1970 Boss 302 Mustang beats twin turbo factory Porsches 2012 Rolex Monterey Motorsports Reunion
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2012
- This is Saturday Mornings race. The car is a 1970 Ford Mustang that was converted to a tube chassis IMSA car in 1976. Its Boss 302 motor has four webbers and produces about 600 horsepower. For a better picture of the car, and more information go to youtube, '1970 IMSA Mustang'. Thanks for watching.
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My brother has a 70' Boss , he has had it for almost 50 years, in 75" he wanted to sell it and buy a 74" Corvette; we were at the guy's house with the Corvette and I kept pleading with him saying " you can buy Corvettes all day but you will never buy another Boss".Needles to say he kept the Boss.
@IT'SME , that Corvette couldn't hold a candle to a B
oss 302.
Likely the best advise you ever gave him....and he listened! Kudos to you both.
What a great decision. I have been a 68’ Cougar, with a 302. I see no Cougars anywhere.
AIN'T NOTHIN' LIKE FIRE BREATHIN V8. I know it's a vintage race but it nice to open the carbs!
I had a 72 mustang original frame, sm block 302, 650 intake, headers. I miss that car. Got my first spd ticket in that, good times
Nothing screams raw, angry power like a V8. I never got to see a Can-Am race but I can only imagine what all of those big displacement V8s sounded like at the start.
Ain’t nothing like driving them big blocks
The guy in the black 935 must have wondered what the hell happened when you split left to go around the yellow Camaro! GREAT piece of driving, and a bloody lovely sounding car!
the camaro driver said "ah shit!"
bloody good move mister!
Sort of Move Senna would do , if you no longer go for a gap , you no longer a racing driver!!!
12:30 sec your exactly right that 935 had to be shocked . And the Camaro set him up perfect to execute . great driving indeed.
@@bruceburton8315 You are correct. With the horsepower of a 935, there was no way I could catch him on the straights. But I knew once we were in traffic, I would have opportunities. He was slow in the corners.
Although I'm a true Mustang fan, I think this was more about the driver. Love it, no matter!
Not even it was more the Porsche broke. You don’t go blowing by like the Porsche is sitting still when first lap the Porsche pulled away in the straight away. He was also out of the main line when he passed the Porsche which means the Porsche was moving over because something was wrong
Every race is about the driver, and when old cars break, they break.
I agree, his driving was flawless. Blew my mind.
Looks like went too wide and forced the Porsche off the track.
When I was a teenager my uncle had a Boss 302 race car, I swear it was turning 10K rpm. I could see through the fender when he took the corner and the headers would be glowing red. Awesome when you're 17 years old.
Sick. 302 engine?
@@josel8311 Bored and stroked to 366 ci.
Jack Flash -Man that's awesome anytime!
@@josel8311 with Cleveland heads,canted valves
I love the way he cleared a path through the pit spectators with throttle blips from his mighty Ford V8 !!
Common - It's a zoo - no horn and a paddock full of clueless non race spectators. Went to Monterey for about the first 25 years - now I only go to crew if a friend is driving. He offered us a free room and tickets last year and we declined. He was doing some PR and announcing work but it's no fun if I'm not at least turning wrenches.
Yeah, the Boss *maybe* could've been driven faster, but especially while it was behind the Porsche, you could tell it was driven with respect for fellow drivers in what is basically a gentleman's race. Very nice drive!
As an aside, the lack of paying attention in the paddock by all the bystanders was disheartening, but it must've felt good to flex that 302 at them.
The car sounds like it’s not struggling to get around the track, even coasting ! The driver is perfect, no mistakes.
Everybody's an expert Driver and more than happy to tell the guy racing the actual car how to do it, while they sit at home. Great video!
Then there are the ones that Know
It’s not as ez as it looks that’s for sure.
Armchair racers
🤔 Well sir, I just happened to have run MANY LAPS on this particular course in Real Racing 3 on my smartphone! So I think I know at least a little more about it than ^these racers, who've ONLY driven around the track in real cars.... Good day to you sir! 🤪
No shit!!!
