How Gaijin Ruined One of The Best SPAA in War Thunder

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  • Опубликовано: 4 июн 2024
  • The FlaRakRad is beloved among its many owners, myself included. It's one of the most unique vehicles in the game, and used to be one of the best at its job, too.
    Some updates later, and it just isn't the same. I've wanted to make this video for a while now; since I've been disappointed with this change ever since Sky Guardians dropped.
    0:00 Intro
    2:18 Weapon System
    3:21 Weapon Platform
    4:12 VT1 Missile
    6:31 Conclusion
    6:50 Outro
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  • @02suraditpengsaeng41
    @02suraditpengsaeng41 Год назад +942

    " JuST sPaWn SPAA bRo " and Gaijin make SPAA life even more harder (in general)

    • @Micsmit_45
      @Micsmit_45 Год назад +93

      That's what's always bothered me about the cas fuckers. Because I do spawn SPAA. But the tracking on my Gepard has been merged to shit, the sitingers on my Ozelot are very hit or miss (literally and figuratively) and my FlaRakPz 1 also isn't doing too well against planes and helos that can outrange and outgun me with ease.

    • @halo129830
      @halo129830 Год назад +4

      @@Micsmit_45 umm is it weird I bring the m18 gmc for cas at the br I mean anything kills it but since this update I’ve gotten a few god modes because they never expect it
      Edit meant the m16 quad mount

    • @Micsmit_45
      @Micsmit_45 Год назад +3

      @@halo129830 you sure you mean the M18? Cuz that thing only has a ma deuce and it's 76mm.

    • @Darkclaw86
      @Darkclaw86 Год назад +16

      @@Micsmit_45 he mean the 50cal gun, the 50cal overperform in this game, it shreds anything with a few shots, it's accurate like a lazergun with a high rpm. A fucking M18 cut with a single shot my whole wing from my Ju88, so those MGs are unrealisticly perform better as AA then 20mm or 30mm guns, with HE fuse, whose first purpose was to be AA. And the M16 has four this things.

    • @Micsmit_45
      @Micsmit_45 Год назад +3

      @@Darkclaw86 yea that may be the case at lower Bars, but there's no way in hell it's an effective spaa that the highest BRs

  • @hartsymk1
    @hartsymk1 Год назад +2120

    I fully agree with you, only problem is Gaijin don't care because they don't actually play test their game, they will continue to allow cas to run riots at top tier like they always have.

    • @wilmeroberg9794
      @wilmeroberg9794 Год назад +73

      What do you even mean?? The pantsir can shoot a plane down as soon as it spawns, I got shot down by a pantsir while I was taking off from an airfield. CAS is in no way useful at top tier anymore.

    • @TheKenji2221
      @TheKenji2221 Год назад +180

      ​@@wilmeroberg9794
      Good riddance

    • @Miragexe
      @Miragexe Год назад

      @@wilmeroberg9794 Okay, and every nation has a Pantsir so thats good right? . oh wait this just means Russia gets to dominate air on top of ground.

    • @nothisismyopinion
      @nothisismyopinion Год назад +37

      The only good as is a designated fighter to keep the skies clear… if you get destroyed by cas one of two things have already happened 1~your team has already lost or 2~your team is only interested in playing world of tanks…

    • @markusreed5447
      @markusreed5447 Год назад +18

      @@wilmeroberg9794 yes but what if the Pansir is on the Enemie Team?

  • @kimjongun7148
    @kimjongun7148 Год назад +868

    putting cinematics shots with commentary is such a nice change than just boring ass gameplay. keep up the good work!

    • @kleiton__
      @kleiton__ Год назад +30

      The only War Thunder youtuber that doesnt feel like a chore to watch, all because his comedy and editing are on point

    • @ZIONOMANIA
      @ZIONOMANIA Год назад +6

      ​@@kleiton__ It's pretty unique and that's what i appreciate from this type of content

    • @alphaplayzz1381
      @alphaplayzz1381 Год назад +4

      holy shit, great leader plays war thunder

    • @darthvader8744
      @darthvader8744 11 месяцев назад +1

      You should try that yourself and stan a country that isn't overrated

    • @fuck_you-chinese
      @fuck_you-chinese 10 месяцев назад

      I agree!

  • @BrutalHamlet
    @BrutalHamlet Год назад +419

    The reload while dueling a KA-50 always drove me insane. Now I'm glad I've been taking a break from the game

    • @gekkebadmutso7426
      @gekkebadmutso7426 Год назад +7

      They would be firing all their missiles on u in 1 second

    • @peaaanuuutz
      @peaaanuuutz Год назад +30

      Don't come back. It isn't worth it. Put your money somewhere else. A better game perhaps.

    • @lordbossharrow
      @lordbossharrow Год назад

      @@gekkebadmutso7426 nah just fire 3 missiles at you and you're dead, 2 to destroy your VT-1s and 1 to kill you.

