This is great for someone who really likes the new edge style and doesn't care about trying to be a racer boy. Like upgrading an old classic muscle car. Make it sound good with enough power to burn the tires and have a good time on a weekend cruise with the wife to a car show. No matter how much money you waste there will always be someone with a faster and better looking car than you. Most people spend years dumping tens of thousands into a project car then when they finally get it perfect they usually sell it and start all over again. An endless cycle of insanity.
Very well said! I couldn't agree more. Especially with this platform you can burn thousands real quick and still not have a fast car. The newedge style is and will be one of the best ever made IMO!
@@dankbonkripper2845 lmaoo you came late I bought a 2011 gt already so far I’m at 105k miles and still dropping mods on it since it’s my daily and I’m already building a 3v 😂
Exactly, say what you will, but those motors sound like a classic muscle car period. For some reason the Camaro/Firebird don’t have that sound despite having over 1.0 liter more of displacement.
Fun fact alot don't know the bullet mustang ford actually tuned the exhaust to sound like the Steve McQueen mustang the 03 04 mach1 they tuned the exhaust to sound like a 428 cobra jet so yes I'd have to agree they sound much like a muscle car. My experience the 2v while not the most powerful they are very tough and forgiving the 4v I've only had 1 still have it an so far it's been very temperamental.
Yeah the Fox 5.0 and the New Edge 4.6 both are among the absolute best sounding of all time. I have a new edge with long tubes, Xpipe and flowmasters and a friend has a 5.0 fox and they both sound similar and excellent! I’ve had some 4th gen F bodies and they don’t sound nearly as good but I’ve had a couple that sounded good and had great power but these Mustangs just sound so much better! My F body handled much better but just wasn’t as much fun to drive as my new edge. It just feels so much lighter probably because it is smaller and lighter. You can just throw the new edge around easier. It just teaches you better car control in my opinion and experience. I love both cars equally but the Stang is just way more fun no doubt!
I also went on Modular Head shops web sight and wow. They described what you touched on with great detail. Cams, gears, degreeing for you etc. I’m saving for cams and hopefully they’ll ship to Detroit!
Excellent video! Just my .02 after messing with these cars for over 20 years. Going to the bolt on route will nickel and dime you to death for very minimal gains. You'll spend thousands and MAYBE make 300 hp. The most cost effective way to make decent power in these cars is to just boost them. You can easily find used Vortech or Procharger kits for 2-2500 bucks. Install it with bigger fuel pump and injectors and go get it tuned. 400+ HP every time. The car will behave like a bone stock car with excellent drivability but have lots of power on demand.
Hey Ken thanks! I completely agree it's a lot of money for not a lot of power. Boost is the way to go. I bought an alternator from you and showed it in a more recent video, loving it! My now fully built internal turbo 2v should be ready in 2 weeks
For all you peeps that want some power for your 2v, if you want a big cam, you NEED to buy other things to maximize all the money you spent on the cam. You’re gonna need heads, intake, exhaust and a tune. If you just throw the cam, it really wont do a ton on its own. But this is al after you basically do a tune up and bullet proof the engine if you can. More than average power on an engine that hasn’t been treated well or restored to its factory potential is either gonna disappoint with its power gains or something is gonna break. But otherwise, a really good vid.
A lot of people run that set up! I'm a fan of the SLP 1's except at WOT it just sounds straight piped and not great. But with a nice set of cams and idle / around town driving you can't beat it
@@RatchetWrenches yeah, they are quite acquired taste for sure. I love my loud raspy exhaust. Lol. Something about these two valves, the sound they make matches no other mustang for me. I don't really care that it's hard to pass 300 or 350 horsepower with them, the sound is what won me over.
Man my old LS1 Trans Am had a custom ground 230/236 cam, FAST 90 intake and 90mm throttle body, long tubes, and put down 400rwhp and ran an 11.89@118mph on slicks and skinnies. Good times.
Although the 2v doesn't make as much horse as the newer 3v or the new coyote they still run good and are awesome cars I have a 2010 3 valve I love it but I'm looking for a 2v to daily drive I was in high school when the two-valve 4.6 Mustang came out and back then 260 horse was great everybody wanted one nice car awesome video bro
Zex makes a good kit too that’ll get you there lol. I’m actually looking for an old 2v new edge to start working on. Almost done with my 3v build now. Idk I guess I just like a challenge and don’t want a car note for a new coyote. You should see these camaro ss guys around here faces when I’m pulling away from them with a slow ass 3v. Haven’t put the 3v on the dyno but last week it ran a 12.8 @ 113mph on motor. With a terrible 2.12 60ft hoping for 11.5’s on a 100 shot may have to go up to 125. Still waiting for my nitrous tune from Lito now. Right now the car pretty much has every bolt on they make including hot rod cams still need an aluminum drive shaft. Just installed an adjustable rear upper and bracket rear lower relocation brackets and adjustable lowers and a stiffer panhard bar so hopefully next time out my 60ft will be a little better. Plan on doing about the same thing with a new edge except I’ll probably go with a centrifugal super charger instead of n2o
Well I ended up getting an 02 gt convertible one owner with 76k miles. 100% bone stock when I got it but I been busy. First I just lowered it tinted the windows and cut the mufflers off lol. Got a cold air intake, bbk 78mm plenum/tb nx nozzle wet kit on a 125 shot right now using a sct iTSX to tune it. I planned on doing cams but cam across a good deal on a 2.1 Kenne bell kit, some longtubes, performance automatic shift kit, fti 2800rpm stall and a set of cheap coil overs are all currently sitting in my garage just waiting for the time to do it all. But honestly with just the cai, plenum/tb and nitrous I think it’s doing pretty good. It went 12.6@101mph the other day on the street. Just have some 315/35/17 nitto 555g2 tires think it would do even better with a drag radial. Track opens back up this coming Wednesday and I borrowed my buddys drag pack. So we will know in just a few days what it’ll do ima keep the 125 shot to start but if all goes well ima make a hit or two with a 150 shot. I’ll jump back in here and update though.
