iPhone 11 Pro VS $7500 Pro DSLR Camera
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How many did you get right out of 5??? Be honest :)
Matti Haapoja love you matti !!! From Pakistan !
I got it right Man
Dang only got 2 or 3 right
5 out of 3 i''m right
I guessed the first one right , the giver was shallow depth of field around your legs which stated that it was software hence iphone
4 out of 5. The background sharpness and color depths gave away the camera. Only one that got me was facing the lake.
Same Here
The lake photo from iphone has better dynamic range coz of hdr iphone using
Same here
Exactly the same for me .... I couldn’t tell the lake photo
I was watching at 144p but yeah, same results. The lake one got me
iPhone blurs out the back a bit more but the lake one I couldn’t tell at all the difference
Same bro I was confused too , before I made my decision answer was on the screen 🙈
The ducks give it away - look fake on the Iphone
same with me
I didnt saw the ducks
iPhone has more detail in both the highlights (in the water and in the rushes in right background) and shadows (guy's hair and jacket). Phone has more dynamic range in this scene. Apart from the 2 extra ducks closer to the camera in the 1DX shot, I don't see much difference between the two.
4/5. The Iphone always tends to make the background more blurred. Thats what gave it away.
The photos you take on iPhones are processed instantly after capturing. Whereas DSLRs require some sort of processing to truly show it's potential. When you're comparing raw/unedited images - Yes, the processed iPhone photo looks comparable to the raw DSLR photo.
I got 5 out of 5 the background quality gives it all away.
For the first one the focal plane didnt make much sense. Its basically saying Matti is a person so he should be in focus and everything else shouldnt be but there really isnt a transition. On the other hand if you dont know about focal planes it does a great job and would trick pretty much anyone that isnt really a photographer. IMO that is a win since for the most part they arent marketing this towards professional photographers and if you just need some quick shots but dont want to bring a full camera it will be good enough.
David Penner agreed. The fact that even a seasoned photographer needs more than and half second to tell is amazing. For 99 percent though it’s almost indistinguishable. In 5 years it will be exponentially more difficult.
Less than truthful detector: I got 1 out of 1 . . . the need to proudly declare your "superior eye" gives it all away.
Same here - Background in most areas and depth of field in all areas was pretty easy.
That was easy)
Finally a photographer that doesn't hate on phone cameras
Ⓙⓐⓢⓞⓝ Ⓜⓐⓣⓗⓤⓡⓐ this is what every photographer needs to see instead of bragging how much their camera costs and how good it is.
@@NBASFAN i mean that 1DX only has a 20mp sensor so... the fuji X-T30 body is only $900 and has 26...
Even for amateurs, with basic knowledge on how to go about things on a dslr, they'll click better pictures with a dslr than an iphone. It's different when a professional compares the cameras, he knows how to get beautiful shots, taking iphone pictures to the next level. Basic users can click pictures in both, and Dslr will come out on top. Edge detection is sometimes bad on the iphone, but it's still good, for people who don't want a dslr.
Also if you get a 70-200
It'll destroy an iphone, with the zoom and blur, not to forget night capabilities. And the eye detection tracking in videos, iphone needs some catching to do, before it bumps it price to 5000 dollars in the near future😂
Well, they have to justify their purchase by defending it so much. I think the $7500 camera is better, but not $6500 better.
5/5. It’s pretty easy if you first look at the background’s detail, then look at the color contrast differences. The iPhone tends to sort of blend colors together more while the DX2 is very distinctive.
This is the best review on RUclips i'v found yet about iphone 11 photography! The best thing is you color graded the photo to make both look the same. Perfect!
4 out of 5. Lake photo is the only one that messed me up
same
You can see the iPhone has wider wood reflection area on the right.
same. i noticed the iphone has a more of a "blurry" or "soft" edge between subject and background
Same
+1
4 out of 5
Chech the bokeh effect to differentiate
that's the trick
Yeah I did the same
Same!
Akhilesh Kumar agree
Did the same. iPhone seemed to be more bokeh
im never buying another camera again thats just what i learned
Hey Matt! Thanks for the video. I have been contemplating new camera vs iPhone and I think you just sold me on a phone! What about enlarging these for wall prints? What’s your take? Thanks!