    • @jmheasley4473
      @jmheasley4473 Год назад +2

      @@GuffinMcGuffin skill issue ngl

    • @txcgladiator4030
      @txcgladiator4030 Год назад +25

      @@jmheasley4473 virgin issue ngl

  • @kazuviking
    @kazuviking Год назад +1574

    Fun fact, the FlaRakRad shouldn't even have the VT1 since it was never fitted with it.

    • @freshfrozen7612
      @freshfrozen7612 Год назад +309

      lmao you talk about realism with gayjin games, they can fkin fit a nuke warhead into it and it would still suck ass

    • @theoneandonlyartyom
      @theoneandonlyartyom Год назад +160

      shh! german mains must be cuddled and handheld!

    • @notholland5312
      @notholland5312 Год назад +105

      Over a span of 8 years there was program to outfit them with VT1 (some were but never officially in service), it was canceled

    • @RutakoVon
      @RutakoVon Год назад +270

      Fun fact, the 2s38 is a recent prototype that has armament with ammo that is completely speculative.

    • @stevenortiz9008
      @stevenortiz9008 Год назад +26

      ​@@RutakoVonengine,hull,weapon and ammo, isn't like it's out of this world

  • @linussyren9221
    @linussyren9221 Год назад +66

    “Just play SPAA”
    Has become “just play planes!”

    • @KekusMagnus
      @KekusMagnus 6 месяцев назад

      "just play planes" was always the solution to CAS, SPAA as a whole is bad game design and they aren't even that common in real life

    • @Z4ibas
      @Z4ibas 3 месяца назад

      Just play PREMIUM planes.

    • @Optimusprime56241
      @Optimusprime56241 2 месяца назад

      @@KekusMagnus they’re quite common in real life what the hell are you on about

    • @Jackwans
      @Jackwans 27 дней назад

      @@KekusMagnus it never is a solution, only a band aid, if you're expecting to balance CAS with CAP you're too far off, because aircraft SP to be used as AA is too high to expect any form of effective AA from the average team, so either you're playing CAP to counter CAS by yourself (meaning you don't get to play tanks either way), or you play tanks and get fucked by CAS because there is no solution.
      Making Air to Air load for CAP cheaper is a start, or giving actually effective SPAA, compensating for mundane and bad SPAA gameplay is another, making them a viable grinder is another, and spicing up SPAA gameplay is also another, for instance, by giving it drones to help the team in the meantime

  • @Martonospam
    @Martonospam Год назад +254

    the editing is just insane. keep up the good work mate

  • @iamthesenate3331
    @iamthesenate3331 Год назад +192

    Thats what happen if you balance a game based on player stats alone. I just hope to remedy the Flarakrad they add something cool and new to the german AA´s like the Skyranger 30 or 35 on a Boxer chassis. but as it stands right now the difference between in capabilities between the Pantsir and other Spaa is just rediculous.

    • @willdebeljak7062
      @willdebeljak7062 Год назад +4

      Gun AA like sky ranger wouldn't help above 10.0, the only option to counter guided munitions is SAM systems.

    • @iamthesenate3331
      @iamthesenate3331 Год назад +18

      @@willdebeljak7062 Yeah no, Gun AA is already capable of tracking guided Munitions, for example the Gepard. So just to say gun AA wouldn´t help is stupid. What we need in high tier is AA with a mix of long range missiles and guns to be able to defend all forms of aerial threats, as layed out in the video and germany is lacking that as the highest AA with a mix of guns and missiles is the Gepard 1A2 which is 9.7.
      Thats why i recommended the Skyranger as it features both missiles and guns and would be capable to bridge that gap in which the Flarakrad is ineffective.
      The issue is that germany almost doesn´t use these single vehicle AA anymore, but like most of NATO they use a combination of specialised vehicles (radar, launcher etc) to create their SAM sites as seen in systems like the Patriot or the different IRIS-T launchers.
      I dont know if or how Gaijin would ever implement these multi-vehicle SAM´s but until they do something about the current meta russia will just have a stupidly large edge over any oher nation, which negatively impacts gameplay.

    • @Lobos222
      @Lobos222 Год назад +3

      @@iamthesenate3331 Warthunder is not DCS. I doubt you will ever see multi vehicle setup tbh.

    • @iamthesenate3331
      @iamthesenate3331 Год назад +6

      @@Lobos222 yeah i know that wt is not dcs, its surprisingly obvious if you think about it. I was simply going over the options gaijin has to fix their garbage balance and mentioning the fact that most western SAM sites rely on a multi vehicle setup.

    • @willdebeljak7062
      @willdebeljak7062 Год назад +1

      @I am the Senate yeah and a Gepard 1A2 does great to stop the plethora of CAS as they dive from 9km above you. Skyranger offers nothing new, they just need to fix the saclos system to balance the game. Warthunder will never be realistic, because it can't be. NATO uses air systems to fight air systems primarily, but since spawning planes is based on sp it can't be done on a fair basis.

