Man, you probably never played with hexagonal barrels and the models that could not push each other or lift the tracks off the ground. The “from 2017 onwards” is probably true though.
i played from late 2011, now didn't play for quite a while and i really forgot how many things changed. This video was a nice memory refresher. It used to be a good game
I remember playing this shit back in the day, when Type 59s were terror incarnate and T-50-2 were screaming around glued to the ground by the OG physics, eating artillery alive in every match.
Goddamn Type 59s were such complete bullshit back then. Better armor than most heavier, better mobility than most mediums, punchy gun that seemed to go through everything. I remember a game where there was a full platoon of them from some unicum clan, OTTER maybe, and I just said fuck it, alt-tabbed, and went and took a shit instead of playing that game. It actually wound up being close and we might have won if I hadn't AFK'd.
@@BigIronEnjoyer 200mm front :D it is a joke now. Powercreep is real :D well i stoped playing years ago but this tank was so much fun. not good fpr the game but fun :D if you had it
We also still have a tech tree that's more similar to old versions of PC WoT, like the Obj. 263 and FV4202 at tier X You can still buy gold rounds with gold too lol
In a month, I reach 10 years playing WoT and holy shit, all that old footage + the old garage background music you used. You gave me that much of nostalgia and you made me realize that the game I loved is long gone and it won't return... All those maps like Port etc etc, that depressing but cool in the same time garage. That mm, those tanks with weakspots. And not only that you made me remind the whole era, me coming from home after school. Thank you for reminding me what WOT used to be.
Man.... I loved those old maps.. I was a mountain goat😂 after 10years I cant belive how much the game have changed.. When they remowed the WT Auf E100 I deleted the game for a month... now looking back at the game I wish World of Tanks wouldn't have ebrs, M-V-Y s and others.. this game was awesome back then, but now its a joke... I started playing when i was 5🙂
Your comment just made me realise that in a few weeks it's been 9 years since I've STOPPED playing WoT. Damn the time flies by. But every time i see, what the game has become, I'm not sad about not playing it anymore
@@Lordy243 same I quit 2-3 years before I grad high school. I’m 21 now. Kinda glad I got into making money rather than wasting my life on a game that would have turned to trash
Yeah, i used to play it a lot, but then I quit because of work and school, not long ago i redownloaded the game and it's a whole different one, definitely not the WoT that i used to enjoy
Loved this video. I also remember that one halloween event where you played either one of two French superheavies. There was even a working two-turret mechanic that it seemed WG was trying out, giving hope to those that wanted M3 Lee to eventually become playable.
That seemed incredibly hacked together so it makes me think it wasn't very functional and needed more time to cook. Also, there was a shortage (at the time, at least) of potential high-tier multiturrets since most of the historical ones reside at no higher than Tier 5, maybe 6.
Played since 2012 so i experienced pretty much everything in this video. I actually loved playing historical battles with crappy low tier tanks and hunting those big scary beasts, it was so rewarding. Unfortunately majority of players wanted to play high tiers so queue times for this mode were unbearable.
When the historical battles were a thing, I was in contact with WG for some more historical stuff organized by the community (or by me) They were pretty hyped after looking at my scetches, and the talks were pretty advanced (like rewards for the best players or combining the replays into a documentary about this specific battle), but then the game mode got scrapped and I've never heard of them :D
@@DaKea90 like the people who designed a ship for wows and were in contact with higher ups about it being added then they added a completely different ship and said it’s the ship that was supposed to be your ship but we changed it with out telling you lol.
My experience with 'historical battles' was they were so poorly thought out that one side dominated...so most people didn't want to play the mode at all, and those that did mostly wanted to play the OP side...leading to long wait times, lowering the numbers even further. The low numbers were blamed for the inevitable cancellation.
@@Ocrilat it was probably better than historical battles on wows as the Germans never won due to their play style and you couldn’t use the Japanese except for Kaga only because the Germans didn’t have a CV while the Allies in the mode had a choice of 3.
The deepest lore: wargaming bought up the company that made the bigworld engine to stop having to ask them for licensing permission each update they released. Wargaming (which is a belarussion company coming from minsk) bought up a bank in cyprus to circumvent trade embargos on payment processesing between it and europe and america. World of tanks is one of the highest earning games rivalling WoW, LoL and the likes and has been consistently in the top 10 of highes earnings in games There is a picture of serb with MLP figurines and a picture of stalin behind him a few tanks used to have holes in their hitbox, meaning they couldnt be damaged in some places
In OG World of Tanks, Maus had 2 zero armor zones on the front just above the tracks. Tier 1 tanks could damage it, the lowest pen HE rounds always did full pen damage. I'm 100% convince this was intentional, and it took YEARS to get fixed.
Dude, to have this all documented, edited and commented; it's insane work for which I want to show my respects. This must have cost you hours; but it was fun to watch and I learnt a thing or two. thanks a lot!
Fun fact, in Wargaming's crusade against climbing and exploring "unfavorable" locations, they also changed the water physics to destroy all of your momentum and speed, locking players out of many islands and obscure hiding spots that they used to be able to visit.
An average NA player: “Wow, they didn’t have extra penetration shells for silver? That’s crazy!” Me, a Russian, who played from 2011 till 2017, thinking every minute: “Wait, they removed what? What, that tank/mode/friendly fire/map/mechanic is gone? That’s crazy!” A very enjoyable and nostalgic video for me, and there is actually much more about the game that can still be added! How about the fact that the game was so low-poly, that even all the barrels of tank cannons were hexagonal? Or that when they started to add “HD” models they were added incrementally, patch by patch, and the easiest way to tell the new models apart were, well, actual circles in the models? How about some old events - one of the first was a secret game mode that promoted the “White Tiger” movie, where if you would queue in a T-34-85 you would have a chance to get an match on Komarin, (since removed) where all the player tanks would be only T-34-85 and a white Tiger with like 10k health, and a damage of 750 would spawn to be defeated for a special achievement? Or old maps? The ones that were overhauled, like El-Haluuf? There was an insane steep hill to be climbed in the upper left corner, a hell for all the heavies. Or the fact that the dead tanks used to be immovable, and there were actual tactics that evolved strategic deaths in choke points, like sacrificing a light tank to block the thin road that overlooks the lake and the village on the, whatsit, Lakeshire? Lakeville? Oh man, the memories…
I am an NA player who started back in 2012 and I also was going oh right they did remove that, or shit I remember starting my grind for the Chaffee back when it was the end of the LT line. Also my dad played the shit out of his t18 back in the day.
35:02 I am now watching this in mid-late 2023 only to realize that the AMX 13FL11 was just recently added to the game. Maybe the french superheavies could be added at some point as well?
As far as I remember, one or more of them was used in I think the original Leviathan event back in the days, or some special mode around that period of time... I specifically remember driving it on kharkov map
I remember playing this game when tanks couldn't fall or even lift off the ground. Fast tanks like the t-50 would just go up and down hills like rollercoasters. And then when you hit a cliff you would just instantly stop and maybe get stuck.
I was there 900 years ago. If I remember correctly there were only 2 nations in the very beginning, Germany and USSR. Also only 2 or 3 maps, I believe. Also after the closed Beta they did a wipe and gave you credits for all the tanks you had researched but you kept crews. I know that because I still have an IS-7 crew despite newer having researched it after the wipe.