Fun cars. Start with intake and exhaust (shop) get to know some local car guys and ask some questions. Suspension and a wider tire 10.5 rim (315 tire) is a good first mod. Short throw shifter, gears, those are great ways to start modding in a simple way and allows you to be hands on if you want. There aren’t many of these cars that are left stock, if you’re looking to buy one, save up a couple thousand cash for some first mods.
I've built and rebuilt quite a few of these mods motors over the years. Thing to do is grab an explorer block and drop 80lbs off the front of these cars if you want to stay 2v. If you have the equipment degreeing even the factory cams can get you a good bump if you don't have the money for AM cams. However with the 3v 4.6s getting so cheap now that's what i go to. Do a CMP delete and throw in some aftermarket cams with lock outs and the 2v computer can be tuned to run it no problem. Last 3v I did with stage 1 cams and long tubes made 324rwhp at 6800and 295rwt at around 4900. Ended up with 4.30 gears and that thing was fun to drive.
Extend the back springs, and leave the same springs you have right now on the front. It gives it a more straight up bullet look, it might also fix the x-pipe issue for it touching the ground
Port the heads when doing the cams. Keep the stock exhaust manifold. Don't lower the car that low..Gears and good tires super important. Get a dynamic tune. And, don't forget your suspension better shocks struts, springs combo, upgrade control arms and poly bushing everywhere. Maybe an adjustable panhard bar after lowering car and better brake pads and rotor. Now your good to go.
Yea TF heads or ported stock heads definitely will help free up the air flow. I like the car that low so I'm keeping it that way but I'll definitely be upgrading the suspension components probably this summer. Also gotta upgrade the brakes when you upgrade power!
I rebuilt a 1997 convertible with stock cams , valves and BBK shorty headers ,, 75mm intake and 5000 watt Apple sound system ,, great cruiser cars on 87 octane ,, good on gas and easy cheap Mods
New to the channel, loving the GT videos I'm looking to put the same cams in my crown vic, your videos definitely helped show what I can expect out of my 4.6
I've never done this... but would it be easier and cheaper to swap a 5.0 in? Both mod motors and a youtube guy said all the accessories bolt right on including motor mounts and a/c. The costs are the motor and the wiring or whatever. I think he said like 2000? For thr wiring/comp kit plus the engine. I think he said the trans bolts up as well. 400 plus hp sounds killer. Love to have 300 hp! Mines stock 99 black vert annv package 5 speed. Dull paint.
Wouldn't say easier or cheaper. From when I researched the swap to do it correctly people were saying all said and done you're looking around $10k give or take depending on a lot of factors. And this is to do it the right way. I'm sure you could cut corners but you'll get what you pay for. I've always just enjoyed the 2v platform and the sound they make personally. Obviously the power is much better stock on a 5.0 just comes with a price tag
Its all in the heads man. Alot of die hard mustang guys would do the explorer head swaps back in the day with a port and polish on the heads+ cam just to hang with a stock ls
I wouldn't say it's all in the heads but the heads are known to flow pretty poorly that's why trickflow was so successful. Eventually, I'll probably have them ported out but for now I'm going to see how the car can perform on non ported PI heads!
All GT's have a limited slip.. they just use a clutch/friction type limited slip not a viscous or torsen. hence the clutches wear out and the consistency of the locking decreases. they make better clutches that last a lot longer and are stronger, they are more predictable than a VLSD but still not quite as good as a Torsen type LSD.
Good video, I would probably add a new set of heads so that it utilizes the cams more. The second would be a new upper intake manifold as well like the trick flow. Last thing I would add is a new billet flywheel, it really frees up rotational mass allowing the engine to rev faster. Keep up the great content!
Thank you! Yeah I've heard trick flow heads are one of the best. I'll definitely be doing that once I go forced induction. Makes sense with the billet flywheel too thanks for the tips!
Those heads are crazy expensive... $2,380 for the heads .. no cams , no lifters , no rocker arms, ... still would need to buy new timing chain set, gaskets , .... it gets crazy expensive instantly.. but should make 310+hp
@Tyler Hawk yeah.. but unfortunately the stock pi heads have a low ceiling when it come to performance... seems like most people hit the 280-290rwhp barrier with stock unported heads .. even seen alot of people still under 300 with ported heads... trick flow heads are the only real option for 300+hp n/a .. but thats a good $3,000 for heads cams valvetrain .. I didn't even pay that much for my 96 gt lol.
I have a 99 Mustang Gt convertible 5 speed. It has Crower stage 2 cam's, underdrive pulleys, BBK cold air intake, BBK mass air and throttle body. Also BBK ceramic long tube headers into a BBK X-pipe with Flowmaster 3 chamber mufflers. The rear gear is a 3.73. It's tuned for premium fuel, It put down on the dyno 295 RWHP and 305 foot pounds of torque. Since then I've added MSD super blaster coils. I gotta tell you those coils with a higher spark woke up the car. It pulls much stronger working in conjunction with all the other bolt-ons. I'm curious what gains I've made. This car is fun to drive and the sound of those cams is music to a car guys ears!!! The cams alone was worth 29 horsepower. If you can afford it do it, you'll love the car even more!!
mm, you probably just replaced the 24 year old coil packs lol. I have seen 0(zero) dyno evidence of ignition coil packs gaining a significant amount over OEM packs. Unless, of course, there's a couple bad ones.
they have pretty good torque stock wise.i have stage 2 cams and stages heads along with a stroker kit capable of handling 600hp.i spent alot just with those upgrades.everthing lined up didn't have any valve to piston clearance issues the car is pretty quick with a stock Diablo tuned
These cars definitely do have some decent torque that's for sure! Unfortunately if you stay NA things get expensive fast and unless you do a stroker kit like you did the power isn't worth the money IMO
Great video, but you have to put the car in historical context. In 1999 a BMW M3 had 240 HP at the crank. I owned one new and still have it today. Short of a super car, the only vehicle that anything for me on the street was a Camaro/Firebird. I wanted a Firebird, unfortunately they were at least 5000 dollars more than a Mustang GT. Then one day I saw an Electric Green Mustang GT in the front line at Faulkner Ford. I was 22 and had to have it. Faulkner dissed me and I eventually bought my Electric Green 1999 GT from Brown Daub n Easton PA.
