The Truth About Bulletproof Helmets - Colion Noir Podcast #19
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- Опубликовано: 27 май 2024
- Devtac Ronin Ballistic Helmet
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In this episode of the NOIR Podcast, I speak with the creator of the DEVTAC Ronin Helmet, which is a full ballistic helmet facemask that looks like it came from the year 2093.
We talk about the history of bullet proof helmets where the future of bullet proof helmets is going.
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I personally witnessed the Advanced Combat Helmet, stop 7.62 rounds cold. No less than three soldiers in one ambush were shot, and on my platoon Sergeant his helmet stopped two 7.62 rounds! All three walked away from their head shots. I bandaged my commander’s other wounds and didn’t realize at first he had been struck in the helmet!
I imagine it still rang his bell?
Yep, ACH Helmets are built tough, you can pick them up in good condition for only around $400 and modernize them to be super comfortable and versatile. Use one with my PVS-7, works like a charm.
But isn't 7.62x39 a weaker cartridge? The ballistic data suggests that 5.56NATO and 7.62NATO both outperform the Russian stuff.
@@Minuteman4Jesus its still impressive, and probably what we would worry about facing the most
@@warrenharrison9490 the MP was on a MK-19 an ricocheted off the armor plate in front of his gun. Knocked him out for about a minute. The driver and TC thought for sure he was dead, and then he jumped back up and started firing. My commander was shot through both knees and in his arm as well… he wasn’t even bleeding for the Knick on his head. My Platoon Sergeant also took three rounds to his chest plate. The third round hit the top of the plate and ricocheted into his jaw. He had already also take. Shrapnel to his throat and refused to medivac… he jumped off the medivac truck to stay in the fight
Seems like full head coverage would be most practical for vehicle gunners. You don't have to worry about a cheek weld, when your working a mounted gun.
I know a soldier in Iraq who had an AK round hit his helmet, it went through the first side deflecting and skimmed along the inside of the helmet and out the back neckline. it knocked him down and he got up and kept running. He took three more rounds to his body armor before he got out of the open. Other than being beat up and scraped he had no injuries and was back on duty a week later.
We called him PFC Lucky after that.
Damn, I couldn't even imagine the flashing pain of getting hit by a rifle round in the head. That seems like instant cte.
Sure u did lol sounds about fake
@@justfacts6164 there are variations or similar stories of bullets going past helmet layers but curving around the actual skull.
Helmets have over half an inch gap from skull by design, so there is space.
@@Soravia back on duty a week later after being shot in head and chest with ak haha
@@justfacts6164 lol guys habe taken rounds to the head w/o a helmet and still lived....humans are hard to kill
Never imagined when I first saw Star Wars in 1977 that we would have real Storm Trooper helmets and not just toys. Way cool 😎
First thought was it looks like a mandalorian helmet (in a good way) :)
Look up OpsCore.
Ayyyyyyy stay strapped!
Like lieutenant Michael Byrd 💪😎🇺🇲
Do or die mentality, it is a must!!
Where can I get into on this helmet?
The US Army assumes a 25% casualty rate every time we conduct CQB. That’s one man out of every 4 man fire team.
This could be great for mitigating some of that risk.
Whoa
We have 4 man fire teams? What unit did you serve in? Lol
@@SGBass I haven’t been in since 2014, but I’ve never heard of an infantry fire team having anything but four unless they’re understaffed.
I imagine it's either, the round pierces the helmet and then instant death or you walk away with the most unpleasant migraine you've ever had (plus possible skull fractures and hemorrhaging) from the sheer impact of the round hitting the helmet.
friend of mine took a round with a bastion on besides a headache he was fine
@@ganjatheninja that's good to know. Did he have any issues long term-wise?
Demolition ranch channel here on RUclips got one of these helmets and he shot it and it withstood the test. So it’s safe to say that this works.
