What else should I make an Iceberg video on? *Additions / Corrections:* -Stalin secret picture was user made -Nukes don‘t require 20 kills, you can do it with less. -Vehicle preview images feature was removed -Gaijin was created in Russia, but is now located in Hungary
You don't need 20 kills to get a nuke... you need 2500 spawn points. Which is impacted by other things like capturing points and assists. You see people get them every now and then.
I think that those 20 kills he mentioned are meant for AB becouse in RB you need 11 kills to get a nuke, and yes as mentioned above you can get the nuke by other means than kills but, kills are the fastest way. Correct me if im wrong, i have never had a nuke in AB... And yes nukes arent that rare, i got nuke 3 games in a row... and every 5 games or so someone will drop a nuke. Another factors are teammates, they sometimes decide the game isnt ending yet and shoot you down(never happened to me personaly but i heard few stories), or just enemy looks at the score board and spawns in a plane before you can spawn a nuke to shoot you down once you spawn... And now with reacent update if you get close to spawning a nuke(i think above 2000 sp) the nuke button will apear in your hotbar. Sorry for my grammar mistakes if anyone gets triggered by that.
Is it? I think it is the time of the game world map, I remember when I was in a night map and the clock was at 10:00 PM while in real life here it was daytime
Lol A La Carte. Honestly, at least in Air Arcade, I can get 2-3x the kills, so its more worth for me. Tanks? I could probably work with realistic, but I prefer arcade and get some really good streaks sometimes
@@modernwarfare2hobo Not a fan of arcade because you can always see the enemy, and they can always see you. It makes it much harder to solo carry with holding good angles, timing pushes and flanking. since everyone immediately knows where you are and you cant isolate enemies or beat groups if you sneak up.
On the decal size limit: I read that back then some players put huge black decals on their tanks to look like they are already destroyed and Gaijin implemented the size limits to prevent this exploit.
Good luck. Got on couple days ago and had 2 good games. But both of them my team and me got nuked. Back. To. Back. Have not hopped on ground battles since then.
The "There are no players" part really hit me, ive been playing Warthunder since 2022 and ive never met a single warthunder player in real life. And that really made me wonder if i am just playing again bots.
I've seen two guys, with who I am playing now in warthunder. So, at least they are really alive, can't say similar about the rest of warthunder players... Maybe we are all just an NPCs in simulation world?
Well that’s actually not because top tier planes are not fun but mostly because it has literally the same game mode as low tier planes with one little difference - at low tier anything that is further than 1-2km from you can’t do anything to you while at top tier you literally can be killed by a missile from 50+km and the biggest map is only like 100x100km with 32 planes that potentially can take 2-4 of these missiles. So the other way is play sim, top tier sim is actually muuuuuch more fun than RB just because most of the time it has “realistic” amount of players in matches(4-6 total) which is much better but still maps are way too small for these planes
Honestly the "grind" of War Thunder is so often overemphasized. There is no real grind, its all based on YOU. And theres no reason to go through the tiers anyways. The game is fun and plays fine at tiers 1 and 2 and 3 just fine. Going higher changes nothing, youll still have tanks in BRs higher, and BRs lower than you. Its dumb to "grind", just play the game normally
@@Red-Magic well there’s a huge difference actually. For instance if you face 2.0 plane in 1.0 plane or if you face 5.0 plane on 4.0 plane or even if you face 8.0 plane in 7.0 plane it won’t be much harder to win and it definitely will be doable. But if you face 10.3 plane with all aspect missiles in 9.3 subsonic flareless plane it is a different story, you can win but it will be much harder and in most cases will depend on your opponent skill, not yours. Or if you face something like F-15J in F-4J you literally will have less than 0 chances to win. And the only way to evade situations like this is to get top tier plane that will never face planes that are muuuuch better than your plane until new planes are added and then you get these new planes etc etc
Yeah it also affects certain flight performance too apparently. Not that you can really notice haha. Cool that it exists, feels like one of those legacy features from a time when devs would just "add cool stuff" without having to think if it would actually matter.
@@Polterbunit's very noticeable in spain air battles. While on the literal desert maps you obviously sweat tf out of your engine and quickly heats it up, it's still not as fast as when playing in spain where even if the weather is just tropical, the humidity is high and planes overheats after 5 minutes of full throttle
@@piscessoedroen Yeah lol, you reminded me of that. Spain was always weirdly mega hot. I wonder if humidity effects engines like it does me lol? You'd think a desert would be hotter, but I know that humidity is a crazy modifier at least for me irl.
@@Polterbun Fuck you mean you can't notice it, half the props in-game fly like bricks in hot maps but perform exceptionally well in cold ones. Get your facts straight before you say random bullshit like that
Important point from someone with a modest 4.3k hours in the game, been playing since ~2016, almost exclusively ground forces and 100% free to play: The game actually becomes fun when you don't care about the grind. You don't need that jet, you don't need that MBT. The most memorable round of Warthunder I've ever had was getting 24 kills in a Matilda 2. I could not care less about my T-80U or T-90A, as long as I get to throw in a few rounds in an M24, or T-34-85 or Pz IV F2. The game is at its most enjoyable at the 2.7-6.7 range. If you're playing Warthunder because you're a super-fan of >insert modern combat vehicle/plane< and that's all you want out of the game, Warthunder is not the game for you. There are other games for that, more specialized ones, with smaller playerbases, but they are what you actually want. Also, diversify. Swap what nation you play on a regular basis. Yes, it will turn the incredibly slow progress even slower, but it will actually keep the game fun, rather than a fruitless chase after something that will likely end up disappointing you. It will also make you a better player, giving you a much better understanding of your opposition. And it's an easy fix for the "bias" problem. Play a nation that you think is overpowered and you will very quickly discover that it is likely just as painful as what you were playing previously. Some nations have a good showing at every BR range, the more minor nations tend to have some holes in the range where they're weakly represented, but tend to make up for it in other areas. For anyone wondering how much research you can get done playing in this way, after the aforementioned 4.3k Steam hours spent primarily in Ground RB, these are my highest rated vehicles in the respective tech trees: USA: 7.7 (M48A1) Germany: 8.0 (Leopard 1) USSR: 11.3 (T-80U) Great Britain: 8.7 (Chieftain Mk.3) Japan: 7.3 (Ho-Ri Production) China: 5.0 (Object 211) France: 6.7 (AMX M4) I don't play Italy, Sweden and Israel. Yeah, it's kinda ridiculous that after over 4k hours I don't have any tree maxed (especially considering I rarely touch two thirds of the game in the form of air and sea battles), but I have had the USSR tech tree at completion before, but that was from the time of the T-10M being the top-ranked vehicle until the early T-64s and T-72 were added. Past that I took a major hiatus from WT and I doubt I'll research the T-90M and T-80BVM any time soon, since I'm having much more fun playing China at the moment. The M4/M24/T-34 lineup is effective, fun and fairly easy to reach. After that I've also been enjoying the US 6.7 lineup a lot. Anyway, all this to say that you don't need to invest thousands of hours to have fun in Warthunder, quite the opposite, the more time you invest, the harder you have to keep your perspective on how you can actually enjoy the game. Sidenote, the entire third of the game that is naval battles has to be considered pretty low on the iceberg, seeing how few people play it and how rarely it is mentioned anywhere.