Nice video even though I'm late to the party. I'm mid build at the moment, 2004 Mustang GT 74k miles, put stage 3 cams, 78mm throttle body, new cold air intake, different ignition coils, 4:10 rear gears, SLP Loudmouth 1s, and I'm going to have it on the dyno and get a tune, should I get heavier injectors? Believe the stock ones are 19, just figured I'd ask, also, ballpark of hp I should be pushing?
Thank you! And that sounds like an awesome build I'm sure it'll sound really good too! I don't think you absolutely need injectors but slightly bigger ones with a bigger fuel pump could never hurt and probably would be a good idea while you're upgrading everything! That way you never run out of fuel. I remember my stock fuel pump crapped out on the dyno up top making 290RWHP. You should see 300 easy with that set up
If i had to do it all over again I would just go straight to a supercharger. My 01 bullitt went from 270whp to 430whp with a small pulley vortec and it changed the car drasticly
@@392Dizzo I pieced the kit together myself with a lot of upgraded parts. The kits they sell and without a bullitt intake manifold, you will most likely make under 400whp with the kits they sell, especially the cheaper none intercooled versions.
The 4.6 in my mustang got pulled from a 2009 police interceptor with 80,000. It's only intake, long tubes, and a tune but I never dyno'd it, probably a bit above 300
Interceptor has a 2v 4.6 just like the mustang... your 2v with listed mods probably is making 235hp if its auto, 245hp if its a manual ... + or - 5hp for both numbers ball park figure.
I think the hanging down issue is only with certain brands such as bbk, mac, I forget the others. I just ordered some ARH ones, I’ll update on ground clearance when I get em on
Appreciate the thought and comment but rn our channel is thriving ever since we boosted this thing. So we’re good 👍🏽 maybe one day we’ll add a 5.0 to the channel but rn it’s such a saturated market with everyone just doing 5.0 content
once u get a tubular k.member installing lt headers should be easy been down that road when I had shorty headers on pain in the ass with the stock kmember
about 217 on same cheap dynos but if u really want real. numbers the mustang dyno will hurt your feeling big time been there done it a few times.also getting 300hp is pricey I bought stages cams from comp cams and stages heads from patriot performance back In 2005 running super rich car made 285hp to the wheels without a tune.when it was tuned it ran stupid fast still have my 2v and ready for boost
Thanks for the break down. You going to get a new radiator? Alot of great aftermarket brands help your Stang run a little cooler we all know a cooler running engine is a more proficient engine.
@@RatchetWrenches cool a lot of people overlook keeping their engines cool. I think it is why a lot of people have issues that could be solved with a better radiator and a good water pump.
I agree the more power you add the more cooling you’ll want! People definitely overlook it and it causes some major heat soak and can ruin the cars performance and engine
Must be a different mid pipe you're running I've heard BBK hang a little low. But we're going turbo now so hopefully we don't have any issues with that now
I've been looking for cheaper solutions to getting the HP higher without doing a Coyote swap (even though the Coyote upgrades would give more HP). Isn't there a higher gear ratio available for the rear axle - like 4.2:1?
The V stands for valve. So 2v there are 2 valves per cylinder while 4v has 4 valves per cylinder. The GT's are 2v. There are 6-cylinder's, GT's, Mach 1's, and Terminator Cobras. Definitely Google it you can find all the info there it's a lot to explain in a comment
How much difference would you say using a canned tune for the TB and 93 octane would make for a car that’s manual transmission. I’m also guessing g the TB doesn’t do much in way of noticeable HP gains but will make more of a difference in how fast the car will rev to its peak curves making it feel quicker. Is that correct?
Coyote swaps are very common and a great starting point for a N/A build or if you wanna boost it also. To do it correctly is definitely not cheap though
The 2Vs don't make a lot of power but they are such good engines. I have beat the snot out of mine for years. And I mean beat on it. 4 transmissions, clutch kits, fuel pump, lots of tires and doing just dumb shit. All of that over the years and all I ever did was change oil and plugs. Motor still chugging along sounds good as it did when I bought it. It just hit 160k
Strange that a 1957 283 Chevrolet made 283 horsepower, now over forty years later a 4.6 2valve ford in a crown vic makes about a hundred horsepower less.
I'm doing the same cams, 75mm Plenum, UD pulleys, and I put in 12cc pistons, stock manifolds with bassani off road x pipe, flow master cat back, and 3.73s. I'm interested to see what it puts out.
That’s the thing about the new edge when you lower them. The exhaust scratches the pavement . That’s why on my mustang I don’t have a full exhaust no cats no mufflers just straight pipes coming out from side exhaust.not legal but who gives a shit when your in Texas lol
@@RatchetWrenches I know lol. The crappier part is they pass our strict emissions. They are just noisy which is illegal here. A money grab by the state.
Don't have to much experience with them and email tunes but generally for bolt ons email tunes will suffice, anything larger like a camshaft or FI I would recommend a dyno tune or sending data logs and remote tuning
@@RatchetWrenches mhs gen 2 it also has BBK shorts with BBK h pipe 373 gears I don't believe the heads are ported but not sure the previous owner did the pi swap
@@brandongrabinski6029 yeah that's a single plane intake design for high RPM you're going to kill all the low end power on a two valve which it's lacking anyway
I'm close to FBO I have kn CAI sr performance underdrive pulleys really helped my throttle response, msd coil packs, and Borla atak catback it just sounds mint
@@RatchetWrenches thanks man I really appreciate it follow me on insta and I will hit u with one back my @ is Redfire_jimmy I have a 03 redfire vert. Next step on my whip is coilovers instal my saleen body kit and then hit it with some cams an Intake plenum and mani and a tune but it’s gonna take a hot min before I get there haha
how much do you pay in insurance? looking to get a mustang when i come to the US next year btu im so scared of insurance becausze i know it can get super expensive in the US, will be insured with half coverage ( no point insuring a 7k car)
It's going to be completely different for everyone. I would call an insurance company to get a quote! It shouldn't be that expensive to insure for you I'd imagine
Long Tubes: www.americanmuscle.com/bbk-longtube-9604gt.html O/R xpipe they don't sell anymore due to EPA regs. Borlas: www.americanmuscle.com/borla-s-catback-99-04-gt.html
@@RatchetWrenches you and your friends seem cool man I used to live in Pennsylvania now im back down south in Mississippi but plan on coming back I wanna meet you and the guys and see the car in person! Lol
@@RatchetWrenches I had a 4.6 with stock gears that was running too rich and I calculated it was only making 13 MPG. It was a little too demanding on the finances for my liking.
