Our Thoughts on Megyn Kelly’s Comments on Blackface
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- Опубликовано: 23 окт 2018
- We discuss Megyn Kelly’s recent comments about blackface during a segment on her show about offensive Halloween costumes. Real fam, what are your thoughts?
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Let's include native Americans. Because people wear "indian" costumes every year.. ..and nobody says anything
GarynLouis I wish I could like your comment more than once
ME TOO! I dressed up like a COWBOY and INDIAN ~~ So what!!!
@@gingerderrick7423 it's disrespectful, because "Indians" aren't a made up thing. It's a real culture thats still alive.
The difference is basically what loni said. Black face is a characiture. Black Americans don't look only one way. There is no special traditional dress for black people. Some parts of Africa, however, wear certain garb that is part of their culture, so do some Native Americans. I don't see it offensive for ppl to admire a culture and dress in said garb. Black face is, "let's make fun of black ppl by painting our faces BLACK (tho the skin is different shades of BROWN) and making the lips extra big (although many black people's lips aren't that big and many races of people have naturally big lips) and hop around like a fool as if all black people act like fools." But I don't see anything wrong with someone dressing up like another culture as long as it's dignified, tasteful and done to compliment them.
@@TTeeee you dont see it because you dont understand, the regalia(clothes) worn have sacred meaning. They are not a costume, and are ridiculed constantly, theres even a team called the redskins. And natives are exiled to reservations like a concentration camp. Learn about our history
People only “feel sorry” when their image gets damaged.
Disneygucci You are absolutely singing my tune.
Disneygucci True
Disneygucci frfr
Disneygucci Absolutely true. When she was speaking about it she truly and completely felt what she herself was saying. There was no holding back, she just kept going and sharing her ignorant opinion. So apologizing after the backlash is just trying to save herself.
That's not always true, lots of people have good intentions and make mistakes, but it's definitely true in some cases. Some people do not have empathy for the people they hurt, and don't really care about repairing that hurt, and those are the people who are the ones like you're talking about.
The thumbnail 😂
Blackface
She was real confident about her comments yesterday but now she's apologetic!!! GTFOH
Her comments were fine she only apologized because she was bullied! Dressing up as a character and wearing makeup dark or light is fine!
Doing a straight up black face not good bit as a character it’s fine!
Yea ikr,
she shouldnt need to apologize for speaking her mind.
Yeah because you have to take offense to everything . It's ok for black comics to spend there whole time on stage making fun of white ppl , talking about how they walk , talk , live , dress .. but the second an 8yr old boy wants to dress up like Mike Lowry for Halloween because he likes him you want to all of a sudden be disrespected. Stop being the victim all the time
@@joyal77 oh yea putting black paint on and looking like a dam fool
Is fine ?
Blackface is never okay... no matter what you mean by it. I agree with Loni. You can dress up as a person without changing your skin color!
I don't participate in that day but as a person of color, Megan said nothing which offended me at all. I think the media blew this way out of line. Whatever happened to sharing an opinion, remember freedom of speech is still in the American construction.
Vee Just because it didn’t offend you doesn’t mean it’s okay. There is a history behind blackface and it’s just not okay to do. You can still portray a character without changing your skin tone. It’s really that simple.
You should remember that Freedom of speech does not protect you from criticism/consequences from the public.
Vee just because it doesn’t offend you doesn’t mean it can’t offend other people, and freedom of speech is a thing yes, but this women has a platform. She doesn’t need to say all of this stupidity. It’s not like you just said it to herself. She said it on national television
maybe you missed the actual jist of free speech there Ezra.
black sparrow Freedom of speech should not be used as an excuse to say whatever you want to say even if it’s racist and offensive. She is on national tv with her own show and millions of people watching. If people see that she can say things like that and still be on tv, they will think it’s okay too. She is too grown to be playing stupid. What she said was irresponsible and just because it didn’t offend you personally doesn’t mean it’s okay.
Please don’t make excuses for these people because they sure as hell don’t make excuses for people of color.
I'm so sick of these culturally clueless commentators...
Culturally clueless? Explain
@@estevantrujillo6498 clueless of other cultures....
Well that's explanatory.
I'm so sick of people who can't spell correctly or defend their original rationalization.
@@heathertorres5395 thanks sis for pointing out I had a typo. Slip of the finger. Now to return the favor, I'll like this comment so maybe your dry ass reply will get some love. *fingers crossed*
"It was Jamal the intern like dawg that ain't right"......
Too funny!!!
"you can be a white Diana Ross." exactly. if i'd dress up as some asian character i'd not make my eyes slanted either
so it's not ok to paint yourself black for a character
@Shy McLean it amazes me that many people don't get that being black is not part of a costume
if you can't make your costume work without painting yourself black then it's a bad costume
a person can wear a one glitter glove and people immediately know that person is impersonating michael jackson
Dave Connolly stop being ignorant
if you’d have done some research you’d know why she straightens her hair
blacks are discriminated against their natural hairstyles like afros, braids, twists and locks, and only recently california became the first state to ban discrimination against natural hairstyles
blacks being FORCED to straighten their hair is different than whites CHOOSING to paint their face black, not to mention straight haired people weren’t mocked and discrimination bc of their straight hair like blacks bc of the color of their skin
you can’t compare the two
Dave Connolly Dude, are you trying to say only while people have straight hair?! GTFO 🚶♂️👉🚪
Best not get a tan either then.
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D C lol Africans can have straight hair too
She doesn't watch the news? She is the news! There's no excuse for that type of ignorance in this day and age.🤦🏽♀️
She literally has no excuse to be ignorant, she’s a journalist
Hello this bitch needs to know her history!!!pathetic .i wish she would come out blackface on holloween!! Lol
Tavia A. Facts
@T Y ?? Ok totally lost me with ..
It was like she just stepped out of a 1950's time machine.
I'm still trying to figure out why Megyn Kelly still has her own show?
(Update: I did not expect this blow up 😂 I feel so special!)
Raquel Simon not anymore it’s getting canned. Karma!
Raquel Simon she is funded by the Jews it’s because the network is owned by rich Jewish Americans
Because she probably does the nastywith the CEO let’s be honest here
T Y nope. Just her lol
T Y you’re obviously white. Lol i bet you wouldn’t have the guts to say that if we were face to face.