When I started, there was only the Americans Germans and Russians and I think there was maybe 8 tier 10’s in the game, and I joined when they had the ads for orcs vs tanks
@@xthetenth Atleast back then you could shoot the ears and other weakspots of tanks. WoT ruined the game in a way when they made Gold muni available for silver and removed the weakspots from tanks.
some additional things: - about branching lines, Pz. III/IV used to lead to the Hummel. this was when the hummel was still tier 5, leading up to the GW Typ E at tier 8 - there's a particularily interesting message in one of the decoration descriptions of this year's christmas event...i think it was something related to ice cream...it suggested 0.8.0 as being the "Vanilla" version of the game
Su 122 54 got nerfed into a ground a few patches after it was removed. The pre-removed stats look rather nice actually Lights have a 10% xp bonus from firing at HTs
that's because they were planning for it to be a tier VIII premium after it got removed, the original SU-122-54 had armor like a T-54 and had an improved IS-4 gun
@@flipeled yeah quite a lot of t9+ russian tanks have the same 122mm gun The M-62 iirc, all with 258 base pen, 340 heat and 440 alpha The only one thats different for whatever reason is 430u that has 252 base pen
I was really pissed and still am pissed when they changed this line of Russian TD, I wanted su 122 54 so bad just for the cool factor and also su100m1 while having a poor gun had very good mobility compared to SU152, yeah better gun is nice but I miss being able to zoom around, even with equipment it’s quite sluggish
@@aynersolderingworks7009 yeah. i miss the old 263, probably the most underrated t10 for the time, 3k dpm with 550 alpha, fast, heavily armored, gun was good too
Surprised that you missed to mention that arties could see any enemy's firing traces without being spotted, the higher the caliber the thicker the trace was. Then they disabled it and left only the arty traces to be visible for countering. Late to the party, not sure if anybody else mentioned it. :P
The French super-heavy FCM F1 was playable alongside some other French super-heavy (Called "Stein") in the 2017 "Leviathan" gamemode. On the subject of testing things using game-modes, I can assume it tested multiple turrets / multiple guns, since the two turrets would reload, turn, and fire independently. (absolute gem of a game mode btw).
@@michaelvonbiskhoff7771 yea but the thing is that french superheavys has the oppurtinity to shoot multiple shells at a time which can break the game and also french super heavys have decent armor of its time so if wg put them in tier 6/5/4 then they can actually have good armor and also i am pretty sure if wg realese them then they r gonna have high hp like tog
29:39 The ARL 44 used to have the second turret of the FCM F1, as stock turret. I never understood why the stock ARL 44 had that big, bird cage turret, but I think it was a remnant of that tank.
Light tanks used to stop at tier 5* before tier 8 Edit, i kept watching and you mentioned it. Great job. I started playing in 0.7.4 The big changes i can remember was 8.0, (physics) Wargaming devs used to participate in clan wars, they streamed the games and lost a bunch. Tank companies were ruined. Artillery had Hp and vision, and apcr... Wte100, kv1s, old hellcat, kv3/4 T-22 used to be absolutely broken... Most maps have undergone enormous balancing patches Artilley have a limit per match, though they had to limit them per match down to 5, then down to 3 per. We used to see upwards of 13 per side (you mentioned this as i am typing this- we would artillery rush and shotgun eachother) Gold rounds and consumables used to be gold only purchasables... "On-track" events began with the is-7 sometime after 8.5 - 9.0 or something The batchat 155 58 used to have a 5 round clip. Rip Tank soccer was fun, rocket league wasn't a big game back then...
One of the biggest changes everyone seems to have forgotten about was the shot dispersion change made in 8.6 that basically made 25% of shots go right down the middle no matter how big the aiming circle was. This is when the "Hand Of Stalin" memes came about with people one shotting enemies across the map with an on the move snapshot from a KV-2. The global accuracy nerf a couple years later undid a lot of this, but those couple years were completely ridiculous. 8.6 also made some other big changes. Before 8.6, artillery was even more powerful, with much better reload times, aim times, accuracy and even more forgiving shell arcs. While artillery can be very annoying today, I think a lot of the extreme hate for it stems from these early times, as it genuinely was stupidly overpowered. Also before 8.6, the KV-2 had 152mm HEAT shells with something 300 pen and 750 alpha - those numbers might be slightly off and I can't find a source to verify. Point is, it was completely stupid and broken. As long as you actually hit, it was a a guaranteed penetration on everything you could possibly face, and a one shot on tier 4s and 5s. The HEAT shells on the various Tier 3/4/5 derp guns also had much higher penetration back then. The Jumbo Sherman with the 105 howitzer using gold rounds was actually super troll.
The map "Mines" used to be called "Pagorki". One of the structures on the northeast part of the map was a doghouse. If ran over, a dog yelping could be heard. WG removed that sound file after complaints. Players from the beta (and I think the alpha?) got a special tank called the 'M4A2E4'. This tank is most likely the rarest tank you could actually get without being a CC. I still have mine. Arties used to have a bug where, after a small distance in the air, the round would instantly teleport and fall on the target, skipping most of the arc trajectory. The T23 Chems mentioned is now in the game as the T23E3, a tier 7 premium MT. The tech tree T23 top gun was a 105mm gun. The T34, as Chems mentioned, used to be a tier 9 US HT. When it was made a tier 8 premium, it had the stats it had as a tier 9 for a short while (and was, therefore, rather OP) Matchmaking was even more janky than Chems described. There used to be two templates: tier 1 and 2, then tier 3 and 4-5-6-7-8-9-10. This meant you could be fighting Mauses in your Marder 38T. There was a point where the German TD tech tree line ended with the Ferdinand. The T-54 and Type 59 broke the game for a long while. Matches were usually decided before the match started: the team with more of those two tanks won.
Also i remember back when wot was starting, wg made complete progress resets to every player, it happened at least twice as I remember. Would be pretty nice if someone can confirm when it was, maybe 2013 and less? ( this meant you had to completely start over again, and so did everyone)
@@neonlight1214 if this happend it was way before 2013. I started playing in April 2011 and I never had my account reset. I was on EU though, maybe it did happen on some other server.
@@neonlight1214 that happened on console. I was a closed then an open beta tester for wot on the Xbox 360 in 2013. Only 2 lines, German and USA and they reset our progress twice in a short period, twice I JUST made it to the e100 then 😁
@@neonlight1214 They did. I have been playing since the beta test on the EU server. When they released the finished game, so to speak, they reset all your progress. The reset made me pissed and I stopped playing for a while.
Intriguing lore; chemical really went down a rabbit hole with this one. By the way the Karl mode was just an April Fool's joke even though they extended it for an extra week because it got good feedback apparently. I guess they listened back then.
You could farm milions of credits in Karl Mode, 250k every game. Then first ever missions appeard and those were also OP, for 6 kills (unlimited battles) you would get 500k, I still remember it because I was grinding hard for first CW meta aka BC25t, 50b, IS7, T62A and T57h. I even have 1st campagain medal.