@@dariusweisz7440 M26/T30/T34/T26E4 is an extremely solid core. I think the T30 was an event reward, so you might not have that one, but this is still a very good lineup without it. Garnish with some mobile firepower or aircraft and voila, you have yourself a lineup that can definitely match up with anything you meet at 6.7.
@@Thicc993 Play DCS :( Or prepare to suffer, either by grinding for literal months or shelling out for a premium and getting wrecked by people with hundreds of hours of playtime.
So the game is terribly designed, because it non stop pushes on you the higher tiers and FOMO making the player feel awful in order to make more money. A game should be fun by deafult, if you need to ignore majority of what the game pushes on you, then it's a toxic and badly designed game
I want to add that there is also a secret Hangar Music that randomly might start playing when you have Italy selected, Yes, Bella Ciao is still in the game and it is a random super rare event that can happen and you can listen to it on the hangar.
For the Advance Australia theme, it was originally intended for Australia, thus why some Australian vehicles have the theme, but it was switched to Germany after the original Germany theme, Ride of the Valkyries, was was replaced due to I think Copyright stuff.
Fun fact about S E K R E E E T documents: a friend of mine who enrolled for the german bundeswehr was asked by his supervisor if he knew warzhunder and if he knew anything about sekreeeeeet documents
The mindset that the game can't be beat is one that is all too common, and for good reason, it's easy to just hate the grind and think that it's the only goal, and that's because of the way the game is set up and how it makes money. However, to those who seek enlightenment, one can find the answer to what beating the game truly means, it is to realize that playing what's fun is the true victory of War Thunder. To achieve a state of higher being and enter nirvana, one must detach themselves from the grind, and play the tanks and planes that they find fun, only then will the suffering end. I have been playing the game free to play for years, and during that time I have unlocked hundreds of vehicles, but never did I feel disheartened and sad, for I just played the game for the fun of it, never for the sake of the grind. Head my teachings, share them with those in need, and you shall find peace beneath the cosmos.... at least until the nerf the thing you find fun :)
Honestly, same. I have bought premium vehicles, it no premium time or any of that. I just want some vehicles and play with those. I wanted and abrams and they have a premium abrams. I want a Pershing and unlocked it after a year. I also wanted the Sherman 76 and got it on my way to the Pershing. I just play to get what I want to mess around with. Never have I tried to grind to the top, just til I got my favorite tanks. Now I’m happy. This is the only reason I still play.
this kinda mindset only works for as long as vehicles you enjoy are ww2. I hate ww2 and don't want anything to do with pre-60s stuff so i kinda HAD to grind to get to the fun part.
heratic the weight of your sins shall stay your feet and you will be left behind every tank every plane then and only then will god except you in to the kingdom of heaven lay down your money give your credit card number brothers left your hands praise the snail.
incredibly cringe opinion, the original Warthunder content (pre-1953) is the most realistic and best modeled. The physics engine, game-modes and maps are designed for those vehicles, not for the modern crap. The most skilled players play WW2 exclusively, because high-tier is a poorly designed unbalanced shitshow
*Fun fact:* I filed the suggestion for the IS-7 to be added to the game.....little did I know I would never get to drive it because of the overly ironclad grindfest.
15:30 list extremely funny because in Russia we call WOT "Kartoshka" (literally potato), because world of tanks is made in Belarus, and there is a joke that Belarusians eat only potatoes, build their houses of potatoes, care only about potatoes, drink potatoes and are basically potatoes themselves
but for a game supposedly all about realism, theres no way that is3 wouldve survived, armour integrity is a real thing, the is3 is only cast armour too, not composite or anything but yes, not the best clip to show russian bias, wouldve been better if he showed the any of the later war anything or t-34 mantlet black holes
yes but this is a video game if we are talking about realism half the tanks would have destroyed engines/transmissions before they reached the battlefield@@woober3480
@woober3480 i do wish armor would weaken if you shoot the same place multiple times, but even with that, a t26 has almost no chance of going through an is 3 from the front. Theres a reason nato developed a 120mm that fires heat and apds to counter it.
the fact that stars are astronomicaly accurate is really neat, i noticed it a few weeks ago while in a test drive, i was curious to see if they had put attention to this detail (astronomy is one of my hobbies) and when i saw that i could see Orion and the pleiades i instantly knew that meant the night sky was fully modeled
I used to play Operation Flashpoint from when it came out in 2001 and I was stunned as it was the first game I had ever played that had accurate skybox (ie stars, solar positions, phases of the moon), weather and dynamic sound effects. I am glad that WT does it too.
