marvelous Mrs. Maisel because she was cast, she has the chops for it.
Rachel Brosnahan might be the smartest choice of the cast. She brings depth, sassy, intelligence, elegance, and feistiness. I believe we're on the verge of the most colorful Lois of all time. Rachel set my expectations high. And reading the other comments, not just mine. =D
The second I saw gunn was looking at brosnahan for lois, i immediately knew she was the perfect choice for a lois lane that's closer to the DCAU lois lane
She was a great choice for Lois Lane, beautiful , fair skin, brown hair,
It's funny that in that period of time, Gunn was promoted to Head of DC, set up his plan, announced a new Superman movie, wrote the script, went through several auditions and chose his Superman and Lois Lane... and still no Fantastic Four casting
Pretty sure they’re just waiting for d23 this September
@@marcelcjr9313I come from the future. They weren't waiting for d23. But we finally got a cast, while superman is already filming
You’re the only person I care to hear about on this matter I specifically didn’t watch any of the videos bc I wanted to hear your opinions first lol
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@@owengibby lol
Bronshan is absolutely an inspired pick for Lois. She was my day 1 pick for her, but im genuinely shocked that she actually got it.
I'm still on your fan cast for Leslie Odom Jr. as Lex. That just feels *right*
Leslie Odom Jr. is returning to Broadway in the Fall. So, he probably will not even be available.
@@ChienaAvtzon, how about Edward Holcroft, Who you may know best from Kingsman as Charlie?
There aren't a whole lot of characters I'd say this for, but...I kind of think Lex being a white guy is somewhat important. Metanarratively, Superman is an immigrant. Metanarratively, Lex Luthor is Donald Trump. Pretty close to literally. The modern version of Lex (the businessman) that's been around since the John Byrne run in the '80s and carried over into the animated series, was conceived as a direct and pointed satire of Donald Trump.
If they were to cast Leslie Odom Jr., or really any minority actor, in that specific role, that adds a layer of irony to the character that isn't there otherwise. It's irony that can be utilized, and I'm not saying I'm 100% against it, Leslie Odom Jr. is great and he'd probably bring a lot to it, but how it contextualizes the character to cast a minority actor is something to consider.
And I say this as someone who would be completely on board with Clark being black, Jimmy being trans, Lois being Asian, whatever, that wouldn't fundamentally change who those characters are and their roles in relation to each other. With Lex, making him a minority does change the character, specifically because he's a privileged xenophobe.
i think that with the present state of the dcu, they will play safe the first movies that james produce, so im expecting a all white cast for the first two film they drop. Also, in my mind, lex luthor represents the american billionare, and nowadays those guys are pretty much supervillains in real life, and theyr all white, also the fact that superman is a inmigrant allegory and that makes lex being a white guy more important. So yeah, lets keep him white, as much as i love diversity
@@Swenglish I think that's great analysis, and I only half agree with most of it.
Lex's post-Crisis characterization is heavily inspired by the cartoonish greed, ego, and ultimate impotence of Trump (as well as Ted Turner and Howard Hughes), but he is not directly Trump. Metanarratively, Luthor is just a robber baron capitalist and his xenophobic opposition to the metanarrative immigrant is a component of that. You're 1000% right that presenting these qualities in the context of a non-white character presents a ton of complications, but I don't think any of them are completely unmanageable. Lex's post-Crisis characterization is one of a billionaire xenophobic megalomaniac, but one with a massive chip on his shoulder that made his fortune out of nothing but his ruthless genius, who resents Superman for being everything he can't as much as for being from another world. I think a black Lex as a scorned son of Metropolis, a genius that took everything he felt society tried to deny him and fought his way to the heights of power, only to find himself in the shadow of a man whose greatness he perceives as ordained, unearned, and completely impossible for him to attain is incredibly fertile ground.