I feel really old when I recognize most of the stuff that has either been removed or reworked. PZ. I C was my most favourite. Thank you for showing this. It has been many years since I stopped playing but seeing all of this brought pleasant memories of I was just a kid sitting in front of his first pc.
not only that you could reliably do Counter battery fire my most fun thing to do in my Obj 261 (most accurate arty ingame at the time and i belive even now)
35:47 the rockets on the side of the turret were literally called "TT-250 Tank Torpedo" and would technically be the biggest caliber in the game with a diameter of 420mm If it was added it would be a tier 8 premium obviously
@@distinctjackal9016 and the maximum depression for the tank rockets are +5 degrees, so the meme tactic is to back yourself into a building so you can actually shoot straight with em
God, I still remember when the old 8.0 update was first coming out, having actual vehicle physics instead of just being stopped at ledges seemed so mythical at the time. Crazy how different the game is now
Oh yes i miss the arty from the old days. When you played in a city map and could use your arty like a TD and erase half the hitpoints of a type 5 with 1 shot.
They removed so many of the really good maps. Windstorm for example was awesome. As was Northwest. And Port was fun as well. Windstorm and Port especially since they weren't just a symmetry fest like most other maps are. Also older versions of sacred valley were fun, before they kept updating it ruining it more and more until they eventually removed it. And I'll never forgive them for removing south coast without even trying to "fix" it. Like sure, it had some balancing issues. But I don't even remember it going through really noteworthy significantly different iterations. It was just suddenly gone.
I miss windstorm & northwest so much. City & flanks were equally fun. My first ever game in the O-I exp back when it was a monster was on windstorm and I wiped floor with a high cal + 5 kills. Good times.
I stop playing world tanks a long time ago. When you read out all my favourite maps had been removed that was depressing and also the way I got my Maus is different then how you get it know was cool. Also the fact that I have that rare medium tank which you mention with the m6 looking thing. That was cool too. Amazing video!
36:01 Busted out laughing of how bizzare it is. Then you said most advanced lithuanian tank. And now I can barelly type from my laughter because I am from Lithuania. great content
This was an amazing trip down memory lane!!! Thank you so much!! I started back in September 2012 and it is to this day my most played game ever... I vividly remember so many moments, and I will cherish them forever Until they drove everything to hell and nerfed the ELCs penetration What a shame
Tbh i dont even mind the nerf of elcs penetration...i loved the mobility of the tank and its not what it used to be...before u could circle around even medium or light tanks nowadays freakin heavies outruns ya
@@SmallPotato2313 it was going with 65 km/h and it could reach that speed so much faster than today because of stronger engine, today it reaches 60 kmh max and since it has a shittier engine it can't turn or accelerate fast
Here a few things that used to be in Wolrd of Tanks that are still in World of Tanks Blitz or different in World of Tanks Blitz: -You can still talk to the enemies in wotb -You can still get climb to alot of interesting spots though you need someone to push you up for most of them -Tanks still cant completly flip in wotb -su 122-54 still is a tier 9 td in wotb and it still leads up to the obj 263 as a tier 10 + they both have good dpm -fv 4202 is still a British tier 10 med in wotb -there are alot of gamemodes that regularely return in wotb that arent in wot though there are some that dont return too -You can still get launched at alot of spots that havent been patched in ages -You can choose between paying gold ammo with gold or credits -T 18 and T 82 are still tds, prolly bc there are no artys in blitz -the normal K 91 in wotb has its turret in the middle and is a tier 9 premium -The "Renegade" on wotb is called T 54E2 as the tier 8 premium -alot of Branchover lines still exist in wotb like the tiger (p) -> ferdinand -> jagdtiger -T 44-85 exists as a tier 8 russian premium in wotb -there is no vk 100.01 (b) in wotb it is just called vk 100.01 (p) -the chieftain mk 6 is the normal tier 10 chieftain in wotb -the making of wotb wasnt started by wargaming but by "'DAVA Consulting"
@@black.baron_angel I have played esports on WoT PC for more than 4 years now, the game isn't just fun anymore, the meta is toxic as hell and it's diving down in never ending depth. Blitz is basically 2012 PC but with actual improvements. Also the competitive scene has prizepools multiplied tenfolds, despite the playerbase being much smaller and the competitive scene being worse overall.
I havent played WoT for at least 3 years now, but I started very early (almost on release in 2011). Here's a couple of fun facts: 1) The old Physics didn't have any walls that prevented from falling, but was kind of like the first iteration of the Physics except you're stuck to the ground. By limiting your climbing possibilities from +60 to -60 degrees every time you were about to exceed them the game would stop you, so if you were trying to fall off an edge you would be stopped once you reached -60 degrees inclination and left hanging up until you reversed from it. This also meant that if somehow you managed to overcome by little this "never-exceed" limit you couldn't reverse from it and was basically stuck. 2) The old MM for tier 4+ tanks was -2 +4, meaning that the KV with the 107mm gun could face Tier 9 tanks (I still remember as a young teen how mad I was for the split KV :c). 3) Some tanks (usually soviet) had ridiculous guns balanced by either reload and/or accuracy, for example: T-28 soviet tier 4 tank had an 85mm gun and wasn't even too difficult to aim and the reload was ok, the old KV-1S had the IS's 122mm gun with worse stats, but was super op nonetheless (oneshotting hopeless tier 4s was exhilarating), the M4 sherman had the possibility to mount a 120mm (? maybe 105mm I can't remember exactly) with ridiculous HE pen and damage but you could mount only on the stock turret and others I'm definitely forgetting 4) one of the first tanks removed because it "wasn't historical" (lmao) was the T-50-2 because, and I'm almost quoting SerB here "it wasn't supposed to be a motorcicle shooting at 70kph IRL"... RIP. There are a ton more, but I will still fondly remember WoT as the game that I grew up with, either raging bacuse of RNG or the limited times I managed to carry or made friends in it. Thanks WoT.
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21:25 - The big ensk! The devs actually was testing a new game mode, with waves of bots attacking players. Bots were obviously "Supertesters" (which I was back then in 2014), and the players were the devs themselves. We had a strict scenario to follow. Our goal was to capture all three bases they had to defend. Or to kill all of them. They could respawn for several times. What a nostalgia you brought up....
they later added this pve mode in as an event a few years back with actual bots this time. you would pick either the t34 and su100 or sherman and wolverine (iirc). i forgot what the mode/event is called but i swear it existed because i have like 3 2d styles for russian tanks and american tanks which i use it on my tier 8 premiums
@@vuxluongw fucking hated that mode they threw a bunch of unicums against noob and wondered why nobody got the items which then killed the game as its the first time event items were added to the shop
that feeling when most of your wot knowledge comes from 2011-2013 and almost every time he says "you probably know that", you dont but when he talks about something old and obscure, you treat it as something normal edit1: OH MY GOD i played project tank so much... i used BT-7 the most because its gun was literally broken it did over 200dmg instead of 20 (it was probably some programmers mistake) one time i took out three KV-1s (tier V) with my BT-7 (tier III) XD edit2: one thing that wasn't mentioned in the video (or i somehow missed it): you could go from M4A3E2 Jumbo Sherman directly to M6 that's what i did, and now i have M6, T29 and T32 but i never ever owned T1 Heavy
I did the same thing with m4e3a2 but you could go straight to t29 and skip t1heavy and m6 tho u would be forced to play with stock 76mm gun on t29 cuz 90mm was only on m6 I still havent unlocked t1heavy and m6 and i already own t32
@@SmallPotato2313 yeah you can go straight to T29 now, i think they changed it from M6 because it was too easy to get into 2 lines at once now you have to suffer a bit with a stock gun on T29
I know this will probably never be seen but just wanted to contribute some information regarding Project Tank. The game was seemingly renamed at some point to Ground War - Tanks. Its most recent update was in 2023.
