What if You Started with TWO Legendary Jokers???
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- Опубликовано: 16 ноя 2024
- Seed: D38IYHIA
Balatro is a poker roguelike deck building game centered around creating powerful synergies and winning with big hands. In it, you can combine valid poker hands with unique Jokers in order to create varied synergies and builds. Earn enough chips to beat blinds, including challenging boss blinds, to make it to the next ante and progress your run!
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My favourite ghost deck run was when I picked up a ankh so I could double my foil joker in the next shop, and then lost to big blind ante 1 😏
lmao
Hi, I'm just gonna point out the ridiculous size of "e" numbers, using an example at 1:30:52 .
So what Roffle said was "I don't need that many more points".
Let's examine that: Roffle had 9.550e23 points. He needed 8.400e25 points. To many people this understandably looks like the numbers are of a similar size. So lets write them out.
955,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 is the amount of points he had.
84,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 is the amount of points he needed.
As you can see now that it's written out, the second number has two more zeros in it. So the number of points he needed is roughly 100 times bigger than the number of points he had.
In other words, when Roffle said "I don't need that many more points", Roffle had about 1% (one percent) of the points he actually needed. And I just can't believe he'd lie to us like that.
And of course this is not actual criticism of anything Roffle did. He played this much better than I could have based on deck management alone. And in case you are reading this: That was one of the most entertaining 90 minutes I've spent watching a youtube video in a while and I wish I was there to see it live. It was a real treat :)
Exponentials are so unintuitive lol, crazy how bad humans are at understanding big numbers
That said though, the strategy with this build is exponential, and a 100x increase is only 7 more doublings, or one other good joker.
@@rodolfoinnocentirisaliti To be fair, we never really need to know numbers of that caliber unless you're in a field that requires it which isn't many lol.
@@NStripleseven of course. All builds of this calibre rely on exponentials. And Roffle did exceptionally well building the deck. The number of Red seal glass polychrome queens he aquired without DNA is incredible.
And I think he used 5 of them in a couple hands, so what that hand scored is the limit of what is possible with this build. The only way to get more score would be to gdt a negative selzer or something
Wow, thanks! That really puts the numbers in perspective. At a certain rate is just seems almost nonsensical with the values that can be reached.
Had this in an unseeded run, was super fun getting it. I worked really hard to try and make the whole deck polychrome steel kings + retrigger face cards joker + blueprints, and ended up getting I think to Ante 17 or so before I ran out of steam. Unfortunately didn't get higher hand size, so less steel card procs.
The fact this run enters endless only a third of the way into the video’s runtime either bodes insanely well for how hard this build popped off, or there’s a second run in this video. Either way, 90 minutes of Roffle is a good way to spend an evening.
It feels like every seeded run is just "ghost deck copy crazy joker" It's not bad and it's certainly fun i just wish people were finding crazy seeds with different decks. EDIT: In hindsight it's clear the Ghost Deck has the most consistent potential for fun and crazy runs, unlike just starting with like 10 extra dollars. But still.
theres an erratic deck seed where every card is the 10 of spades which is pretty sick too
I ran this with the plasma deck and got to 9.8e58 so I would argue it’s even stronger there
I mean he literally has only played two or three seeded runs.. play ur self then instead of whining lol.
the seed is the same for every deck. So you could use the same seed with a different deck to get the same shenanigans
Prob some fun crazy stuff possible with the plasma deck and some joker combos
Im happy to see the comments actually critisize this run, that just means that they all watch this run all the way from the start to the end truly "legendary" run
Definetly one of the most entertaining episodes on this channel so far!
He did hit the wheel once but it hit the invisible joker
Just did this seed and it was so much fun! Didn’t get the copy of sock and Buskin but I did get a tiki idol which once you remove everything else except copies of the card you play, is essentially another legendary. I only made it a ante past Roffle but I ended up getting the extra joker voucher but dying immediately after so if you can find a blueprint, you can make it a lot farther I bet.
