Complete 150 Joker Tier List | Balatro
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Madness is god tier. The tier list for this game is completely different for high and low stakes runs. Madness being F is crazy for gold stake runs, you can get eternal jokers and stack it up to 10x if you get it early, so it's just WAY better than you rated it. I get that it's bad on white stake, but it's the clearest example of a joker that gains value after you go higher in stakes.
More than fair, it was challenging to rate every Joker while considering every Stake. Maybe I should have done base difficulty only, dunno.
@@Haelian Ya you can't really mix difficulties in a tier list for this game. Scaling X-mult is by far the most important thing at higher stakes, and basically any joker that gives you that consistently will rank high, but you barely even need X-mult when you're playing white stake because you're on the low tier of ante scaling. The drawbacks don't really matter because it's impossible to win without the scaling X-mult, and madness is the most consistent, and one of the quickest scaling X-mult cards in the game.
@@Haelian Make a new tier list for every stake.
I beat blue stake for first time with a madness + eternal shoot the moon and eternal dna the other day. Got it super early and got it to x13. Didn’t have to deal with the scaling in purple stake and beyond, but it was pretty amazing regardless. I definitely rate madness pretty high if early, but otherwise it can kind of derail you. Much easier to make work with eternal jokers but yeah just situational
Making a tier list for this game is a tough task, and I think they function best as insights into a particular player's style. :D
Between all of the different types of decks, the difficulties, etc, those values can all change wildly
I think if you have qualifiers like he did where the point is "to get you through to end of a run" is good or specifying "without synergies" is good to kind of gauge relative strength but yeah, it's tough to evaluate stuff in a vaccuum
Yep, very true. I view tier lists as a source of entertainment more than "advice" generally.
I genuinely thought earlier today, for the first time, "I wonder if Haelian's done a Balatro tier list," and now here it is.
No but same
Without nitpicking every placement, my two cents about where I differ philosophically are:
- X Mult cards tend to be really damn strong. Even if the specific effect is barely better than Polychrome, its often correct to stack them. (Throwback is super easy S tier imo) For the same reason:
- I appreciate a single Joker giving a lot of mult, like 100 or so, so i have a lot of space to stack X mult jokers. Just having one 100 mult Joker and couple Polychromes (or Pseudo Poly, like Steel joker if you only have two steel or so) tends to be enough. So i do appreciate Dagger, Bootstraps and Pants a lot, cause they can do that.
- Massive chips is easy to underrate. Im surprised you put stuntman so high (I fully agree!) while a lot of other jokers can easily become like, half as strong without the downside. If your played hand only gives 150 chips, then adding 150 chips is a X2.
- You rated a lot of jokers badly that are essentially free as long as you have the slot. I think Credit Card costs literally nothing to buy? (Sells for the same, i mean) Bit weird for an F tier
To be fair, i havent played a ton of highest difficulty runs, so I understand i might overvalue late gamey stuff where in reality ill die like Ante 3. But still.
Can't take the list seriously with Mime in D. As if steel cards didn't exist
Four fingers also let's you do flush houses when one of your five cards is not a matching suit. I haven't tried yet but it should also make flush five with four out of five identical numbered cards the same suit. Very very powerful.
Just a followup: this is really only powerful of your flush fives or flush houses score higher than your four/five of a kind/full house scores. If your flush house is 200 chips more than full house, then the card is worth 200 chips and whatever extra mult.
From someone who has beaten the gold stake on each deck I'd say this is pretty solid. I actually think you undervalue both half joker and stencil joker. I look at both of those cards as a way to build early economy. They both easily get you through anti 3 by themselves. They both value planet cards and steel cards. They both are probably sells but I have beaten runs with just stencil joker and a negative joker.
I'm not a fan of misprint on its own if you are going for win streaks. It can be great but it can kill you pretty easily
I won a run with a stencil that I then Polychromed and duplicated. So just two polychromed stencils by themselves easily cleaned the run.
half joker with those jokers add chips for pair carry me twice, sure it needs lots of mercury
The disrespect for retriggers. All of them are easy S tiers for me. You can easily build around them especially if you get them early. They're an instant buy for me. I think this tier list suffers from all the synergies in the game and different playstyles that work for winning the game. Haelian seems to dislike playing hands like high card and pair, but those are some of the easiest hand builds to win on high stakes. My first gold stake win was with a pair build. Ultimately it's Haelian's opinion and I think this game allows for playing different styles that a player prefers to win, so everybody's tier lists are probably vastly different with no clear "correct" answer.