Fun fact, two of these multi turreted french super heavys playable during an Halloween event against the "Leviathan". Their names in this mode were Franken and Stein. Also #BringBackDragonsridge it was one of my favorites
Really great nostalgia trip, I loved Chaffee racing. There was a glitch/feature where you could change the officer to a unskilled one and hang corners tighter, getting to the end much faster. Only a few clans knew and abused tf out of it like myself.
Something to add on just seeing those old French super heavies, the first Halloween event with the Leviathan hell tank driving around, you were inside these French heavies with both turrets usable, was a fun mode for its first Halloween event
I can actually vouch for the AMX arty bug, there was also a bug with that arty specifically that allowed you to fire the gun behind you if an enemy was behind you while also being "in" your reticle
Mine was elc amx (its name was later changed to amx elc bis) i loved how i can just circle around HT and fight 8 tier tanks and be a dangerous opponent if left alone
I've been playing WOT on and off for about 7 years it's pretty cool to have these memories brought back. It's sad seeing the current state of the game tho.
oh man, i remember all the fun i had with the t18 tier 2 TD, 95% of tier 2 tanks couldnt pen its face, apart from other T18's that had the fast reload low alpha gun, the HE shell was so fun, only the british medium tanks couldnt be oneshotted, everything else was a 1blast 1 kill deal, good times
Listing some stuff that goes unmentioned here for whatever reason. Agrimotor tractor is a nod to the most memetic vehicle of "Men of War", a strategy game that WoT is based on. Light tanks used to have +5/-1 MM, allowing ELC AMX to fight Maus. Then it was changed to +4, then to +3 and then light tanks got streamlined into what we do have now. Waffentrager E110 isnt the first boss battle that WG has added into the game. Back in 2012 there was a Wieber Tiger to go pair with the film of the same name, where players on T-34-85 had to face a unique Tiger P, driven by the dev with 14 thousands HP and teleporation abilities. Speaking of 34-85, it also had 100-mm gun LB-1 with great stats, which actually differs from the czechoslovakian variant. Pz. 4 Smalturm also was a tech tree variant.
Honestly that's one of the best WoT videos I've ever seen. Been playing it ever since 2011/12 and even though I could have sworn I knew every nook and cranny about the lore of it, I learned some new things. Pretty sure you could even do a whole second video about it if you talk more about the community surrounding it like the SirFoch incident when the Chrysler K released, or that korean player that had over 10,000 games on the pre-rework ELC AMX. Have a wonderful day.
As an old, very old, WoT player, this video brings me lots of memories from the gold days. Played this game since it's second anniversary or so, 2013, and I with my friends have gone thru so much in it. Literally every update, every removed map, every new thing you mentioned, I experienced it first handed [except the said first two years and since 2018 when I stoped playing it]. Thank you for making this video up, and sad that every update this game just get worse and worse. Those summer nights of 2014 will never came back.
Man this brings back so many memories. I remember playing World of Tanks on minimum settings during middle/high school and it was my go to game aside from Team Fortress 2. The Races, the 8 bit Karl, the IS-8 Ball, ive been there. Over seven thousand battles, and I havent touched the game since 2016. Its a shame what greed did to the game, it still has so much potential, but Wargaming doesnt care about their community and continues to focus on lining their pockets. I used to really enjoy World of Warships too but, that as well has been falling apart. As for World of Tanks, I miss playing my Tog II, and loved the fury when it was added after the movie release. I dont think itll ever take off again, not unless some massive overhauls are done. "You were good son, real good, maybe even the best"-Soldier.
Watching this video bright so many memories of my first times playing this game back in 2012.. Or 2013.. i forget. But damn. I remember all of these patches and nerfs etc. I miss so many of those removed maps. Amazing video sir. Very lovely.
I stopped playing around the tech tree redesign and was super confused when I tried the game again. Gave up when it became abundantly clear Wargaming didn't care about making a game, they wanted slot machines on tracks, and focused more on lootboxes and microtransactions than making a balanced game. All of the tricks to get people addicted using gambling mechanics are there, and once you see them it's hard to go back. RNG when you fire and where your round will go, RNG on how much damage you receive or if the round bounces, overpowered gold ammo (that sure you can buy with silver, but it will bankrupt you if you don't pay in), lootboxes, etc, etc, $$$$
Agree with everything except gold ammo making you bankrupt. You can play with full gold and food and not lose credits if you're running a credit booster. Premium tanks also earn you a shit ton.
@@cooooolnoone I've never paid for credit boosters yet I have 300+. Also, I started running full gold and consumables recently too, because why TF not lol. I have over 50m silver and even with full gold and consumables with no booster, I still make a profit, and I'm slightly above avg, so why not? Though i still load 50/50.
29:45 if I remember correctly a tank that looked like the FCMF1 was used in a Halloween game mode vs AI, where you had two separate functional turrets.
This brings back memories. I used to kit out my low tier tanks with equipment specifically for countering sealclubbers (which I identified with XVM), sought them in battle and made it my sole purpose to take them out of the game, even at the detriment of the outcome of the match (such as T18 drivers, with hundreds or thousands of matches in them).
6:30 omg, all the memories from this old tech tree, missing the old wot, remember games with even 10 + arties in both team or with lovely t-50-2 meeting Maus and Is-7
Ah, this game was so much fun back in the day. And I still maintain that arty was balanced back then. It could be counter fired based on tracers and suffered from rng. Then again I was able to sling ap through window frames on ruinberg and Himmelsdorf. And I will always fondly remember platooning up with two random guys in t8 and 9 arties and completing the "deal 40% of your team's damage, win, survive" mission for the T55a - first go - on Himmelsdorf. Then they nerfed the class into oblivion, made mediums the be all and end all....
Now this was a fun video to watch. The nostalgia hit so hard while watching all the old replays and game modes. I also feel proud to be Polish right now lol.
12:54 i used to lowkey be a big fan of quickybaby's tank company vids. actually enjoyable the way he was chilling with his fans/clanmates while legit play the game because he wanted to and not because of the money. oh how the mighty have fallen.
I used to have a great time because a WGNA guy, MajorRampage, would hop on for a few hours every friday. 500 gold for everyone on the opposite team if they matched against him, 1000 for beating him. Easy way to fill out the queue.
0:29 belarussians* 3:25 113 too 4:33 also valentine II 11:16 they also tested multiple turret mechanics that isnt in the game during halloween 2017 16:35 T-60 can choose one gun with 50 shell-clip too 17:30 there was also a cool place on old pilsen on southern base between trains 19:18 also winterberg (ruinberg) and some fiery variant of prokhorovka i forgot the name of, there were many more guns and destroyed tanks etc. 25:49 same with T95E6 33:06 only on NA tho (at the moment lol, black market soon) 33:40 they are purchasable on chinese server i loved the video
Also, there is a painting with victor kinsyl holding a torch, and his first employees around it in the Ensk map. also in ghost town there is a lot of Kvas (bread juice idk) that was popular back in the days. Judging by the popularity of these carts, barrels, WG employees probably loved these as a kid.