Taking the Photograph at 33:00 was a strange move?
It only adds x2 to the score while the hanging chad redraws the jokers for x8
Effectively the photograph is a x16 considering all jokers and the hanging chad was an x64
Yeah I think he was thinking about how Photograph was better than Smiley Face, but sort of confused that with hanging chad
Almost, seltzer doesn't add value to ballot but photograph gets value so it's 4x for the seltzer rounds, but I get your point
Also consider this. Brainstorm copying sock and buskin with triboulet is x2³⁰ and copying triboulet is also x2³⁰ but if you are copying the sock and buskin with the hanging chad it's x2³² but copying triboulet x2³³. Now copying sock and buskin with photograph is also x2³³ so are they the same?
I don't think so, because we also have to consider polychrome. With polychrome the copying the sock and buskin becomes the obvious choice. And the hanging chad is slightly worse with copying sock and buskin. Here's the calculation. Photograph with copying sock and buskin with the first card being a polychrome x2³³*1.5³ and hanging chad would be x2³²*1.5⁴. And the photograph seems to be better. If we copy triboulet the hanging chad would be x2³³*1.5³. Still the same though. Now if we add one more polychrome to the calculation I think it becomes pretty obvious.
So with photograph and 2 polychromes x2³³*1.5⁶
With the hanging chad it's either x2³²*1.5⁷ or x2³³*1.5⁵ which are both worse.
So I think photograph is actually better in late game.
@@lörpistelijä why the fuck do i only ever get the notis for people saying slurs at me and not the cool mathy stuff like this
Watching that jump when Seltzer came into play was something special
With all these Roffle videos, I get to start every day with at least one legendary joker
After all those Wheels and it happened. I applaud you for staying as unfazed as you did.
Let's boost these Roffle Balatro videos! Well done!
yes, I think you can get negative jokers in packs, because they show up in the shop sometimes as well. I feel like their occurrence rate is like half that of polychrome.
Also, moving one of the legendary jokers to the far left would have been a bit higher math.(when they have the red seal)
It's the difference of each queen getting triggered four times, times-16'ing the mult each time, versus each queen getting triggered five times, times-8'ing the mult each time. Except... I didn't account for the glass also... so actually it's exactly the same each way Lol.
1:24:18 move the triboulat to the brainstorm zone to get (3/trigger)*3trigger triggering a.
Seeing him passing up DNA multiple times was rough to see especially when he as Brainstorm to basically always get +1 Poly Red Queen.
It was very satisfying watching you shape your deck there at the end.
53:07 polychrome is just flat better at the end, because it gives a lot more Xmult to a much larger number.
I'm so glad I discovered this channel of Roflle's. I stopped watching anything that had to do with Hearthstone and discovered this channel in my feed AFTER I watched Day9s video on this game and I'm exceedingly happy I get to enjoy this fantastic game with my original favorite Hearthstone content creator. Let's goooo!
i literally had a run exactly like this right around when this was uploaded, got to ante 17 had blueprint and brainstorm then pulled a sock and buskin
Never enough Balatro from Roffle!
The smiley face is SO much better than photograph since photograph only triggers for the first one played, and smiley adds 5 before the next multiplication every single time. Once you get sock and buskin, it makes things wild
A negative DNA and negative baron… imagine what could have been.
I've took the seed and going to mess with it. I think (maybe) this is an e50 seed. Its definitely an e40 seed. Ecto on trading card killed his forward movement, as did staying on queens. Going kings opens idol possibilities later of you can find it and focusing on flush 5s can boost his money for rerolling shop.
Played a couple runs and got 4.250e48. I'm not sure how much more you can get out of it.
Ended the run with 3 sock (1neg), the 2 tribs, brainstorm, blueprint, smiley (1neg) and a Chad. Went lucky red seal K♤ into glass late on. There is an idol early on but it's hard to hold while you build the deck. Popping and idol late could get the e50.
Fun run though.