@@STGSHROOM i have talked with people who has several thousands of hours in the game and gave it a bad review, plus they keep trash talking about the game, but when I tell them the game is bad, they suddenly Switch sides and defend it, these people are conflicted addicted fanatics junkies
A bit more about the music: -The original hangar music isn’t a lab original composition for the game but a Mozart piece (IIRC). -Fittingly for the Russian devs/composers, a lot of the music added for the ground battles is very Russian or Soviet in nature with all the percussion and low brass, which is a really great theme not just for the Russian tanks but the WWII era for ground battles in general -“Advance Australia” is the German menu theme but also plays for Australian vehicles too (or at least it used to? Haven’t played in a while) -There are old themes for the UK that have since been replaced. Both sets of music are pretty good though, although the older music is more evocative of old war thunder and that image of a strapping British pilot with some sense of nobility about him. The new music is much more imperial and grandiose. -The new top tier music pieces always begin with a minute or so for a quiet section that allows for the battle to get started or for planes to get in the air. -The actual war thunder theme was absent from the game for some time after the New Power update and its new theme song (the one with synth and drums at the start). Now, the old theme plays after a nation menu theme finishes (they used to loop) and then goes through other songs from the soundtrack. Also, the only (intentional) photorealistic person in the game is on Bong’s P-38, which has a picture of his wife Marge as it did in reality.
I love their April fools events cause they’re almost always really cool ways to test new features which is such a cool way to do it. Gives people a good way to test things while not changing the actual game before the features are completed
I'm just an Ace Combat fan and I wanted to play other online aircraft games and this and DCS appeared.... Honestly I don't find confortable with one or the other. This is like Gacha Mobages hell or in some ways, even worse
By the way there was also a player strike on war thunder, where a lot of players including myself just didn’t play the game for either a day or 2. Maybe even a week. They also had their favourite and best supporting content creators basically go against them with few also striking. It was beautiful.
I've realised how much I loved Cold War Vehicles from War Thunder after looking them and they History up. The Game taught me more about History then a History Teacher.
That’s only because you didn’t pay attention and didn’t care about the pursuit of knowledge. For you to learn, your low IQ will only permit it through child’s game.
I find it odd that Gaijin doesn’t allow swastikas in War Thunder for German vehicles yet they’ll allow stickers that say “For Stalin” “blood for blood” and “death to German enemies” all in Russian and Czech. You should’ve also included that.
I think the nuke torpedo's came about because of the Submarine April Fools Event. If I'm remembering correctly, they had to increase the damage values of the torpedos for the event to be able to sink submarines. Fortunately for the player base, they used the same models as normal in-game torpedos that could be equipped to planes, or they increased the values for all torpedos for the event, resulting in some really nutty gameplay
12:17 nukes take about 12-14 kills btw…how long did it take for u to make this? Cause the vehicle icon thing changed awhile back…and yes I am a little Sadge about this lol
30:12 Providing fact so you don't have a tendency to kill yourself : War Thunder rule 34 is mostly filled with Daebom's arts but most of them are more sexualise than the original arts, the others arts are just tank become anime girls
Slight Correction: For a nuke in arcade you need to kill 15 players (not including the points you gain over time) In Realistic you need around 10 kills, and also some captures and kill assists, I had 2400 SP and only had 9 kills, but I had 2 captures.
2:20 So free to play huh? Don't you think that all the unrecoverable time that this black hole has stolen from my life is more valuable than money? 😭😭😭
11:50 Incorrect you don't need 20 kills you need ~2500 mission score. So about 10 kills without dying (still possible whilst having death) ALSO fun fact. You can bring the cost of the nuke down with the "Airstrike" modification on light tanks!!
I’d like to just say that the skin they are discussing about on the PE-8 was originally a USER skin that was eventually added in by Gaijin themselves due to the popularity of it. The hidden image was not originally seen by developers until after its addition to the game. Just because the game is developed by a company originally established in a Russian occupied country doesn’t mean it’s any kind of favoritism. It just means it was overlooked at first glance.
I was literally addicted to playing Crossout, another one of Gaijin's games and recently quit. I can't tell you how happy I am with myself. I was depressed and felt like crap while playing the game but was hooked and it was so terribly hard for me to stop. But I have and this iceberg video confirms my will to quit and stay away. Thank you.
The ending had me reflecting on how much this game has shaped who I am. It got me into history, It got me interested in physics and engineering, and now im pursuing a degree in aerospace engineering because this game made me fall in love with aircraft. The game may have its flaws, lots of em, but I will always love it.
Additin to realism: The sun ingame has a heat signature that will cause Air to Air Missles to lock onto it instead of a jet that flies close by so people can use it to confuse missles or prevent lock ons
The seekret documents at 6:01 actually came earlier, Gaijin was making some changes to russian vehicles and they claimed they had better stats, and to back that up they mentioned "Secret documents" that they could not share because they were classified, "but trust us guys they are totally correct and make the vehicles better". Then the community made fun of them, then Gaijin made fun of us by calling some in-game models for a holiday event "sekret documents". The leaking started after that.
13:40 Id like to imagine this happening in court "So what do you find gaijin guilty of?" "Expensive af fpe and parts" "The snail is guilty, charged with giving 500000000 GE"
I have to say, jungle isn’t really a random place in the jungle. It is located on Guadalcanal which was the location of the campaign of the same name. This evident from the text Cape Esperance being visible on the map which is where one of the many night action naval battles took place. Jungle is a little west of where the battle of Alligator Creek happened which was the first major ground action of the Guadalcanal campaign. It’s actually pretty cool
This video made me love the game even more. I played it for being a fun, realist warplanes simulator. But the ammount of details the game has, even the constelations.. it' s amazing.
I had an enemy get a nuke today, the worst part was I was the only fighter and left him alone after I saw the severe damage symbol, he dropped it about 10 seconds later. B-24 bias. Thats the first nuke I've seen explode and I recently got 1980 spawn points, I was so close to getting my own.
What else should I make an Iceberg video on?
*Additions / Corrections:*
-Stalin secret picture was user made
-Nukes don‘t require 20 kills, you can do it with less.
-Vehicle preview images feature was removed
-Gaijin was created in Russia, but is now located in Hungary
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You don't need 20 kills to get a nuke... you need 2500 spawn points. Which is impacted by other things like capturing points and assists. You see people get them every now and then.