World of Tanks Blitz also has it's own interesting things, like the KPZ-70 German/American Main Battle Tank prototype as a tier 9 heavy tank. We also had MISSILES first in a short event for testing and then we actually had them in the American tech tree tanks T92E1 and Sheridan, until it was later limited again, but this time to a special collectable Sheridan, which you can only use in fun gamemodes. The IS-8 is still called the "IS-8" instead of the "T-10" Do we not only have a double barreled tier 7 premium, we also have a 3 barreled tier 7 premium. While WoT PC had it's 100 years of tanks event with the armored cars, we had the British Mark 1 Heavy as a playable tank for a short while. It had it's own MM, being only able to face other Mark 1s. We have the European tech tree, which is currently a mixture of Swedish, Polish, Italian, Czech and Finnish tanks. Yes, the tier 1 for this tech tree is the Finnish Vickers Mk. F, which is pretty much a T-26 but with a different turret and it has a Bofors 37mm gun as it's stock gun. We had an event where you played as rubber ducks shooting water bullets at the enemy rubber ducks. We have alot of fictional premium tanks, AKA fantasy tanks. These tanks are either completely made up by Wargaming or taken from other communities, a good example would be the two Warhammer 40k tanks we have.
Such a cool video, I am not really active WoT player and come back once in a while to check what is new. My account is like 12 years old and its cool seeing some of the old stuff I experienced back in the day.
what big ensk shows is they could make each map have different sizes based on the tier being played in the round. So T1-4 could get small ensk, all others get big ensk.
i really love the part where you said that back in the day they wanted to add tier 11-13. They probably thought that it didn't make any sense to have a tier 11 heavy have more armor than a tier 13 heavy. Unless it is a premium and at tier 8
I knew something like 95% of these facts, but it was still interesting to watch, and to return to the old WoT atmosphere. Especially since I don't play that game anymore.
Damn I was wondering why there were no World Of Tanks iceberg videos, but then I remembered: this community is shit. Thank you chems for bringing us the good stuff as always. Unsubscribed.
There's an old screenshot of the E-10 using some kind of low-suspension, the IRL project apparently was supposed of having a changeable suspension, and maybe it was the precursor to the siege mode many (MANY) years ago
The Sabaton tank Primo Victoria has a picture of the band inside its turret with their band equipment! Also, I’ve played the T18 back then, and IT WAS HILARIOUS!!! I could make a whole list of all the old amazing stuff I got to take a part in, but that'd take too long for me and my time. Also, this video is really great, chems! It really makes me think how this game has devolved. From a simpler, more fun, yet still varied game to a pay2win, complicated, gold spamming, chat banning, corridor map having, cancerous gimmick tank-filled mess.
5:41 my original account that I played on from 2011-2013 has something similar; you used to be able to go from the KV-2 to the S-51 and the S-51 was in parallel to the SU-14-1 at tier 7. So on my old account I have the S-51 unlocked with all modules with no other Soviet SPGs unlocked. It looks pretty weird seeing it now just stranded in the middle of the tech tree with nothing unlocked before or after it.
Dude same , when me and my new-to-game friend play , he always asks me how tf i got the S-51 without purchasing even the tier 5 arty and i am like , u dont know and dont want to know
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guys only like 14k more subs before i beat claus kellerman!!!!!!!!!!!
wicked
As a wise man once said; "Stop being shit and your stats will go up."
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sad that he has more subs, but his most viewed video has the same amount as this video, which chems posted 6 days ago lol
Only 220 subs till 69420 😏
This video is an absolute masterpiece in bringing everything together what WoT once was
I'm shocked it has only 70k views
*cough40k
He forgot a crucial fact tho when they tested p1000 Ratte and the servers suffered from it
The nostalgia brooo!!! really well made video chems and thanks for the small appearance lol -MrE
WoT blitz go brr
Me looking at WoTs history: "It´s evolving, just backwards"
From 2017 yes
After invisible walls it's gotten exponentially worse
Devolving :(
arty being nerfed to shit almost justifies the tank powercreep and pay to win encouraging gold rounds
Man, you probably never played with hexagonal barrels and the models that could not push each other or lift the tracks off the ground. The “from 2017 onwards” is probably true though.
I played the game in 2010-2014. This video is a blast from the past. I really didn't know so many things have changed.
Same here. I feel old now!😂
i played from late 2011, now didn't play for quite a while and i really forgot how many things changed. This video was a nice memory refresher. It used to be a good game
Same now i play war thunder (i hate my life)
play like 5 battles again for funny, just try. its cool
I remember playing this shit back in the day, when Type 59s were terror incarnate and T-50-2 were screaming around glued to the ground by the OG physics, eating artillery alive in every match.
Goddamn Type 59s were such complete bullshit back then. Better armor than most heavier, better mobility than most mediums, punchy gun that seemed to go through everything.
I remember a game where there was a full platoon of them from some unicum clan, OTTER maybe, and I just said fuck it, alt-tabbed, and went and took a shit instead of playing that game. It actually wound up being close and we might have won if I hadn't AFK'd.
@@BigIronEnjoyer 200mm front :D it is a joke now. Powercreep is real :D well i stoped playing years ago but this tank was so much fun. not good fpr the game but fun :D if you had it
I remember playing like a noob, my artillery on swamps and being killed in the first minute... Quite deserve I would say today
T-50-2's were the EBR's of the past
Circle strafing Heavies...take forever...but their turrets could never keep up.
Man that hurt to watch
Good old WoT how much I miss you
HEY ITS THIS GUY
FUNNI TF2 TANK GUY
where videos
Funni tank man when u gonna return? :(
Its been too long, since i dont see that aregintian like painted abrams
yooo its the og!!
Old wot footage, music, maps, makes me sad that we no longer have that fun game anymore. But at least I got to experience it. Good memories.
fun fact: World of tanks blitz, the mobile version of WOT PC pretty much, has most of the same physics that originated in the old WOT game
We also still have a tech tree that's more similar to old versions of PC WoT, like the Obj. 263 and FV4202 at tier X
You can still buy gold rounds with gold too lol
No arty..... meme tanks, all chat, gravity mode, uprising, maps on the effing MOON
Can you still play blitz with the mouse on PC or not?
@@AAA-vs5si yes
@@AAA-vs5si It's still on Steam, so yeah
In a month, I reach 10 years playing WoT and holy shit, all that old footage + the old garage background music you used. You gave me that much of nostalgia and you made me realize that the game I loved is long gone and it won't return... All those maps like Port etc etc, that depressing but cool in the same time garage. That mm, those tanks with weakspots. And not only that you made me remind the whole era, me coming from home after school.
Thank you for reminding me what WOT used to be.