"It's not okay anymore to say 'I didn't know'." That's a terrifying statement...
Damn people still like this I don't think this world is ever gonna change🤭
It's constantly changing, you must be kitten me! Feel the fuckin' flow.
Give me a break! Boo hoo. Leave if you don’t like it. I texas double dog dare you to find somewhere better where people are kissing your a$$ all the time like they do here in the USA.
They need to talk about Spice's new song *"Black Hypocrisy"!*
GarageStudio IM TOO BLOCK FO U
Research studies have shown that it do be like that sometimes.
I looooove that song
That’s not white face, she’s not trying to be white just trying to be lighter than her skin tone which is still black
Yesss!! And I can’t believe that’s why she bleached her skin. She used to look so beautiful, now she look ugly. She messed herself up odee.
Damn I’m too early. The petty commenters aren’t here yet.
Selemundo same 😂😂 I’ll be back in 20 minutes
Selemundo rightttt😭
Right?! Well, I'll be back later. Lol
Swagpro17 and A Harris are usually the petty commentors I've seen. :D
😂😂😂
I never heard about "black face" until I asked my daughter yesterday and she said she learned about it in a dance class. It is amazing what public school fail to teach.
Listen how crap a parent you are , you failed your kid and blame the school .. you have a responsibility to teach your kid .. School needs to teach them algebra and economics, you suppose to teach them about society that's your job .. be quiet you are the failure
I appreciate what the ladies said. Jeannie is well spoken. I have to say though, that I love Megyn Kelly! I honestly I was NOT offended by her comments as a Black person. For sure, the disgraceful history of Blackface is appalling. What I saw on her segment was an honest person, asking a question and trying to have a conversation. That is what I want to see more of. People should be free to honestly ask and question. And obviously, she probably did not know the history. Why attack someone? She is smart, beautiful, and talented. I admire her so much. Very few people are honest and open, tell it like it is and not be politically correct. Mercy. Where is the grace? We ALL need grace. Much love and God's blessings!
Halie83 In a day and age of information and technology at our disposal, ignorance is a choice. If she didn’t know, then she better be more well informed as a reporter bc I don’t want my news from her ever.
Oh don't be ridiculous! Megyn Kelly has a Juris Doctorate degree, she knew about the racist history of blackface. Just like Trump supporters knew his parents were high ranking members of the KKK
We're just not buying the "I had no idea defense in the 21st century!"
@@rebeccapak4535 Hey I'm multicultural and my best friend is black. I'm guessing someone presented her a topic and she responded. I would have answered the same way. If people want to be flavor Flav or lady Gaga, it's all good! On the flipside, I see where your coming from but not a lot of people are going to know that. I wanted to remind you there is a lot of different kinds of people and we are not going to know that. Same thing the other way around a black person isn't going to know about Indian, Japanese, Russian. Here is the thing though everyone knows what Halloween is. What is says is legit and positive. Who goes out into the world and says oh look at that Asian person or black person. People say hey looks it's Flavor Flav. Look over there it's Carrot Top. Look it's Jay Leno. Look it Tupac.
Thank you! Megyn, said "Black or white people should be able to dress up as each other, as long as it's a character." She was not saying that the old "black-face minstrel show" was okay, just character portrayals. A white lady could love Niki Minaj, for example, and a black lady could like Kim Kardashian, and portray them on Halloween, just for fun. There's nothing racist about that, that is admiration for someone of another race!
Halie83: Yes, it was clear that Megyn didn't get it, and had no malintent. However, she has no integrity with me, as a result of her being a shill for Fox News during her years there as a Fox TV personality. Megan was complicit with Fox's agenda of wrongly and misinforming people on issues that had them vote against their own best interests, and instead voting for the interests of a wealthy corporate class. Besides, Megan just should have known. I'm an old white female elementary school teacher, and just KNEW that blackface is NEVER OK , even as a gesture of respect. The history of blackface is so saturated with dehumanization of a group of people, in a way that perpetuated a deep culture of cruel and abusive actions. How could Megyn NOT have known that?
Return of Jamal the intern. LOL
Yes Jeannie, yes. You better teach that!
AL JOLSTEIN? saying he is jewish? LOL.
Jeannie is trying so hard to act like she’s mad about this.
@@IWantToMature85 yep
She is pretty racist. I remember she said she would never marry a black man
Melina Covi those things are not a race. They are features. If the people you know said they would not go out with a white man because he is too pale blond ect. Then that’s racist, if they say they would not go out with anyone who has blond hair but they don’t mind redheads then that’s prejudiced but not racist, it’s the noun which you are referring to which make it racist or not. Btw “preference” for a race over another is literally racism. I don’t understand why people say oh it’s my preference, u are preferring a race....not a feature not a personality but a whole race.
I don't blame folks for not knowing. I only blame them for not WANTING to know. I don't think Megan Kelly should have been fired.
(I never watched her show, anyway).
I must have missed the part where she said someone’s culture was ok to be a costume... I didn’t know character and culture meant the same thing huh...
She said is not
Yeah she didnt . Just ppl changing it around to be the victim again . Nobody got mad at robert downey jr in tropic thunder but if an 8 yr old boy wants to dress up like his favorite character all of a sudden he is a slave trader
@@JGstunts22 Robert was playing a COMEDIC character . He was being racist as a joke . And in the movie the black guy called him
Out in it too. If Robert in real life dressed up and talked like that he would be a racist like u
@@Charmander009 I think you're projecting your racism, asshole. @stunts22 didn't say anything racist.
Jeannie u betta PREACH sis‼️👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
She's not dressing that way due to the culture, but because her name is Jeannie she was a Genie.
So eloquently and assertively put. This is exactly why I love and sometimes favor Jeannie.
Now I love and respect All the ladies, they are a wonderful and FULL representation of what our country looks like. Thank you ladies for addressing this issue and continuing to speak up against any kind of prejudice, discrimination, homophobia, racism, sexism, etc.
@@caushavalles7141 wow...right?!
C'Ausha Valles Jeannie has said many times that her mother named her Jeannie because of a show she used to watch called “I dream of Jeannie” and the protagonist was *wait for it* A GENIE. So she was not using a culture as a costume, she was dressed up as an actual character from a show. Bye now.