That refocusing app...that blew my mind.
“Don’t worry about it, we’ll focus it in post”
😂😂
Yeah, that would be SO sick if it could be done with video
@@philadams9254 There's no technical reason it can't be done. It's just multiple cameras focused on foreground, mid and background. Not unlike the Matrix scene with the world stopping and camera 'rotating' around Neo and Mr Smith. With enough cameras, you can have perfect focus every time, because every point of focus is taken by one of the lenses :)
@@alexsem490 Is it multiple cameras? I'm all but certain it's (or at least was in the first couple of generations) a function of the massive depth of field of small sensors.
If you rotate the camera to the side of the image in Focos (yes, Focos can do that, it's similar to the individual slices of an MRI), you can see many many more layers than just 2 or 3
@@alexsem490 I don't think your multiple camera idea would work, to get a shallow DoF you'd need so many huge lenses that the perspective would shift depending on which sensor you decided to take the footage from. The iPhone builds a depth map from images taken from separate cameras, which allows the fake bokeh to be applied in the correct places (well, as best it can).
Samsung phones actually do have a shallow DoF simulation mode for video. The example I saw was comically bad, but give it a few years and you'll be doing smooth focus pulls in post :)
@@alexsem490 Nope, the magic is having one good small camera which is near focus for all distances and then depth map computed from one or more additional sensors and lots of processing to compute how the image would look if it had real bokeh. The major problem with this is that the depth sensors are not accurate enough so lots of guessing needs to be done. As a result it will look good for some subjects, and very poor for some other subjects. With enough experience you can figure out the situations the software handles badly and you just don't shoot in those conditions. The another problem is that the dynamic range is not high enough to blur a single overexposed pixel to much larger out of focus disc (bokeh) with correct intensity. That can be worked around with underexposure as long as the sensor noise is low enough.
The border around the objects in focus are a dead give away
2 out of 5 correct
The focus app sometimes fucks up the borders
Thanks for this video. I learned a lot.
Some people in the comment section are saying “you don’t need to pay hundreds of dollars for a photographer anymore”
But in fact you don’t pay a photographer only for his gears but also his knowledge and expertise when it comes to creating a great photography
There is so much more to photography than just the gears
Photography is a discipline that requires learning.
If you need to pixel peep, that already proves the point lol, that was crazy
The most obvious differences you can see are:
-iPhone's HDR in backgrounds is better compared to the way he edited the DSLR images.
-Individual hairs that are only visible in the DSLR images and other small errors the iPhone does with the blur.
Cristi and also the software blurred background
@@foxtrotyankee6131 thank you this is always so obvious
@@foxtrotyankee6131 well it's obvious when the ground is visible...
That's right. The focus falloff is also bad on the iPhone. It suddenly turns very blurry.
Managed to get 5/5, I was looking at edge detection, bokeh and overall sharpness. Great video!
Finally noticed the blur background shot by DSLR was more clear and detailed.
imagine how good actual cameras would be if they incorporated computational photography.
They don't need it bro. Optics and physics work for them. That's why those cameras are the benchmark. But yes, cellphones are catching on.
that would be human eyes
Kalpesh Patel They would still benefit from more dynamic range, less noise, better sharpness.
@@KalpeshPatel78 they've already lost the title in some areas (apart from cost, size, and bulk, which they lost years ago). For example hand-held low light shots of static scenes with a decent DoF (SOOC). Smartphones wipe the floor with larger sensor cameras.
Check out astrophotography :) the guys there can take pictures equal to Hubble space telescope(lower resolution of course :) ) from their backyards using canon 500d camera or any other cheap DSLR and a telescope...
4/5 only messed up the lake
Same
Yep!
Same here.
Same
I messed up the leaf
Two: Correct, Two: Incorrect and One: Undecided
Fab!!! Great video! Is there an app that can convert old SLR photos into a ‘digital looking’ image? Thanks!
4/5
The lake picture got me! The fact that it's hard to tell is a scary sign though.
Me too!! 😂
Same. The hair bokeh tricked me.
Filip TM Same here man. First time the iPhone got the hair right and the big boy camera messed up. But the HDR did confuse me a bit as well, because smartphones generally have better HDR
Afterglow What’s so scary about your phone camera being so good?