It's funny you say you'd be completely on board with a black Clark, because I think that would actually be so much harder to do. Clark's experience of America growing up and the American public's response to him would be fundamentally different if he were black, even if he ended up with the exact same morals and beliefs as the traditionally white Clark. I would be SUPER interested in exploring those ideas, but I can't imagine a world where Warner Brothers makes a good movie from them.
'Both Skarsgards' he says as if there aren't eight Skarsgards at least four of which are working actors
James Gunn’s “Superman Legacy” not only has a perfectly cast Clark & Lois, but we’re also getting Jimmy Olsen & Krypto the Superdog. Quotes from him about what Superman means to him personally (a story he told about him and his father bonding over Superman as a kid is particularly heartwarming). It makes me confident that he completely understands these characters and I think he hasn’t made a bad superhero film yet. I love Snyder and his films, and I believe the transition should’ve been way smoother. I think we’re in good hands with this film
Wait Whatttt…. Shit I keep forgetting likes bring in obscure ass things into mainstream media, (it’s only a matter of time that Lord Deathman becomes live action)
Would love to see you make a video on Metropolis and how Gunn and his team could create something really special for a city that to me has never been done justice in live action beyond a few locations like the Daily Planet from Smallville and Superman Returns. Personally would love to see an Art Deco City of Tomorrow inspired by the Superman Animated Series for example a timeless hybrid of old and new. The Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League game from what we've seen of the city looks amazing so I'd love to see something like that translated into live action. Metropolis should contrast Gotham City heavily and from alot of live action media they end up looking the same, Looking at you Batman VS Superman.
Facts. Only time Gotham looked good in the DCEU was in the Flash film. Metropolis was the same though as they connected back to Man of Steel.
I’m impressed with how fast all of this has happened. We only learned that James Gunn would be writing a Superman movie six months ago.
I have been fan casting him to play Superman for so long and now it's finally happening. LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
Rachel Brosnahan as Lois is also a fantastic casting that has me insanely hyped!!!!
Can't wait to see who they'll cast as Lex, Jimmy and the secondary villain of the movie
I get the appeal/idea of either an Alexander or Bill Skarsgard playing Lex and I will likely like either of their portrayal of the character if one is chosen but I KNOW that Theo James would be the perfect actor to play him. He oozes authority and has the commanding voice to convey that seriousness and high stakes along with natural charm and charisma. A very skilled actor who commits to his roles and eats up every scene. Nicolaus Hoult as runner up.
ill take any excuse to see Theo James on the big screen. Divergent books were an absolute obsession for me when i was younger and he and Miles Teller were the only good things to come out of those movies. Currently crawling through season 2 of White Lotus and Theo is brilliant in it
@@Lionbright Crawling, lol. Yes The White Lotus is divine TV and S2 was delicious. Theo was one of the highlights for sure. That performance alone tells me he can play Lex. His screen presence is of out of this world! He mixes manipulation and charisma so well and he would have Lex down to a T. Shave his head and it's a done deal. I suspect he's underappreciated too.
Again, does nobody think about Edward Holcroft for Lex? He was already in the Kingsman franchise, where he played a villain.
Theo exhibits cocaine personality. And that is perfect for Lex Luthor.
@@hendricksroshane out of White Lotus S2 the main thing that makes me think he'd be perfect is the constant sense of dread his character gave me despite being super bubbly and "fun." It's the perfect smallville-esque Lex Luthor that is a super presentable good nice guy with that hidden layer underneath. You just know deep down that something aint right with his little pauses and smirks
I have been pulling for David Corsenwet to play Clark Kent for almost a year and so happy it payed off… and Rachel Brosnahan is an actress I’ve followed for years and was my fan cast for Poison Ivy for a while, but when she was up for Lois, I was like… That would be perfect. I really hope she gets it… And she did so I guess sometimes hopes do come true
Rachel Brosnahan can do anything. Lois is perfect casting, but I would be interested to see her do a version of Poison Ivy…. But I feel doing a seductress is easy to do?