Abi F didn't she dress up like lil kim
If adrienes makeup artist doesnt match her foundation color to her neck and chest one more time i swear to God
🤣 🤣 I think Adrienne said some months ago, that she does her own make up now
katherine perrin speaking of black face
katherine perrin she does are on makeup 😂🤣
katherine perrin 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
katherine perrin
Probably can not have makeup on her neck, some people are allergic to makeup on their necks.
🗣THANK YOU JEANNIE. NO ONE’S CULTURE SHOULD BE A COSTUME
America needs more pampers
Tamera i see you with your shady comment “ you learn that by looking at your surroundings making sure your group of friends are from all around the world and not one type “ because that👏🏻 panel👏🏻 was ONLY👏🏻 white 👏🏻people 👏🏻 speaking about racial things
she even said my mom is black not I am black :)
@@maedotm5658 she did not teach herself as a kid, you learn from your parents. Thats why she was talking about her mom.
Wheres the white person in this pannel?
Nicole Watson Tamera is half white
@@nikkiboom91 The View, The Talk, heck The Today Show. There's so many to choose from! Plus we know the producers and writers are white in the background.
By the way, "White face" is not a thing
why not?
Watch White Chicks movie. Yes it is.
@@kristin4840 What he or she means is that it doesn't haven't racial implication behind it. While black face was a way for comedians to mock African Americans.
@@kristin4840 Usually white people bring that movie up and I find it interesting because I learn their not really offended by it but mention it just cause they can as if it equates to the dehumanization of black people blackface does. White chicks made fun of rich white Cali girls harmlessly. The main characters end up being friends with the girls and sing a thousand miles together. So maybe you're right, there is such a thing a whiteface. And this is as vicious as its gotten? White chicks did nothing to white women except make them laugh.
@FreedomLiberty76 Sure whatever you say. I enjoyed tropic thunder when Robert Downey Jr did blackface or when the Wayne brother did whiteface for White Chicks. The stuff was cool back then but now and days it should be left alone.
her face in thumbnail was really i needed 😂😂😂😂
The argument I keep hearing is "well what's the issue? It's just cultural appreciation" If you want to appreciate the culture why don't you learn the language? learn how to make the cuisine? learn about the history and events? talk to individuals from the culture and learn about their struggles? attend cultural celebrations? There are so many ways to appreciate a culture without dressing as them.
But dressing as them tends to be one of them.
@@alejandrogangotena9033 the point is it shouldn't be when there are so many better ways to appreciate a culture
@@heyayup but it´s so sad to not grow out of it as a society.
We would cancel a way of celebrating people because of a moment when we diminished them, we allow our failings to be bigger and stronger than our growth, that´s just so sad. If we keep reinforcing that blackface is wrong, then we will never grow out of the pain.
heyayup shut up bitch.
People can decide for themselves.
Some dont like it, some do and appreciate it.
Roland Martin broke it down.And Tamera surprisingly made one of my points that Megan is too old not to know better.And her affiliation with Fox and racist behaviors tells me she is well aware of what she was saying.There are two ways to take what Adrienne said.I was glad Loni interrupted her.
I get what Adrienne said, I mean I can see where that statement can be taken wrong but my friends and I talked about this last week. I won't ever know what it is like to be an African American, because I'm not, but I do respect their culture and their background, just as my African American and Caucasian friends won't know what it is like to be a Latino because they are not, however when we sit and try to understand other's culture we respect it and they respect you as well. Jeanie, Loni and Tamera were making good points, I mean I can see what Adrienne was trying to say but I'm glad she had a group of friends that stepped in when they did. I absolutely loved Jeanie
Megyn knew what she was doing. Her production team had that Diana Ross blackface picture prepped and ready to go. And her “apology” basically said the PC police are too sensitive. She was very intentional about what she did.
Kim Wright What did she do wrong? Because she want to paint her face another color. That makes a racist? Social media is a bully.
Chris Gonzales You May not understand what it is to be AA but many Latinos and darker skin Dominicans know what it is to be discriminated against.If you look up what black face represented you don’t need to be black to understand why that would be offensive.
Malcom Jones Look Up the history of black face in America and you should understand.But,There is a part of me that is thinking you’re being sarcastic.
No shade, BUT who is Megyn Kelly? *Tamar's voice*
Megyn Kelly an old crow on her way out the door.
The highest paid something... YOU ARE SO IGNORANT
@@awesomepuppy215 Yes. She´s well paid so she´ll be taking her money with her on her way out.
kelly is right that blackface used to be fine. then we decided it wasn't. times change. newsreaders should keep up with the times
should men wear bras and dresses in public/ that might be considered cultural appropriations or just mocking females
Blackface was never ok
@@MsNurse99 Yeah true but she's not talking about that. She's just saying if you want to be flavor flav or your favorite rapper or movie star. It's all good. People forget there are many kinds of people. Like Japanese, Chinese, Indian, Arabic, white. Nobody is going to know about blackface. I would have answered just like her. It was positive and a great answer. It goes the other way around too. A black person isn't going to know about Japanese, Indian, Afhgan, Hawaiian. Here is the thing that black people don't understand, everyone knows about Halloween. Even black people know about Halloween. People have there favorite rappers, comedian or character. That white lady is saying, you can be what ever you want to be for Halloween and it's all good. She like me, doesn't know the Google meaning black face. I just googled it and it hour ago from an article.
It was never fine
Umm blackface has never been fine... What dimension are you from. I don’t think she should have been fired, maybe just apologize. I don’t think she was deliberately trying to be hateful or condescending, she just wasn’t informed or maybe she was and didn’t care. Blackface outrage is not a new topic!
This is ridiculous! Look I'm not a fan of Megan, but she only asked a question about someone dressing up as a character on Holloween. If anything, someone that wants to dress up as Diana Ross is showing appreciation for the culture. As long as they're not doing it in a derogatory manner, I don't see what the problem is. Plus Diana Ross is a part of American culture, I don't see why people want to segregate themselves from the rest of America. We should see ourselves as Americans, not by color. If this is such a big deal then where was the uproar for the movie White Chicks? Exactly there wasn't one, and trust me that wasn't showing appreciation for a culture, it was making fun of one. But who cares, this is America! Freedom of Expression, remember. I wish the left would get off this divisive agenda that there on and realize that every citizen of America has rights, not just their like-minded leftists counterparts.