He is talking about first nukes that was added to WT: the AB nukes
ty @@dawkon990
does he even play the game? it really doesnt feel like it
I think that those 20 kills he mentioned are meant for AB becouse in RB you need 11 kills to get a nuke, and yes as mentioned above you can get the nuke by other means than kills but, kills are the fastest way. Correct me if im wrong, i have never had a nuke in AB... And yes nukes arent that rare, i got nuke 3 games in a row... and every 5 games or so someone will drop a nuke. Another factors are teammates, they sometimes decide the game isnt ending yet and shoot you down(never happened to me personaly but i heard few stories), or just enemy looks at the score board and spawns in a plane before you can spawn a nuke to shoot you down once you spawn... And now with reacent update if you get close to spawning a nuke(i think above 2000 sp) the nuke button will apear in your hotbar.
Sorry for my grammar mistakes if anyone gets triggered by that.
so you need only to critical damage 40 players XD
In addition to detail: Aircraft with a clock in the cockpit tells you the time on your computer
Is it? I think it is the time of the game world map, I remember when I was in a night map and the clock was at 10:00 PM while in real life here it was daytime
@@gustav4351 No, it should be the time thats on your pc
@@bpop2148 Okay that starts to get scary
@@gabrysmichalek4281 Not at all. Many games use the time on your PC
He’s right
No shot bro said “arcard”
Lol A La Carte. Honestly, at least in Air Arcade, I can get 2-3x the kills, so its more worth for me.
Tanks? I could probably work with realistic, but I prefer arcade and get some really good streaks sometimes
@@modernwarfare2hobo Wrong. You prefer Akart
@@modernwarfare2hobo Not a fan of arcade because you can always see the enemy, and they can always see you. It makes it much harder to solo carry with holding good angles, timing pushes and flanking. since everyone immediately knows where you are and you cant isolate enemies or beat groups if you sneak up.
My favorite mode: Alucard
At first I thought he was taking about the people who play arcade "rtard"
On the decal size limit: I read that back then some players put huge black decals on their tanks to look like they are already destroyed and Gaijin implemented the size limits to prevent this exploit.
ive been there.. been playing WT for a looooooong time now, i think the only game ive spent more hours was Skyrim... so yeah that is true
Players creating effective camoflage: gaijin big mad
Players seal clubbing: gaijin is blind as a bat
Yup! This is the actual reason as far as I'm aware
@jackalhunter7197 can't fix it. And what about grinding nee nations
@@gtaonlineitgoodgame465 I was just complaining, I don't know how to fix it probs just leave it be a let player either sink or swim
Haven’t played War Thunder in a while and “Attack the D point” woke me up like a sleeper agent and now I want to play again
The snail never let your soul escape
You can take the player out of warthunder but you can never take the warthunder out of the player
Good luck. Got on couple days ago and had 2 good games. But both of them my team and me got nuked. Back. To. Back. Have not hopped on ground battles since then.
@@dustinsterling3588just slips back in
Idk how but I come and play that shit game every day 😭 it’s I can’t escape.. but at least I don’t pay the snail 🐌 since a year now
The "There are no players" part really hit me, ive been playing Warthunder since 2022 and ive never met a single warthunder player in real life. And that really made me wonder if i am just playing again bots.
I knew someone at work once who played it.. I always wanted to play with him but he always ghosted me... That thought is starting to haunt me.
@@richardtidmore1828 He is a robot
I've met several. Everytime we were chilling at our PC's and saw the Icon each others Desktop. "Ohh my god! We have to play together!!!"
I've seen two guys, with who I am playing now in warthunder. So, at least they are really alive, can't say similar about the rest of warthunder players... Maybe we are all just an NPCs in simulation world?
i am plaing since i am 8 so around 2017 i have never seeen a person in irl who plaed warthunder for more than 2h
Everyone grinds to top tier…once they get there…they reach true enlightenment and go back to mid or even lower tier for fun
so true
Well that’s actually not because top tier planes are not fun but mostly because it has literally the same game mode as low tier planes with one little difference - at low tier anything that is further than 1-2km from you can’t do anything to you while at top tier you literally can be killed by a missile from 50+km and the biggest map is only like 100x100km with 32 planes that potentially can take 2-4 of these missiles.
So the other way is play sim, top tier sim is actually muuuuuch more fun than RB just because most of the time it has “realistic” amount of players in matches(4-6 total) which is much better but still maps are way too small for these planes
My exact situation lol
Honestly the "grind" of War Thunder is so often overemphasized. There is no real grind, its all based on YOU. And theres no reason to go through the tiers anyways. The game is fun and plays fine at tiers 1 and 2 and 3 just fine. Going higher changes nothing, youll still have tanks in BRs higher, and BRs lower than you. Its dumb to "grind", just play the game normally
@@Red-Magic well there’s a huge difference actually. For instance if you face 2.0 plane in 1.0 plane or if you face 5.0 plane on 4.0 plane or even if you face 8.0 plane in 7.0 plane it won’t be much harder to win and it definitely will be doable. But if you face 10.3 plane with all aspect missiles in 9.3 subsonic flareless plane it is a different story, you can win but it will be much harder and in most cases will depend on your opponent skill, not yours. Or if you face something like F-15J in F-4J you literally will have less than 0 chances to win. And the only way to evade situations like this is to get top tier plane that will never face planes that are muuuuch better than your plane until new planes are added and then you get these new planes etc etc
7:04 sadly the image thingy for vehicles got removed , its sad they gave every vehicle a soul now its just a 3d models image
Yeah it was so nice to scroll through the tech trees
for real i hope they bring it back as an option. liked those.
its also very cool to see the image quality get better as you go down
Yeah idk why tf they changed that
i always thought they were shitty lookin
Bro forgot about the basement guy💀
The basement guy is so locked that nobody rememer him talking about WarThunder YT shorts
7:02 Apparently, the weather affects shell velocity. The colder it is, the more your shell will drop.