I think flushes get a lot weaker at higher difficulties. Every 5 card hand feels weaker there, unless you got a lot of nice deck manipulation early. -1 hand size and -1 discard make running more consistent 4 card hand setups a lot better, and I also find I need to spend my money rolling for good jokers to survive the early game and to eventually scale, rather than buying lots of arcana to manipulate my deck to hit flushes consistently.
I also don't think you're rating plus chip jokers correctly. Getting 200 chips on a joker is often equivalent to a x2 mult and unlike multipliers, the chips jokers are very strong early and strong late (if their scaling keeps up). A setup of 1 chip scaling joker, one strong flat joker and 3 multipliers are my preferred setup. Square and wee joker are some of the best jokers in the game, they can largely carry your run into ante 5 or 6 singlehandedly on higher difficulties. Conversely, utility jokers like four fingers are pretty mediocre on higher difficulties.
I think this is a good list! I really like how liberal you were with the F tier. It's true a lot of these are just not worth anything if you're only goal is winning ante 8. A few things stood out to me in a weird way though. You made a comment that you shouldn't take Gros Michel with the hope Cavendish shows up, and I actually think that's incorrect and why both should be S tier. It's all on the basis that Cavendish itself is a common rarity card, making it VERY possible to show up once its enabled, by far the easiest X3 mult you'll find, and all you have to do is run a +15 no conditions mult card for a bit to get it. Hard to resist imo.
I am glad you pointed out how scaling based cards can be bait, given how much theoretical money they cost you over time.
I think campfire is underrated. Even if you only sell 2 things per ante, that makes it a 2X card, which is worth a joker slot for only beating ante 8, and by ante 8, when you might need more, you should have some sort of preparation or economy in place to really gear it up for X3 and beyond.
I think abstract is a little overrated. At the earliest points where small additive mult is the most helpful, its less likely to be all the way at +15. By late game, +15 mult isn't that helpful. It's a smaller window where it is hitting 15 and 15 is worth a whole lot.
I think the X2 pair joker should be S, given that it is easy to pull off, has a worthwhile effect, and covers every hand type other than High Card, Straights, and Flushes. It also synergizes with the other Duplicate card Xmult jokers.
I think Yorick has to be A tier, and B or C tier depending on what difficulty you main or how much you're weighing that. If you play on the stake that removes 1 discard, Yorick does nothing for like 4 antes. That's a long time to be handicapped. If you don't see it within like the first 3 antes it almost isn't usable. Really wish that Joker started at like 1.5x at least until the effect triggered, given how easy it is to cater to some of the other legendaries.
Fun video though. Love talking about this game.
Great points and feedback, thank you!
Im pretty sure the 2x pair joker can even trigger with flushes. Just need to through in a random pair as it wont override the flush
Bro your trippin, half the jokers your rated mid are the jokers you got gold stake wins with in your personal game lol
Both green joker and square joker can carry a run if you get them early,
Like sure you don't want to be playing a lot of hands by default but with either of these it's suddenly really good to play 9-12 hands in an act and get 9-12 mult and 36-48 chips per act.
The other problem with Hiker is that it singlehandedly triples the length of your run.
48:05 I think that wording might make it more confusing, it doesn’t double your interest cap (how something like seed money would from $25-5 to $50-10) instead it doubles the gain from your interest, so if you have $25 instead of 5 interest you gain 10. Also worth noting that to the moon will synergize with seed money, so if you have $50 in hand plus seed money and to the moon you gain $20 of interest every round
Has he played the game???
I agree with you, he missplaced almost every joker
I know Sixth Sense is trash, but I just can't resist it. I still dream of getting that mythic run where I can keep duplicating 6s and burning them for Spectrals (somehow). Not that all those Spectral cards would be that useful after a point, but still. They're just too tempting, you know what I mean?
At least with Séance I know when there's no way to go for it, but even still, every now and then... 👀
p.s.:
Séance wins: 0
Sixth Sense wins: 1 (Polychrome)
This game is too addicting
truely! like people use the term to say a game is really fun, but idk why but this game just locks in my adhd mind. I have 106 hours on it and decided to uninstall cause it is too damaging. Nevertheless its really fun game.