Man.... I loved those old maps.. I was a mountain goat😂 after 10years I cant belive how much the game have changed.. When they remowed the WT Auf E100 I deleted the game for a month... now looking back at the game I wish World of Tanks wouldn't have ebrs, M-V-Y s and others.. this game was awesome back then, but now its a joke... I started playing when i was 5🙂
Your comment just made me realise that in a few weeks it's been 9 years since I've STOPPED playing WoT. Damn the time flies by. But every time i see, what the game has become, I'm not sad about not playing it anymore
@@Lordy243 same I quit 2-3 years before I grad high school. I’m 21 now. Kinda glad I got into making money rather than wasting my life on a game that would have turned to trash
Yeah, i used to play it a lot, but then I quit because of work and school, not long ago i redownloaded the game and it's a whole different one, definitely not the WoT that i used to enjoy
It just reminds you how little they have actually advanced the game.
Loved this video. I also remember that one halloween event where you played either one of two French superheavies. There was even a working two-turret mechanic that it seemed WG was trying out, giving hope to those that wanted M3 Lee to eventually become playable.
the nostalgia 😂i just got
i remember this as well
That seemed incredibly hacked together so it makes me think it wasn't very functional and needed more time to cook. Also, there was a shortage (at the time, at least) of potential high-tier multiturrets since most of the historical ones reside at no higher than Tier 5, maybe 6.
As a Lithuanian, I 100% agree that's how our most advanced tank looks like :D
Lithuanian tech tree when
@@Nightmare_52 i wonder how a tier 10 tractor would look like
i am also lithuanian and i can also agree that we got a tractor and put a gun on it and that is our best ever tank
@@slapiaskebabas Faktas seni :D
@@Nightmare_52 When WG will run out of ideas and their game will be dying lmao, then they will add this piece of shit as a tier 8 premium...
I love how this channel goes back and forth between ultra offensive memes to actual documentaries
I’m versatile
@@chems Is that code for polyamorous?
@@chems But you don't know that Belarus isn't in Russia?
@@irongeneral7861i thought it's just a region (oblast) of Russia
@@irongeneral7861it’s a russian puppet state so
15:53 the amx-40 was the last tank to get an hd model so thats was the easter egg to come with it
Played since 2012 so i experienced pretty much everything in this video. I actually loved playing historical battles with crappy low tier tanks and hunting those big scary beasts, it was so rewarding. Unfortunately majority of players wanted to play high tiers so queue times for this mode were unbearable.
It was super fun when you had one really unfortunate guy in a King Tiger facing an entire team of Shermans. You had E8s, Jumbos, and 105 M4s
When the historical battles were a thing, I was in contact with WG for some more historical stuff organized by the community (or by me) They were pretty hyped after looking at my scetches, and the talks were pretty advanced (like rewards for the best players or combining the replays into a documentary about this specific battle), but then the game mode got scrapped and I've never heard of them :D
@@DaKea90 like the people who designed a ship for wows and were in contact with higher ups about it being added then they added a completely different ship and said it’s the ship that was supposed to be your ship but we changed it with out telling you lol.
My experience with 'historical battles' was they were so poorly thought out that one side dominated...so most people didn't want to play the mode at all, and those that did mostly wanted to play the OP side...leading to long wait times, lowering the numbers even further. The low numbers were blamed for the inevitable cancellation.
@@Ocrilat it was probably better than historical battles on wows as the Germans never won due to their play style and you couldn’t use the Japanese except for Kaga only because the Germans didn’t have a CV while the Allies in the mode had a choice of 3.
The deepest lore: wargaming bought up the company that made the bigworld engine to stop having to ask them for licensing permission each update they released.
Wargaming (which is a belarussion company coming from minsk) bought up a bank in cyprus to circumvent trade embargos on payment processesing between it and europe and america.
World of tanks is one of the highest earning games rivalling WoW, LoL and the likes and has been consistently in the top 10 of highes earnings in games
There is a picture of serb with MLP figurines and a picture of stalin behind him
a few tanks used to have holes in their hitbox, meaning they couldnt be damaged in some places
You left out the Girls und Panzer cup that SerB is holding in that photo.
I remember m53/55 having such weird hitbox on the semi-turret that shells could literally fly through the tank and hit another person
In OG World of Tanks, Maus had 2 zero armor zones on the front just above the tracks.
Tier 1 tanks could damage it, the lowest pen HE rounds always did full pen damage. I'm 100% convince this was intentional, and it took YEARS to get fixed.
@@SmallPotato2313 The hitbox for the turret was detached from the hull. You could hit and damage it by firing over it.
Dude, to have this all documented, edited and commented; it's insane work for which I want to show my respects.
This must have cost you hours; but it was fun to watch and I learnt a thing or two.
thanks a lot!
Fun fact, in Wargaming's crusade against climbing and exploring "unfavorable" locations, they also changed the water physics to destroy all of your momentum and speed, locking players out of many islands and obscure hiding spots that they used to be able to visit.
yes because it sucked to plya against and once someone was there there is no counter play
yep, the old spoting system and everything made it imposible to spot them @@thecoolestofthe834s2
An average NA player: “Wow, they didn’t have extra penetration shells for silver? That’s crazy!”
Me, a Russian, who played from 2011 till 2017, thinking every minute: “Wait, they removed what? What, that tank/mode/friendly fire/map/mechanic is gone? That’s crazy!”
A very enjoyable and nostalgic video for me, and there is actually much more about the game that can still be added! How about the fact that the game was so low-poly, that even all the barrels of tank cannons were hexagonal? Or that when they started to add “HD” models they were added incrementally, patch by patch, and the easiest way to tell the new models apart were, well, actual circles in the models?
How about some old events - one of the first was a secret game mode that promoted the “White Tiger” movie, where if you would queue in a T-34-85 you would have a chance to get an match on Komarin, (since removed) where all the player tanks would be only T-34-85 and a white Tiger with like 10k health, and a damage of 750 would spawn to be defeated for a special achievement?
Or old maps? The ones that were overhauled, like El-Haluuf? There was an insane steep hill to be climbed in the upper left corner, a hell for all the heavies. Or the fact that the dead tanks used to be immovable, and there were actual tactics that evolved strategic deaths in choke points, like sacrificing a light tank to block the thin road that overlooks the lake and the village on the, whatsit, Lakeshire? Lakeville? Oh man, the memories…
Yes comrade
I am an NA player who started back in 2012 and I also was going oh right they did remove that, or shit I remember starting my grind for the Chaffee back when it was the end of the LT line. Also my dad played the shit out of his t18 back in the day.
I was surprised to see the list of removed maps in thos video. Those were all crappy maps most people hated but the matchmaking constantly used them.
is someone here knew that tank angel icon appear if you kill a tank? I play this game since 2013 now currently on hiatus
The entire east flank on Serene Coast used to just not exist. You can see it at 34:05.
35:02 I am now watching this in mid-late 2023 only to realize that the AMX 13FL11 was just recently added to the game. Maybe the french superheavies could be added at some point as well?
As far as I remember, one or more of them was used in I think the original Leviathan event back in the days, or some special mode around that period of time... I specifically remember driving it on kharkov map
@@stythayea, in halloween 2017
Franki and Stein
I remember playing this game when tanks couldn't fall or even lift off the ground. Fast tanks like the t-50 would just go up and down hills like rollercoasters. And then when you hit a cliff you would just instantly stop and maybe get stuck.