It's not offensive to dress up as a black person, the problem is with the undertones of racism that come with it. Majority of the same people who claim to not see why it's offensive are the same people who try to pretend that Donald Trump isn't a bigot, what a surprise!
IMPENDING DOOM Where is the racist undertone in this particular issue? That's my point, as I said if it's done in a derogatory manner then be upset, but even then don't strip away someone's rights. This wasn't that type of issue, but even if it was, we should never take away someones right to freedom of expression and speech. You may not agree with it, but you should agree with the ability to do so. There is nothing you can say or do, outside of calling for violence, that I wouldn't fight for your right to do so. Once either side of the aisle begins to lose their rights so begins the fade of all our rights.
Lalka Marie, I'll watch the video, but regardless it doesn't matter. If it's not calling for violence, then it's fair expression. It may be disgusting and idiotic, but we're not forced to watch it, agree with it, or even be affected by it. It doesn't matter if it hurts someone's feelings or reminds a person of bad things. That's the point, Americans have a right to freedom of expression and speech. We are free to have our opinions, free to feel the way we want to about any issue, free to criticize, and free to be the kind of person we want to be. We're not always going to have people doing things we agree with, but it does mean that people have the right to do things of which we don't agree. People have the right to dress up as white, Asian, Mexican, Native American, or any other person that they'd like to portray. What's really sad is that this type of thing happens all of the time, but if it's not someone on the left then for some reason it's always blown out context and then they want to strip away people's rights. This is a dangerous path that we're on, and I implore you to reconsider your stance on these types of issues. Would you rather have your feelings protected and lose your rights, or keep your rights and not let someone else's idiocy affect your feelings? We've made tremendous strides in our country, and things will never revert to as they were as long as we have our rights!
DaeZem The racist undertone is the fact she's from Fox News and many times made tone deaf comments in the past. And do you really want to talk about rights? People that say stuff like this are why everybody has to be defensive today, you're complaining about rights but won't utter a word about police brutality or vote suppression. You most likely will never even have the same outrage over corporate greed, gerrymandering, or housing discrimination. PC culture isn't the problem, america being retrograde decades after the civil rights movement is the problem.
IMPENDING DOOM First I was referring to the person dressing up as Diana Ross, not Megan. I'm not here to defend Megan, I don't know what her feelings are and I don't care. I deal in a world of facts, not emotions. I'm here to defend the right for someone to Say or Express themselves in any way they choose. Your comment is a perfect example of why there is such tension in today's society. The problem with PC culture is that it approaches political issues from an emotional standpoint instead of looking at the facts. You're not a mind reader, but since it made you feel emotional it's a bad thing and people shouldn't do it, BS. You're citing things that are not based in fact, you're citing leftist talking points that have no basis in truth when it comes to the actual data. You want to talk about police brutality, what about the fact that this false narrative has gotten innocent officers killed and increased tension between cops and citizens. Are there bad cops, yes, but the data shows a very small percentage. Voter suppression, what about the fact that the left has continuously allowed illegal immigrants to flood the country and allowed them to vote, which suppresses the actual citizens' vote. Corporate greed, your leftists' leaders & groups are supplied endless amounts of money from corporations. Housing discrimination, we have laws to protect against that and they are enforced. Although the left's agenda has put millions on food stamps and incentives people to stay in poverty. That's what the promotion of free does. These are the facts and these are what matter. People have to stop bringing an emotional argument to politics, there's no place for it. When you do that, you are asking for the very thing you say your fighting against, fascism. You can not take away someone's right to do something because it makes you feel a certain way, that's asking for a world that adheres to only one sides viewpoint. That's why I stand up for these rights and I always will. If you do a little research you'll see that the lefts talking points are based mostly on opinion or misconstrued data. They find an issue that pulls to your emotions and use that to fulfill their agenda. They know this is the best way to control someone, when you're emotional you are much more likely to follow an issue blindly.
love adrienne but whenever she says stuff like "clarify that because PEOPLE still don't understand" lol girl we all know its you who doesn't understand what the word means
An3hax She's like this show's DJ Envy
Loooooooooooooool
An3hax some people don’t tho they don’t always realize that the things they say are offensive even if they don’t mean it in a bad way
Lmaooo
Lolllllll
Here's the thing. There's a huge difference between what black face actually is (dehumanizing black people) and someone wanting to dress up as someone black that they admire. The purpose and the intentions behind it are completely different. Having said that, as a white person, I STILL would never make my skin darker or allow my children to make their skin darker, not because I think it's the same as black face, but based on the simple fact that it makes black people uncomfortable.
Das espensive why? blacks bleach their asses of but now they are offended cmon
I am happy that someone here appreciates the difference
@@chednifranjica193 yeah to fit in with a society that degrades them for having black skin. Either way I'm happy with my beautiful black melanin skin. At least I don't have to worry about burning blistering and peeling in the sun. I'm happy for my natural god-given sunscreen called melanin.
@@chednifranjica193 and yes I am offended about black face. Because I don't go around bleaching my skin there's nothing healthy about being white nothing. The only thing beneficial 4 having white skin is socially. Because when it comes down to health I don't want any recessive genes. So I have a right to be offended because I'm not bleaching my skin. Yuck
@@chednifranjica193 When black people lighten their skin, I see that as similar to when white people go to tanning beds or use fake tanning products. They aren't trying to be white, they just want to be a lighter shade of brown. Just like if I use a spray tan, I'm not trying to be black, I'm just wanting to be more tan. So neither of those things are the same as "blackface" or "whiteface", which I don't even think "whiteface" is a thing.
When I was a child I dressed up as a Indian (native American) because i wanted to be one.
So that would NOT be okay now??
I'm so glad i grew up in the 70'-80's.
It was tasteless then and its tasteless now. OBVIOUSLY noone would have said anything back then because America was more RACIST back then, duh lady.
i would love to commend you ladies for this great show and what it has grown into. i really feel youve found your niche and your space and have elevated the quality of the program to match that of the view and other longstanding daytime talk shows
Lmao Why Loni makin that face at 3:20-
Tamar man If she was on this season omg
She Hungry
James D.H. Thats not what she said, she said she obviously had a black mother as in comparing herself to the white reporter who wasn’t educated on black face properly and probably didn’t have someone like tamera to educate her
Lizzie Robertson yall are reading too much into it maybe loni didn’t mean anything by making that face
@@user-ox9ko6sb6r exactly!