  • @cat_clan_leader
    @cat_clan_leader Год назад +55

    Finally somebody that understands why this thing really isn't a good vehicle at the br it's at. Good explanation video

    • @kurosumomo
      @kurosumomo Год назад +2

      What's the difference really? If it was 10.7 you would still be taking it to 11.7 with your 11.7 lineups, just like how in your Japanese 11.7 lineup you still take that utterly bad 9.0 Type 93 with you. For anything lineups below 11.7, just take the FlaRakPz 1 it's equally bad.

    • @Kingrhem.
      @Kingrhem. Год назад +6

      I think Vt-1s should be reversed to their older performance because lowering it's br with no alternative will just leave you with no SPAA at top tier germany

    • @bIakeee
      @bIakeee Год назад

      @@kurosumomo they should buff it again to make it at least competitive with the Pantsir is what everybody is saying, down tiering it won't do a thing

  • @desertedcake
    @desertedcake Год назад +31

    9.0 SPAA is literal hell. Drones can hit you from 8km but the SPAA guns dont give leads until 3km away. So you have to hide until it gets close enough. The problem is that the drone has used its two AGMs already

    • @nikolaideianov5092
      @nikolaideianov5092 3 месяца назад +1

      From experince even with 10.0 you dont have to deal with drones

    • @ethanjeffries7914
      @ethanjeffries7914 3 месяца назад +1

      ​@@nikolaideianov5092 they removed them

    • @nikolaideianov5092
      @nikolaideianov5092 3 месяца назад +3

      @@ethanjeffries7914 good
      at high br pansirs just kill them as they spawn and at lower brs they are a menece
      just very hard to balance

  • @mrdogeguy3265
    @mrdogeguy3265 Год назад +46

    I remember the good days before Sky Guardians when a single FlaRakRad was effectively an exclusion zone for any aircraft in the sky, now it’s stock missile also present on the FlaRakPz 1 is better in most scenarios
    F for the best AA with the really funny name, you have left a VT-1 shaped hole in my CAS despising heart

    • @halonut96
      @halonut96 3 месяца назад

      yes i do remember the glory days of vt-1

    • @Elaina_The_Ashen
      @Elaina_The_Ashen 3 месяца назад

      Yep I remember, 10 kill matches were a blast

  • @jetnavigator
    @jetnavigator Год назад +29

    Love the subliminal otomatic. A true Warthunder tragedy.

  • @katgut
    @katgut Год назад +30

    Reloading missile vehicles that require some animation really need a destroy last fired missile button

  • @jozopako
    @jozopako Год назад +432

    When it is realistic, people argue that it is OP or weak, when it is balanced people argue that it is not realistic.

    • @MilesK1308
      @MilesK1308 Год назад +1

      The problem is that the vt-1 did not need to be balanced, given that there was just a fuckstupid strong AA added to Russia, so WHY would you proceed to nerf anything that could even potentially stand up to it

    • @lazer2238
      @lazer2238 Год назад +153

      yeah but aircraft are unrealistic as fuck, you cant balance spaa and not balance aircraft, no pilot on earth can pull 13g's without snapping their neck. planes should be limited to 9g and below so its realistic but nooo, cas players have 2 iq and need those free ground kills and give gaijin their money.

    • @carlosniggelson420
      @carlosniggelson420 Год назад +36

      ​@@lazer2238Gaijin doesnt get the G-limits right. The AoA on the F-16 for example should be way higher. It's not a g-limiter, it's an AoA limiter. Also Guided weapons are not effective at anything over 6km. Atleast the TV guided ones. Why? Because they are not guided anymore. They just lock the ground, it's a precision strike.

    • @leovang3425
      @leovang3425 Год назад +46

      Ultimately, it has to be balanced. It's a game first and foremost, not a military simulator.

    • @Lobos222
      @Lobos222 Год назад +59

      @@lazer2238 Lets not forget helicopters pulling serious rotor destroying maneuvers to avoid SAMs without even a warning.

  • @colRobinOlds
    @colRobinOlds Год назад +40

    The quality of this edits is just insane, keep it up and greatness will follow

  • @Narsheo
    @Narsheo Год назад +33

    Extremely fun and interesting video, also very good editing, keep it up

  • @isopod_gaming-real-
    @isopod_gaming-real- Год назад +8

    That was an amazing video, the editing felt good and the way you went about displaying information with a slight sense of humor made a great video.

  • @cryzone2376
    @cryzone2376 Год назад +53

    The missile change wasnt needed
    It litteraly made the game worse in every way at top tier ):
    (And yes of course the pantsirs missiles act like a pre saclos nerf missile)

    • @artic8516
      @artic8516 Год назад +22

      yeah, pantsir is basically the only antiair that is reliable, but also the only antiair that is fuckstupid overpowered

    • @blume3516
      @blume3516 Год назад +14

      @@artic8516 fuckstupid op is quite prominent in the russian tech tree...

    • @mayonotes9849
      @mayonotes9849 Год назад +1

      Yeah I find the Tunguska was good enough for top tier since it has a good balance of strong anti air and anti tank but they royally fucked up the missile to the point it's basically useless.