I haven't bought this game for the same reason I have never smoked crack. There is a 100% chance I will get addicted.
One argument for the reroll shops for $0 joker that makes it better is that it costs $4 and sells for $2, and a shop reroll is $5. If it is offered in a shop and you need to find something / want to reroll, it is always worth buying if only for the free reroll that you get immediately, and if you are capped out on your jokers and see something you want, you sell it and now you have spent $2 instead of $5.
ah cool, I used to watch you play Hades a few years ago and I find your channel again when I’m getting into Balatro
I think a lot of people forget the egg + temperance combo. if you can just hang on to the egg it will often pay off
Also good for late ceremonial dagger and swashbuckler
Interesting to rate dagger that bad. I feel like I get reasonable value out of it. For a suit joker you are gonna get between 8 and 20 mult. Getting to 8 mult on dagger is pretty easy. It has some good synergies with gift card, riff raff, and egg. I had a 200 mult dagger the other day bc it ate a $100 egg I was saving for the final boss. To be it feels like B or C. F feels off.
A few fun combos occurred to me while watching this. One of them would be Paredolia (all cards are face cards) + Midas (all face cards become gold when played) + Vampire (consume enhancements to increase mult). Since gold is an enhancement, you could just have unlimited power in theory.
Man, you put all my favorite jokers in the bottom 2 tiers lmao. Square Joker is so good and if you get it in the first 3 or so antes you can pretty easily get it to the 150-200 chip range, and sometimes you can even get it up almost to stuntman level. Most of my gold stake wins have relied on square joker. Wee joker is also pretty awesome, but harder to level up. Also, green joker and ride the bus can get to the +50 range quite often. At that point you can discard if you need it, because green joker only loses -1 per discard. At least you put Burglar in S-tier (which seems kind of odd considering you don't like the scalables that scale with lots of hands played, as that's what I usually use him with)
Yeah I really disagree with a lot of these ratings for gold stake runs, but perhaps this tier list isn't just for gold stake. Severe underrating of chips jokers, overrating utility jokers that you usually can't afford to carry since you need immediate or scaling power.
@@SidnvI mention in the first 30 seconds that I try to consider all difficulties (which probably doesn't work super well admittedly).
All good points, I guess I view the "scale with hands played" Jokers on relying on something like Burglar and/or Stuntman most of the time. So, in my mind, Jokers that require another specific Joker to become viable don't feel very strong.
@@Haelian These jokers do not need Burglar or Stuntman to be strong, as long as you get them before ante 5. A lot of my gold stake wins come from playing high card/pair/two pair hands with one to two scaling flat mult jokers (bus, supernova, pants, green joker, fortune teller) and one chips joker (square, wee for scaling or stuntman for immediate value), with the remaining two jokers ideally being multipliers but can be a mix of multiplier, utility or some other high source of flat mult. By manipulating your jokers if necessary (putting multipliers early on), you can make them two to three shot most blinds, and so all the scaling jokers naturally scale up. These jokers provide you just enough value to not die early on, which is probably the most important thing a joker can do on Gold stake, and then scale up to just about killing all antes. And since most of your scoring comes from jokers, these decks don't care about which cards they play, so they are super consistent and immune to boss blinds.
I've found that without some early spectral pack luck or specific decks like Erratic deck, it's very hard to consistently build hands that require all 5 cards at gold stake. Good high card, pair and two pair decks are the most consistent winning strategy at gold in my experience, and all these scaling jokers are key to making them work.
I'm a big Green Joker fan, though mainly for Blue deck. Gets up to +50 chips very regularly and can just keep scaling further up until you pass ante 8 and you start discarding more than playing. Green Joker + a scaling Mult Mult is like an auto win. Just play hands and win.
I had a game tonight where I got two perkeo cards in the first and second ante with soul and spectral dupe. Then completely flubbed it and died in ante 4. I was going to replay the seed but the only place you see the seed is on the death screen. I didn't know that there is no run history in the game. Random double perkeo seed lost. 😢. I went and got shadowplay working and enabled the replay so it won't happen again.