@@AntaresTwo6 nope he has been fine this happened about 2 years ago when we were arguing over helmets in tarkov IRL the only 2 helmets in tarkov that can outright STOP a rifle round are the wendy and the bastion
@@vicdiaz5180 Yeah, but he didn’t do the ultimate test, taking a hit while wearing it, at least not on RUclips that I saw.
This day and age everything should be modular and somebody finally making a helmet to be one is just spot-on 😁👍
Good ideas. This guy is using modularity to the max. Everything is a trade off but he's providing the end user trade off options. Mission configurability.
There's a lot of mechanics that goes into the science of prevention of injury to the head from gunfire. Stopping the bullet is probably the easiest part, making it wearable is a big problem. The biggest problem is what happens to the head and brain after impact, how do you disperse the energy. For pistol rounds, there is a lot less energy in a pistol round compared to rifle rounds. If the helmet stops a pistol round, you're looking at whiplash and concussion at worst, at best you're ready to continue the fight like nothing happened. With rifle rounds, concussions and whiplash are likely to be the best case scenario if it's stopped, at worst you're looking at a TBI or outright death from cerebral hemorrhaging. Best way to stop the energy after stopping the bullet is more inertia, or in other words more weight. Which makes it harder to wear for longer periods, but also lessons the likelyhood that you'll have your head rattled by a bullet's impact. Heavier also means that you can use stronger materials, and therefore stop larger caliber gunfire.
There's a fine balance to make here, which it seems like he's reached, for now, a good balance. But I'd love to see him expand his repertoire and figure out the fine line between strength, weight, and the risks of neck injury and TBI.
God I'm a fucking nerd. XD
Posted before he explained that the plates have isolated "suspensions" from each other. Grade A genius, I would have never thought of that.
Thank you colion for the awesome gun videos
Colion says thank you for the hundreds of thousands of dollars he's being paid by RUclips...
~roughly @13:00, He speaks of a very important and valid point that blunt force trauma to the face would be incapacitating. Deflection surfaces built into the composite layers are critical though. I'd rather take a hit to the face that knocks me out than shreds face areas and bone through it's deflection process. Shrapnel and debris are the most important focus of a helmet and facemask with bullet force mitigation being a perk.
Buys helmet…..
Immediately looks at mirror and says “You think darkness is your ally?”
Tons of respect to devtac for taking an airsoft problem and converting it to solve or address a real world problem and being realistic about the use cases. How many companies and tacticool makers will limit what they think is the best use for their product.
This! I LOVE how he knows the weaknesses. Its not a magic wand but it has its applications
It really is a very cool full head helmet. It would definitely be useful to stop shrapnel to the face, that is for sure.
@@Michael-ex8lk it would make for good shock and awe breacher “juggernaut” for effect. You see that coming through a door all armored up and it might make you rethink your options.
When I worked at a police supply store, we were instructed to refer to the vests as body armor, and never bulletproof vests. 😉
Make more since. Which did you go by for a silencer or suppressor
oh thats cool, we Marines just called it a plate carrier.
@@SubOptimal_ That's because they are two different things. OP likely was talking about Lvl II armor, not the Lvl III or IV you guys wore.
One thing I learned from playing paintball is whenever I got shot...it was usually in the face or head...if you behind cover firing its about the only target presented a ballistic helmet will save your life
Don't you love getting shot in the mouth part of the helmet?
I don't.
True that. My head, face and hopper where like paint magnets 🧲 🙃
I remember a time i got shot in the head playing paintball. Oddly enough, i got hit on the top of my head... the only part NOT protected. My dad thought he was hilarious until i shot him in the thumb the next round 😅😂
I got hit by a black bird on my motorcycle helmet, at 65 MPH. That really hurt and almost stripped me off my bike. I can't imagine taking a high powered rifle round to a helmet.
That bird had considerably more momentum than a pistol bullet. Advantage of a bullet is penetration.
@@finngamesknudson1457 finally another person just as concerned about the laws of Momentum as everyone else is about kinetic energy. Respect, fellow engineer.