Yeah it also affects certain flight performance too apparently. Not that you can really notice haha. Cool that it exists, feels like one of those legacy features from a time when devs would just "add cool stuff" without having to think if it would actually matter.
@@Polterbunit's very noticeable in spain air battles. While on the literal desert maps you obviously sweat tf out of your engine and quickly heats it up, it's still not as fast as when playing in spain where even if the weather is just tropical, the humidity is high and planes overheats after 5 minutes of full throttle
@@piscessoedroen Yeah lol, you reminded me of that. Spain was always weirdly mega hot. I wonder if humidity effects engines like it does me lol? You'd think a desert would be hotter, but I know that humidity is a crazy modifier at least for me irl.
@@Polterbun Fuck you mean you can't notice it, half the props in-game fly like bricks in hot maps but perform exceptionally well in cold ones. Get your facts straight before you say random bullshit like that
Bro said weather affects shell velocity
Easy way to skip the "Grind" is to sell your soul to the Snail and market their game to millions of people world wide💀
Shit works exactly like the flying Dutchman
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now thats deep... and you're GUILTY too!!! anyway whens the air test flight any vehicle coming out
War thunder has actually gotten a lot better lately as far as grind goes. It used to be MUCH worse and it hit mostly negative on steam because of it.
Ending hit like a freight train
That ending hit me hard
Really made me think, with all it's flaws and gaijin's terrible practices, War thunder doesn't deserve and shouldn't ever be shut down
The ending was like Call of duty World at war ending
Important point from someone with a modest 4.3k hours in the game, been playing since ~2016, almost exclusively ground forces and 100% free to play: The game actually becomes fun when you don't care about the grind. You don't need that jet, you don't need that MBT. The most memorable round of Warthunder I've ever had was getting 24 kills in a Matilda 2. I could not care less about my T-80U or T-90A, as long as I get to throw in a few rounds in an M24, or T-34-85 or Pz IV F2. The game is at its most enjoyable at the 2.7-6.7 range. If you're playing Warthunder because you're a super-fan of >insert modern combat vehicle/plane< and that's all you want out of the game, Warthunder is not the game for you. There are other games for that, more specialized ones, with smaller playerbases, but they are what you actually want.
Also, diversify. Swap what nation you play on a regular basis. Yes, it will turn the incredibly slow progress even slower, but it will actually keep the game fun, rather than a fruitless chase after something that will likely end up disappointing you. It will also make you a better player, giving you a much better understanding of your opposition. And it's an easy fix for the "bias" problem. Play a nation that you think is overpowered and you will very quickly discover that it is likely just as painful as what you were playing previously. Some nations have a good showing at every BR range, the more minor nations tend to have some holes in the range where they're weakly represented, but tend to make up for it in other areas.
For anyone wondering how much research you can get done playing in this way, after the aforementioned 4.3k Steam hours spent primarily in Ground RB, these are my highest rated vehicles in the respective tech trees:
USA: 7.7 (M48A1)
Germany: 8.0 (Leopard 1)
USSR: 11.3 (T-80U)
Great Britain: 8.7 (Chieftain Mk.3)
Japan: 7.3 (Ho-Ri Production)
China: 5.0 (Object 211)
France: 6.7 (AMX M4)
I don't play Italy, Sweden and Israel. Yeah, it's kinda ridiculous that after over 4k hours I don't have any tree maxed (especially considering I rarely touch two thirds of the game in the form of air and sea battles), but I have had the USSR tech tree at completion before, but that was from the time of the T-10M being the top-ranked vehicle until the early T-64s and T-72 were added. Past that I took a major hiatus from WT and I doubt I'll research the T-90M and T-80BVM any time soon, since I'm having much more fun playing China at the moment. The M4/M24/T-34 lineup is effective, fun and fairly easy to reach. After that I've also been enjoying the US 6.7 lineup a lot. Anyway, all this to say that you don't need to invest thousands of hours to have fun in Warthunder, quite the opposite, the more time you invest, the harder you have to keep your perspective on how you can actually enjoy the game.
Sidenote, the entire third of the game that is naval battles has to be considered pretty low on the iceberg, seeing how few people play it and how rarely it is mentioned anywhere.
i hate the US 6.7 lineup... terrible guns and weak armor... but i like germany 8.7-9.3 and germany 6.7 is awesome too
@@dariusweisz7440
M26/T30/T34/T26E4 is an extremely solid core. I think the T30 was an event reward, so you might not have that one, but this is still a very good lineup without it. Garnish with some mobile firepower or aircraft and voila, you have yourself a lineup that can definitely match up with anything you meet at 6.7.
But what if I want a jet lmao
@@Thicc993 Play DCS :(
Or prepare to suffer, either by grinding for literal months or shelling out for a premium and getting wrecked by people with hundreds of hours of playtime.
So the game is terribly designed, because it non stop pushes on you the higher tiers and FOMO making the player feel awful in order to make more money. A game should be fun by deafult, if you need to ignore majority of what the game pushes on you, then it's a toxic and badly designed game
Im addicted to these "warthunder history" videos. Ive rewatched this 100 times already
I want to add that there is also a secret Hangar Music that randomly might start playing when you have Italy selected, Yes, Bella Ciao is still in the game and it is a random super rare event that can happen and you can listen to it on the hangar.
For the Advance Australia theme, it was originally intended for Australia, thus why some Australian vehicles have the theme, but it was switched to Germany after the original Germany theme, Ride of the Valkyries, was was replaced due to I think Copyright stuff.
Advance Australia? More like Advance Austria
Fun fact about S E K R E E E T documents: a friend of mine who enrolled for the german bundeswehr was asked by his supervisor if he knew warzhunder and if he knew anything about sekreeeeeet documents
The mindset that the game can't be beat is one that is all too common, and for good reason, it's easy to just hate the grind and think that it's the only goal, and that's because of the way the game is set up and how it makes money.
However, to those who seek enlightenment, one can find the answer to what beating the game truly means, it is to realize that playing what's fun is the true victory of War Thunder. To achieve a state of higher being and enter nirvana, one must detach themselves from the grind, and play the tanks and planes that they find fun, only then will the suffering end.