Honestly, I thought Megyn was just telling how she grew up and forgot to censor her opinion since as a white woman reporter any opinion not compassionate or compliant will get her attacked. We are supposed to listen to each other, both sides(races) have a perspective and she must not have that much variety in friendships, but said what her childhood was like, she was being honest and not not rearranging her words to be safe or to be fake "woke." Do you want a non-black individual to pretend to agree with you or be straight up with you so that you can have a discussion with them?
Thats why she got fired .. she's white woman .. get it right.
That one on the end on this show ..she did black face ..Adrianna..she sure did but here she is not anything being said.
Exactly what I thought and I am a black woman. Nothing she said was wrong, she was just saying how she grew up geesh! I'm tired of people getting mad over someone else's opinion or people having to say sorry about every single thing. Allow people to have an opinion. I believe it's being fake when we apologize for our own experiences and say sorry. Smh so annoying
@@Aphrodite_ErosLuvChild214-80 when 😂😂
the thumbnail on this video 😂
"someone's culture is never ok to be your costume" - Ok then, no more St Paddy's day costumes. Or is that ok because the white Irish man doesn't count, or have the right to be offended? Just let that sink in.
Lol when people dress up on St. Patricks Day they're dressing up as leprechauns which are mythological beings. They're not dressing up as Irish people. Big difference! try again
@@heyayup do you know the history of St Paddy's day? Try again, moron.
@@joshm13 If you can't see the difference the moron is you baby
down with all Of these satanic pagan devil worshipping days
Touche
Thank you for calling Meghan Kelly out on her BS! Every other show just skimmed through it. We need more Jennies in this world. Thank you girls.
They should have just kept Todays Take with Al and Tamron
Amen sister
Yes
smh.. should have left well enough alone
"Someone's culture is NEVER OK to be your costume.... Ever". Sad.
So, why this issue is so fraught and confusing is that, according to this panellist, by her rules it would now mean that NO-ONE from another culture can EVER be your hero, to the extent that you want to BECOME them, through dress-up. So, really, that would mean that ALL dress-up costumes / role-playing should cease. No more little kids in Spider-man / Superman / Batman outfits; no more Elvis impersonators; no more drag-queens (appropriating being a woman!); no more Cowboys and Indians (think of the cultural shift required for little white dudes to even WANT to be the Indian now!); definitely no little African American kids (girls OR boys) dressing up as Elsa from 'Frozen' and signing 'Let It Go' at the top of their lungs; and DEFINITELY no non-black person wanting to acknowledge the power and character of ANY of the heroes of Wakanda! God forbid! Which reminds me; NO MORE NATIVITY SCENES!!! So, the question seems to be, 'How far do you go with the imitation?' Everything BUT the colour of the skin? Does a white Wakandan remain easily identifiable?
All right people? Is this a case of throwing the baby out with the bath-water? (And, maybe, why Megyn Kelly thinks Santa Clause and Jesus were WHITE! She only ever saw WHITES dressing up and playing those roles WITHOUT correctly copying skin-tone?.....)
I completely get why African-Americans feel that Al Jolsen Black-face was a demeaning stereo-typing (along with Golliwog dolls and cartoon characters); and has tonnes of negative emotional and cultural baggage. Also, why the whole Wakanda world is an all-too rare example of Black empowerment and of being cast as the central, authentic, intelligent, powerful good-guys is a rare (hopefully changing) cultural moment. Natural to want to keep that for yourself and not see it 'appropriated' by those who don't deserve it. As far as an outsider can, I think I get that impulse.
I guess all I am suggesting is that the conversation and thinking around this needs to be a little less superficial. Is it possible that someone who is NOT from 'your' culture could try to imitate the image without being flippant, demeaning, insulting or crass? I think so. If not, no more Leis or palm head-wear given out at Hawaiian or Pacific islands on arrival or at ceremonies. Here is the question. Can imitation and adoption of cultural icons encourage understanding and inclusion, as opposed to being a mere insult, as this panel member suggests. My suspicion is the answer is, 'No', at least not for a generation or two AFTER America finally comes to terms with its rampant racism (whenever that is). In the meantime, I guess we just have to accept that we have to get well past the time when American politicians can imply their black opponent is a monkey before imitation is seen as a complement, not an insult. Sad.
Mark Lapworth 👏🏻
I still say you have enough role models to emulate, jist leave ours alone. And you don't have to agree with our point of view for it to valid!!!
@@deborahfrederick916 Yes, you are right, Deb. I'm just sorry that you feel that none of your role models are good enough for me to want to emulate. I felt they were better than that. I'm sorry you don't.
the reality is that is totally okay to dress up in ethnic costumes for halloween. Nobody cares if the culture is white, that's for sure.
If you appreciate a certain culture why do you have to dress up as them and mock them? why don't you learn about their history? or their language? visit their countries? etc. Characters are very different than real people with real struggles. What the issue comes down to is essentially, why should people get to dress up as a culture for one night without experiencing any of the struggles they face when the real people deal with being from that culture everyday and face issues of discrimination and racism. Also why do a characters skin tone play such a significant role for their traits/ appearance? it seems that this only occurs when the character is non-white.
I am white and in my 40s and growing up in the 1980's as a youngster and one year I dressed up in a costume as Mr T. from the A-Team because I idolized him as a character on a Saturday morning cartoon. I wore it to school and out trick-or-treating... NO ONE pulled me aside and told me it was inappropriate or racist... you know why??? Because IT IS NOT RACIST... its dressing up as a character just like Spiderman and the Incredible Hulk. Get off your woke high horse and treat these things for what they are... geezus!!!
I’m black and I agree with you 100%
Loni’s face in the thumbnail 😂
Love this show. Sad thing is American history is not taught correctly. I barely learned about blackface in my Master's program.
Because that's not an important issue, be real.
I bet you didn't learn about Arabian slave trade either, where they enslaved 3x more black people than the whites did.
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"Someones culture is never ok to be your costume." I disagree and i think eventually people would understand the difference between cultural appropriation and appreciation.