Oh you know, the fact that software is slowly replacing the need for traditional hardware, computer AI is rapidly improving, machines will learn how to take over their human masters, Skynet, etc, etc...
Learning about Focos was *the* value of this video for me. 😲
This is so nice and inspiring... Thank you 😊😊😊
I am interested in what you used to shoot the video with.
Very informative and astonishing. I used a 20D ten plus years ago, and I think my iPhone X takes shots and the slr ability alone amazes me. Because I was doing sports and using lenses to capture what I nearly can with my iPhone.
The actual difference is the edges and corners and the blur.
Exactly. It’s very obvious as the iPhone messes up the blur at the edges of very sharp objects. The maple leaf, the wispy hairs get nuked by the iPhone bokeh. Very impressive in what the iPhone can do, but not quite there vs real optical bokeh.
Apple should start making cameras 😂
true
I bet it’s in the works right now
bro how tf is dslr still in bisness 😂??????????
they ARE making cameras :P
the ones in their phones
@@bigggasss9429 Not sure about DSLR, but mirrorless is because there is exponentially more image data captured in an A7RIV than through an iPhone. No contest. If you're just shooting JPGs, you should probably just buy an iPhone.
Which camera you use for youtube videos??
Your Video Quality is Amazing!!
got 5 out of 5 but i’m veeeery impressed with the iphone
the “problem” of the iphone is that the “bokeh” looks weird sometimes
Exactly how I saw things. Processing can be seen.
Agreed
Yep this was how I was able to get it, the bokeh looked like it obliterated the background more than a normal amount
Yes, and the effect can’t be applied to RAW, and most serious photogs need RAW. Also, the transitions/fall off from a subject is often still fake looking, because a computational blur essentially smears the pixels, making it look like the edges of the face are melting.
Iphone cant use a 70200 2.8 or a 85 1.8 or even a 50mm 1.8. With these lenses you would know immediately which one
The 'artificial' bokeh tells it. Most obvious with the leave: the edges that go outside your body frame are being smudged out as background bokeh.
3/5 - I really need to start taking photos on my iphone 11 :) great vid :)
Have you made any comparison Filming with an iphone vs a dslr?
All identified correctly - the blur in iphone is some kind of "artificial".
lepo of-course it’s artificial. The digital pixelization does not give off a natural feel like an eye would give. Dslr is closest thing to your look that you see in the mirror. A natural you.
Got 5 out of 5. The edge detection was a big give away.
yes, iphone one kindly blurry at the edge try to blend with other stuff
Same.
“Big” lol
Also you can tell the blur on the iPhone was made with Software from the phone and on the DSLR it's actually made by physics so yea. (at 2:10 the iPhone even blurred out that guys head (watch behind his ear)
niemand wow that’s pretty significant. I wonder if he noticed that
which camera will you recommend for a photographer enthusiast with not a great budget $ ? thanks Matti
5 out of 5, just look at the blur background, the Iphone blurs a lot more..
Not really. The shooter controls that in post---it's up to his or her discretion.
But isn't that the intention to highlight the subject though? I on the other hand don't trust the only 'judge and jury " #YourChoice
@a b I am hearing you. But I am sure if indeed needed, it will be "fixed" in future firmware upgrades... Either way, I still don't buy this entire idea. There is NO WAY any of the photos shown were taken with a pinhole, cellphone camera. I simply refuse to be fooled...
@a b You see, it won't surprise me if he is fooling us and the picture you think is the DSLR is actually the iPhone. The internet is full of this sort of tests and I keep on guessing them wrong 😣 Now, he won't catch me out again. If he turns around and says it was the other way around - I will be ready for him 😂
@a b Please don't get personal... I am not blind. I know quite a bit about computers and photos and Fourier transformations. Got my 1st camera 1976 for my 10th birthday. Be assured, over the years I got quite a few cameras and lenses and what have you. You take my comments ways to serious... Wish you a nice day 👍
You can easily tell the difference when you look at the hair.
With pixel you can't though
@@ncisgreat Of course you can. The Pixel has the same issue as the iPhone. Don't get me wrong, the software on both devices has definitely gotten a lot better over the years but they're still bad at rendering super fine edges.