The Mustang was set up perfect for this track. Good to see...
God I'd love to drive that track someday. My dad and I used to go to laguna seca every year to watch the different classes race. Probably one of the best road courses in the world in my opinion!
Better make plans real quick. It's future is in serious jeopardy. Like maybe this year is its last.
Damn nice wheel time. Great pass on the Camaro and the Porsche. You consistently outbraked that Porsche getting into those curves. That’s awesome!
Wow 1:33.34 on the new course. I miss the original 9 turn course. Great video, great audio. I am so glad music was not placed over the actual audio thank you.
I hadn't looked at this for a while. A very fast car that handles beautifully, and a bloody FEARLESS driver!!
Thanks for the compliment. The car looks formidable, but it actually handles very nicely. Turn off the sound if you really want to see the 'line' and handling.
@@jwatkins6374 That was white-knuckle racing until the pass. Great job!
The moment he made it around that black Porsche was sooooo satisfying. Even if it meant that he got help from a slower car.
I live in Spartanburg, SC about 2 miles from the old buildings Bud Moore ran the Trans Am cars out of. As a kid, the Trans Am cars were my favorite, and they still are today. Thanks for sharing the driver's perspective....
Yes, Rainer ran a Bud Moore motor in this car, back in the day.
1970 Trans Am is my dream muscle car. I’m going to get it in Bermuda Blue. If not, just the rolling shell would be cool
That whole grid is just awesome. Anyone who dislikes any of those cars is not a fan of racing
This dude made my day😜 good lines and braking was impressive.
12:33 .. and that boys is how a man does it! .. Boss move !
That was awesome. Felt like I was driving. Great sound.
Man, I wish I had the kind of money to be able to do stuff like this. It looks like it's a ton of fun. Maybe someday.
Never say die Tommy. Your life isn't over so long as you're still walking and talking. You don't have to be a millionaire to build something fun and competitive. There are literally dozens of different racing classifications you could get yourself in to fairly cheap from a race car standpoint from stock all the way up to these monster balls Trans Am/SCCA super cars. At the end of the day, it's all about being fun, competitive and having some cool stories to tell the grand kids when you're rocking on the front porch later on in life. Whatever you do, don't give up on a dream just because you don't have tons of cash laying around. There's always a way. You just need to find it.
Every "everyman" racer i knows starts out with track days at a local circuit. The usual recommendation is a convertable Miata (750-1500). Then you go through it and put a cage in (bolt in). Get some tires and go rip. That is the quickest way to get onto a real racing course and start learning on a budget. I was told the Miata will teach you the correct driving line because of the low power. It will teach momentum driving and that is what makes the fastest guys fast.
@@seeker156 There is no such thing as a 750 dollar miata
@@au1317 might be right, i haven't looked at the market in a several years. looks like you would have to piece on together to get something that cheap.
@@seeker156 yes, “spec Miata.” Surprisingly fast at P.I.R.
I live close enough to the track that I can hear the engines in the distance when they are running.
That is beyond BADASS! That engine sounds beautiful! Nice driving too!
Thanks!
This felt like a Messerschmitt vs Mustang WW2 dogfight. The mustang got the opportunity and did it just right.
Great to see this car on the track after seeing it for sale in the classifieds for a few years!
That's a stout 600 HP. Great drive!
Remember. Unless your the lead dog the view never changes.love my 302.small simple and trustworthy .
He didn't necessarily out power the black Porsche, but he definitely out drove him.
And the cars are matched as such to make it fair, and so the better driver, better team and car with better stamina and handling takes the win, sometimes a bit of luck too. Mustang took the W and that's all he meant by it. It's american muscle , when it comes down to it pound for pound, there's no replacement for displacement bro!😉 Ain't no porsche twin turbo running Top Fuel 11,000 hp under 3sec. And 330+mph in 1/4mile son
8cylinders of ground pounding eye watering breathe taking Insanity!😜
The Porsche obviously broke come on first laps the Porsche pulled away like he was sitting still then the Porsche got out the main line and he passed it was obviously having trouble.