How is Blackface appreciation? Mocking people and pretending to be them is not okay.
I dressed in a Mexican Costume ~ Indian ~ had No problem~ SO what that is what Halloween is about you dress with what you like to be...
@Donnie Brasco Why is Diana Ross's skin color so important to who she is as a character? If you can't look like Diana Ross without changing your skin tone then it's a bad costume. People only change their skin color when they play dark skinned people. No one ever changes their skin color when pretending to be snow white or marilyn monroe.
@@gingerderrick7423
I can tell you dressing as a Mexican or "Indian" is a problem.
@Al Person EXACTLY!
I'm not saying blackface/whiteface can't be racist and offensive becasue they so can be. But I've stated it on almost all my comments and I'll state it here: as a black man I was NOT offended by Megyn's remarks on the subjects.
Cytron1515 me neither and I’m a black man
Cytron1515 Agree with you! these women on this panel and extremely sensitive. People shouldn't listen to them, so problematic. I don't get why we can't call the Asian girl oriental. I'm Latin and people call me Latin. What's the difference?
Agree. I'd also add, these women are way too sensitive! They said they think we should all have a group of friends who is diverse but where is the whole girl on this panel?
The Asian lady irritated me to the core. So beautiful talented and successful but seems to have a chip on the shoulder. And why can't people call her oriental,I didn't get that one. I'm Latin, people call me Latin.
JUST this past year has been painful for Black people?? Kelly is so damn out of touch smh 🤦🏾♀️
hfb try the last 300 years??!!
Kamal Morales exactly!
Right! How about every year we’ve existed
being a victim is always sooooo hard
Yes its been painful, every week 70+ blacks shoot each other in Chicago. Thats more painful than a black face comment
I’m sick of Loni constantly cutting Adrienne off !! That’s rude!
What I can’t get with is when Loni makes faces when one of the ladies are getting their point across lol
They all cut each other off constantly
@Saucyking is right. If Loni wasn't there, munchkin would have a Megan Kelly situation of her own to deal with.
Jeanie gave Adrienne a look, when Adrienne ask to explain @1:20
Not only that she always cutt her eyes when Tamera talk 🤷🤷 may be something going on with them two
1:20 I'm confused, why is being called oriental bad? I didn't know it was offensive?
Remember when the golden boy of ABC, Jimmy Kimmel, did an incredibly over the top racist skit of Karl Malone while in Black face and the outrage was everywhere? Yea, neither do I. If you are over emotional by the comments made Kelly, you should probably be spitting nails that Jimmy Kimmel still has his job, no?
I love u for your raw honesty
I believe comedians get a pass, look at the wayans when they did white chicks. Comedians talk about race all the time no one gets offended
@@ronnie6696 comedians of certain political views. Didn't Roseanne get completely destroyed for her tweet? Is she not a comedian?
@@josephjohnroe3678 okay and foremost, Roseanne tweets were racist! She was not tweeting to be funny. She talked about Trayvon martin who died and Jews. You can tell when someone is being racist. I don’t think Meg was being racist, she was being ignorant knowing the history with black face. I was Cinderella at age 5 and didn’t think for one second about changing my gorgeous brown skin into white skin. I just simply said, I am the black Cinderella. You can’t compare jimmy kimmel to Meg because he is a comedian and he was trying to be funny, Roseanne was actually being racist and Meg was just being ignorant. I don’t think she should have lost her job but if the network felt the need to fire her then take it up with the white people behind the network. I don’t agree with what she said but I do not think she should have gotten fired. Now Roseanne was a great call
So we can't be knights or ninjas because they aren't our culture? Get tf out of here
No one is saying that. If you want to be a ninja get a shozoku and be a ninja. Do not put tape on the corner of your eyes to "look more the part." If you want to be a knight, get chainmail and be a knight. Do not paint your face a lighter shade.
@@MitchYouCantScratch Jeannie said "someone's culture is never your costume". Obviously stereotyping an ethnicity is wrong. I see nothing wrong with celebrating another culture in our multicultural society
@Abby Lena Did you read what I wrote? Obviously dressing as another ethnicity is offensive. I don't see anything wrong with dressing as another culture.
@Abby LenaSo are knights or ninjas or cowboys acceptable? No mythological creatures because they are all from someones culture. No dead people because that might offend people. Lets just end Halloween
@Abby Lena I think we shouldn't ruin Halloween for the many because everyone gets offended at something. Just deal with it
Im amazed that people arent spontaneously combusting left and right from being so damn triggered 25/8. I just cant even imagine how exhausting it must be to even leave the house for yall.
OMG! All she said was when she was a kid, it was considered okay to dress in blackface. It shows the changing of the times. People need to focus on REAL issues.
I don't think people understand what Megyn Kelly was saying. She wasn't referring to historical Blackface. She was referring to wearing makeup to look like a character on Halloween. The two are not the same. She asked "what is racist" and spoke about Black people and White people painting their faces. She put them on the same level. She wasn't referring to historical Blackface where Black and White people would paint their faces with burnt cork, greasepaint or shoe polish, wear wooly matted wigs, white or red exaggerated lips, etc, and portray Black people in negative stereotypes. Blackface was not only about makeup, but also about portraying Black people with negative stereotypes, from their language, dances, clothes, education, etc. Historical Blackface, which is actual Blackface, is NOT what Megyn Kelly was talking about.
You don’t wear someone’s race as a costume point blank period!
I still believe that Jeannie should rather look upon herself and her own actions since she commented that she prefers “dark meat” on the side, while “white meat” keeps her mean and lean. The hypocrisy. I’m so sick of people defending culturally inappropriate comments but at the same time are the ones doing it. Don’t get me wrong, I believe in the power on forgiveness, I just hate it when people make use of my ability to forgive.
It's a very tricky time to be a talk show host these days. Especially one that isn't of colour! My advice is they should surround themselves with people of colour so they can understand what is going on in the world today, otherwise they are toast!
"Someone's culture is not your costume.. ever"
.... but she loves Bridgerton.
They're just jealous of our beautiful skin. Whenever someone does something like that, it comes from a place of low self esteem and envy.