This is great for someone who really likes the new edge style and doesn't care about trying to be a racer boy. Like upgrading an old classic muscle car. Make it sound good with enough power to burn the tires and have a good time on a weekend cruise with the wife to a car show. No matter how much money you waste there will always be someone with a faster and better looking car than you. Most people spend years dumping tens of thousands into a project car then when they finally get it perfect they usually sell it and start all over again. An endless cycle of insanity.
Very well said! I couldn't agree more. Especially with this platform you can burn thousands real quick and still not have a fast car. The newedge style is and will be one of the best ever made IMO!
I’ve done this many times and I just sold my car a week ago 😭
starts it up: “whistle”
me: welp
Lmaoo I was like cmon nowww hol up mannnn 😂
First mustang I ever rode in was a 2v, was hooked instantly. Bought a 2019 5.0 a year ago and have no regrets. Keep up the vids ill be watching
The new 5.0's are awesome too but it's something about a 2v! Thanks appreciate it
@@RatchetWrenches for me it’s a 3v that has my heart I’m buying a 2013 with 50k miles but if I ever blow the engine I want to put a 4.6 from a 2010 gt
@@pvrrpghxst7867 I'm begging you don't do this
@@dankbonkripper2845 lmaoo you came late I bought a 2011 gt already so far I’m at 105k miles and still dropping mods on it since it’s my daily and I’m already building a 3v 😂
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I've heard alot of different v8s and got to say the 4.6 2v sound really nice.
Couldn't agree more! Just something about it sounds so good
Exactly, say what you will, but those motors sound like a classic muscle car period. For some reason the Camaro/Firebird don’t have that sound despite having over 1.0 liter more of displacement.
Fun fact alot don't know the bullet mustang ford actually tuned the exhaust to sound like the Steve McQueen mustang the 03 04 mach1 they tuned the exhaust to sound like a 428 cobra jet so yes I'd have to agree they sound much like a muscle car. My experience the 2v while not the most powerful they are very tough and forgiving the 4v I've only had 1 still have it an so far it's been very temperamental.
@@r.g.5.0.h.o.51 cool I didn't know that👍❤️
Yeah the Fox 5.0 and the New Edge 4.6 both are among the absolute best sounding of all time. I have a new edge with long tubes, Xpipe and flowmasters and a friend has a 5.0 fox and they both sound similar and excellent! I’ve had some 4th gen F bodies and they don’t sound nearly as good but I’ve had a couple that sounded good and had great power but these Mustangs just sound so much better! My F body handled much better but just wasn’t as much fun to drive as my new edge. It just feels so much lighter probably because it is smaller and lighter. You can just throw the new edge around easier. It just teaches you better car control in my opinion and experience. I love both cars equally but the Stang is just way more fun no doubt!
Very informative, great video. We all appreciate ya taking the time to help the 2V community. Good luck on the Vette guys.
Thank you! And of course, that’s what we’re here for. But thank you! We can’t wait to install the first mod we ordered last week😬
I also went on Modular Head shops web sight and wow. They described what you touched on with great detail. Cams, gears, degreeing for you etc. I’m saving for cams and hopefully they’ll ship to Detroit!
They definitely know what they are talking about and explain things well. I'm sure they will ship there!
Can't beat the sound of a 2V, with proper exhaust it sounds better than most other V8's 😁😁😁😁😁
Couldn’t agree more!
Underdrive pulleys,catless X-pipe, Long tube headers, A/C delete,Aluminum driveshaft,drag radials out back. Good video bro!
Thank you! 👍🏼
These wake up best with longtubes combined with cams 👍
Couldn’t agree more, change the whole dynamic of the sound!
Excellent video! Just my .02 after messing with these cars for over 20 years. Going to the bolt on route will nickel and dime you to death for very minimal gains. You'll spend thousands and MAYBE make 300 hp. The most cost effective way to make decent power in these cars is to just boost them. You can easily find used Vortech or Procharger kits for 2-2500 bucks. Install it with bigger fuel pump and injectors and go get it tuned. 400+ HP every time. The car will behave like a bone stock car with excellent drivability but have lots of power on demand.
Hey Ken thanks! I completely agree it's a lot of money for not a lot of power. Boost is the way to go. I bought an alternator from you and showed it in a more recent video, loving it! My now fully built internal turbo 2v should be ready in 2 weeks
@@RatchetWrenches Well dang, I appreciate that! I'll see if I can find that video as I'd like to see it! Shoot me a message some time...
Crazy how tech has changed so much that an engine with half the displacement and some boost can make this power.
Everything is basically 4 cylinder turbo now yeah times have changed for sure!
For all you peeps that want some power for your 2v, if you want a big cam, you NEED to buy other things to maximize all the money you spent on the cam. You’re gonna need heads, intake, exhaust and a tune. If you just throw the cam, it really wont do a ton on its own. But this is al after you basically do a tune up and bullet proof the engine if you can. More than average power on an engine that hasn’t been treated well or restored to its factory potential is either gonna disappoint with its power gains or something is gonna break. But otherwise, a really good vid.
SLP loudmouth 1's are my go to exhaust for these cars. So glad I don't have to worry about emissions.
A lot of people run that set up! I'm a fan of the SLP 1's except at WOT it just sounds straight piped and not great. But with a nice set of cams and idle / around town driving you can't beat it
@@RatchetWrenches yeah, they are quite acquired taste for sure. I love my loud raspy exhaust. Lol. Something about these two valves, the sound they make matches no other mustang for me. I don't really care that it's hard to pass 300 or 350 horsepower with them, the sound is what won me over.
Man my old LS1 Trans Am had a custom ground 230/236 cam, FAST 90 intake and 90mm throttle body, long tubes, and put down 400rwhp and ran an 11.89@118mph on slicks and skinnies. Good times.
That car sounds like a blast! Sure it sounded good too
I used to build loads od.those cars. They're ideal IMO.