I have been playing the game free to play for years, and during that time I have unlocked hundreds of vehicles, but never did I feel disheartened and sad, for I just played the game for the fun of it, never for the sake of the grind.
Head my teachings, share them with those in need, and you shall find peace beneath the cosmos....
at least until the nerf the thing you find fun :)
Honestly, same. I have bought premium vehicles, it no premium time or any of that. I just want some vehicles and play with those. I wanted and abrams and they have a premium abrams. I want a Pershing and unlocked it after a year. I also wanted the Sherman 76 and got it on my way to the Pershing. I just play to get what I want to mess around with. Never have I tried to grind to the top, just til I got my favorite tanks. Now I’m happy. This is the only reason I still play.
this kinda mindset only works for as long as vehicles you enjoy are ww2.
I hate ww2 and don't want anything to do with pre-60s stuff so i kinda HAD to grind to get to the fun part.
heratic the weight of your sins shall stay your feet and you will be left behind every tank every plane then and only then will god except you in to the kingdom of heaven lay down your money give your credit card number brothers left your hands praise the snail.
Woaaah WarThunder Buddha showing us the path to nirvana
incredibly cringe opinion, the original Warthunder content (pre-1953) is the most realistic and best modeled. The physics engine, game-modes and maps are designed for those vehicles, not for the modern crap. The most skilled players play WW2 exclusively, because high-tier is a poorly designed unbalanced shitshow
Maybe the real D point is the friends we made along the way
more like the people we push into oncoming fire
ATTACK THE D POINT 🔥🔥🗣🗣🗣
@@Agent3030-h1uNo!
*Fun fact:* I filed the suggestion for the IS-7 to be added to the game.....little did I know I would never get to drive it because of the overly ironclad grindfest.
15:30 list extremely funny because in Russia we call WOT "Kartoshka" (literally potato), because world of tanks is made in Belarus, and there is a joke that Belarusians eat only potatoes, build their houses of potatoes, care only about potatoes, drink potatoes and are basically potatoes themselves
for the is3 clip at 10:24, they were all shooting the strongest part and the comment section was annihilating the original poster for his stupidity
but for a game supposedly all about realism, theres no way that is3 wouldve survived, armour integrity is a real thing, the is3 is only cast armour too, not composite or anything
but yes, not the best clip to show russian bias, wouldve been better if he showed the any of the later war anything or t-34 mantlet black holes
yes but this is a video game if we are talking about realism half the tanks would have destroyed engines/transmissions before they reached the battlefield@@woober3480
@woober3480 i do wish armor would weaken if you shoot the same place multiple times, but even with that, a t26 has almost no chance of going through an is 3 from the front. Theres a reason nato developed a 120mm that fires heat and apds to counter it.
@@woober3480 i wish we had armour integrity mechanic in this game
Tigers used to eat rounds
the fact that stars are astronomicaly accurate is really neat, i noticed it a few weeks ago while in a test drive, i was curious to see if they had put attention to this detail (astronomy is one of my hobbies) and when i saw that i could see Orion and the pleiades i instantly knew that meant the night sky was fully modeled
I used to play Operation Flashpoint from when it came out in 2001 and I was stunned as it was the first game I had ever played that had accurate skybox (ie stars, solar positions, phases of the moon), weather and dynamic sound effects. I am glad that WT does it too.
War thunder grind is like taxes. You can't run away from it and if you try you won't succeed.
Quick note on War Thunder Nukes. For GAB, you need around 15 kills for a nukes if I recall. But for GRB you need 2500 SP.
It depends i nuked 3 times in GRB and i had around 9 to 12 kills everytime
@@Lexus-fo3ey yeah, I’m GAB it’s 15 I think, but for GRB it’s 2500 SP.
@@fembillis it possible to gain 15 on GAB? I might never had a match that lasted as slow as possible to gain 15 hit
yeah it used to be 5000sp so around 20 kills and they changed it within a few months if I remember correctly.
It’s kinda rare, but doable.
Don't disturb the snail and its fanatics
Your damm right I got it to a agruement over tanks with one of my classmates and I deleted his house with a Cobra atack helicopter
@@STGSHROOM i have talked with people who has several thousands of hours in the game and gave it a bad review, plus they keep trash talking about the game, but when I tell them the game is bad, they suddenly Switch sides and defend it, these people are conflicted addicted fanatics junkies
haha I won't
@@PlayerAfricanChieften many free games are bad but addictive. Everyone who plays them hates them but doesn't stop because they're addicted.
@@PlayerAfricanChieftenyea we are mad addicted 🥲 I reinstall it everytime it’s idk my friends play it and I come back every fucking day
You know the iceberg is gonna go hard when the first point on the second tier is leaked classified documents
A bit more about the music:
-The original hangar music isn’t a lab original composition for the game but a Mozart piece (IIRC).
-Fittingly for the Russian devs/composers, a lot of the music added for the ground battles is very Russian or Soviet in nature with all the percussion and low brass, which is a really great theme not just for the Russian tanks but the WWII era for ground battles in general
-“Advance Australia” is the German menu theme but also plays for Australian vehicles too (or at least it used to? Haven’t played in a while)
-There are old themes for the UK that have since been replaced. Both sets of music are pretty good though, although the older music is more evocative of old war thunder and that image of a strapping British pilot with some sense of nobility about him. The new music is much more imperial and grandiose.
-The new top tier music pieces always begin with a minute or so for a quiet section that allows for the battle to get started or for planes to get in the air.
-The actual war thunder theme was absent from the game for some time after the New Power update and its new theme song (the one with synth and drums at the start). Now, the old theme plays after a nation menu theme finishes (they used to loop) and then goes through other songs from the soundtrack.
Also, the only (intentional) photorealistic person in the game is on Bong’s P-38, which has a picture of his wife Marge as it did in reality.
The original hanger music was a playlist of 5-6 different tracks, one of which was Beethoven's symphony #7
@@KekusMagnus 'Beethoven' and 'based' both start with the letter 'B'. Coincidence? Hah... I think not 😎
I met a WT player in the wild at a gas station, younger lad probably a Jr in HS. This was also in a super rural area. They're out there.