    • @grudgebearer1404
      @grudgebearer1404 Год назад +1

      ​@@blume3516 Skill issue, premium isn't available to everyone so is more of a premium bias than russian bias as the normal tech tree Russia/USSR is one of the weakest until it get's to top tier were it finally is on equal terms to the other major countries.

    • @RutakoVon
      @RutakoVon Год назад +16

      ​@@grudgebearer1404 are you delusional?

  • @gepard-7854
    @gepard-7854 Год назад +23

    I must say I am very happy that I came across your video on my recommended page. The editing is very professional, I can tell a lot of effort went into this. And the blend between the casual music and the commentary is very nice. Great work! I think you have quite a unique form of content among the many wt youtubers and I can definitely see you becoming popular :D
    As for the topic of the video, the flarakrad, I haven't had any top tier SPAA pre Sky Guardians so I got the Flarak like a week into the update. And I cannot express the amount of disappointment I had when I got the VT1s on it and tried them out for the first time and sometimes I feel like I'd be better off using the Rolands instead or just going with the Flarakpanzer and not being the size of a 2 story building. Having played it in squadron battles as well a bit, it's just outclassed even by SPAA full brs below it, let alone things like the Pantsir or the British Adats. The SACLOS missile change was awful across the board but that's gaijin for ya, wouldn't be them if they changed something that didn't need changing. Can only hope they make them better later on at some point

    • @Its_Me_Romano
      @Its_Me_Romano Год назад

      I don't understand the complaining. I absolutely slap anyone that I pick up with my radar in the flarakrad. I hide in a forest wait for my radar to spot something pop out shoot and move back into hiding

  • @TheKenji2221
    @TheKenji2221 Год назад +55

    The biggest problem with CAS is they are way too manoeuvrable, especially when fully loaded.
    Gaijin has to fix their physics because it doesn't make sense to have these arcade controls

    • @deepbludreams
      @deepbludreams Год назад +7

      exactly, IRL pilots of A10s have said that a full weapon load is like trying to fly a city bus.

    • @pyro7358
      @pyro7358 8 месяцев назад +8

      ​@@deepbludreams that's because the a10 by itself is a heavy slow piece of shit lol

  • @The-Red-Baron
    @The-Red-Baron Год назад +17

    Man, I really love your editing, and how you do your videos.
    Great work. 👌❤

  • @leanderhaydn
    @leanderhaydn Год назад +5

    dude, your videos are so underrated for the amount of work that go in them. amazing video btw

  • @lepershing1902
    @lepershing1902 Год назад +18

    I once had 11 enemy aircraft downed in a single rb ground match. I haven't been able to break that record, I really wish anti-air had more of its holes filled, some tech trees have massive gaps

    • @Nick-bb4nk
      @Nick-bb4nk 3 месяца назад +1

      Did you consider maybe SPAA is waiting until marriage?

  • @tumate45
    @tumate45 Год назад +7

    I definitly mostly amazed by the sweet video editing skills, quite astonoshing really.

  • @axeavier
    @axeavier Год назад +4

    really well edited video, pretty insane how far you went

  • @loge9981
    @loge9981 Год назад +3

    jesus u made the visuals and music go so welll together!

  • @cyberdroid2300
    @cyberdroid2300 Год назад +1

    This was a very pleasant watch, please keep the cinematics up

  • @YosukeMatsuoka08
    @YosukeMatsuoka08 Год назад +6

    Love the video editing and the topic, keep up the good work

  • @thetwistedone05
    @thetwistedone05 Год назад +3

    Very good video. I love the way you edited it and all the work you put into it

  • @snocide8548
    @snocide8548 Год назад +6

    very nice documentation, keep up the quality

  • @bt42_howitzer
    @bt42_howitzer Год назад +1

    actually really well put together video, nice work!

  • @Minedeployder
    @Minedeployder Год назад +1

    Impressive work on this video my dude!
    I also like at least someone says that SPAA not just instakill of all air targets after it spawns.

  • @yeeheckinghaw
    @yeeheckinghaw Год назад +3

    AMAZING editing. Some of the best WT content Ive seen in a minute.

  • @1942ILSX
    @1942ILSX Год назад +8

    When Tor-M1 moving from 11.0 to 11.3 and 11.7, we also calling for not to do that because of worse performance of 9M331, However, gaijin never heard about that.
    9M331’s files were multiply submitted, but they never read. They just balance the game AS THEY WANT.

  • @maximilianmusshoff2733
    @maximilianmusshoff2733 Год назад +6

    Add Pantsir.
    Nerf NATO SPAA.
    Wait 3 major updates before making balancing changes.

  • @Farmuhan
    @Farmuhan Год назад +1

    i love the video presentation. Eventhough it's like a wall text, but the visual make it entertaining yet fun to hear

  • @flashmann7859
    @flashmann7859 Год назад +4

    Wouldn't be Warthunder if Germany didn't suffer.