He wasn’t catching that Porsche first couple few laps. Then he blows by like He’s sitting still the Porsche obviously broke
@@terryfonz4603 doesn’t matter on the track man, your car has to be reliable.
@@dannycreech4177 None of that shit you talk about is supposed to turn, so its basically like launching rockets. Try V12 bi-turbo instead in real race cars. Why do you think Mark Donahue was the first to do 400 kph in a race....in a Porsche... Or some other dudes did 380 on the Mulsanne straight. Thats country road, cowboy....You try that in a dragster.
@@dannycreech4177 Ain't no Funny Car lapping the Ring in under 7 minutes either. You drag racing fanboys give me headaches...
Came in expecting the Porsches to be eaten alive on the straights. Pleasantly surprised to see the Mustang win in the corners. Brilliant driving! That pass at the Yellow Camaro was epic!
Great driving on the mustang's part. I don't know why 911's are sacred. He had the boost for acceleration but you could see the weight of that lump hanging out the back slowing him in the curves. I've seen race spec miata's (base engine) keep up with a 911 on the track. The 911 would pull away in the straights but the miata would catch it at every curve.
That seems to be more driver than car there. My buddy and I use to go to the local Porsche club autocrosses in his stock NB Miata and clean house. I once took TTOD by more than 7 seconds! They hated us so much they use to add extra time to us for phantom cones we didn't hit just to keep us from winning everything.
@@plantfeeder6677 Don't doubt you one bit. In my NC club sport I was able to catch up to pocket rockets in some twisty bits. A fast driver in a slow car is quite often faster than a slow driver in a fast car.
@james avery well, they are very reliable and with enough cash, alot of bad physics can be minimized.
Love his Pit Horn at the end. Why hasn't anyone made one like that yet?
You patiently waited for an opportunity and quickly took the first one that showed up! That was pure skill !!!
yes, his car was faster than mine, but he didn't know the track and was slow in the corners. I needed traffic to give me an edge.
*jwatkins6374* Ok beautiful car nothing like the *Boss 302* & the driver, Outstanding ! Thank-you for taking the time to bring us along. God Bless.
must say one of the best sounding cars, and amazing acceleration, great job
There's just something so cool about vintage race cars. It's so raw and analog. Awesome race
My favorite track. And glad to see the courtesy of the other drivers. All-in-all a good day.
Well done! Smart and fast driving. Wait for the opportunity and POUNCE!
Ahhh yes, years of playing Gran Turismo has made me familiar with this track ❤
That 935 look like it wasn't easy to beat. Holy crap that's an awesome sounding car...
All people that played gran turismo recognize immidiatly the double left corner of laguna seca after the start line XD
So does everyone else who’s ever played a video game with Laguna Secs as well? What are you, 8?
@@unchartedgaming4733 Which games were featuring Laguna Seca before GT then?
@@Heatfarmer he’s not saying before he is just saying In general
hey jwatkins.....looks like great driving on your part and a fun day at the track...! Ignore the haters.....keep having fun...we’ll keep following your videos. Thanks for the post.
Woah! I've been on that track (Laguna Seca) many times on bikes. From THAT point of view, my shoulders and legs were feeling the stress again around the corkscrew and turn 11. Let's here it for US MUSCLE CAR POWER. As the proud owner of a 68 '442, heavily breathed on (for then) I just wish I still had it , to throw twin turbos, and, and I'd go nuts. That was great.
Better late than never. What a sound, and great driving.
Bruce Canepa is a retired racer and is now a car dealer NOT some high-powered race shop in Germany. That 934.5 you see here is HIS 934.5 that HE really raced and won in on this track! In '79 Porsche gave him a new 935 for the '79 season. Let's just appreciate these bad ass racers for taking their prizes around this track and allowing us to watch!
Not sure what your point is here Will. Bruce has retired from professional racing, but he is still a very competent driver. The Rolex Monterey Motorsports Reunion is not a professional event, so it is rare that a professional driver participates. The car Bruce races at the Rolex Reunion is the 1979 Porsche 935 that was built in Germany and is a 'Werks' car. In fact it was the last 935 to be built in Germany, so it is a very special car. He did win an IMSA event at Laguna Seca in 1978 in a Porsche 934.5, which says alot about his ability to drive.