I remember when they removed the T-50-2 because it would constantly flip over after they added physics
@@waterdotzable then they added it again but not in the tech tree..
Lol it was so anticlimactic drive at a cliff at 60 kmph and then just stop
4:29 the Valentine 2 also has the same super pref MM as the B2.
Churchill 3 or whatever, tier 5 premium also has that
@@uglyboi7521 No, Churchill III can see Tier VI
@@Chem.Baroness It can, but it does get on top surprisingly often. It also seems to earn more XP than any other tank would do for similar effort.
@@jamjestkowal ikr, sometimes I loose in 4 seconds and still end up at the top
Doesn't the Light VIC have it?
me, a War Thunder player, watching WoT iceberg videos: hmm yes, knowledge
also funny how he's confused about what some of the tanks even are in the video, but said tanks are playable in war thunder
I was there 900 years ago. If I remember correctly there were only 2 nations in the very beginning, Germany and USSR. Also only 2 or 3 maps, I believe. Also after the closed Beta they did a wipe and gave you credits for all the tanks you had researched but you kept crews. I know that because I still have an IS-7 crew despite newer having researched it after the wipe.
When I started, there was only the Americans Germans and Russians and I think there was maybe 8 tier 10’s in the game, and I joined when they had the ads for orcs vs tanks
@@theboshow9697 hah noob when i started T30 was American tier 10 heavy tank
I remember launch day for the Americans, when the T29's 105mm was way way better.
@@xthetenth Atleast back then you could shoot the ears and other weakspots of tanks. WoT ruined the game in a way when they made Gold muni available for silver and removed the weakspots from tanks.
Are you sure about the wipe? From what I remember it removed everything. As I had to start from zero (had tier 9 at the end of beta).
19:13 - omg, your mention of the removed maps sent me into a full nostalgia mode.
i think some of the removed maps are in WoTb
I still have nightmares of the T18 one shorting me in my British medium 2 to this day
some additional things:
- about branching lines, Pz. III/IV used to lead to the Hummel. this was when the hummel was still tier 5, leading up to the GW Typ E at tier 8
- there's a particularily interesting message in one of the decoration descriptions of this year's christmas event...i think it was something related to ice cream...it suggested 0.8.0 as being the "Vanilla" version of the game
4:35 valentine II is another one the Pz. B2 isn't actually the only one
Su 122 54 got nerfed into a ground a few patches after it was removed. The pre-removed stats look rather nice actually
Lights have a 10% xp bonus from firing at HTs
that's because they were planning for it to be a tier VIII premium after it got removed, the original SU-122-54 had armor like a T-54 and had an improved IS-4 gun
Did not know that, gonna start targeting heavies.
@@flipeled yeah quite a lot of t9+ russian tanks have the same 122mm gun
The M-62 iirc, all with 258 base pen, 340 heat and 440 alpha
The only one thats different for whatever reason is 430u that has 252 base pen
I was really pissed and still am pissed when they changed this line of Russian TD, I wanted su 122 54 so bad just for the cool factor and also su100m1 while having a poor gun had very good mobility compared to SU152, yeah better gun is nice but I miss being able to zoom around, even with equipment it’s quite sluggish
@@aynersolderingworks7009 yeah. i miss the old 263, probably the most underrated t10 for the time, 3k dpm with 550 alpha, fast, heavily armored, gun was good too
Surprised that you missed to mention that arties could see any enemy's firing traces without being spotted, the higher the caliber the thicker the trace was. Then they disabled it and left only the arty traces to be visible for countering. Late to the party, not sure if anybody else mentioned it. :P
The French super-heavy FCM F1 was playable alongside some other French super-heavy (Called "Stein") in the 2017 "Leviathan" gamemode.
On the subject of testing things using game-modes, I can assume it tested multiple turrets / multiple guns, since the two turrets would reload, turn, and fire independently.
(absolute gem of a game mode btw).
The other one was the Char 2c. And yes, it was the best Halloween mode ever. I am still waiting for multi-turreted tanks
i think they would break the game lol. but still they dont have any armor. big shit in battlefeild
@@aminkhaled1534 average Tog experience, tbf
@@michaelvonbiskhoff7771 yea but the thing is that french superheavys has the oppurtinity to shoot multiple shells at a time which can break the game and also french super heavys have decent armor of its time so if wg put them in tier 6/5/4 then they can actually have good armor and also i am pretty sure if wg realese them then they r gonna have high hp like tog
@@michaelvonbiskhoff7771 the tog has some great DPM and massive hp tho
29:39 The ARL 44 used to have the second turret of the FCM F1, as stock turret. I never understood why the stock ARL 44 had that big, bird cage turret, but I think it was a remnant of that tank.
It also still has premium ammo dmg meme. Back in the old days some tanks had premium ammo with higher DMG, ARL-44 and bathtub still have those.
The old ARL 44 turret is in wot blitz i think
ahhh...the old "dog house" turret
Light tanks used to stop at tier 5* before tier 8
Edit, i kept watching and you mentioned it. Great job.
I started playing in 0.7.4
The big changes i can remember was 8.0, (physics)
Wargaming devs used to participate in clan wars, they streamed the games and lost a bunch.
Tank companies were ruined.
Artillery had Hp and vision, and apcr...
Wte100, kv1s, old hellcat, kv3/4
T-22 used to be absolutely broken...
Most maps have undergone enormous balancing patches
Artilley have a limit per match, though they had to limit them per match down to 5, then down to 3 per. We used to see upwards of 13 per side (you mentioned this as i am typing this- we would artillery rush and shotgun eachother)
Gold rounds and consumables used to be gold only purchasables...
"On-track" events began with the is-7 sometime after 8.5 - 9.0 or something
The batchat 155 58 used to have a 5 round clip. Rip
Tank soccer was fun, rocket league wasn't a big game back then...
One of the biggest changes everyone seems to have forgotten about was the shot dispersion change made in 8.6 that basically made 25% of shots go right down the middle no matter how big the aiming circle was. This is when the "Hand Of Stalin" memes came about with people one shotting enemies across the map with an on the move snapshot from a KV-2. The global accuracy nerf a couple years later undid a lot of this, but those couple years were completely ridiculous.
8.6 also made some other big changes. Before 8.6, artillery was even more powerful, with much better reload times, aim times, accuracy and even more forgiving shell arcs. While artillery can be very annoying today, I think a lot of the extreme hate for it stems from these early times, as it genuinely was stupidly overpowered.
Also before 8.6, the KV-2 had 152mm HEAT shells with something 300 pen and 750 alpha - those numbers might be slightly off and I can't find a source to verify. Point is, it was completely stupid and broken. As long as you actually hit, it was a a guaranteed penetration on everything you could possibly face, and a one shot on tier 4s and 5s. The HEAT shells on the various Tier 3/4/5 derp guns also had much higher penetration back then. The Jumbo Sherman with the 105 howitzer using gold rounds was actually super troll.
21:10 music just brought back nostalgia. Thank you chems
The map "Mines" used to be called "Pagorki". One of the structures on the northeast part of the map was a doghouse. If ran over, a dog yelping could be heard. WG removed that sound file after complaints.
Players from the beta (and I think the alpha?) got a special tank called the 'M4A2E4'. This tank is most likely the rarest tank you could actually get without being a CC. I still have mine.