My uncle had a turkey hit him while he was riding and it did take him off his bike. Then after that and a new Harley he left the bike ship and while his ride back home his back tire locked up and well shirt story he never ride one again
I don't know why the race of the bird matters but I'm glad you're alright....
@@alastor8091 it's a species not a race which is strictly to humans only
The impact is focused on a section witch absorbs impacts and breaks away preventing impacts to entire helmet.
For room clearing... most rooms you can clear visually before ever stepping in all but 1 corner usually. Biggest issue is dead space such as furniture you cannot see behind or under until in the room. I am retired for just two years but still work with active duty fellow GBs. We still use the same tactics that were used when I was in, good to hear they are not common knowledge.
They are common knowledge with Antifa, Proud Boys, ex military, ex cops, T rex Arms etc. Your knowledge is no longer special
yep, that 20% you cannot see without entering the frame. A tactical mirror can be of great assistance, or your thermal vision. if available
Flashbang 😉
*good to hear they are not common knowledge* okay redcoat
@@TheInfantry98 I highly doubt it. ex cops and antifa... that's a good laugh. Regular infantry are better trained than probably 95% of law enforcement out there to include SWAT teams. The rest of the military does not train the same way we do, I know this as I was Infantry 6 years first and have trained many regular Army Soldiers in my career.
I think the aim of ballistics helmet isn’t the same as a armor plate, the difference the plate Absorbs the energy and stops the projectile versus a helmet deflecting the projectile which a lot of successful helmet deflections have been caught on film and the soldier typically is more shocked than injured.
with how angled this one is I'd imagine it's pretty great at that
I just like this dude. It’s hard to not DR those chill vibes.
I think I like ur podcast format videos the best
We had a deputy shot in the face last week in Augusta GA. He underwent more surgery yesterday. He's got a long way to go! I can only imagine how much suffering this could have saved him.
I worked at one time for Gentex One of the largest ballistic resistant military helmet producers they had a good product but I really like this one. I was a tool design engineer I built the tooling to manufacture the helmets.
Very Different and informative about ballistic helmets
Great information on the helmet
Bullet proof everything!
Only reason I don't drive and wear armor everywhere; price point.
Barely was in open turrets during '06 oif, if a couple people I know had full face armor, they'd be able to grow facial hair.
But tech wasn't developed then. So I get it.
Good content Colion!
When I was in the Marine Corps in the late 1980's, when we went in the field & a in an active war zone. We always throw out our Kevlar helmets & flack jackets since neither they would not stop any rifle bullets.
that's one of the scariest helmets to see in tarkov in my opinion
Years of helmet wear and, injuries. My neck is fused from c3-7. As well as 3 TBI's. Maybe this helmet would be the way to go👍
Innovation saving lives. Thank you, Sir.
When you test the helmet out, please use an accelerometer so we can see what the impact is like to the head 🙏
That Is Awesome as Hell ! ! Props , That Man Needs Some Kind of Award. 🤔 So Many Valid points.
Good Vid 👍👍
He R&Ds his own helmet from an air soft product as a base. That’s impressive.
Wesley is a great dude. I love my DEVTAC helmet.
I liked the helmet when I first saw it years ago. Implementing an air supplied purification and headphone system would be awesome.
3:16 - What guns strongest helmets will stop? .44 magnum, .357 sig
12:45 - most customers r SWAT, lots of civilians.
25:28 - causes neck fatigue wearing these helmets for yrs.
This is an amazing helmet...have you considered using reactive armor plating the way the M1-Abrams does to increase the ballistic protection? Another thing you might consider is providing a wire frame cage the way the MRAPS has on it to provide fragmentation penetration protection...
This type of customization and ease of replacement is exactly what the helmet market needed in the gun/armor world. I'm hoping there can be even greater levels of customization as well. Yes, I'd love there to be cosplay level of customizing, but its because we do weird stuff like that, it helps push the limits of the appearance and tactical nature of the armor.