Although the 2v doesn't make as much horse as the newer 3v or the new coyote they still run good and are awesome cars I have a 2010 3 valve I love it but I'm looking for a 2v to daily drive I was in high school when the two-valve 4.6 Mustang came out and back then 260 horse was great everybody wanted one nice car awesome video bro
Thank you. And you're definitely right! They are funs cars and pretty reliable from what I've seen.
Use a jack to install the midpipe. Loosen the bolts and jack up the pipe. Tighten them then let the jack down. You won't be hanging so low afterward.
Yep that's what we ended up doing!
Zex makes a good kit too that’ll get you there lol. I’m actually looking for an old 2v new edge to start working on. Almost done with my 3v build now. Idk I guess I just like a challenge and don’t want a car note for a new coyote. You should see these camaro ss guys around here faces when I’m pulling away from them with a slow ass 3v. Haven’t put the 3v on the dyno but last week it ran a 12.8 @ 113mph on motor. With a terrible 2.12 60ft hoping for 11.5’s on a 100 shot may have to go up to 125. Still waiting for my nitrous tune from Lito now. Right now the car pretty much has every bolt on they make including hot rod cams still need an aluminum drive shaft. Just installed an adjustable rear upper and bracket rear lower relocation brackets and adjustable lowers and a stiffer panhard bar so hopefully next time out my 60ft will be a little better. Plan on doing about the same thing with a new edge except I’ll probably go with a centrifugal super charger instead of n2o
Well I ended up getting an 02 gt convertible one owner with 76k miles. 100% bone stock when I got it but I been busy. First I just lowered it tinted the windows and cut the mufflers off lol. Got a cold air intake, bbk 78mm plenum/tb nx nozzle wet kit on a 125 shot right now using a sct iTSX to tune it. I planned on doing cams but cam across a good deal on a 2.1 Kenne bell kit, some longtubes, performance automatic shift kit, fti 2800rpm stall and a set of cheap coil overs are all currently sitting in my garage just waiting for the time to do it all. But honestly with just the cai, plenum/tb and nitrous I think it’s doing pretty good. It went 12.6@101mph the other day on the street. Just have some 315/35/17 nitto 555g2 tires think it would do even better with a drag radial. Track opens back up this coming Wednesday and I borrowed my buddys drag pack. So we will know in just a few days what it’ll do ima keep the 125 shot to start but if all goes well ima make a hit or two with a 150 shot. I’ll jump back in here and update though.
Fun cars. Start with intake and exhaust (shop) get to know some local car guys and ask some questions. Suspension and a wider tire 10.5 rim (315 tire) is a good first mod. Short throw shifter, gears, those are great ways to start modding in a simple way and allows you to be hands on if you want. There aren’t many of these cars that are left stock, if you’re looking to buy one, save up a couple thousand cash for some first mods.
Yep pretty much everything you stated I did as my first mods! Very fun cars to work on and build
I've built and rebuilt quite a few of these mods motors over the years. Thing to do is grab an explorer block and drop 80lbs off the front of these cars if you want to stay 2v. If you have the equipment degreeing even the factory cams can get you a good bump if you don't have the money for AM cams. However with the 3v 4.6s getting so cheap now that's what i go to. Do a CMP delete and throw in some aftermarket cams with lock outs and the 2v computer can be tuned to run it no problem. Last 3v I did with stage 1 cams and long tubes made 324rwhp at 6800and 295rwt at around 4900. Ended up with 4.30 gears and that thing was fun to drive.
U got ig?
I wish all 99-04 GTs came with the 4valve... I feel like they’d still be sough after more right now if they had a 4v!
That would definitely be nice
I’m glad my 01 Mercury came with 4 valve
@Nathan Gregory marauders didn't have 2vs
Muraders are 4v
@@yardmeat7499 marauders also didn't exist in 2001
I have a 2019 and a 1992 5.0 but I love the 2v mustangs
That's cool! And I do too something about this body style is great
Extend the back springs, and leave the same springs you have right now on the front. It gives it a more straight up bullet look, it might also fix the x-pipe issue for it touching the ground
Definitely looks nice with a bit of a rake
Port the heads when doing the cams. Keep the stock exhaust manifold. Don't lower the car that low..Gears and good tires super important. Get a dynamic tune. And, don't forget your suspension better shocks struts, springs combo, upgrade control arms and poly bushing everywhere. Maybe an adjustable panhard bar after lowering car and better brake pads and rotor. Now your good to go.
Yea TF heads or ported stock heads definitely will help free up the air flow. I like the car that low so I'm keeping it that way but I'll definitely be upgrading the suspension components probably this summer. Also gotta upgrade the brakes when you upgrade power!
😂😂 the second and 3rd sentence 😂😂
I rebuilt a 1997 convertible with stock cams , valves and BBK shorty headers ,, 75mm intake and 5000 watt Apple sound system ,, great cruiser cars on 87 octane ,, good on gas and easy cheap Mods
I did 4:10s in my 96 GT, and it was great with the PI swapped engine I put it in long ago
410 gears are sweet from what I've heard! I definitely love my 373s. PI swap is a must too
@@RatchetWrenches I still have a non PI engine and a set of bare PI heads as well laying around.. I just bought a 04 Mustang GT
Lovin the content brotha been watching for awhile can’t wait to tune mine 🤩
Thanks man we appreciate the support! Tune in this weekend we got something special going down. And you got upgraded cams too?
My favourite generation of mustang for sure. Even tho stock power isn’t crazy, the sound and look alone is top notch.
Same! It's definitely iconic for sure!
New to the channel, loving the GT videos I'm looking to put the same cams in my crown vic, your videos definitely helped show what I can expect out of my 4.6
Thanks! We appreciate that. The cams we put in definitely added some nice power to the top of the RPM's
Sell the crown Vic and buy a Lincoln mark 8 ooor swap the 4v heads from the mark 8 onto your Vic.
for some reason everyone thinks on these that you have to just make the exhaust as loud as possible when this sounds so good man
Right!? Everyone straight pipes them essentially and they are way too raspy! Nothing wrong with a deep done American Muscle V8! Thank you!