  • @homefront1999
    @homefront1999 Год назад +33

    Still kind of baffled we haven't gotten something like a " Ditch missile" or " lose track" where you can stop the guidance. It might still fly and hit something. But this way you can fire the next shot if needed. Tbh though, I am both scared and curious on what something like Patriot or BUK Missile systems will be like in the game. I don't know if we will ever even see these things. Maybe if we start getting insanely large maps and SEAD planes. I can see potentially something like early version of the HAWK missile systems coming into the game. I would love to see one of them as Japan's top tier AA.

    • @LeMeowAu
      @LeMeowAu Год назад +2

      Damn im so glad i stopped playing, looks like my rage-delete saved me liters of tears

    • @evo3s75
      @evo3s75 Год назад +1

      yea, Type 93 is def not cutting it as top tier spaa

    • @QwazzyMeows
      @QwazzyMeows Год назад +4

      @@LeMeowAu Honestly if you rage deleted the game, even if they added the blood of christ you'd still find a way to cry about it

    • @LeMeowAu
      @LeMeowAu Год назад

      @@QwazzyMeows hey how much they pay you to slobber the snails cock, aint need me no tears you dont need to cope on my behalf.

    • @UnsungAces
      @UnsungAces Год назад +1

      How would you control it though? Static gameplay only? Patriot systems will have 3 vehicles/trailers MINIMUM, a missile truck, radar truck, and a generator truck

  • @comradewyvern1150
    @comradewyvern1150 Год назад +1

    Your video edits are amazing! Keep it up!

  • @aquaticontent
    @aquaticontent Год назад +2

    this was an absurdly high quality video, wow. good job

  • @javaboii8118
    @javaboii8118 Год назад +4

    This Video was made so beautiful and well. I applaud you. That deserved a follow.
    Great Video and also the VT1 nerf was so out of place.
    Update called Sky Guardians.
    Monkey brain of developers at gaijin thinks sky guardians means to guard the Planes.
    Monkey brain nerf VT1 to hell on a Plattform that is already suffering because of absence of any weaponry. A Stuart can kill you with a machine gun. Meanwhile knowing war thunder, your missles wont even kill him. Especially if he disables your turret Ring. Fml

  • @squiggles5746
    @squiggles5746 Год назад +5

    It wasn't put in patch notes, but I feel like radar tracking for cannon and missile SPAA has been much more jittery and unreliable since sky guardians came out.

  • @OtakuGaming7
    @OtakuGaming7 Год назад +2

    Very nicely produced video btw, keep up the good work bro :) 📈

  • @snowyfox_01
    @snowyfox_01 Год назад +1

    Your thumbnails are absolutely insane, you take really nice screenshots man. I would love to learn how to do so lol

  • @tytusel
    @tytusel Год назад +4

    fully agree, the pre-updated VT1 was a monster bot now it is meh. Also that's some stunning camera movement and editing skills!

    • @Lobos222
      @Lobos222 Год назад +2

      I had the VT1 for two days before it was nerfed...

    • @legaroojack1251
      @legaroojack1251 Год назад +1

      @@Lobos222 I just got it during the nerf...

    • @ommsterlitz1805
      @ommsterlitz1805 Год назад

      Dude don't understand that the only reason why Roland turrets and missiles as well as Crotale are nerfed is because France also have it

  • @remus907
    @remus907 Год назад +3

    I dont play top tier these days, but before sky guardians, the FlakradBUS was the only thing that truly scared me. Always got me with its IRST lock.

  • @sushmitriyanbasuli6889
    @sushmitriyanbasuli6889 2 месяца назад +2

    As an Italian main I usually stick closer to my teammates in FlaRakRad with my Otomatic or SIDAM Mistral. I can take care of any airborne irritants if they get close and the FlaRakRad can bitchslap the kerbal space programs.

  • @MoatHenry356
    @MoatHenry356 Год назад

    Great video! Just got into it to finish the tree. I like it.

  • @Shadowsoul244
    @Shadowsoul244 Год назад +3

    Won't be buffed since it's German, people will complain

  • @Skysiah0503
    @Skysiah0503 Год назад +6

    It’s a better idea to use the previous SPAA as it’s smaller and it’s Roland 3’s are easier to handle, I know the Flarakrad has Roland 3’s but it’s the magic school bus so I’d rather the smaller option

    • @dierare
      @dierare Год назад

      Depends what you prefer, you still get thermals and IRST over the FlaRakPz, even if you just use the Roland 3's.

    • @Count_Gustav
      @Count_Gustav 5 месяцев назад

      Even Ozelot can still capable to deal CAS in 11.7 BR.

  • @Stromoto
    @Stromoto Год назад +1

    Another banger vid. it was really nice to see how well edited they are. Just a quick question, did u make that zoom transition with a blur at 1:38 by urself or did u use a preset and mind asking me what it is?

  • @user-vs5co3so1d
    @user-vs5co3so1d Год назад

    I am having probkems with shilka for like 5 months. And was wondering if it was a nerf or a bug. When i lock the square indicator shakes like crazy and is wayyy off target and the lead is trash. So any idea whats going on?