Damn, that is rough. Hopefully a run history feature is added
If you don't start a new run, you can "continue" a failed run. It just picks up on the last hand so you can't save the run, but you can see the death screen and get the seed.
My first win was marble joker + the one that gives you x chips per stone card, plus the legendary that dupes consumables. High card was like lvl 15 and most of my deck was stone a few with foils. I got to ante 10 I think in endless before the deck really just hit its limit but I think if you get it early it's not terrible for ante 1-8
The video we’ve all been waiting for !!!
I'm hopeful that we get more jokers that create interesting synergies as time goes on. Luck Be A Landlord does this really well, where almost every item synergizes with something else. There's a lot of room for that kind of design idea here I think.
This dude says "Ya know wha I mean?" More than the Gallagher brothers after a coke binge XD
About ancient joker, you can play around it really easily. All you do is have an even number of suits and go for flushes. Leveling up flushes with planets then scales really nice with this.
The consistency in this tier list is crazy bad, specifically chips! Half the cards do the same thing but you rank one of em in f tier and the other in A. Flat mult is also bad! There is no regard with scaling
Delayed gratification is an absolute banger card. Any run where you get a decent multiplier card (b or c tier, or banner) early you pretty much end up crushing the early antes. You might end up playing an extra hand or two which costs you a couple bucks, but you end up collecting six or eight dollars for it. It's a huge early economy boost. It doesn't belong anywhere in the same universe as ride the bus.
Splash is a little underrated imo. It's not going to make or break you, but it allows you to throw an extra card in to trigger Fibonacci, scary Joker photograph, any of the suit Jokers, etc. It just allows you to trigger a lot of extra mult conditions
Can’t lie bro delayed gratification is dookie on anything but the red deck, especially in high stakes
@@bengo7728 I mean saying it's only good for the red deck is a bit of a stretch. It's good for pretty much every deck below blue chip. Checkered deck gets flushes so easily half the time you don't even need rerolls. Plasma deck averaging gets the early antes done with very little help. There's all kinds of decks it works for. It's one of the highest possible returns on an economy card, and even if you have to spend a couple extra hands it is on par with the rest. I agree it doesn't work in the higher difficulties, but that's far from being garbage.
@@TheNathanlockhart that’s the problem with it though, it’s reliant on so many conditions to be better than golden joker or cloud 9.
1. You can’t play Blue stake or above unless you’re on red deck
2. You need to use no more than one extra hand because of its presence
3. You essentially need to have your run set up already or be using one of the most overpowered decks in the game (checkered and plasma)
In 90% of situations it’s just a golden joker that disables your discards, mid at best certainly not a banger
@@bengo7728 It's 100% better than golden joker and Cloud 9 in any situation with 3 or more discards. If it takes you 2 extra hands, you get the same basic return as those 2. Any less, you get a better return. That's anything under blue chip with basically every deck, any time with red deck, or any time you have extra discards. That's way more than the 10% of the time you are estimating. Better than half the time it's better than golden joker, which puts it at least C tier on this list. And when it is that good, it's one of the best economy cards in the game. It doesn't take remotely anything broken to work like you are claiming. It takes exactly what you need with any other economy card but you have to be willing to play differently and sometimes take an extra hand or two. I can agree banger is an exaggeration, but it isn't garbage or D tier.
@@TheNathanlockhart I just subscribe to a belief that if it can’t function on high stakes it’s a little poopy, I end up spending almost all my time on purple stake or higher
Pretty weird you dismiss ride the busses because you "need to get it early for it to be useful" but put DNA in S tier.
Ride the bus is actually really good and easy to use if you play high cards for hands to increase its mult and then end the round with a flush. Doing that you can get it to 12 mult in one ante and its at least on par with a lot of the b tier jokers. It seems like you haven't used the strategy with this joker, and in that case I'd agree it's lackluster. Getting up to 24 or 30 mult isn't that hard and requires little to no tarot manipulation for your deck other than discarding face cards (or playing them with an ace high card or a low pair)
A couple of full completionist achievers posted their most run jokers from that stat page and ride the buss is consistently top 5, the chip difference between face card and playing a 2 is essentially irrelevant since the premier strategies are all joker-based scoring, so losing face card scoring is a weak downside compared to easily getting to 30+ mult if you get it early, its not rare to see it at 50 with pair decks. Same idea as green joker being a top 5, both jokers work because you can play whatever hand you see lol
the problem with ride the bus is that i'm bad and greedy and put way too much effort into maxing it out and forget that I actually also have to clear the blinds lmao
I sometimes don’t like the risk, as you can get in situations where you have to play a face card or get a super clogged hands, especially on high stakes when hand size and discards are reduced, though I agree haelian underrated it.