@@McGravyLiciouss no
Pixel 4 is lot better than iPhone for rendering edges. You can check camera comparison videps on youtube
@@ncisgreat I have seen a few comparisons and i agree with you when it comes to Pixel being better at rendering fine edges than the iPhone but that doesn't change the fact that it's still a problem that exists within the computational photography realm. It doesn't matter if it's an iPhone, Pixel, Samsung, etc...
I got 4 out 5. Dammit!
me 2... just 2nd last was hard to tell, rest was pretty easy with that unnatural bokeh & the oversaturation in some parts.
@@wir-zusammen.7681 Yea I got the same one wrong too!
@@wir-zusammen.7681 exactly
I also got one wrong
The lake photo was the hard one but I got 4/5 .
The specs of the standard iPhone 11 camera and the wide lens are basically the same as the 11 pro, yes?
Thanks.
Loved the video!
I got everything right after he answered.
🤣
Guessed?
These 12 minutes cost me 1k. I seriously just ordered the new iPhone after watching this video!
hell. yeah mee too. i switched over iphone XR
11 is great phone - same camera as 11pro
iPhone pro Max here. It’s amazing 😉
@@joe9427 liar
@@joe9427 jk 😆
Got all 5 right, the subject from the background separation gives it away easy.. but I'm sure at a quick glance it would be hard to tell.
how about changing the lens and use 50mm 1.4 , will be comparable ?
The focos app is insane, never heard of it! Thanks for sharing :)
Its easy to know witch is iphone camera. Picture witch is smoother background is iphone :)
I got them all right, the backgrounds and the edge of the subject gave it away.
Moment lens + iOS 13 + iPhone 11 + focos app + Lightroom = professional social media photography tool alternative
The lake one was difficult. iPhone's bokeh is just unreal to me.
Unreal is the right term as it is not produced by the lens :-)
My Iphone 11 Pro photos aren't nearly as good, what is your process to get so nice colors and background blur? Do you shot RAW on the Iphone and use a third party app to edit the colors and add the background blur?
thank you so much for making this video.
True depth of field doesn't lie. That's why the lake photo was the hardest.
1DX is 8 years old. Has no computation. Wait until mirrorless cameras with smart features.
hahahahhahahahahahaahhahahahahahahahaahahahahahaha
@@giovanmonti5189 that is the problem unfortunately. Non of the major camera players not putting enough thoughts into software. Sony are the only company has done some work in computation. Example eye detection. Now they are planing to put this technology in Sony phones. So at this rate cameras will be only needed in sport and wild life and may be just maybe in weddings
@@therandiked the software part is on your computer. It's called "Lightroom" or "Affinity". You've all absolutely no idea what you're talking about.
@@frankwalders I am not talking about software like lightroom or Photoshop. I am talking about computation built in with the cameras to autofocus, ( it is software vthat drives servo motors of the camera ect ) camera AI I am taking about. On the video he goes it is the computation. Software is big part of any product. Your washin,g machine has software in. Your tv, your car ....you don't have a clue ....software does not mean something that works on a computer
@@frankwalders btw you had me laughing when you referring software to something that on a computer hahahaha .... your phone has software which help to take amazing pictures. It is artificial intelligence Or AI
The iphone is extremely good! I just wonder how much can the image from the iphone image can be enlarged, let's say for a wall muriel or a billboard from the RAW file? How much control is there of the dynamic range in comparison to the 1DX?
This is crazy! I wonder how it looks like when you zoom in on each photo.
Much better on the camera.
I got them all but it was very tough and I was almost guessing for some.
As a DLSR user and large format printing company, I can vouch for the quality. My iPhone promax does way more than I ever thought a phone could do. I actually bought the phone strictly for the camera. Oh, I also bought that focos app as soon as you mentioned it..great video and totally unbiased.
5 out 5. Over sharpening on things like the beard and extreme blurring of the background are still noticeable on the iphone
What camera you used to record yourself !!!!! I need to know ASAP
Hey, i got 3 out of 5! i am no professional, what software do you recommend for video editing? thank you:)
I would love to compare them on printed media.
Yes, this all the way. Print photos from both cameras at 24x36", then retry the comparison.