  • @mental_defect
    @mental_defect Год назад +3

    the thing with the 2S6 is just blatant russian bias. And the fact that gaijin thinks the OTOMATIC, an SPAA which doesnt even have half of the range of the SPAAs at that BR should be higher than the 2s6 is ridiculously awful.

    • @grim2977
      @grim2977 Год назад

      The 2s6 is a skill vehicle since its radar is so bad its easier not to use it

  • @fpsxk
    @fpsxk Год назад +3

    This is just surprisingly underrated

  • @Android_ELITE
    @Android_ELITE Год назад +2

    imo, even though I love my adats and lavad, the pantsir outshines every other high tier aa with the best guns and the best missiles by a long way, literally not even requiring any manual leading adjustments and outranging the practical engage range of every single air to ground weapon in the game by kilometers, which just makes the flarakrad even worse. Many top tier aa units are an instant win button against aircraft, but the pantsir is a special brand of “I have spawned and now I have 3 kills”. The insane vertical sweep on the radar helps too, can’t hide above the search cone when the search cone looks basically fuckin straight up

  • @devinraber5208
    @devinraber5208 11 месяцев назад +2

    This is one of, if not the only, vehicle where I'd agree with the statement Germany suffers

  • @_Peperek
    @_Peperek 3 месяца назад +4

    american 50 cals on tanks is the best AA system

  • @exo068
    @exo068 Год назад +4

    There is a solution for that problem. The experimental HFK/KV a hypersonic version that competed with VT1. With 50km range it would be a good addition against the Pantsir. Also being able to fly Mach 7+ will help.

    • @kazuviking
      @kazuviking Год назад

      The VT1 was never used by the flarakrad so it shouldn't be added to it.

    • @exo068
      @exo068 Год назад +3

      @@kazuviking it was funded by Germany and tested and now they can add the HFK/KV with 50km range.

    • @iluminas2866
      @iluminas2866 Год назад

      actually Mach7+ and 100g pull

    • @exo068
      @exo068 Год назад

      @@iluminas2866 yea I also found the stats on the MBDA page.

    • @kazuviking
      @kazuviking Год назад

      @@exo068 But it was never fitted on the FlaRakRad.

  • @torborgarfsten9480
    @torborgarfsten9480 6 месяцев назад

    Bro the editing on this video just make it infinitely better

  • @negativesike7981
    @negativesike7981 Год назад +1

    i gotta say you literally make the best war thunder videos on the entire platform

  • @iluminas2866
    @iluminas2866 Год назад +4

    The FlRakRad could get another missle that it was planed to get by 2010 but was not introduced called HFK it reaches Mach 7 and could pull100g dont know about the range but it should be alot

    • @calamitist
      @calamitist Год назад +1

      Pulling mach 7, sam missiles are usually guided for 15 seconds
      That's roughly 50km or something

    • @lIllIlllIlIllIlllIlIllIlllIl
      @lIllIlllIlIllIlllIlIllIlllIl Год назад

      100g pull & mach 7? That's way better than even IRS-T SLM which Germany uses today.

    • @iluminas2866
      @iluminas2866 Год назад +1

      @@lIllIlllIlIllIlllIlIllIlllIl yes but its also a way bigger missle

    • @mrprism5382
      @mrprism5382 Год назад

      @calamitist5569 Roughly yes, the HFK also uses lateral thrusters to maneuver, its really interesting

    • @mrprism5382
      @mrprism5382 Год назад

      @lIllIlllIlIllIlllIlIllIlllIl bigger missile and needed to be guided to terminal phase, also probably really really really expensive compared to the SLS

  • @ivancsontos7011
    @ivancsontos7011 Год назад +4

    its quite funny that gaijin thinks the ito, flarakrad and pantsir are at the same effectiveness.

  • @TheEndOfNether
    @TheEndOfNether Год назад

    this video was super well made. keep up the good work

  • @DatInnocentGuy
    @DatInnocentGuy Год назад +1

    Such a well made video. Really nice.

  • @josephthebig2889
    @josephthebig2889 Год назад +3

    Forgor that the Tunguska was also hurt by the missile guidance change and its terrible past 6km and has a similar delay to this, but yes it should not be 11.7.

  • @ryanberry_
    @ryanberry_ Год назад +3

    The VT-1 is borderline unusable in my experience. Such a shame because I really enjoyed the ItO 90. Now the ASRAD/Bolide and Roland 3 missiles are a way better choice for AA. Or a plane with CAP loadout

  • @operatornaut8534
    @operatornaut8534 Год назад +1

    Man needs more damn subscribers this video and commentary was superior then most.
    Also, what outro music was that?

  • @bart_grasmat889
    @bart_grasmat889 3 месяца назад +1

    Excellent video, top quality, amazing!