17:30 steel joker is a beautiful synergy with the mime joker that "doubles in hand effects" and the king joker that "has every king in hand give a 1.5x mult". I got billions of points by running a deck of duplicated kings, large hand size, the mime, the king joker, vampire, and the card that gives you 3x mult if you have 16 boosted cards. The way to feed this run is to get the midas joker first so you can bank 100 gp before feeding all those cheap gold upgrades to the vampire. Eventually you start steeling the kings and then duping them with tarot cards like strength and death.
My only complaint was I had 3 solid synergy jokers, but I felt like I coulda gone further if I'd pulled the steel joker and maybe the campfire joker since my econ was so insanely high by the end. In any event, even with a suboptimal joker build, I was hitting billions of points so I wouldn't rate the steel joker too low. It definitely slots well into a solid king build.
This man never played the game seeing this tier list.
Normally I think Bull is pretty bad, but I just had a run where I got it to over 1200 chips, so it has some pretty impressive potential upside.
bull is crazy imo one of if not the fastest scaling chips, ik he clearly doesn't value scaling much but even still I was surprised to see the F
Bull and castle are tied for 2nd place chip cards to me behind stuntman
My first gold stake win was with flash card, castle, cloud nine, campfire and throwback. You have flash card and castle in D rank and throwback and campfire in C rank. Somehow though throwback seems to win every run I play with it. I think the truth is that the .25x you get from skips is going to be more beneficial than junk in a shop realistically most of the time. And skips can land money for charging flash cards. Getting a voucher for reduced rerolls can go super amazing with flash card and cloud nine. Vouchers and the skip buffs can alter the game massively for jokers. A person might think skips won't help the bull or bootstraps. Until you notice how many skips add money to sometimes absurd amounts. Giving chip, mult, and xmult in a single skip is almost broken. Throwback is S tier in my mind.
I've actually found hack to be a game winning card even on gold stake, but you often don't want it for sure. The thing is that gold stake being so hard sometimes means the 'feast or famine' cards are what you need to rely on. Cards which are reliable but less strong often run out of gas on gold stake I find.
Agreed. On the right deck it kind of goes crazy.
Nice list! My only major quibble is with seltzer. If synergizes very well with using Tags and can get you through a couple bosses in a row quite rapidly. I’d put this in A tier for getting thru ante 8
Does hiker work with re triggers
38:20 I wouldn't call this a bug. The first vampire destroys the enhancement, so there's no enhancement for the second one to consume. Works exactly like the text on the card says.
I meant if you have Vampire - Midas - Vampire. Second Vampire still won't work.
I don't think I realized that Stencil Joker worked for itself. So what would happen if you have Blueprint and Brainstorm copying Stencil? Of if you used Invisible Joker to copy Stencil?
My first win came from Ceremonial dagger. Fair enough i had got the LUUUCK with 2 polychrome jokers, but by ante 6 i had the dagger eat like 4 jokers i werent using, then by the end of ante 8 i was blowing the game out of the water when i had the dagger eat a super value joker that didnt work with the deck.
I do agree, it takes its time to wind up, but i think theres merit to it early game since you can eat random jokers per round for multi. Then blueprinted it when it was giving 200x multi.
I appreciate you trying to rank them all and overall a good job but man do I disagree about a few of these! Maybe I’ll try to make my own this is a fun challenhe
Swashbuckler + egg is a great early game carry without sacrificing any power for the egg
I really want to have a paradolia, gold mask, vampire run.
Super nova is incredible in high card builds if you get it early. Been my best friend for beating gold stake. Really consistent performer if you get it in ante 1 or 2.
The great thing is you can even get it later on and it's awesome since it's retroactive.
How do you get out of early ante's without dying while procing up high card for supernova?
@@abdulazizmohammed8797 Chips jokers, especially scaling stuff like square joker or wee joker + supernova is usually good enough.