Sold my wife to continue paying the bills and paying warthunder 🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣
Based. Disregard f*males, acquire vehicles.
Why’d you feed the snail?!
Feed your family to the snail
Bro is very dedicated to war thunder
🗿
the stalin camo was user made bro
Blyat
25:09
Isn‘t the PE-8 with a picture of Stalin in the back a user created skin and has nothing to do with Gaijin?
The TRUE LORE:
How to get unconscious by a 152mm shell
April fools for 2017 was actually inasne if you played a ton back then... this was the era when there were no modern era vehicles.
I love their April fools events cause they’re almost always really cool ways to test new features which is such a cool way to do it. Gives people a good way to test things while not changing the actual game before the features are completed
There's no way it's that old
@@castor2000 it is! I still have nightmares about bombing the snail over and over and over again.....
Really cool of you to link your sources, I think it is a shame that more people don't do it. I was very happy to find the war thunder real life maps🙏
comment if you hate gaijin
damn you gaijin
The snail is coming for you 💀
THE SNAIL IS COMING
THE SNAIL IS COMING
THE SNAIL IS COMING
THE SNAIL IS COMING
THE SNAIL IS COMING
THE SNAIL IS COMING
@@DS_mogame let them come, I have canadian geese on my side. (aka the most hateful and demonic thing to exist)
TRAITOR
ATTACK THE D POINT!
I've been spamming it for a decade. Help.
Affirmative!
Negative! Defend the D point!
Never !
I refuse!
Leading for landing
I started tearing at the end for some reason it made me emotional at the lore part when you were talking
I have seen exactly 3 war thunder players in real life. Sharing such a fact about yourself is the same as condemning yourself to damnation.
i only know one, and its my friend lolol
One of us... One of us... One of us...
Yay
The basement guy truly is a chad.
Ah yes *WAR* an infinity pool of ideas to squash someone from any range , any angle , any location and and anytime ...
right when it said "days before May 2023" (21:25) it cut to a War Thunder ad for me lol
hilarious timing
You Don't need 20 kills for a nuke, my last one was with 11 kills, 4 assists and 2 caps, and I even died once
this was the best youtube video i’ve seen this month ❤
i wake up everyday and thank god for not being a WT player
I'm just an Ace Combat fan and I wanted to play other online aircraft games and this and DCS appeared.... Honestly I don't find confortable with one or the other. This is like Gacha Mobages hell or in some ways, even worse
@@NCC-0000 dcs its alright but wt hell naw
@@GVM-Pixy Yeah I saw some videos of DCS and looks fine, more learning and more PC resource intensive, but seems better than WT.
By the way there was also a player strike on war thunder, where a lot of players including myself just didn’t play the game for either a day or 2. Maybe even a week. They also had their favourite and best supporting content creators basically go against them with few also striking. It was beautiful.
Yeah, the boycott thingy which Gaijin responded by releasing 2 dakimakuras for logging in
@@_ichsanni8294 which did nothing from memory
Hi Ian - you probably won’t see this but I wanted to say your video inspired me to make my own iceberg video!
Yo so this is where you got the idea for the iceberg video
@ yes :)
@@thesnazzycomet I’m starting to grind mid tier air is there any thing that I should know?
@@XWINGMAN_X just take your time and have fun - don't rush to top tier
I got 5 war thunder ads while watching this video
Gajin is watching
Quck tip if you want to watch RUclips without ads just watch on TV
you forgot something big: War thunder doesn’t have wind
ahhh yes it does,watch the tree's in ground rb,and contrails,etc,etc.
@@bafalconbafalcon3184 it doesn’t have wind that affect planes
As an Aussie, What would happen to me if I listened to advance Australian.
Would my ground harness not be needed any more?
I've realised how much I loved Cold War Vehicles from War Thunder after looking them and they History up.
The Game taught me more about History then a History Teacher.
So true! The history behind the Conqueror in particular is really fascinating to me.
Because your history teacher is supposed to teach a bit of everything, get the fuck outta here with that mmmmmm bullshiiiiiiiiit
That’s only because you didn’t pay attention and didn’t care about the pursuit of knowledge. For you to learn, your low IQ will only permit it through child’s game.
I find it odd that Gaijin doesn’t allow swastikas in War Thunder for German vehicles yet they’ll allow stickers that say “For Stalin” “blood for blood” and “death to German enemies” all in Russian and Czech. You should’ve also included that.
they do allow swastikas in game you won't get banned for using a historically accurate user skin
@@mazdarx-8rotary.97because no one else can see the user skins
@@aregulargenericname8794well at the time it was introduced you could
It's a ruzzian company so Stalin is a good guy for them.
cuz it is literally banned in germany.
I think the nuke torpedo's came about because of the Submarine April Fools Event. If I'm remembering correctly, they had to increase the damage values of the torpedos for the event to be able to sink submarines. Fortunately for the player base, they used the same models as normal in-game torpedos that could be equipped to planes, or they increased the values for all torpedos for the event, resulting in some really nutty gameplay
Fun fact about the first wave of body pillows in game; they're made by a youtuber called Daebom.
Aracde...arcade...arcade.
Bruh skill issue😂
Fr
Arcarde
Let people play in arcade bruh, its just goofy and fun, I used to play some arcade
Arcade
18:46 it's 100 percent for pilots orientation
12:17 nukes take about 12-14 kills btw…how long did it take for u to make this? Cause the vehicle icon thing changed awhile back…and yes I am a little Sadge about this lol
I think I’ve done it with only 10 kills, but also other things like assists and base caps to get enough spawn points
@@BL4CKOUT7 Dude had like 7 kills one time. I hate the nuke mechanic so much for the f466it farmers ruining an otherwise fun match.