  • @DominatorLegend
    @DominatorLegend Год назад +3

    Moral of the story: Don't bring an IKEA truck to war

  • @tankistrazumist
    @tankistrazumist Год назад +4

    The video is incomplete without a chronology. gaijin has incredibly increased the maneuverability of all anti-aircraft missiles and ATGMs in the game in update 2.7 (June 2, 2021), after which they all became super maneuverable with nothing like realistic. In March 2023 Gaijin added new physics for some anti-aircraft missiles (VT-1, Tunguska missile and Pantsir). In the future, all other anti-aircraft missiles will have new physics (adats, roland 1/2, etc., all ATGMs (including vikhr)). All that gaijin does is to return for anti-aircraft missiles and ATGMs the effectiveness that they had before patch 2.7. In my opinion, this is fair, the aircraft should be able to evade an anti-aircraft missile using maneuvering.Especially considering that AA costs 6-10 times cheaper than jet.
    upd: I just checked your stats. you don't play on top jets at all in ground RB. At the same time, your k/d on FlaRakRad is 2.01, on tanks - 1-1.5. So you are upset that you are not allowed to shoot down planes as easily as you did before for 80-90SP. I understand

    • @dti1312
      @dti1312 Год назад +3

      It's pretty frustrating to be completely unable to deal with jets because they turned slightly

    • @robertchandler6254
      @robertchandler6254 Год назад +2

      Spoken like a true russia main. Go snort some krokodil.

  • @offcy3318
    @offcy3318 Год назад +1

    You make very good videos with much effort we’ll done

  • @unlink1649
    @unlink1649 Год назад +1

    Holy shit the editing and the music. That is some serious production work. I'm convinced the only reason why the FlaRakRad is 11.7 is because they don't want to bring new SPAA into the game for Germany that would be impossible to balance.

    • @Jan_372
      @Jan_372 Год назад

      @@CREELAST some versions of IRIS-T can be used alone without a seperate radar vehicle

  • @user-su6ts9wm1h
    @user-su6ts9wm1h Год назад +4

    German mains crying that after their SPAA isn't the best for the last couple years 😂
    Love how you didn't mention that Tunguska also uses the nerfed saclos

    • @evo3s75
      @evo3s75 Год назад +2

      he did mention that though? And you're clearly not paying attention if you're saying "German mains crying that after their SPAA isn't the best for the last couple years".. All that he is saying is that the nerfs that the FlaRakRad got make it near useless
      He said that Tunguska went to 10.7 after the saclos nerf but the FlaRakRad even going up to 11.7 despite the saclos nerf and the roland turret, and I was looking forward to getting both the Tunguska and FlaRakRad but ig only the Tunguska is worth getting now..

    • @kubagra456
      @kubagra456 Год назад

      @@evo3s75 maybe try taking a plane to shoot down ones on enemy side just like in all lower br-s where its most effective way...oh well, if you can get one single kill while playing with a tank...

    • @intlon4299
      @intlon4299 Год назад

      @@kubagra456 that isnt possible if russia is on the enemy team… theres no way to bring out a plane if there is a experienced pantsir user

    • @kubagra456
      @kubagra456 Год назад

      @@intlon4299 Well, for some flat maps like Poland thats true, but if you dont get a flat map then you can do some insane strat of... flying low and fast to destroy AA... best if you combine it with firing decoy rockets

    • @intlon4299
      @intlon4299 Год назад

      @@kubagra456 Problem is that you need to also kill the enemies plane while defending the pantsir. Guided munitions can be shot down by it, so you are stuck going low against spaceclimbing mig27s, which makes it hard to launch radar missiles since
      if the enemy is on a very high altitude (very probably) it is going to be too high for you to keep lock while flying straight.

  • @grudgebearer1404
    @grudgebearer1404 Год назад +3

    Hot take: AA should be OP, CAS should be discouraged, plane players can flee to their own gamemode if they don't like it, ground players have no other option.
    But being honest, germany mains deserve every pain they have at top tier for being the bullies of low BR, they are handheld so much they get to top tier without knowing how to properly play, from full ammo rack Leopards to upper front plate shooters Germany has all of those noobs that eventually join the "russian bias" circlejerk

    • @evo3s75
      @evo3s75 Год назад +3

      bro, this isn't Germany mains but just new players paying their way to top tier... I have seen the same with US and USSR happening and I can tell you, as a Germany main which grinded without premium all the way to top tier that I hate such players just as much as you do, but don't just shove it all on us

    • @cardiv5zuikaku944
      @cardiv5zuikaku944 Год назад +2

      +1 on AA Should be OP

  • @lucasguia6030
    @lucasguia6030 Год назад

    Back when I played the FlaRakRad was my favorite vehicle in the game. I was entertaining the thought to come back but this killed that lol. Great vid

  • @jonathonspears7736
    @jonathonspears7736 Год назад

    This is a very well edited video.
    As for the topic, I fully agree with you.