Super nova is great with high card only if you can escape The Eye
@@sunlightswift You can usually deal with the boss by playing a pair or two pair alongside high card. Most high card decks play two to three of these hand types and build up some supernova value on all of them. It is a noticeable weakness though, which is why augmenting supernova with a second flat mult joker isn't bad.
steel and mime being so low is wild to me. Steel cards have carried me through almost all my runs, and those jokers make them insane.
Riff raff goes decent with campfire, but I think campfire is fun. Gives me dark souls vibes.
Maybe early on, but the problem with Riff Raff is that you would need to be running with 2 open joker slots to get the full value out of it. The best synergy would probably be Vagabond, effectively giving you +0.5x mult for each hand played (which scaling jokers like Ride The Bus and Green Joker also want to do anyways).
Interesting that you only have a total of 3 jokers in S and A tier that add flat mult.
Not that I necessarily disagree, but beating ante 8 will likely require a flat mult joker most of the time. Just means most runs will require lower tier jokers.
To The Moon is the Seed Money voucher, but it takes up a joker slot.
The tier list is very well done but i have to say i disagre with some jokers like ancient joker,madness,baron and trousers i think could be a C tier joker. And i really don t know how Erosion got so high💀
You're sleeping on chips homie
Mime with steel cards is so good though right, or with Baron or shoot the moon
Mime + Baron is god tier... for endless. For winning ante 8 I agree with Dan, these are pretty meh.
Had a mime and shoot the moon with aces high on purple stake a couple days ago that went super well. standard packs and spectrals were getting me enough of aces and queens so I played a single five of a kind aces with three queens to win a violet vessel. Had one xmult but can't remember which one it was. I think I had the joker for extra hand sizes for -hand. So it allowed more queens to trigger. If someone gets extra hand size and a good amount of queens, mime is easily a better pick than all but a few xmult cards.
He’s here to lay down the law
Throwback anywhere but S tier is probably one of the worst takes I've ever seen of this game. The value you get by skipping at the correct moments, especially on higher difficulties when you need to preserve the perishable jokers for a boss makes me think he hasn't played much orange and up.
Rating is super inconsistent, simultaneously undervaluing and overvaluing cards that do v similar things (esp with increasing chips, and some basic scaling).
The ramen snub is also unreal, one of the best build completer cards, and slots in with just about everything. I even picked one up with an eternal burnt joker I already had, and it put in some major work on ante 6-8, and is pretty much always a great pickup even for a couple crucial hands.
I need to watch how he plays more to actually understand what's going through his brain, because judging by this tier list I have no idea what he's cooking with some of these ratings.
“It’s pretty bad” 😂
I love this game, because even the F tier jokers are used. You just gotta make di with what you have sometimes.
I’ve still never seen Cavendish after playing Gros Michel in countless runs.
Really? I see it most of the times I play Gros Michel long enough to not die, simply because Cavendish is also a common joker, and you cycle through jokers a lot. You don't often get it before Ante 5 though.
@@greZerg It's literally never came up after the banana split regardless of how deep I go.
In 40 hours of playtime, many spent with the 'nana, I haven't seen it either.
Uhhh this list....😅 For me there would be a general rule I'd give for a card tier, like :
Any card that allows you to add the multiplication of the miltiplications should have a baseline of A tier
Any card that allows you to add chips and mults should have a baseline B tier
You know what I mean?
Some of these choices just seem weird. How is Mystic Summit (+15 mult when no discards) in D, while Drunkard (+1 discard) is in B? How the heck did you put the lucky cat joker above drivers license?! And what did Pants do you to deserve being put in D tier?
And wow, that Merry Andy placement is just...I'm wondering if it was meant to troll people, lol. Like, sure you get more discards, but because your hand size is lower, you're going to be discarding one less card every discard! Putting it above Fibbonacii, baseball card and card sharp is a crime against humanity, lol.
Hand size is overrated. Cat scales and license takes time to meet the requirements so can be bad early game, especially if you pick it early and then you are trying to build your deck and your jokers when you should really be focused on one ir the other and x3 multi is not great without a good accompaniment of synergistic jokers. mystic runs out of utility as soon as you see almost any other multi card, one holo joker or have some empress enhanced cards.