I actually had a very similar run without using a seed it was really sick
To be clear, the ante that killed him was 10 thousand times bigger than his score.
e31 is 10 thousand times larger than e27
e31 is 10 thousand times bigger than e27, not 100 thousand times.
whoops i counted 10 twice for some reason thanks man@@ysqure3
WOW I never knew the Wheel could be so meannnn GG
7:48 that was not only almost a Straight Flush, but almost a Royal Straight Flush as well :0
What other kind of royal flush is there than straight?
@@andrewf8366 I dunno, ask the queen's toilet cleaners.
"Royal straight flush" 😂😂 when it's called a royal flush and is valued exactly the same as a straight flush in this game.
@@cheekibreeki6255 Royal Flush is just short for Royal Straight Flush, which is the real name of the hand. It's just a naming convention. In normal poker, the only reason the Royal Straight flush is worth more than a normal Straight Flush is because the cards are higher. They're essentially the same hand.
@@Pink_MaggitYeah and royal flush is 5 specific cards so it's harder to hit than a normal straight flush, which has many more possible combinations to achieve in comparison since you can have A-5, 2-7, 8-Q, etc. etc. so in poker the harder it is to assemble the hand the more it's worth. Royal flush is just the fancy term and less syllables than royal straight flush.
Really cool to see a flush house build, have been wanting to see someone pull that off for ages :)
1:31:37 Truly no one is unluckier than Roffle
Question I'll probably never get answered. Why the re mic over something like sm7b?
Not hitting an 840k blind while scoring e17 hands is a bit like Jeff Bezos going broke after eating at McDonalds.
There's about a million grains of salt in a cup, and about 1.3e15 atoms in the moon. You're slamming down killer hands two orders of magnitude higher than the number of atoms in the moon to get grains of salt in a cup. I think you're gonna nail that blind. This seed is no joke, I gotta try it out.
Splash would have been a good idea because you could play anything with Kings and Wueens in it
I had a run where i got stencil joker early and then duplicated him. What's weird is that if you have more then one stencil joker they don't count as taking a joker slot so they each give x5 instead of x4. I then found a brainstorm which resulted in 3 stencil jokers each giving x4. I added card sharp which dropped the stencil jokers to x3 but resulted in x27 for the first hand but x81 for the second hand.
I wonder if the Wheel of Fortune is picking one of the cards you've got, then rolling, and if the card is already Polychrome it goes "NOPE"? That would make the chance more like 3/20, which is closer to what we've seen in this run.
Nah, Wheel just ignores cards that it can't hit. You can't take it if all Jokers have a modifier.
that seed is insane holy
Riffle’s wheel of fortune chances are not 1 in 4, but 1 in 400
What mod is that to make the clubs and diamonds a different color? Or is it a built in color feature in the game?
high contrast cards in gameplay settings. not a mod
Seeing him risk glass cards when he could win with just a pair is always horrifying despite the fact he still makes it to Antes I could only dream of reaching
Roffle: Why isn't it possible?!
Wheel of fortune: It's just not.
Roffle: Why not you stupid bastard?!
Seriously, the ONE time wheel worked was on the joker that you sell to copy another random joker and that's it. I don't even want to go back and count how many failed because it had to have been dozens. Nice run though, those were some huge numbers.
i shit you not i had a run in which the start i had gotten triboulet with an ankh, was probably the craziest run of my life.
Relay Knight and Hook
Yeah I lost at ante 19 (e36) and now trying with plasma I got e22 on ante 3(e70 at end(without any red seal))
Also,might be the unluckiest wheel of fortune seed but the luckiest gros michel seed( banana) I had it for four antes and had to sell it😅😅
wouldn’t it have been more beneficial to copy the effect of hanging chad instead of triboulet? because then you’re technically procking triboulet 10 times total instead of 9
What's making the clubs a pastel blue in this video? I'm colourblind and being able to identify clubs easier would be so nice
High contrast cards in the game settings
@@RoffleLite I don't know why I never tried that, thank you so much!