I've never done this... but would it be easier and cheaper to swap a 5.0 in? Both mod motors and a youtube guy said all the accessories bolt right on including motor mounts and a/c. The costs are the motor and the wiring or whatever. I think he said like 2000? For thr wiring/comp kit plus the engine. I think he said the trans bolts up as well. 400 plus hp sounds killer. Love to have 300 hp! Mines stock 99 black vert annv package 5 speed. Dull paint.
Wouldn't say easier or cheaper. From when I researched the swap to do it correctly people were saying all said and done you're looking around $10k give or take depending on a lot of factors. And this is to do it the right way. I'm sure you could cut corners but you'll get what you pay for. I've always just enjoyed the 2v platform and the sound they make personally. Obviously the power is much better stock on a 5.0 just comes with a price tag
Its all in the heads man. Alot of die hard mustang guys would do the explorer head swaps back in the day with a port and polish on the heads+ cam just to hang with a stock ls
I wouldn't say it's all in the heads but the heads are known to flow pretty poorly that's why trickflow was so successful. Eventually, I'll probably have them ported out but for now I'm going to see how the car can perform on non ported PI heads!
@@RatchetWrencheson the plus side, a trick flow head swap will show huge gains now that the stock heads are the biggest restriction.
All GT's have a limited slip.. they just use a clutch/friction type limited slip not a viscous or torsen. hence the clutches wear out and the consistency of the locking decreases. they make better clutches that last a lot longer and are stronger, they are more predictable than a VLSD but still not quite as good as a Torsen type LSD.
Yeah this is what I meant to explain I realized after the video but you're right!
Good video, I would probably add a new set of heads so that it utilizes the cams more. The second would be a new upper intake manifold as well like the trick flow. Last thing I would add is a new billet flywheel, it really frees up rotational mass allowing the engine to rev faster. Keep up the great content!
Thank you! Yeah I've heard trick flow heads are one of the best. I'll definitely be doing that once I go forced induction. Makes sense with the billet flywheel too thanks for the tips!
Those heads are crazy expensive... $2,380 for the heads .. no cams , no lifters , no rocker arms, ... still would need to buy new timing chain set, gaskets , .... it gets crazy expensive instantly.. but should make 310+hp
@Tyler Hawk yeah.. but unfortunately the stock pi heads have a low ceiling when it come to performance... seems like most people hit the 280-290rwhp barrier with stock unported heads .. even seen alot of people still under 300 with ported heads... trick flow heads are the only real option for 300+hp n/a .. but thats a good $3,000 for heads cams valvetrain .. I didn't even pay that much for my 96 gt lol.
@@codyramos3200 no wonder everybody LS swaps these cars stock 6 l with a cam swap and you're over 400 wheel hp
Feel bad for the Crown Vic guys who have to watch endless Mustang videos on how to mod their car
Hahaha yeah exactly
I have a 99 Mustang Gt convertible 5 speed. It has Crower stage 2 cam's, underdrive pulleys, BBK cold air intake, BBK mass air and throttle body. Also BBK ceramic long tube headers into a BBK X-pipe with Flowmaster 3 chamber mufflers. The rear gear is a 3.73. It's tuned for premium fuel, It put down on the dyno 295 RWHP and 305 foot pounds of torque. Since then I've added MSD super blaster coils. I gotta tell you those coils with a higher spark woke up the car. It pulls much stronger working in conjunction with all the other bolt-ons. I'm curious what gains I've made. This car is fun to drive and the sound of those cams is music to a car guys ears!!! The cams alone was worth 29 horsepower. If you can afford it do it, you'll love the car even more!!
mm, you probably just replaced the 24 year old coil packs lol. I have seen 0(zero) dyno evidence of ignition coil packs gaining a significant amount over OEM packs. Unless, of course, there's a couple bad ones.
they have pretty good torque stock wise.i have stage 2 cams and stages heads along with a stroker kit capable of handling 600hp.i spent alot just with those upgrades.everthing lined up didn't have any valve to piston clearance issues the car is pretty quick with a stock Diablo tuned
These cars definitely do have some decent torque that's for sure! Unfortunately if you stay NA things get expensive fast and unless you do a stroker kit like you did the power isn't worth the money IMO
I had a 2000 mustang gt and I got 300 to the wheels with a single turbo and tuning . Plus some bolt ons.
Yeah adding a turbo you can achieve 300HP with ease
c5 vs 2V from a dig! let's see it!
Waiting for a nice day to do it but it will happen!
That will be a drivers race...
That's for sure!
Luv both cars! Be safe and keep up the great content
Great video, but you have to put the car in historical context. In 1999 a BMW M3 had 240 HP at the crank. I owned one new and still have it today. Short of a super car, the only vehicle that anything for me on the street was a Camaro/Firebird. I wanted a Firebird, unfortunately they were at least 5000 dollars more than a Mustang GT. Then one day I saw an Electric Green Mustang GT in the front line at Faulkner Ford. I was 22 and had to have it. Faulkner dissed me and I eventually bought my Electric Green 1999 GT from Brown Daub n Easton PA.
I could not deal with that low of exhaust lol I would be freaking out every time I drive
Hahah yeah I have to dodge every pothole and speed bump it's stressful. But my new set up won't hang this low
Nice video even though I'm late to the party. I'm mid build at the moment, 2004 Mustang GT 74k miles, put stage 3 cams, 78mm throttle body, new cold air intake, different ignition coils, 4:10 rear gears, SLP Loudmouth 1s, and I'm going to have it on the dyno and get a tune, should I get heavier injectors? Believe the stock ones are 19, just figured I'd ask, also, ballpark of hp I should be pushing?
Thank you! And that sounds like an awesome build I'm sure it'll sound really good too! I don't think you absolutely need injectors but slightly bigger ones with a bigger fuel pump could never hurt and probably would be a good idea while you're upgrading everything! That way you never run out of fuel. I remember my stock fuel pump crapped out on the dyno up top making 290RWHP. You should see 300 easy with that set up
@@RatchetWrenches Thanks so much, I'll probably do that!
I am running Comp Cams Stage III on a 2002 automatic.
Bet it sounds awesome
If i had to do it all over again I would just go straight to a supercharger. My 01 bullitt went from 270whp to 430whp with a small pulley vortec and it changed the car drasticly
Agreed! Spending hundreds to thousands on bolt ons is a waste of money in the long run if you're trying to make big power. Just go forced induction
What sight did you order it from ??