  • @fatchimpanzee
    @fatchimpanzee Год назад

    Thank the lord u made a vid on this issue, I was starting to think I was the only one who noticed this

  • @_burd
    @_burd Год назад

    I see you flashing that OTO.. appreciated ;)

  • @burritodoge8450
    @burritodoge8450 4 месяца назад +1

    I just unlocked my first player-guided AA(Flarakpz 1) and I gotta say, I prefer the Ozelot. Maybe I'm just not used to guiding the missile myself but just one small twitch and the missile goes absolutely crazy and the planes can just easily dip down and dodge the missile compared to when I fire the fire-and-forget stinger missiles. The only downside with the Ozelot is I can't lock helis from more than 2km away while they can shoot missiles at me. You would think that since Roland missiles are player-guided, they should be stable and more maneuverable compared to the stinger where you just look at the distance and direction the plane is heading to get the perfect shot.

  • @JustInYourWalls
    @JustInYourWalls Год назад

    I like the editing of this video :)

  • @missilemans6688
    @missilemans6688 8 месяцев назад

    How do you blur the background in real time in a War Thunder game to get that cinematic feel?

  • @Grimmy_Grimes
    @Grimmy_Grimes Год назад +2

    The production value in this video is off the chain man..

  • @podejrzliwygosc483
    @podejrzliwygosc483 Год назад

    Bro quality of your videos is amazing

  • @dernarb
    @dernarb Год назад

    the eye contact bit was so good i had to sub

  • @Azura1656
    @Azura1656 Год назад

    Thank you for measuring in volts wagons beetles I fully understood once you said that i don't know what a kilometer is.

  • @MrTheCardboardhouse
    @MrTheCardboardhouse 3 месяца назад

    As a ITO enjoyer i am incredibly happy ive been doing as well as i have knowing know about the missle. Ive just kinda learned to deal with it the guidance issues and love close enemy planes. Also great vid, germany suffers

  • @beemy.6923
    @beemy.6923 Год назад +1

    “Have you heard of the tragedy of FlaRakRad the wise?”

  • @ianhuang267
    @ianhuang267 Год назад +1

    A brilliant video, with wonderful cinematic editing, praise your work!
    +1 sub for you.
    Btw, may I grant your permission to translate this video and sent on Bilibili? I wish more ppl could see this.

    • @Pilicast
      @Pilicast  Год назад

      Thank you! You have my permission

  • @uisce_
    @uisce_ Год назад

    What post fx settings do you use? Your style is really engaging

  • @Craigslist16.
    @Craigslist16. Год назад +1

    may i ask what settings you use when in replay mode, i really like the filter or whatever you use to make it more cinematic

    • @Pilicast
      @Pilicast  Год назад

      Most of the color and visual effects done in this were with Premiere Pro and After Effects. Only in-game effect is depth of field which is a nvidia game filter feature

    • @Craigslist16.
      @Craigslist16. Год назад

      @@Pilicast thank you! Is premiere pro free? What do you use to screen record the warthunder replay?

    • @Pilicast
      @Pilicast  Год назад

      @warthunder_mig21 Premiere Pro is a paid app, subscription based like most Adobe products (unfortunately). I use Nvidia Shadowplay, set to 1440p 35 mbps to record

    • @Craigslist16.
      @Craigslist16. Год назад

      @@Pilicast thank you so much! I want to start getting into making warthunder cinematics but I know what to use to edit or how to record

  • @TutterTactics
    @TutterTactics Год назад +1

    with even more changes to beam riding systems coming i imagine gaijin wants to make the IR guided systems more useful. We have vehicles like the LAV AD, gepard stingers, ozelots, strela 10 mtlb, machbet, lists go on but they are all very handy and it pushes players to use spaa foward in the fight vs these missile boats that sit at spawn.

  • @lucascousins6934
    @lucascousins6934 9 месяцев назад +1

    They could always give it the Roland 3 turret, with 2 more launch tubes that have to be reloaded manually. This way you could carry 2 types of missiles. They could also give it the SARH Roland 2 missile for fun

  • @YippingFox
    @YippingFox 3 месяца назад +1

    the reason it went from 11.3 to 11.7 while being nerfed is because the nerf wasn't directed directly at it. And since Gajin only looks at spreadsheets, the system was overperforming and needed to be moved up.

  • @soy1119
    @soy1119 Год назад +1

    people make high quality warthunder content wtf??? this is super cool, gonna watch some other things on ur channel now (and sub)

  • @skipslash7367
    @skipslash7367 Год назад +1

    the quality of these videos is insane

  • @AveragePootis
    @AveragePootis Год назад

    your editing is way too good for just 8,7k subs

  • @ediiorgovan4054
    @ediiorgovan4054 Год назад +1

    this video is so well made

  • @THECHAIR.
    @THECHAIR. Год назад

    really well done video keep it up 👍

  • @youwotmate7705
    @youwotmate7705 Год назад

    That funny tube sound for the heli killed me lmfaooo

  • @TheAustrianAvenger
    @TheAustrianAvenger Год назад

    Did they fix the reload bug on that thing? Or am I the only one rendered useless after firing two missiles?
    Oh and that cinematic footage and the really impressive editing is fantastic! I'm glad I clicked this video