I understand why not Blackface. But idk why some people get offended by costumes. Esp about culture ... I don't celebrate Halloween (cause it's Satan's day and all) but if people want to dress up as a Mexican like with the Sombrero and mustache.. I don't feel offended by that. Esp cause Mexicans don't dress like that. that to me says I like your culture. If we're gonna get offended by things like that then let's call out non-Mexicans that enjoy tacos or tamales as well.
Sorry sis, educate yourself on the history of black face.
Beatriz Rodriguez Would you be offended if I dressed up as a Mexican in handcuffs and a sombrero trying to cross the border? See how easily that can cross a line. Don’t speak on what you haven’t experienced.
Beatriz Rodriguez here we go Mexican start to complain.
Another Mexican trying to fit in with whitey... they just don't get it... You better watch CNN from time to time so you can see what they really think about you...
Renaissance Man I watch fox.
I am in no- way saying black-face is by any means okay. However, I do have a question. Many girls look up to different Disney princesses/characters that are of a different race to them (i.e Mulan, Princess Tiana, Moana, etc.). What happens if a girl who is of a different race want to dress up as one of them? Would there be an issue with that. Obviously if it was my child I would not paint their face or body black, but I feel like dressing up as them could also become offensive. Please explain. I am not in anyway trying to argue, just curious.
There is no problem with wearing the costume of the characters. The issue is the historical significance of "the black face" and how it was used to mock african americans.
I’m very young and I’ve lived my whole life in a small country. I’ve never seen anyone disrespect a race by dressing up as one of them. Before I saw this I really thought it was okay for a white person to paint their face and body brown. The same goes for brown skin painted white.
Is this not okay just because of the history behind portraying a different race?
Do you think that if no one ever used ”blackface” or ”whiteface” to mock one another it would be okay to cosplay characters of other races (including skin color )
I’m not american so this is the first time I’m hearing about this.
As Loni said "you can be Diana Ross, but just be a white Diana Ross!" Let your kids dress as whatever they want but do not change their core characteristics like race. Kids usually want to be Moana because of strength and character. Teach them that they be all those things and still be themselves. They can adore a character and adopt the good traits but they don't have to look exactly like them. That lesson will take them far in life
And thank you for asking❣️
Jenna Mäkinen exactly. It is not okay because of the historical significance! In an alternate universe where blacks weren’t made into caricatures to be mocked maybe it would be okay to make the black face.
I would like to see more substantive discussions on the Real Daytime such as this one, promoting positive political and social-economic change and encouraging others to be actively engaged (e.g., get out and vote in the mid-terms).
Why was this video so short??
Can someone please explain what “White face” is. Megyn said people did White face; when, Megyn?
China MA Midnight -I’ll look it up. White Americans have also not been enslaved by Black Americans so that’s why White face is not a thing. It’s not something that blacks have historically used to traumatize Whites. Nick Canon is one person. Black face was used to ridicule and traumatize Blacks and was a form of entertainment.
White Chicks, Coming to America, The Nutty Professor, Watermelon Man, SNL (Eddie Murphy as the undercover White man) Chappelle Show (Chuck Taylor.) Etc..
Sean Maher ALL COMEDIANS!! Megan is NOT a comedian! And once again white face was started by WHITE MEN when they were portraying WHITE WOMEN during plays because white women weren’t allowed to be in entertainment. So, again! Historically white face was never used to demean or diminish the humanity of white ppl in general like black face!
Wasn't Al Jolson a comedian of his era?@@laurencameron3150
@Brandy Byas, I'm not defending the practice, I'm arguing against the notion that being a comedian somehow makes blackface okay.
Yesss, Jeannie is always so well informed, preach girl
I bet the rest of that $69M that Megyn knows what blackface is now!!🧐😡🤣
Kurt Kinde - 👍Agreed.
John barfneck - 😔True
DRESSING AS A CHARACTER. Not making fun of the Character.
I think if you’re doing fictional characters like the mad hatter it is okay to paint your skin to appear lighter, white, and pale. The mad hatter is pale white. I think people need to understand the difference between what is offensive and not or what is cultural appropriation and not. If you’re gonna be a black panther character I would say you can wear the costume but there is no need to paint your skin black. There are obvious do’s or don’ts. Maui from Moana, I think there is no problem to wear the tattoos that Maui has but I think it’s unnecessary to paint your skin brown. I also think that people need to give everyone a break.
I really love how diverse this cast is! They all bring great opinions to topics like this!
The “blackface” controversy popped up almost exactly 2 years ago on RUclips with several white RUclipsrs appearing in blackface and there was a serious uprising especially in the Vegan community. Reg Flowers, a wonderful well spoken RUclipsr posted a couple of videos on the matter. Several words were slung all over RUclips and some videos were removed. It’s sad that in 2018 this racist mess is still prevalent in the USA and throughout the world!
💡🙏Do your own research on blackface. Blackface is alive and well in other parts of the world as well!
The Dutch still do blackface and have a beloved character Black Pete! With their Christmas tradition. Maybe perhaps THIS YEAR 2018 they might consider not doing blackface with Black Pete. Blackface needs to be stopped around the globe or flat earth...what ever you believe. 🧐
+ Scotty Logan - I am 👍
+ Donnie Brasco - You’re funny 🤣
during the olympics in china some Spanish athletes got into trouble for "stretching" their eyes to look asian.. some say that was offensive. if you are sensitive to how your face looks then you might be offended or surely need to reexamine your own sense of self worth if you become embarrassed about your race or features?
Do you know tge real full history of black pete the dutch tradition?? Or do you only know what your friends have told you??
+ k - 🤨Do you? I absolutely do know the real story about Zwarte Piet, Black Pete. No one told me anything. I’m an educated person and I educate myself on things I do not know or understand. I travel the world. I was there, I saw it with my own eyes and I researched it.
They try to make it about a fantastical clownish figure rather than a black person, however, IT IS blackface. People got away with a lot of things all of those years ago when the story and tradition began. For many years the people they were offending with blackface had no rights and could not speak up or out without fear of losing their life. Times have changed and the people who are offended ARE SPEAKING UP AND OUT against it. It’s offensive. Know better, do better. ✌️
In the movie breakfast at tiffanys, there is a white actor who plays an asian character Mr Yunioshi and they exaggerated his small eyes and yellow toned skin and his mannerism, so offensive
I made a statement similar to Jeannie's on my facebook about this, wow lol.. but I gotta question....How did people REALLY feel when the wayan brothers did White Chicks #SipsTea just saying, many people thought that movie was funny..I didn't and I hated that film because sure enough if two white men did that by depicting two black chicks would be a uproar. Bottom line NO race should be mocked smh its sickening.