Thanks for the ride, turned volume up love that music !! Driver had some favorite corners had the corkscrew down pat, beautiful just beautiful ! Been to Monterey number times, would love to run my Alpine around that track. Bruce W
Thanks for sharing that great footage! That track is one of my all time favourites and in my eyes the most awesome one on the American continent.
When you were driving through the pits at the end, right before you parked, I was instantly sold on what my car needs to be. It's a 65 Fairlane with a 289. It's name is "the crooked d".
The Boss has 289 conrods, which is one of the things that made it great. You have part of a Boss. ;-)
The addition of modern tech goes a looong way towards improving upon the past👍
Excellent pass on the black one, though. Very well done. Raised my heart rate just watching it.
This sounds really good, as if you are there, when played thru a set of B&W tower speakers driven with 400 watts. I think the neighborhood should hear this, to share is good.
Wow that pass was crazy, thumbs up!
Hell, he never even opened up that 302. Just lolly gagged around the track, dropping Porsches like owl pellets!
sounded like it opened up quite often
Its a 366 cubed Boss Motor. Not built for high revs, but lots of torque in the corners and 600+ horses.
HAHAHAHAHA!
The Porsche’s were not being pushed due to there historical value! If they had the mustang wouldn’t have stood a chance of running with them! Check laps times from the 80’s.. when they were in there hay day racing in IMSA.
@@jwatkins6374 You got more gold than the Denver Mint with that Boss...the best time I've had since the early 70's, riding with you. Thanx!
The black Porsche Interscope Racing 935 #0 is the Danny Ongias car. I remember him from Daytona several years in the early 80’s. He was fast but he ran hard and broke it. He was a Hollywood producer.
Love the Boss 302’s. High winding 4-bolt Windsor 302 with 351 Cleveland heads.
Back in the 935 turbo days, it was hard to beat the knob !
The only music in this is a V-8. Nice video. As a Biker I now understand the Corkscrew. I understand this is a vintage race, so the pace may be off, but this car was much faster in the corners.
That's how it is done! Wonderfull job ,made my day, i miss racing my mustang,thankyou!
Cool racing - watching nine years later. It’s a historic race, so I would not expect the drivers to go all out or be experienced in their respective racers. No one wants to crash these cars. 😀
Almost took home a few pedestrian souvenirs.😉🙈 Awesome job.
I would say you out raced them not beat them as if the car was superior machine for machine but to be 50 year old machine it did and amazing job .. Hats off too you
God that noise was amazing.
Thankfully he didn't add some stupid music track.
My favorite track..awesome run. That yellow car did a favor and forced a split and pass by the boss (holding him up anyways:).
That was fun! Nice race. I can see where you went hard when you wanted to get serious. Nice lines... Can't see where anyone mentioned the airbags at 22:40 though...
Sounds really good - enjoyed the video - thank you. Go the Stang !
Nice driving and beautiful car! Thanks for the upload:-)
fair play good skill around the tight stuff!! boy those two turbos are fast.
It looks like the Porsche needs a driver mod. The Mustang catches up under braking and turns and sometimes tries to overtake, but the Porsche pulls away in every straight. It doesn't look like the Porsche is being pushed as hard in the braking or turns, but I can only see what's in the video, so I don't know.
Nice drive JW ....very patient.. .....just waited for the moment and it came. Cheers from Mackay AUSTRALIA .
Thanks JA! That means a lot coming from one of you gear-heads down under.
Cheers JW .Thanks for your nice response .You might like to type in u tube Muscle Car Masters Australia which is a class of racing over here you will enjoy watching . Just quickly is that you again at 2013 Rolex Mont ? Happy Days Bloke...... J.A
I have heard of that group. I shipped a 1970 Mustang Trans Am car to New Zealand in 2010 and raced three weekends with Dale Mathers of Coastline Automotive. We ran the inaugural Bruce Mclaren Festival at Hampton Downs, Pukekohe and Taupo. The Taupo weekend even was with the Central Muscle Cars. I was very impressed with the skill of the drivers in NZ.