@@392Dizzo I pieced the kit together myself with a lot of upgraded parts. The kits they sell and without a bullitt intake manifold, you will most likely make under 400whp with the kits they sell, especially the cheaper none intercooled versions.
@@Motorsportsgeek imma need you to make a RUclips channel broski. You got the craftsmanship to make it big
Another great video!
Thanks !!
Thank you!
Exhaust helps open up alot especially with an aftermarket throttle body
I love the 2v sound but I am not sure if there is another mustang that costs more per hp for increase.
The 4.6 in my mustang got pulled from a 2009 police interceptor with 80,000. It's only intake, long tubes, and a tune but I never dyno'd it, probably a bit above 300
Probably around there I'm sure you're right
Interceptor has a 2v 4.6 just like the mustang... your 2v with listed mods probably is making 235hp if its auto, 245hp if its a manual ... + or - 5hp for both numbers ball park figure.
Best 2v videos on RUclips
Thanks appreciate that!
Really thinking about doing a square body ranger with similar powertrain. 🤔
Not a bad idea !
I think the hanging down issue is only with certain brands such as bbk, mac, I forget the others. I just ordered some ARH ones, I’ll update on ground clearance when I get em on
Interesting.. Definitely could be that. Yeah let us know!
Coming from someone who's first car was a 2004 GT, I'm telling you, sell that thing and get a 5.0, you and you're channel will thank me.
Appreciate the thought and comment but rn our channel is thriving ever since we boosted this thing. So we’re good 👍🏽 maybe one day we’ll add a 5.0 to the channel but rn it’s such a saturated market with everyone just doing 5.0 content
you need to get a set of FRPP underdrive pullies... my 99 got 7hp out of it
Nice, I have heard those are helpful I'll have to look into it.
Im thinking k&n air filter and glasspacks just to wake it up a little what you think
You could try glasspacks but don't waste your money on the k&n filter
Port and polish heads and supercharger make more power
Ended up going with a turbo and love it
Can I still use the mhs camshafts if I install a kenne bell 2.1 supercharger?
You can for sure. You'd just wanna run their supercharger "blower" cams specifically so you get the most power out of them!
With the new exhaust do you not hear the cams as much anymore?
You hear them a lot more with the new exhaust
@@RatchetWrenches nice I’m getting mine next week I’m running open headers
once u get a tubular k.member installing lt headers should be easy been down that road when I had shorty headers on pain in the ass with the stock kmember
Very true. We have a tubular k member now with a turbo kit on it. That stock k member is just too bulky
about 217 on same cheap dynos but if u really want real. numbers the mustang dyno will hurt your feeling big time been there done it a few times.also getting 300hp is pricey I bought stages cams from comp cams and stages heads from patriot performance back In 2005 running super rich car made 285hp to the wheels without a tune.when it was tuned it ran stupid fast still have my 2v and ready for boost
Thanks for the break down. You going to get a new radiator? Alot of great aftermarket brands help your Stang run a little cooler we all know a cooler running engine is a more proficient engine.
Yeah eventually we’re gonna get one I’m sure, also once we go boosted too we’ll be getting a intercooler too which will help with the heat!
@@RatchetWrenches cool a lot of people overlook keeping their engines cool. I think it is why a lot of people have issues that could be solved with a better radiator and a good water pump.
I agree the more power you add the more cooling you’ll want! People definitely overlook it and it causes some major heat soak and can ruin the cars performance and engine
Where did you guys get those back window louvers
AmericanMuscle.com
Actually don't have issues with my exhaust after my long tubes, get it tucked up out of the way
Must be a different mid pipe you're running I've heard BBK hang a little low. But we're going turbo now so hopefully we don't have any issues with that now
What cover is that over the rear window? I love it. Would look great on my 03 GT
Bought those louvers off American Muscle years ago. They give it that retro look I like it also 👍🏼
I've been looking for cheaper solutions to getting the HP higher without doing a Coyote swap (even though the Coyote upgrades would give more HP). Isn't there a higher gear ratio available for the rear axle - like 4.2:1?
Were you running a stock fuel pump then upgraded?
Yep!
I have a 2004 gt, 4.6L V8, how do you find out if it's a 2V? Is the V for volt? How many different ones are there and what does it mean?
The V stands for valve. So 2v there are 2 valves per cylinder while 4v has 4 valves per cylinder. The GT's are 2v. There are 6-cylinder's, GT's, Mach 1's, and Terminator Cobras. Definitely Google it you can find all the info there it's a lot to explain in a comment
@@RatchetWrenches Tyvm, I'll do that.
Did you need to tune for just the intake and TB or does the car compensate for the fuel by itself?
For the intake and throttle body you will not need a tune, if you want to get optimum performance out of it you can tune it but it’s not required
How much difference would you say using a canned tune for the TB and 93 octane would make for a car that’s manual transmission. I’m also guessing g the TB doesn’t do much in way of noticeable HP gains but will make more of a difference in how fast the car will rev to its peak curves making it feel quicker. Is that correct?
Overall price on all mods? 🙏
I know this is older. But I was debating on a 5.0 swap.
Coyote swaps are very common and a great starting point for a N/A build or if you wanna boost it also. To do it correctly is definitely not cheap though
Is that a stock bumper? It looks good asf
Nope it's the 03-04 Cobra bumper but thanks yeah it changed the entire front end imo
I dig this dude!!
What about 2000 f150 4.6 ??
All factory and really want more power that I can’t still tow and daily drive.
You could do simple mods such as exhaust, intake, etc or you could slap a Vortech on it!
The 2Vs don't make a lot of power but they are such good engines. I have beat the snot out of mine for years. And I mean beat on it. 4 transmissions, clutch kits, fuel pump, lots of tires and doing just dumb shit. All of that over the years and all I ever did was change oil and plugs. Motor still chugging along sounds good as it did when I bought it. It just hit 160k
Couldn't agree more! They are pretty stout and as long as you keep up with general maintenance you'll be good
Strange that a 1957 283 Chevrolet made 283 horsepower, now over forty years later a 4.6 2valve ford in a crown vic makes about a hundred horsepower less.