Whiteface is not a form of oppression boo. If you watch the movie, their "whiteness" allowed them access to power.
Uh two different instances that are nothing alike. Trying to sound intelligent, yet far from
guys im from Scotland and there was so many people in blackface for this past Halloween, people still don’t know.
We need to talk about this more!
I had to think of Dave Chappelle and his blackface joke with the Indians 😂😂
This lineup of already beautiful ladies will definitely be complete if they added a true Native American to their panel. I think that would be so wonderful!! 100% Native American...i.e.both parents are Native Americans.
hush up megyn. we dont have time
4:00 “Unless you’ve actually been through the struggle, you’re never really gonna understand.” True. I often find that most of the people who are wondering why this is such a big deal are the people who aren’t really affected by this.
Hey guys I’m from Sweden. Just wanted to ask what’s this all about: ”Painful for many people of color”
What’s going on in Usa?
What? What did she did wrong?
I want to dress up as a Japanese person for haloween! Is that wrong? Im half asian not japanese
Its American history you'll have to look it up
You're half Asian and Japanese people are Asian too. So I don't think it's wrong for you to dress up like that. The problem here is that it can be offensive when a person changes their skin color or other facial features to look like another race for a costume.
Do you want to be a Japanese character or is your costume a Japanese person?
I don't think she was trying to be malicious. She grew up white so her upbringing was very different. That being said she should do more research on a subject next time because comments like she made can hurt people. I'm glad she apologized
Is it only in America where the word Oriental is considered offensive, in Britain it is still used regularly.
Tamara hit the nail on the head. The issue is some people don't want to know others that look different from them and don't want to understand others
That woman’s face in the back
I know right. She was like did I just hear that😂😂😂😂
Loni's face when Tam is talking. I feel the same way Loni.
I'm so proud of the cast on this show. Although. I'm more into the "View," l so appreciate the the younger generation educating those that need it. Thank you Ladies!
You know it's interesting, I've watched this show several times and enjoyed it, and never really noticed there's not one white person on here. 🤔 You shouldn't expect people to feel the way you do, they haven't experienced or felt the way you have. I've had lots of friends who have no idea what it feels like to be me. I don't get upset or offended by them because their experience is nothing like mine. It's sad that in this time everyone is offended by everything now. I do agree that black face is an ugly thing but don't expect other people to understand how you feel all the time.
thats why you get educated not be a dumbass all your life! If u not sure ask questions. What black went through you will never understand until you are them. Respect other cultures just as you want your culture to be respected. It is fuckn common sense, for white person to color their face black to mock a black person. get educated!
@@bishopmaster1706 shut with this bs. U r so fucking ignorant. U even fail to realize that your opinion is not objective. Heck the entire Netherlands disagree with american keyboard social justice warriors trying to influence their culture. Don't tell me that Netherlands is backward and uneducated. It's one if the best countries out there and u people connect wholesome traditions woth racism. Feelings, offended, triggered appropriation, political correctness wtf.
Okay someone correct me please, what i understood was that its okay to dress as a black or white person IF it's a character ... Whats wrong with that? So black people can only be black characters and white white characters.i understand the issue behind the original context of blackface, but what if i wanna be Madonna or hanna montana for halloween lol ? I cant be a person of an opposite race
YoungWifeLife well they did agree that you can dress up as a person of a different race but don’t try to make your skin tone match theirs. I honestly wouldn’t care if a white person wanted to make their skin tone match a black person they admire. Sure they would look a little silly but to me it’s okay as long as they aren’t doing it with the intent to be racist.
YoungWifeLife don’t be dumb , be a black character don’t paint your face black simple ah
Am I the only black person that isn’t offended? I understand the blackface history but I don’t understand why people are offended when a person dresses up as the person they admire. Yeah I think a white person looks silly if they try to make their skin tone match the person they like but I don’t see the harm if they are not doing it with the same intent as those in the past did.
You think that way because you're not damaged
Trent King I’m not damaged? Can you elaborate a little more on that?
@@lumix355
Security stability and intelligence are the best defenses from being easily triggered and offended by trivial situations
Trent King nope not really u can be educated black have nice cars live in a nice neighborhood and at the end if the day someone could still be racist toward you you can still be pulled over by a prejudice cop education is power but at the end of the day some ppl in society will still look down u based off of skin color period no amount of money or riches can shield you from that...
@@trent_king 🙄
Lol I’m asian and I don’t get offended when someone says oriental 🤣🤣🤣
*Al Jolson - Blackface - research 🧐
I’m from Australia and have not seen this racism Lonis talking about, I may just not be seeing it though! All my friends; white and black are all so educated on this stuff and HATE racism. Three years of our high school history classes were dedicated to things like Australia’s lost generation, the civil rights movement etc. The portion of people I know from Australia DO NOT tolerate racism. But hey, I’m just one person in one small city. I may not be seeing the bad stuff that goes on
She probably should not have made it a general statement about Australia, but I think she was referring to the Australian artist who drew a cartoon of Serena after the grand slam incident, you could Google it, I think it was that incident she was referring to, but it sounded like a general statement but I don't think she meant it that way
Lisa Kinsale oh I see! Thanks for the clarification ☺️
@@emma_anders no problem 😊😊😊
Where do u all hide the aborigines. ..?
An entire race of people were killed off in Australia and America.
Jamal the intern 😂😂
Tonia Robinson ik😂😂😂I died laughing at that idk in my mind Jamal threw his hand out like oh know she didn't giving her the side eye like hmmm
I love all of them, Jeannie makes great point. South Asian Love
For some reason before black face was used to insult black people but now it’s a trend to make yourself darker as a white person cause it looks cool. Throwing out and recycling our culture is being full of it.
And who can stop someone 4 doing black face?? Ppl gonna do what they want
Amen Sister, you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink.
I agree 100% with Tamera and Adrienne.
These clips last more than 1 minute now? Crazy.
And instead of trying to educate a person you all gang up and attack them. You all need to grow up.