That’s next level stuff
Awesome video!
I personally had the same feelings about this helmet when I first saw it that you did.
As I'm sure everyone did.
I first heard someone review it I think lastnight. I can't remember the name of the channel. It was a RUclips short from Jimbojoni or some strange name like that.
I'm glad to get more info on this.
Although I have fired many types of guns since I was a little boy I am just now looking to buy my first and affording one right now has been as big a challenge as figuring out which one to get.
So I doubt I would be able to afford this bad boy til I get my company higher off the ground.
Freelance drafting services in all major disciplines (structural, architectural, elec, mech, civil and solar with experience in steel detailing) for 20 years.
Lol gotta lift that bird up and I would love to work with more patriots
Figure out a way to incorporate thermal imaging using a small display screen. Breaching a location then isn't left to chance and you'll know where the threats are.
Thermal eats up a bit more battery than night vision, if you wanted to make it a built in thermal imaging display you could only run it for a couple hours before the battery died. Plus for urban combat, night vision is more useful anyways.
I’d say it would be beneficial in some situations for added safety but mainly to deflect bullets, solid hits will still cause issues, if it saves your life it’s worth it but some internal injuries may be worse.
The armor panels are designed to break away so the energy doesnt transfer across your whole head
Breach by FLAMETHROWER... Curved barrel Mod for corners. 😉
love it but will listen at work when im trucking
Based
went to the range yesterday with around 500rds of surplus{and a few boxes of new ammo} we found 3 steel cores from my 7.62x39 surplus ammo. gotta be a ton more in that berm. now im keeping the rest of the surplus as emergency ammo lol.
I got a quote (all the features) on one in 2019 it was 2.5-3k… since 80% of civilian/police helmets are theater more than ballistic protection I went with HardHatVeterans. Spent the money on more important things like training and reliable guns. 👍 DevTac is still on my wish list though 😊.
Brother, HHV is a no-go. They rebrand chinesium helmets and upcharge like crazy. Life saving equipment isn't something to skimp on. Go with gentex or highcom, both have been in the armor game since early GWOT.
@@ShibbyMcCleud Chinese made won't save your life.
Great interview. Looks like Devtac makes Great helmets. Thank you
Jocko Willink said wear your armor.
I'm following that guy lmao
Thank you
now what would be cool would be to have one of those ballistic helmets with built in full functional gas mask added in. basically everything built into one helmet.. but I had seen somewhere on RUclips where they took a ballistic helmet and added LED HUD with rangefinder and compass it was bad ass.. I do not remember what the channel was but if I can find it I will add the link
I’m not sure the next pain from NVGs comes from balancing the helmet, but instead it’s just the weight itself. They make counterbalances for NVGs. Your neck is going to hurt from the weight regardless. Get a bigger neck I guess.
That helmet was made for doomguy.
I wonder are there any exercises that make your neck stronger
Shrugs. The point isn't strength to life something heavy. The point is being able to carry small weight for long periods.
Keeping your neck bent forward all day will work your traps like wearing a helmet and it will make your neck hurt bad even just with the weight of your skull
@@bobjohnson1633 Brother. Your neck will be able to take/handle weight better if it’s built like a tree log over a twig. It will start to ache regardless eventually tho.
Would it be possible to make a medieval jousting style wrapper plate / bevor specifically for breaching to protect the face that can be discarded later. Or would the sharp angles at the neck and face redirect the bullet in an unsafe direction?
Mr Noir we are very lucky to have you. Out of every video i ever saw from you only one video i didn't agree with i seen alot of your videos. You are a hero to all patriots of this country brother. God bless you from the son of the most high.
I wouldn't call him a hero until he actually stops The Tyranny happening in America... instead of talking about it and making money off of it 😬
man what a cool helmet i kinda want one
currently priced at $3400, good luck. it was at $2999 back in july and hiked the price.
Did I zone out when they were talking about whether you can see out of the thing?