And several times I had to remind myself that hael said his tier list is about beating ante 8 boss as I also found myself wondering about the choices lol
I thought Ceremonial Dagger was good
Riff Raff should be a Voucher
Way too op
@@allanthomson9372 Make it generate one a turn then.
I wish blueprint and brainstorm counted as a stencil when copying stencil. Would give it a strong use case. Imagine stencil with 5 copies, getting 5^5 mult lol.
Edit: I wish 8 ball wasn’t nerfed from the demos. It used to give tarot or planet, which was still not great but way better than it is now.
8-ball in the first demo was only Tarots, it was Superposition that gave either
Dusk D tier? I think is not reliable in every deck but is one of the best endless with glass cards
This tier list was about beating ante eight, not its use in endless.
@talonnolan even in ante 8 is a good joker, you can go for stone cards... its 500 chips just with 5 stones with this joker alone in last hand
this guy put ancient joker and superposition in f tier lol
campfire c tier lol
I should really group this comments sorry:
Just unlocked Perkeo while watching this Tier List and died with it, and gotta say, it feels as bad as you described it lmao
I almost always have +16 cards on Ante 8 so your drivers license placement was kinda rough x)
Unpopular opinion Flower Pot should trigger with just one Wild Card in the hand, since it's all the suits at the same time (maybe it does and I haven't checked lmao)
Reserved Parking iirc is per hand played and not per round
Lmao I always pick Baron, I think it's a pretty easy win condition if you know how to play the game xD
Weirdly, I think Shortcut is better than Four Fingers. Why? Because with Four Fingers, you are cutting yours score by playing one less card in the hand, but with shortcut you still play a fifth card plus I think it even easier to get straights with Shortcut than with Four Fingers, since you don't really need to go (A - 3 - 5 - 7 - 9) and you can do stuff like (A - 2 - 4 - 6 - 7)
It is also worh considering for splash that you can utilize joker effects or bonus card effects even if they don't belong to the hand you're playing, which could be pretty good. For example you could glass card a card you don't really want in your deck and use it to add mult to hands you do wanna keep, and just use it too boost hands, it can become pretty good for early difficulties from my plays.
I think Egg + Temperance is also something absurdly broken once you have a +20$ egg
There you go all organized an pretty.
BLAH! square, green and rtb are all B teir atleast c
Bruh. You need to play this more
200+ hours in, relax man it's just a tier list lol.
@Haelian lol. Idk why but I felt personally attacked when square joker was put in F. Used to watch you when Hades was a thing. Glad to see you're still making content, but you're sleeping on chips bro.
Wow... that's a lot of wrong opinions!
Campfire is S! BLAHHHH
The fact that the devs expect some people to get golden stickers on all jokers is insane. The achievement still sits at 0.0% on Steam. Some of these jokers are impossible to get to the finish, its never gonna happen
Yep! Between Jokers that are active hindrances, dead weight Jokers, self-destructing Jokers, synergy killers, and you're basically playing on a Platinum Stake to get Gold Stake with every Joker. This is BEFORE all the handicaps that come with playing on Gold Stake.
Erosion is certainly F tier.
Had a magic deck run where I got erosion and a hangman right after. Used the two fools for more hangmans. It went to +24 mult and next shop got a spectral with immolate, bringing erosion to 44 mult in the 2nd anti. It was only black stake I think but that run went stupid easy. So I think erosion works real well with magic deck cause a single hangman brings it to +24 mult and one more is already as good as two abstracts. Many jokers gain significant benefit with specific decks
This is an incredibly shit tier list
this game really needs a feature that lets you turn off certain jokers. more than half of these are C tier or below, and I constantly get screwed over on runs by pulling jokers that are just straight up useless. there’s too much reliance on rng and not enough on planning and strategy, and that often makes it very tedious to play.
thats the point of the game, turning off certain jokers would make it easier.
Thats how rogue-likes work. Every run is different so there's always rng but you need low rolls, and lots of them, to make the high rolls actually feel rewarding to get.
I think that's the point of this game. It's a mix of gambling, strategy, and roguelike.
Also, sometimes those shitty jokers make you think more creatively to make them work. And when they do work, it's dopamine rushhour.
If you're having trouble with RNG, go check out Balatro University's channel and start watching from the beginning of the Balatro Daily Series
It totally changed how i approach the game
I'd love to be able to pay money to banish a joker for the rest of the run