@@BL4CKOUT7 got one with 9 kills yesterday, capping flags and assists make a big contribution
i have been looking for that song, and who knew just watching this would let me find it, thanks
30:12
Providing fact so you don't have a tendency to kill yourself : War Thunder rule 34 is mostly filled with Daebom's arts but most of them are more sexualise than the original arts, the others arts are just tank become anime girls
I knew it was Daebom I watch their content way too much
Oh and I support them on Patreon now shut up
Hear me out on the Blackburn buccaneer one
@@princeinpveyes good enough
Literally Martincitopants Video Beginning, I love it!
The best way to start ❤
One of the most underrated RUclipsrs I ever seen keep it up
Appreciate that
I JUST GOT A WAR THUNDER HAD WHILE YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE LEAKED DOCUMENTS HELP LMAOOO 😭
Fun fact about War thunder rule 34....
90% of it is from a single and popular artist in the Warthunder Community
Daebom?
Daebom....
Patreon leaks into the r34 page from time to time
Why do I get the feeling I know exactly what it is
Darvon tomfoolery
Slight Correction: For a nuke in arcade you need to kill 15 players (not including the points you gain over time)
In Realistic you need around 10 kills, and also some captures and kill assists, I had 2400 SP and only had 9 kills, but I had 2 captures.
9 kills annd using temmates as baits all time. very very funny, is it?
@@fabioartoscassone9305 real
@@fabioartoscassone9305 what?
@@fabioartoscassone9305 Its not his fault all the German mains only look forward.
@@fledthehunter5293 i see russian players runnign to spawn points. when u have a russian in same team, loss is SURE
I got a War Thunder ad before watching the video
the fact that i knew war thunder lore 5 months after starting playing before watching this is crazy
2:20 So free to play huh? Don't you think that all the unrecoverable time that this black hole has stolen from my life is more valuable than money? 😭😭😭
Free to play as in the snail is free to take your soul if you play this for too long
My war thunder account is 10 years old. I still love it 😊
Great vid havent watched it yet tho
Edit: im 7 minutes in, and i feel like attacking the D point
lmao
Attack the…uhhh…E point!!
34:00 He never says he got it from playing WarThunder. He only says he got it from playing video games.
There is no games with t90m and bradley with realistic damage ohysics tho...
But it can be pretty easily assumed it’s War Thunder, since that’s the only game that somewhat accurately models both the Bradley and T-90m
Bro not the Captain Garrison speech from Battlefield 4..tugging at my heartstrings and hitting me right in the nostalgia.
The ending is strong, unusual and thought-provoking. Nice video 👍👏✨
Why does he say "arcard"
German I guess
i was thinkin because it sounds like tard
When the snail eventually “runs out” of vehicles they will probably do more variants and I hate to say….. paper tanks.
I've only meet one War Thunder player irl, AND HE WAS AN ITALIAN MAIN. OH LORD THE BOT PLAYER THEORY WAS REAL
11:50
Incorrect you don't need 20 kills you need ~2500 mission score. So about 10 kills without dying (still possible whilst having death) ALSO fun fact. You can bring the cost of the nuke down with the "Airstrike" modification on light tanks!!
Like the t-50
I’d like to just say that the skin they are discussing about on the PE-8 was originally a USER skin that was eventually added in by Gaijin themselves due to the popularity of it. The hidden image was not originally seen by developers until after its addition to the game. Just because the game is developed by a company originally established in a Russian occupied country doesn’t mean it’s any kind of favoritism. It just means it was overlooked at first glance.
He forgot to mention the cheater playerbase....
You mean China?
19:29 you caught me off guard on this lmfao
this was a good watch, keep it up man
37:06 Da Real lore of Warthunder são os amigos que fizemos pelo caminho
I was literally addicted to playing Crossout, another one of Gaijin's games and recently quit. I can't tell you how happy I am with myself. I was depressed and felt like crap while playing the game but was hooked and it was so terribly hard for me to stop. But I have and this iceberg video confirms my will to quit and stay away. Thank you.
The ending had me reflecting on how much this game has shaped who I am. It got me into history, It got me interested in physics and engineering, and now im pursuing a degree in aerospace engineering because this game made me fall in love with aircraft. The game may have its flaws, lots of em, but I will always love it.
Bro got gaijind
“Most realistic” DCS: “step aside little one”
DCS is war thunder, but actually fun.
@@4tbf616 just compare the DCS F4 Phantom to any War Thunder F4 Phantom.
It just demonstrates how lazy Gajin is
Additin to realism: The sun ingame has a heat signature that will cause Air to Air Missles to lock onto it instead of a jet that flies close by so people can use it to confuse missles or prevent lock ons
30:50 I know 2 players
Plane claps tank 3:30😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂 that was gold
The seekret documents at 6:01 actually came earlier, Gaijin was making some changes to russian vehicles and they claimed they had better stats, and to back that up they mentioned "Secret documents" that they could not share because they were classified, "but trust us guys they are totally correct and make the vehicles better". Then the community made fun of them, then Gaijin made fun of us by calling some in-game models for a holiday event "sekret documents". The leaking started after that.
ar what?? 3:08
Arcard
13:40
Id like to imagine this happening in court
"So what do you find gaijin guilty of?"
"Expensive af fpe and parts"
"The snail is guilty, charged with giving 500000000 GE"
I literally started playing War Thunder because “Fuck world of tanks I want to play the one with the Classified Document Leaks”
I have to say, jungle isn’t really a random place in the jungle. It is located on Guadalcanal which was the location of the campaign of the same name. This evident from the text Cape Esperance being visible on the map which is where one of the many night action naval battles took place. Jungle is a little west of where the battle of Alligator Creek happened which was the first major ground action of the Guadalcanal campaign. It’s actually pretty cool
Well made, I especially appreciate the separation into chapters
The message at the end really hit
This video made me love the game even more. I played it for being a fun, realist warplanes simulator. But the ammount of details the game has, even the constelations.. it' s amazing.
its true that i have never meet another war thunder player in real life
I got a war Thunder ad on this video the snail knows my every move
I had an enemy get a nuke today, the worst part was I was the only fighter and left him alone after I saw the severe damage symbol, he dropped it about 10 seconds later.
B-24 bias.
Thats the first nuke I've seen explode and I recently got 1980 spawn points, I was so close to getting my own.