Airsofting at a young age really does give you an edge in what gear you should use. I spent hours using different plate carriers helmets and holsters and I find the least amount of shit on my body is the best. Handguns no rifles point and shoot, no time in cqb for sight pictures.
I need one of these!
I’ve wanted one since it first came out sssoooooo sick
Needs a link to a supplier lol
Very cool helmet
Awesome... wonder if the Space Force guys gonna get fitted for theirs soon?? Kewell
Space force isn't a fighting force. I would hate to be the first guy to get into a gun fight in a space ship and die because ANYBODY missed and blew out the hull.
Those fans look like the same ones used to cool down ESC’s on Remote control cars, they run on 9V batteries as well.
thanks from Scotland and Russia!!
Putting one of those liquid coolers, like what race car drivers wear under their suits to keep cool, would be nice if someone decided to use it in a hot climate.
Race drivers have a cooler of ice water and electric pumps. Neither seem practical.
If you're carrying around a multi pound pump, the water also has to be cooled.
How much would the helmets cost if you used Beskar Metal? How about Rearden Metal?
WESLEY! hopefully one day soon we can afford to carry your helmets in our store. those things are easily most iconic piece of our time i think. up there with things like the mp5 and scar. people just know what they are from across the room.
Master Chief helmet,,, interesting!
Im gonna buy one next year!!
I have a question. Do they have one for people that have glasses to see
I was told by an old sergeant that there's no use in getting level 4 helmet. He said that even if the helmet could stop a rifle round, the sheer kinetic force would snap your spine in half killing you instantly.
I was told by an Army Air Assault veteran in college that the sheer kinetic impact on the shoulder from a high-caliber round would snap your neck.
I know a soldier in Iraq who had an AK round hit his helmet, it went through the first side deflecting and skimmed along the inside of the helmet and out the back neckline. it knocked him down and he got up and kept running. He took three more rounds to his body armor before he got out of the open. Other than being beat up and scraped he had no injuries and was back on duty a week later.
We called him PFC Lucky after that.
Well you guys believe those stories… from random people. But the military doesn’t issue kevlar helmets because they don’t work…
@@TheGmanway it's almost as if soldiers never wore helmets since the bronze age... Oh wait, they did.
Find a block of wood that weighs about as much as your head. Fire the round of your choice into it. That's how hard it moves your head. Decide whether that will snap your neck.
If a bullet pierces the helmet it usually skims around in-between the Kevlar and outer Helmut material
Level III to stop the 556 is good enough! I’ll take 2, please
One of OPD responding to pulse night club shooting was wearing a PASGT direct blow to front of helmet he lived had huggge welt
I would like to see him make one like this that can be D.O.T. approved for motorcycle riding and ballistic protection
I am surprised that no one had referenced these combat helmets to Fallout series.
Old one like sticking your head in a bell
Getting your bell ring!!
The only bullet-proof helmet I've ever heard of is a tank, a nice big one.
😂😂👍👍👍
Depends on how big the round is...
The good news is, if it does penetrate, you'll likely never know it.
Overpressure is a MF.
Hi. Can he add a solar charging to the ventilation as well as having the battery
as far as lrifle goes, based on what I know, in the evvent of a stopped rifle round and armor deformation into the head , the forhead would be probably survivable due to your Frontal sinuses collapsing during impact preserving the brain (Brainsup or a dented skull, neither is good) , the top back and the side of the head, probably not unless it has a good shock absorber underneath because no sinuses there and the skull is not as thick as in the frontal bone , the face might not be bad to armor as well from """an injury standpoint only""" because it is very good at collapsing to protect the brain. However to reduce concussions/ head jerk (brain bouncing) maybe using a collapsible pad as a shock absorber might help reduce injuries- similar to how a motorcycle helmet has foam (EPA foam) that compresses- permanently to coushining the impact- the problem is calculating how hard it has to be to collapse- basicaly the stronger the impact, the harder the foam must resist collapsing to mitigate as much force as possible but then lower intensity impacts will cause some damage. --Basicaly - low density/strenght/ hardness EPA foam (doesnt have to be EPA foam ) means smaller impacts do basicaly nothing, but bigger impacts are barely mitigated, However High hardness/strenght/ density EPA means that bigger impacts wont do as much damage(they will do some), but smaller impacts will also do Some damage
My dad was shot in the head in WWII the bullet rattled around in his helmet he had a metal plate in his head lived to the age of 89 dealt with headaches most of his life
Time to call Halo, "Master Chief" for the upgrade...