Roffle didn't take the rocket to the moon, I can't believe henwould betray us like that by making what is almost certainly the right play. Shame
I was screaming. Even if he just takes it for 3 rounds and sells it it's net positive. But he then went on with an open joker slot for idk how many rounds
Hello, thanks for your all videos. The game looking so easy on your videos. I tried more 50 times and i never find "the soul" in my spectral pack, why ? i can not undertand. Same in your others videos. Good for you
also how come the game didn't simply put spade blocking boss with all those spades?
Relay Knight Aand Hook
Wait.. the shop at 8:20.. is that not a blueprint joker???? Like he could have the quad triboulet run there.
That's Astronomer and Green Joker.
i think copying triboulet is better but i havent double checked my math
edit: double checked my math i was wrong
edit: triple checked i was right, assuming polyglass red seal, each card is either 12^5 with the extra retrigger or 24^4 with the extra triboulet. difference of about 10x on 5 cards
Not sure I follow the numbers you're giving but I agree with your result. Here's my numbers. The only thing that matters in this question is "how many xMULT triggers per card?" as all other values are either unaffected or negligible. Assuming 5 poly glass red seal queens for all calculations. Having fewer of those makes tribulet even better. The affect of which card is copied can be represented by "mult = 2^(5 * E * T) * 1.5^(5 * T)", where E is the number of X2 effects per trigger and T is number of triggers.
Case 1: Copy sock & buskin
5 triggers per card (base, 3 sock, red seal). Per trigger: 2 tribulet, 1 glass, 1 poly, giving three X2 mult effects per card trigger. Plug it into the equation (E=3 and T=5) we get
"2^(5 * 3 * 5) * 1.5^(5 * 5)" ≈ 9.5e26
Case 2: Copy tribulet
4 triggers per card (base, 2 sock, red seal). Per trigger: 3 trib, 1 glass, 1 poly, giving four X2 mult effects per card trigger. Plug it into the equation (E=4 and T=4) we get
"2^(5 * 4 * 4) * 1.5^(5 * 4) ≈ 4.0e27"
Roughly 5x more points copying tribolet. Would've been better to copy it at all or almost all stages of the game. The extra chips from the extra trigger acts like a ~1.05x mult (I'm probably overestimating it) and thus fails to influence the outcome.
For reference, the easy way to calculate this in real time is just balance the number of triggers and effects. 3 and 5 isn't balanced, 4 and 4 is. You probably learned in geometry that the rectangle is biggest when the sides make a square, it's the same thing here, 4*4 is bigger than 3*5, so all you need to do during runs is keep the numbers balanced. If you can't perfectly balance them then lean towards triggers if you have any poly, lean towards effects otherwise.
TL;DR: I agree copying tribolet was better, here's my work shown & a rule of thumb to follow
@@wakfi_ when i say 12^5 per card, thats (2*2*2*1.5)^5, or 2 triboulet, 1 glass, 1 poly per trigger, and 5 triggers. I do know about balancing triggers and effects, I just got lost in the weeds a bit
Early for a Roffle video????? LFG
16:02 why did hanging chad only retrigger once
I tried playing this seed and it gave me something different. I got canio after the first blind and no spectral after the second. Still good but wondering why its different?
same. might be a patch thing
Shows deck and gets satisfied on stream
I tried using this seed today and I keep getting Canio for my spectral joker... weird. Playing on the new patch, perhaps that changed older seed #s?
same
Holy hell, this is where the "Suck my Buskin" is from!
new response just dropped
Photograph was better at 19:10 because the value stacka up much faster than smiley face.
With smiley face the calculation for the first card would be ((6*2+4)*2³+4)*2² = 528 or ((10*2+4)*2³+4)*2² = 784
The calculation for photograph is 6*2⁸ = 1536 or 10*2⁸ = 2560
As you can imagine the next plus fours are pretty inconsequential after that.
the plus fours get multiplied by the triboulets tho
so i think its still better
Let's say he plays a full house with only mult cards 3 kings and 2 queens.