Yeah mate they hook in over there . Cheers/
@@jwatkins6374 Oh God don't send them any Mustangs, they put Chevy motors in them.
superior driving and a sweet machine...love my small block Fords....thanks
I saw "my" 914 I had in high school in the 90's!
I always wanted a 914, good car for the money. Are they buildable for high performance?
I love Laguna Seca. I’ve been there twice back in the early 90’s for the US Motorcycle Grand Prix. Great track but you better find a place you like because it’s laid out inside a bowl that you can’t see around the track. Lots of elevation changes! Wayne Rainey lives just a stone throw from the circuit.
My favourite track on games. Hope to go there one day
Group 5 and IMSA GTX glory. Very fascinating period in motorsport history.
Not a huge ford fan but that is a runnin high twistin corner burnin piece of engineering you have there gentlemen.good job.driver is pretty good too.
Great pass around the yellow camaro i love the 935s but the sound of the 302...omg I wouldn't care if it was last.
Boss 302 Cleveland canted valve heads 2.19 intakes
jeez those up shifts are so smooth almost automatic like
Good driving and great move, just goes to show you having the fastest rig doesn't always get you to the finish line first.
The black 935 looks like the old Interscope Racing Porsche driven by Danny Ongais. I can assure you if Danny we’re driving he’d have left everyone so far in the dust it wouldn’t be funny! In qualifying trim with the boost turned up these engines made close to 1200 hp! They could turn an 9.80 et in the quarter mile with road racing gearing!
Those Porsches jump like rabbits but man, how much deeper into the curves that old 'Stang goes, slamming the door shut every lap!
Nice to see an old card that’s 40-something years older than the newer ones out there spanking ass! Taking names! Nothing like the sound of a good old pushrod V-8! Especially the old small block Ford! God Bless America!
Man! I’m a fan! Who’s this driver? What patience, great decisions early- he must’ve known they’d fade. Aside from 1minoe oversteer on cold tires he kept flawless control at all times. I didn’t know Stangs could be this good lol Seriously who’s driving.
Great run at beautiful laguna seca.
15:32 I thought you were going to tag that Datsun it was like he didn't know what to do when getting passed.
LOL Who needs a horn when you have loud pipes!!
Great video.
Great driving.
Thanks.
Well done, love the sound of the boss
Say what you will about today's racing with computer controlled cars and C.A.D. designed bodies but these 60's-70's are where the real excitement's at. You could almost hear the guy in the black Porsche screaming at his crew "somebody get this guy off me!!!!". Lmao. I love the nostalgia races and these old car Trans Am races.
Very cool, Sounds incredible!
That "corkscrew" is is like a roller coaster ride on a motorcycle!
I've watched this many times... and I don't know who the driver is, but he is good!!
Thank you
that is one fast little hot rod i tell you what!
Nice machine, nice driving!
cool stuff, love that sound
Great sound!
I built my bronco engine (331) styled after the boss 302. It’s a manual and fun to find windy canyon roads, with little stretches of straight aways, no it’s not a race car but it’s fast, light, and can still ford 4’ of water, climb rocky trails, drive in deep snow and sand.
Wow great video and audio great driving great car
Nice move at 12:30! Wow!
What a wild sounding car!
Love this video.. although this is a vintage race and I believe most of the drivers are semi-pro at best.. some Pro drivers obviously.. but I dont think the vehicles are of the same class.
Awesome car good driving
I knew every turn of that track from years of playing Toca Race Driver 2, 68 mustang challenge lol
Brother had both a Boss 429 (1070 semi Hemi) and a Boss 302 in a Fairlane. He stated the Fairlane was way faster. Damn did a it ever scream. As for the Boss 429 unfortunately his life went downhill and he had to sell in in the early 1080s. I think he actually broke down and cried.
This car has a soul!
go mustang
Fantastic thank you!