Fueling and feeding the algorithm ⛽️ 🍔 🚀
What happens when you catch a round between panels? Does the frame itself offer the same level of protection?
No, but armor always has gaps. The way you killed a plate armor knight back in the day was tackle him and stab him in the eye socket or arm pit.
@@kerbalairforce8802 this. Armor is ALWAYS a tradeoff between protection and mobility, and personal body armor always has to make more concessions for mobility/vision/ breathing and there's no way to account for those requirements without compromising the protection.
Coolest thing so far
I can’t imagine the excitement of the crowd this upcoming week, I read about a huge announcement dropping Thanksgiving day. I’ll give y’all a hint so I don’t spoil the surprise for a pioneer & leader in men’s swimwear Speedo. It’s a perfect balance of innovation & outside the box thinking. The only thing I can say is 2 words, level 4, bulletproof, crotchless, beach safety.
Ounces = #'s and #'s = pain. Don't get me wrong. I love it.just can't wait until it is lighter. Love innovation. I hope they keep moving forward.
You won't be saying that when you get shot in the face without this fancy gun ninja mask
True, but I imagine this will primarily be used in urban environments and most likely through short term use where it's more required. The average ballistic/bump helmet and patrol cap will still be the standard for a while. But in the case of domestic terrorism/counter terrorism this might be very useful especially for peaking corners and not dying instantly to armed gunmen. Like the guy mentioned in the video, SWAT have bought these, and for their specific line of work I can imagine how valuable this type of protective gear can be. The only thing I would change is finding a way to increase visibility for the wearer since those lenses seem to be somewhat small.
Oh shit, Wes! 🔥🔥🔥
You can incorporate D30 material to reduce the impact
They need lightweight ballistic shields you can fit your muzzle threw
First one through the door breaching needs to have a ballistic shield to protect them
Rise of the
"Stormtroopers"
The problem seems like he said will u survive afterward I think the helmet plus some type of spinal support that will go over your chest and shoulders with sensor that will not allow the helmet to snap or have a reaction to the force of the bullet so that it just bounces right off also add some hydraulic so that the speed that the person needs to be able to move there head back and forth is easy I think with the technology we have today it can be done it’s gone take more then just one brain to make it work that’s all I have many ideas for this type of stuff
Is a kevlar/aramid helmet going to have lower backside deformation than a UHDMWPE or other plastic armor? Not much room for deformation inside a helmet.
So now I have to explain why I'm purchasing a tactical mask🤣
Nah u don't and that's the beauty of America
Unless you live in commiefornia
@@MegaBoricuakid I'm married and a 3k mask is a major "Just support my dreams" conversation 🤣🤣
@@TokenBlkTech I love it 😂
Collectors item for name a game or movie. She doesn’t pay attention to what it looks like.
How would a helmet protect from the kinetic power wouldbt non newtonion fluid or some other factor help
You could cosplay Shredder with Colion's
Of how much those are so cool I just can’t
IS that why Starwars Storm troopers can't hit Chit? They can't cheek their firearms? was curious about hearing protection and coms while wearing them
Hipfire isn't that hard
I need to question the conversation on long term injurys mentioned do to the use of helmet. History presents the natural transport of items carried on top of heads in many cultures around the world. Is there any facts there are long term injury from this also? I'm not understanding how that's possible with helmet.