Each queen and king gives x8 mult because its x2³, except the first one which triggers twice .
Smiley face in this scenario would be: (((((14×8+8)×8+8)×8+8)×8+8)×8+8)×8 = 3,969,600
And photograph would be: (((((10×16+4)×16+4)×8+4)×8+4)×8+4)×8 = 10,766,624
37:38 Kreygasm
why are the clubs in his videos have different colors?
he toggled the high contrast setting to better accommodate viewers
Don’t understand why you don’t take the jacks when you can upgrade them to queen.
Once you have a made card (a poly queen is almost the best you can) you shouldnt take any cards except maybe purple seal. I just finished a run on this seed with 4.250e48. I took the queen and 1 purple, then didnt open any more standard packs. Got a few purplers in the shop but nothing else is worth it.
Was it 10 out of 10 misses?
He hit once, on the invisible joker. Which probably makes it worse.
If you knew that there were 2 more invis jokers coming, you could have gone so much further. I blind ran the seed before watching, and seeing you get that negative obelisk instead of negative invisible was painful.
Edit: both invisibles hit sock n bus. I didn't get third one, cuz i didn't know they were coming and so I was over joker limit with no way to neg
The fact he didn't take Dna and dupe the red poly queen and go even crazier blows my mind
no space, invis joker got him further than dna would have
9:19 a hung man and a hanged man mean VERY different things
RN HK?
I have this stigma that wheel of fortune isn't a 1/4 because there's been times when I don't hit it for like.. 20 times in a row...
YES!
11 :03 11:04 100% 34:47
He got 2 nopes. "No one can be unluckier than me" You got the median result
Yes, that was the joke.
11:03 11:04 100%
We are going to the E zone, babieeessss
Edit: I don't really get the appeal of glass card for any situation other than emergencies. It is a big mult, but you just dont want to play it. Wouldn't you rather just have it on any other card that you will play? At least I cant imagine wanting to put permanent upgrades like red seal on it.
Well, as you can see from the video, Roffle needed to be getting that huge mult from playing glass cards. If he hadn't had a bunch of red seal polychrome glass cards that he was playing, he would've just been dead in the water. It might be slightly better to have one red seal polychrome mult card and then four red seal polychrome glass cards in the ideal hand, and I think Baron + Mime + Red Seal Steel Kings can also be good if you can get enough hand size, but for the jokers Roffle had available to him glass cards were crucial.
12:39 1:06:01
29:40 why?
11:06 100%
WNLK7YAB This is a fun double polychrome yorik run seed.
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You're so unlucky with wheel of fate lol
11:06 100%b
my man skipped shoot for the moon -twice- -thrice- -fourice- fiveice with poly queens
Not much use to be fair. Normally it's a pick but with this load out it's only gonna add maybe 3%
Wait... I saw blueprint joker.... wtf if that was taken it just be silly
I had higher scores than you with this seed but I still lost at ante 17 because the boss debuffed hearts...
I did the same thing. Try K♤. I got e48 but if you can keep the idol e50+ is doable.
Lose on 10 wheels one Hit and it lands on Invisible Joker :DD
1:27:05
You’d win.
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it pains me to see him having suboptimal joker order half the time
Or putting poly queens second for most the game
Ive literally scored over double this on an unseeded run which is the funny thing. Steel cards op
Baron + mime + bean? I've hit e37 with that combo. Red seal steel kings and poly red glass aces. E60+ must have involved a LOT of nice negatives
I got fucking canio when I did it
no you didn't. that or you didn't use the wrong seed
RK HK
You got rid of the scary face card for constellation. Lmao. Wow.
there's no way in hell you seriously think that's not the right play
@@rajkanishu long term obviously constellation is great but the chip multiplier had better utility short term. with mult being so high it makes the numbers marginally bigger with more chip score.
@@EpicPetWars8Aqworldswe are talking adding 20% max with scary. That's 2 planets. I would say it was the play.
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