I'm doing the same cams, 75mm Plenum, UD pulleys, and I put in 12cc pistons, stock manifolds with bassani off road x pipe, flow master cat back, and 3.73s. I'm interested to see what it puts out.
I'd say just shy of 300RWHP if I were to guess. Should be interesting though
@@RatchetWrenches it will have more power than my Brother-in-law's Monte Carlo, that's all I care 😆
Dude where did you get that front bumper from?? It makes the car have so much more shape.
It really does! We bought it on ebay. We made an entire video for it feel free to check that out if you're interested
That’s the thing about the new edge when you lower them. The exhaust scratches the pavement . That’s why on my mustang I don’t have a full exhaust no cats no mufflers just straight pipes coming out from side exhaust.not legal but who gives a shit when your in Texas lol
Anything goes in Texas! 🇺🇲
Nice video!!
Thank you!
What part of Jersey u guys from, I'm in NJ also
We’re from Somerset county hbu?
I live in CA. I can’t even get mufflers the car without getting a ticket lol.
Hahah the struggle! That’s so shitty lol
@@RatchetWrenches I know lol. The crappier part is they pass our strict emissions. They are just noisy which is illegal here. A money grab by the state.
What size injectors
In this video they were stock so 24 lbs I believe. We are now running 60 lb FIC for our turbo kit we installed
Thoughts on a Steeda email tune?
Don't have to much experience with them and email tunes but generally for bolt ons email tunes will suffice, anything larger like a camshaft or FI I would recommend a dyno tune or sending data logs and remote tuning
Did I miss the Dyno sheet or how much power your car made ?? Great video though
I don't think I put it in this video but it's in our video of the first drive after being tuned with the cams. Thanks though!
Boost it!
Eventually!
I have a 96 with the BBK throttlebody 24# injectors BBK cold air stage 2 cams and pi swap made 315 rwhp also has msd coil packs
What brand cams and were the heads ported? 315 seems impressive with just those mods.
@@RatchetWrenches mhs gen 2 it also has BBK shorts with BBK h pipe 373 gears I don't believe the heads are ported but not sure the previous owner did the pi swap
Victor Jr intake as well
@@brandongrabinski6029 eww msd coil packs I've thrown a few sets of those in the trash OEM Motorcraft coils for the win
@@brandongrabinski6029 yeah that's a single plane intake design for high RPM you're going to kill all the low end power on a two valve which it's lacking anyway
Is that factory paint I have a identical car with looks to be the same paint
Technically it's a Maaco paint job so I don't think it's Ford spec but it's the closest to the Ford black paint code!
I’am not sure how long you had the BBK ceramics longtube are you having any of the ceramic coating coming off .Thanks!
They've been on for over a year and seem to be holding up well
I'm close to FBO I have kn CAI sr performance underdrive pulleys really helped my throttle response, msd coil packs, and Borla atak catback it just sounds mint
Nice sounds like a sweet set up!
@@RatchetWrenches thanks man I really appreciate it follow me on insta and I will hit u with one back my @ is Redfire_jimmy I have a 03 redfire vert. Next step on my whip is coilovers instal my saleen body kit and then hit it with some cams an Intake plenum and mani and a tune but it’s gonna take a hot min before I get there haha
how much do you pay in insurance? looking to get a mustang when i come to the US next year btu im so scared of insurance becausze i know it can get super expensive in the US, will be insured with half coverage ( no point insuring a 7k car)
It's going to be completely different for everyone. I would call an insurance company to get a quote! It shouldn't be that expensive to insure for you I'd imagine
Do you need to tune the car when putting on long tube headers?
Some kind of tune (email / dyno) would be recommended yeah you're changing the airflow drastically within the exhaust
can you send the links for the exhaust
Long Tubes: www.americanmuscle.com/bbk-longtube-9604gt.html
O/R xpipe they don't sell anymore due to EPA regs.
Borlas: www.americanmuscle.com/borla-s-catback-99-04-gt.html
Where in NJ are you? I live in NJ too and I’ve always wanted a Mustang lol
Somerset County
@@RatchetWrenches Ah ok. I live in Boonton, so we are a bit far from each other lol
@@RatchetWrenches you and your friends seem cool man I used to live in Pennsylvania now im back down south in Mississippi but plan on coming back I wanna meet you and the guys and see the car in person! Lol
im making 280hp 330trq on a 2004 2v with just long tubes, c&l intake plenum and 75 mm throttle body with a dyno tune
That ain't bad! Stock cams?
@@RatchetWrenches yup! engine is unopened!
How many miles u got
About 108,000 now
where did you get those headlights?
AmericanMuscle.com they are just the smoked headlight housings
If someone could rly shift, how well do 2vs do in 0-60
I could give it a shot, I think I am pretty good at shifting quick on the lower end
You plan on boosting this thing anytime soon?
Just picked up a Crimson red 04’
Yeah I do just waiting on a few things. Hoping by fall it'll be boosted. Sounds cool! The crimson is a cool color
I cant get longtubr headers cause i have a automatic🥲ordered them and realized there only for manual
Ahh yeah that's unfortunate i think the transmission gets in the way for the automatics right?
Just put pi heads and cms stage 1 cams, and longtubes on my 98 2v hoping to break that 3xx whp mark 🤞
You should be very close if you don't hit it with those mods!
@@RatchetWrenches 👍ok sweet i was hoping so, Lee at Blankenship is tuning it and I hear hes really good
What type of gas mileage do you get with the 3.73 gears?
Honestly never calculated gas mileage with this car 😂 I just drive it to enjoy it but if I were to guess somewhere around 15mpg
@@RatchetWrenches I had a 4.6 with stock gears that was running too rich and I calculated it was only making 13 MPG. It was a little too demanding on the finances for my liking.
Love your videos
We greatly appreciate that!
Curious, why didnt you change the heads or get them ported? I'm looking at twisted wedge heads. Expensive! Any thoughts?
Didn't seem worth the investment to me it does add a little bit of horsepower and they will flow better. If you can justify the price, go for it!
@@RatchetWrenches My car is a 96 GT with stock non-PI heads so I'm gonna try to swing it. It is a hefty price tag though.
@@macvoodoo123 pi top end swap will wake up ur car,