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I like she's older than David like Lois is older than Clark
The thing to remember about Mrs Maisel's stand up. Because it's set so long ago, it's gonna feel a little dated. The audience in that show reacts because other than Lenny Bruce, it's something they've never heard before in the 40s or 50s. Especially from a female performer. Obviously we've seen that sort of thing before.. So of course it's not going to feel the same for us. The fact that it's a period piece negates that for me though. Maybe if you watch with that in mind it'll help.
Having both actors come off shows/films set in ~50’s America, I wonder if we could see some kind of period piece Superman setting (to help differentiate between both DCEU and The Batman)
I’m curious about this too. I think he may make Metropolis a bit ambiguous era wise and definitely I see him making a big difference between Metropolis and Gotham.
With the general perception of The Flash, I think this announcement was strategically done to keep/restart the momentum.
I really love Rachel Brosnahan for Lois, a more sassy and situationally aware take on the character should do wonders
Good to know that James Gunn is a big fan of the channel, the only possible explanation for this happening.
What makes you think that?
Amazing casting! 😍 Jewish, Handsome, tall, dark hair, blue eyes, great body, great actor! 10/10
Just like Clark 😊
It’s always nice to hear an actor is a seemingly good person, but that’s extra reason to root for them as Superman. Can’t wait.
A bit about the Superman casting being the "expected" choice.
It kind of ties in to what I'm personally hoping for with this new Superman movie, which is that I kind of want it to be... predictable? Standard? I think a lot of people, myself included, are tired of subversions of expectation, especially when the subversion is expected to be the norm and also less interesting than the expected.
Overly Sarcastic Productions has a great video on Superman that I think really nailed home what makes Superman "work" in a story, and why so many writers are working against themselves when trying to write him. It's a long video, but my favorite quote from it is something along the lines of "Superman isn't the ultimate warrior, he's the ultimate firefighter". It's said as part of a point being made about why Superman fights are almost always super boring and, more importantly, not the most effective use of his character.
I want a Superman movie that is unapologetically, uncynically hopeful, heroic, and happy. Side-note, here's my pitch for a teaser trailer:
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A busy street in Metropolis. A crowd of people are gathered in front of a burning building, shouts and gasps of worry and horror. We push in on a person turning away from the crowd, looking up into the sky and squinting:
"What is that?" he asks out loud.
More people start turning around to look. One of them ponders:
"Is it a bird?"
Another person scoffs and goes:
"No, it looks more like a plane."
We slowly zoom in on a child in the crowd. A smile slowly spreads across their face. They take a breath, preparing to say something.
Smash cut to the title reveal:
SUPERMAN
Love the videos Nando. Really enjoyed the X-men director video
I heard Rachel blew everyone out of the water at her audition. So much so that they didnt initially want to cast an actress older than the actor playing Superman but they had to because of how good her audition was.
I really enjoy Nicolas Holt as an actor and I particularly like him as a villain. When I heard he auditioned for Batman I actually thought he'd make a good Riddler kind of in the vein of his character from Skin, I think that would have been a unique take on the character, a weirdly sexy, charming but with a slightly off-unhinged maniacal feel.
I think he could make a great Lex with a similar take since the character was also a straight-up sociopath.
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Racheal was like, the dream casting for Louis for me after watching a few episodes of Marvolus Ms. Maisal. I don't know much about David but he seems very well suited for the role. So big win for them.
I know he's older than the character would normally be portrayed, but Nicholas Hoult as Jimmy Olsen does seem like a bit of good casting to me. Of course, maybe that's because what I'm most used to from him, as Hank McCoy, has him as a nerdy, socially awkward person, and I can see that channeled into Jimmy.