But let's be real, 95%+ of photos are consumed on mobile now. Meaning resolution etc is mostly irrelevant.
I mean if you own a expensive camera and never print.. there is just something delightful in holding a fresh print, how much more vivid the colours are etc
Exactly what I thought ! As a printer/graphic designer I'm sick of people yelling at me like "OMG what have you done? I took this picture with my iPhone and it looks like crap !" Well this pictures are made to look good on your (small) screen but that's it...
lol, iphone is for instagram only.
Got them all right. Based it on background detail.
After being surprisingly wrong on the first image (where I thought the sharper close up detail would be the camera), choosing correctly on the following images was easy. The iPhone tended to have more detail or sharpness in the close-up content and a more... blobby? character in the distant background. The real camera had less sharp - or more subtle? - close up detail and a unique, almost cell-like background blur. Had I not seen the images side by side for comparison, I would have found them both very nice. And perhaps real photographers find the camera's less sharp close up detail more natural, but I liked the iPhone's detail. This was really noticeable on the denim jacket. It looked smeared and washed out on the camera, where as on the iPhone it seemed like you could see the different colored threads more distinctly.
5/5 correct because of the background, but it is insanely close.
i got all 5. something just doesn't sit well with the backgrounds in the iPhone pictures
Adrian Symons Portrait mode by default tends to add a little more blur than you’d traditionally expect from the photo, which is why it’s always good to tweak the “aperture” when you edit the photo in the photos app
I was waiting for this video since I saw the photos on your twitter. I’m happy to know I guessed right. Since the last similar video to this one I’ve been paying more attention to photos I see. It’s kinda awesome to be able to know the camera just by looking at a photo 😁
I think now that a lot of us are more used to the "portrait modes" of many smartphones these days it's much easier to tell the difference. I had trouble the first time I saw this video but now you can by the background, which looks like it was blurred through software.
Though I'm sure there will come a day where we won't be able to tell the difference in good lighting.
Background quality and some more details in foreground quality, difference. I can tell within the pixels :)
I like that this tech will actually force mobile “photographers” to learn how to take a good pic and then realize that hardware is in a lot of ways the least important part of taking a good pic.
Don't you mean mobile fauxtographers?
Remember when everybody and their sister thought that snapchat filters brought their 'photos to new levels?' Same thing here.
If you understand how to produce a quality photograph, the gear is of no consequence. If you don't - or, worse yet, believe you do all evidence to the contrary - no amount of fancy gear will help you.
P. Peter R welllll my post actually was referring to people who are more concerned with specs than actual output. The most advanced camera in the world will take bad pictures if the user doesn’t know how to use it.
In my experience is not true. I was using samsung S8 and iPhone 10, but when I bought a standalone camera I could see a big difference right away and suddenly people started saying compliments about my pictures. Below a quick comparison
ibb.co/8KnP3KL
ibb.co/7VPLKmD
Huge difference in colors and dynamic range, especially if you shoot photos towards the sun
SleptOn I follow ya. My friend has a Pixel 3a and it has really provoked an interest in photography for him. He wants to know what to do to get into photography but doesn’t have much money right now. I told him he can learn a lot from his phone and still get rewarding images. Perspective is a big piece of good photos and there is a lot of color editing that can be done on a phone too. Showing up to a shoot with just a phone won’t be ideal but he can prep for when he can afford a nicer camera.
@@PabloB888 IDK man, that's what I've got with a Note8 which is similar to S8.
ibb.co/C6PtWvn
The same shot with a DSLR:
ibb.co/2kf1vLn
Iphone 11 Pro shoots waaaay better than Note8/S8, but I couldn't make a comparison just yet.
Since when is Kevin Magnussen a tech reviewer?
yes! this was my first thought
Absolutely agree with what you say. And never mind the sensor size, what about the size of glass on a phone camera? And the abuse that glass gets with the phone going in and out of pockets etc. And while professional photographers might not be using a phone camera for serious work, I certainly know a couple who rely on a phone as their 'everyday carry' camera. I studied a bit of optics years ago as part of a physics degree, and what phones achieve really seems to re-write the subject.
4/5. I just looked at the edges. That's where software blur still fails the most, depending on subject and background. Any lens with a big apperture is still superios to software blur when it comes to edges.