Dude Nicolas Braun is the only choice for Jimmy olsen
Nah, what you described is a good Clark Kent which Hoult can do but not Superman. Also it seems weird if Jimmy Olsen of all people is the same height as Superman.
i LOVE rachel’s casting, and it’s not one i ever would’ve thought of. rachel has a way of completely absorbing herself into her roles (espeically, of course miriam maisel), and i can’t wait to see her in the role as she invokes a lot of personality, and has both the humanity but also the confidence and power to play the role of lois.
I hope that they keep Pattinson as the Batman in the DCU. I know it won't happen, but I can dream 😂
For the bazzilith time.
Pattinson is Earth 2.
Nothing to do with the central DCU.
@@dcmastermindfirst9418they just said let them dream.. im sure they’re aware Pattinson won’t be in the main dc verse
Lois is a God tier casting
Lol and Corenswet isn't????
Guy looks like he jumped off the pages of a Superman comic
I have been dreaming of an All-Star Superman film since it came out. I am so excited to see James Gunn take a shot at a Rebirth style Superman.
Good casting. I'm excited for this movie.
I'm excited for 2 things: 1) When your pick for Lex Luthor is announced. Leslie Oddom Jr. is inevitable!
2) Your upcoming "Dear Mr. Gunn" videos.
Oh shit. Leslie Odom Jr. as Lex is awesome. He's about a decade older than David Corenswet, and I personally feel Supes and Lex should be similar ages. But holy shit, Leslie Odom Jr. as Luthor is a great idea.
I swear they better keep Barry Allen (NOT Ezra Miller) but Barry the character
For the life of me, I can't believe no one has fantastic Hoult for Nightwing. It's picture perfect
Superman has a strong jaw line and blue eyes, and so does Reeves, Cavill, and this new guy, he looks like Superman
Bill Skasgard for Lex Luthor and Alex Skarsgard for Braniac
This is the phrase "passive aggressive appeasement" given video form.
I was waiting for this video as soon as I heard the news!
If you see Hoult in the xmen movie he sometimes feels more like the analog cyclops so that’s who I’d like to see him play Cyclops although that would just confuse fans so I don’t think we’re going to see it
I think you have my same opinion. I would like to see Nicholas Hoult as the MCU version of Cyclops.
Rachel Brosnahan is perfect casting like Ryan Reynold or Robert Downy Jr. . I think Lois is supposed to be older, more seasoned and ambitious journalist while Clark is the younger and just coming to the big city. So, 32 is fine. 26 to 33 would be fine for Lois, but depends on the story James Gunn wants to tell.
Anyone who watched bill play the most crazy maniacal tech billionaire in succession knows he can pull off a great lex luthor. Would be a fun one for sure
I'll wait and see if they're good!
Good to see you excited again. You’ve seemed a bit worn out lately.
From what I know so far, these two leads seem great. Excited to see how they play the characters.
For Nicholas Hoult, I don't really want to see him play one of the main heroes since he's already played a major hero in the X-Men. I think he could be really fun as a villain such as the Riddler who comes across as really clever but also on the verge of losing it and has some big scenery-chewing moments.
I always look at Hoult as The Riddler
Alexander Skarsgard as Luthor is PERFECT
We can see Superman legacy already starting to booming in theatres based on this casting
Time to begin the long and difficult road of trying not to hear "Corn Sweat" every time I hear this guys name
I’m just surprised we got this announcement so soon, like I’d expect this to be announced towards the end of the year at least or at the start of the new year. I can keep thinking that this announcement could further damage the box office futures of Blue Beetle and Aquaman 2. Regardless, I like this casting, and I look forward to whoever gets cast as Jimmy Olsen, Perry White, Ma & Pa Kent, Jor-el & Lara, and if they’ll bring in Lana Lang and Pete Ross.
Considering the plan is to start shooting January of next year, there's no way they could have held out on casting announcements for so long
I'm not following how Pratt and RDJ are at all similar situations. Pratt was an unusual pick where we didn't know quite why he suited the vision for the character until we started seeing footage. RDJ was, at least on the Ain't It Cool News forums where I followed movie news back in the day, painfully obvious on the same level as casting Patrick Stewart as Charles Xavier. He looked the part. He had the charm and swagger, but he could also be sympathetic. He was, forgive me, kind of a mess for part of his life due in part to a substance abuse problem. I knew from day one he was the right guy for the role, right along with a lot of others on AICN. The only surprise, frankly, was how popular he ended up being with general audiences.
Love Ms Maisel and the Superman actor looks like a mini-Cavill
I really hope they have good chemistry!! I love Rachel Bresnahan as Ms. Maisel, and I think she can do the snarky, driven, “doesn’t take no for an answer” Lois Lane pretty well.
New casting. 👍🏼
New subscriber :)
Corenswet is a great choice. I don’t want them taking any big risks on the anchor of their universe tbh
It sounds like DC will tell stories that are not connected. For example the Joker is it's own thing. I like that everything will not be forced to fit into the same connected universe. My hope is that Gun with green light a Smallville movie at some point.
10:28 No it's exactly what you're expecting, it's exactly what everyone was expecting.
Oded Fehr is the actor from the Mummy you are thinking of.
Can you go out for an assistant casting director position and make some videos about it? It seems to be something you enjoy and are good at and an inside look at the process seems fun.
It would be cool see your predictions of who James Gunn’s friends will play is his DCU. Who will Kevin Bacon play? Who will Michael Rooker play? Will he reprise his previous role or be Johnathan Kent” he may be your father but he wasn’t your daddy” Nathan fillion as booster gold?
The reason for not having a young Batman is because we need Nightwing and Red Hood.
I like Nic Holt, but I think he's too young to have had Damien at this point of his Batman career, and even though Gunn hasn't specifically said that we are getting Nightwing, Batgirl etc, his dropping of the line "Bat Family" in his announcement video leads me to believe those characters are already going to be established in this world, which would definitely set our Batman up to be like late 30s early 40s.
One day. Cage, one day.
Nicolas hoult could be barry allen in dcu
I love her on Ms Maisel, so I have hope for her!
David looks like Superman
I can’t believe they finally listen to your scripts after they keep asking you to make them
Im still holding out for a Jensen Ackles Batman. I know, i know, its the popular fancast that everyone rolls their eyes about but i really think he would do a great job. Gunn has already said he wanted voice roles for animation to cross over with live action and Jensen Ackles already has been the voice of Batman in multiple projects. He is a phenomenal actor and if theyre going for a Batman that already has not just Damien, but Dick, Jason, and Tim as well then he's a good pick for an older but not too old Batman.
Bruh he’s 45. Henry is 40 and has been fired
@@saifn.7747 True but the fact we're getting a Batman that already has a Bat family means we'll probably get someone on the older side. Especially compared to Superman. Also, everyone is fired. Henry was probably going to be replaced regardless of his age or skill at the role just so this universe can restart from scratch.
@@redheadmedia7901 it’s not gonna start from scratch tho. Peacemaker S2, Amanda Waller?
@@saifn.7747 Well aside from very few exceptions it's starting from scratch. We're not going to see any of the main cast of the Justice League back. I also wouldn't be surprised if we don't see any of the Suicide Squad cast back either. Especially after the recent flops of DCEU movies, they really need to have a fresh start. If they had kept Cavil, as much as I like him, the movie would probably be dead on arrival
@@redheadmedia7901 you seriously think they’re gonna kick off their brand new cinematic universe with a 45 year old Batman? That’s literally the same issue many people had with Batfleck, and doesn’t really make sense if you can only get one film out of that version before they’re too old to workout for the role.