Got all of them right, mostly because the phone's software fails sometimes at the edges of an object and it isn't as good when it comes to getting the more blurry the further you are from the object, so sometimes there are sharp feet but the floor directly at the feet is blurry😉
Thanks for the excellent comparison. Even before portrait mode came along, I was getting frustrated with my Nikon D100 often messing up the exposure where the iPhone had no problem. Sure, you can correct more on the real camera, shoot RAW and all, but I feel they're really falling behind on the software side of things. I hope this computational sophistication will make its way to Nikon and Canon, soon.
good day. are you available to dialogue about videoing with iPhone 11 to iMac and mixer for purposes of podcasting? thanks so much.
Crazy I got them all right. I’ve always had an interest in photography but don’t own any other camera than my 11 pro max. I must just have a good eye for it, the background being a little more blurred in one picture than the other gave away the iPhone pictures. Considering going to school for photography, would it be worth it?
I don’t care which one, I haven’t money
Could you imagine showing up to a wedding or a portrait shoot with only an iPhone instead of a camera and a set of amazing lenses and just seeing the clients face hahaha
You'd be sacked on the spot, and likely sued for breaking your contract and ruining the wedding.
Just need to quick check the border between the main object & the blurred background to guess them.
What is that imac stand!!
If we looked at the raw imagines on the pc we would spot it a mile away on a compressed RUclips it is hard, let’s be honest here.
I got 3/5 looking at it on my old iPhone
you are absolutely wright!pictures like on iphone looks the same on a lots of the phones,but if you take a look reality ,take look a picture on PC ,yes then normal camera allways is better! photos taken with phone is digitally commpressed and when you try to zoom closer,its goes blurry,but on normal camera with normal picture size sensor,image going better and better !
Janis Locis - Paruskins that’s why the pokaphone won for the best camera at mkbs channel. All the images look great when compressed
It's great to see apple investing in the phone camera again, as other phone manufacturers have done years. And finally 3 sensors.
Curious to quality on video for moving items to transfer to you tube
Thanks for the video really cool, I recognised the iPhone in all of them, the funny thing is that I don't have iPhone smartphone.
The iPhone’s bokeh is a bit more exaggerated
u can change it in the photo editor of iPhone
PorssiMies yeah because the Chinese government edits the photos for u
PorssiMies yea no. ...
Since the XS there is Depth control where u can increase and decrease the blur
@PorssiMies Huawei phones have the shittiest skin when it comes to android.
Imagine adding this software to the 1dx
Love it I get 4 right and one wrong.. the one in the lagoon was really tougher 😂😂
Thanks for the video.yes ,it's all good and comparable on the iPhone ,but what about zooming ?can an iPhone zoom 45 times or 60 times ? No, but a bridge or mirroless camera can .
That lake shot... I got it wrong and that really shows how good the iPhone camera is.
7:29 barber: Oops! think I made a mistake
4/5 only one being the facing lake photo. Background is sharper and colours fuller with pro cam. But both are very good
2 right. The future is full of possibilities. Thanks for the video.
I got all of them RIGHT
I think it's easy to find out which one is the iPhone image just by looking at the background or the color
btw I love ur work
2020 is near and it's nice to see a canon catching up pretty well with the smartphones
lol
@@DanceStarsNYC right? Lol
@@oc3144 you know it. Lol
thx for this video, was deciding whether to jump into the dslr bandwagon. will keep my p900 nikon super zoom for long distance and iphone for portraits :)
at 4:04, the plant on the window..you could see some of the leaves just being blurred out which isnt supposed to be. For me, nothing still beats the organic composition of a physical lens. I have recently bought a 2x telephoto lens by Aukey for my Nokia 808 Pureview which i use regularly for photograpy. This Aukey is the only one that has made a larger clip that could fit the thick lens off my Nokia. It mimics a 56mm prime lens of a DSLR.
Took some sample portrait shots yesterday and you could technically notice the bokeh gradient for each and every milimmeter on the photo. If i could only post photos on youtube comments, i would. I do believe current modern smartphones are catching up on technology but i still cant see any technology replacing hardware.
But hey thanks for the putting up this great video!