We need a batman fancasting from you Bro
I can’t believe that My mom heard about it quickly enough to tell me before I could tell her. I still had to explain to her who they were and what this meant for the movie but still it was shocking
I'm excited, Like I said before I'm not familiar with neither of their work, But based off appearance alone they look phenomenal they had that Clark Kent and Lois lane vibe, And with the guy playing Superman being 6'4 that's a good height to tower over somebody. Superman shouldn't be a meat head but he should be fairly tall. I am totally content and have 0 complaints at this moment about both of these actors I'm just excited to see the movie, And to see what's planned for Batman..
For me Nicholas Hoult gives a Nightwing vibe if they go for a slightly older batman. Also, funny you mention Oded Fehr as iron man right after talking about Dr Strange, because to me the Mummy movies are the perfect audition tape for him as Strange
Even if they go for an older Batman, I would never want whoever they cast as Nightwing to be older than their casting for Superman. It would just feel off.
I would hope that the plan is for someone in their late 30s early 40s for Bruce - realistic enough to be the father to a 10 year old - with Dick around 18-20 years old so he’d feel more properly like an older brother to a 10 year old Damian rather than just another adult figure in his life. Then Jason, Tim, and the rest of the Bat family would fit in between those two ages.
If they do a nightwing Tom Blyth from Billy the Kid is my pick
I'm really curious to see who gets cast as Midnighter and Apollo. The two actors really have to have good chemistry. I've read wildstorm run of The Authority, and their relationship was really fun to read.
I'm only in the intro of the video but are they really doing midnighter and apollo??? I would love to see that
@@samseloo4962 well, they are definitely going to be part of The Authority movie. It wouldn't be the same without them.
These two characters are probably my favourites in The Authority, so I really hope they get the casting right!
even at 2x speed you have the same pace haha
I know this is cliche but I would kinda Corey Stoll as Lex Luthor
Holt playing Lex will test his metal
After watching The Great, I'm totally onboard with Nicholas Hoult as Luthor. There are a lot of great performances in that show but he's phenomenal.
She WON 2 Golden Globes and won the Emmy for Best Actress.
Yo Nando, I'd love for you to do a Flash Family & Rogues fancasting video! I think Antony Starr as The Reverse Flash would be perfect given his time as Homelander in The Boys.
I've actually got a casting list for The Rogue's as well as the Flash Family
I need everyone to stop playing about that blade movie as if the studio wasn’t fucking with Mr Snipes
6’4” blue eyes dark and handsome
… and wait till he puts on all the muscle!
I completley forgot about Quibi
Nicholas Hoult will be 34 years old in 2023
He kinda looks like Topher Grace
Cornsweat
I really think Hoult should be the DCU’s Batman. He has a slightly lighter vibe than pattinson, and I can imagine him being the more fantastical Batman. He’s got the height (6ft3) and the look, and on top of that he’s a great actor. If he added some muscle he’d be perfect imo.
It's good to know theyre hot.
Nicolas Holt would be a great Hal Jordan imo
Still waiting on that Batman beyond casting
I think an "interesting" casting just to have one is the worst type of casting. Sometimes you just need to get the guy who's the most obvious perfect guy for the job. Because going just for interest is how we get Snyder Luthor and Ayer Joker. I just want a superman who can radiate comfort and hope. And be genuine.
i've been a huge fan of brosnahan since house of cards, she's gonna kill it.
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I thought closet was coming back at Batman for brave and the bold
I'm so bummed Emma didn't get it, she's fantastic.
Nicholas Hoult as Apollo? The Superman of the Authority?
Getting ahead of the curve, just in case Corenswet doesn't hit the weights, Superman doesn't need to be muscular. His strength mainly comes from radiation. If Superman HAS to be swole, then Supergirl would have to be also.
He has always been portrayed as muscular. Always. He has to be
@@eliminator173 The new animated movies known as the the "Tomorrowverse" has an athletically average build Superman and hits the points on what's significant about Clark. It's not as necessary as you think, trust🤝
@jasonhudson4966 I'm not saying he has to be jacked but he does have to be muscular. He cant be scrawny
@@eliminator173 my bad for misunderstanding