Arties used to have a bug where, after a small distance in the air, the round would instantly teleport and fall on the target, skipping most of the arc trajectory.
The T23 Chems mentioned is now in the game as the T23E3, a tier 7 premium MT. The tech tree T23 top gun was a 105mm gun.
The T34, as Chems mentioned, used to be a tier 9 US HT. When it was made a tier 8 premium, it had the stats it had as a tier 9 for a short while (and was, therefore, rather OP)
Matchmaking was even more janky than Chems described. There used to be two templates: tier 1 and 2, then tier 3 and 4-5-6-7-8-9-10. This meant you could be fighting Mauses in your Marder 38T.
There was a point where the German TD tech tree line ended with the Ferdinand.
The T-54 and Type 59 broke the game for a long while. Matches were usually decided before the match started: the team with more of those two tanks won.
Also i remember back when wot was starting, wg made complete progress resets to every player, it happened at least twice as I remember. Would be pretty nice if someone can confirm when it was, maybe 2013 and less?
( this meant you had to completely start over again, and so did everyone)
@@neonlight1214 if this happend it was way before 2013. I started playing in April 2011 and I never had my account reset. I was on EU though, maybe it did happen on some other server.
@@neonlight1214 that happened on console. I was a closed then an open beta tester for wot on the Xbox 360 in 2013. Only 2 lines, German and USA and they reset our progress twice in a short period, twice I JUST made it to the e100 then 😁
@@neonlight1214 They did. I have been playing since the beta test on the EU server. When they released the finished game, so to speak, they reset all your progress. The reset made me pissed and I stopped playing for a while.
@@Heckinwhatonearth nope it was PC too
Intriguing lore; chemical really went down a rabbit hole with this one.
By the way the Karl mode was just an April Fool's joke even though they extended it for an extra week because it got good feedback apparently. I guess they listened back then.
I honestly wish they'd bring it back along with the is8 ball game mode. I had a lot of fun in those modes.
The Karl gamemode was fucking epic
mk1 event was best
You could farm milions of credits in Karl Mode, 250k every game. Then first ever missions appeard and those were also OP, for 6 kills (unlimited battles) you would get 500k, I still remember it because I was grinding hard for first CW meta aka BC25t, 50b, IS7, T62A and T57h. I even have 1st campagain medal.
@@Ak1M1223 I kind of remember that. I still have the Karl medal lmao. It was a good joke; I wish WG still had a sense of humor.
I feel really old when I recognize most of the stuff that has either been removed or reworked. PZ. I C was my most favourite.
Thank you for showing this. It has been many years since I stopped playing but seeing all of this brought pleasant memories of I was just a kid sitting in front of his first pc.
One time, you could blind fire TD's with arties, because you were able to see their shot-tracing
not only that you could reliably do Counter battery fire my most fun thing to do in my Obj 261 (most accurate arty ingame at the time and i belive even now)
35:47
the rockets on the side of the turret were literally called "TT-250 Tank Torpedo" and would technically be the biggest caliber in the game with a diameter of 420mm
If it was added it would be a tier 8 premium obviously
You can play it in war thunder lol
@@distinctjackal9016 and the maximum depression for the tank rockets are +5 degrees, so the meme tactic is to back yourself into a building so you can actually shoot straight with em
@@skyscall or fall from a hill
@@distinctjackal9016 I've played it. The only thing those rockets are useful for is getting you ammo racked
@@thatww2nerd81 just like mines on ships
God, I still remember when the old 8.0 update was first coming out, having actual vehicle physics instead of just being stopped at ledges seemed so mythical at the time. Crazy how different the game is now
Oh yes i miss the arty from the old days. When you played in a city map and could use your arty like a TD and erase half the hitpoints of a type 5 with 1 shot.
you aren't talking about the old days if the type 5 is mentioned.
Same
@@masonsunderland8126 he probably mentions it as a scale of measure
@@vietcongnva1197 I still remember the day when I blocked a 2250 damage shell from the sky. Nice times
@@DimitarKorchevI remember back in the day my tier 8 Motherland could bounce Deathstar ap shells.😂 crazy times
They removed so many of the really good maps. Windstorm for example was awesome. As was Northwest. And Port was fun as well. Windstorm and Port especially since they weren't just a symmetry fest like most other maps are. Also older versions of sacred valley were fun, before they kept updating it ruining it more and more until they eventually removed it.
And I'll never forgive them for removing south coast without even trying to "fix" it. Like sure, it had some balancing issues. But I don't even remember it going through really noteworthy significantly different iterations. It was just suddenly gone.
I miss windstorm & northwest so much. City & flanks were equally fun. My first ever game in the O-I exp back when it was a monster was on windstorm and I wiped floor with a high cal + 5 kills. Good times.
Those maps where fun as fuck, but I gotta say that they were unbalanced like northwest
I stop playing world tanks a long time ago. When you read out all my favourite maps had been removed that was depressing and also the way I got my Maus is different then how you get it know was cool. Also the fact that I have that rare medium tank which you mention with the m6 looking thing. That was cool too. Amazing video!
36:01 Busted out laughing of how bizzare it is. Then you said most advanced lithuanian tank. And now I can barelly type from my laughter because I am from Lithuania. great content
same :DDD
@@pukalo just admiring good content, so go and cry about it
Well its true that is our most advanced tank
Ngl i wanna see a tier 10 tractor with a massive gun
@@slapiaskebabas tier 8 premium sounds better 😂
This was an amazing trip down memory lane!!!
Thank you so much!!
I started back in September 2012 and it is to this day my most played game ever...
I vividly remember so many moments, and I will cherish them forever
Until they drove everything to hell and nerfed the ELCs penetration
What a shame
I used to love wot, and then around 2018 I just lost all my love for the game. I don't even remember what happened
Tbh i dont even mind the nerf of elcs penetration...i loved the mobility of the tank and its not what it used to be...before u could circle around even medium or light tanks nowadays freakin heavies outruns ya
@@SmallPotato2313 the ELC is my fav and most played tank, that's why I mentioned it xD
But yeah, a lot of things got worse
@@SmallPotato2313 it was going with 65 km/h and it could reach that speed so much faster than today because of stronger engine, today it reaches 60 kmh max and since it has a shittier engine it can't turn or accelerate fast
@@justsomedude7874 game just went to shit after 1.0 update
As a war Thunder player, i can confirm that WOT is a weird game with weird players
the fact that I can watch this and still get nostalgia is amazing.
Here a few things that used to be in Wolrd of Tanks that are still in World of Tanks Blitz or different in World of Tanks Blitz:
-You can still talk to the enemies in wotb
-You can still get climb to alot of interesting spots though you need someone to push you up for most of them
-Tanks still cant completly flip in wotb
-su 122-54 still is a tier 9 td in wotb and it still leads up to the obj 263 as a tier 10 + they both have good dpm
-fv 4202 is still a British tier 10 med in wotb
-there are alot of gamemodes that regularely return in wotb that arent in wot though there are some that dont return too
-You can still get launched at alot of spots that havent been patched in ages
-You can choose between paying gold ammo with gold or credits
-T 18 and T 82 are still tds, prolly bc there are no artys in blitz
-the normal K 91 in wotb has its turret in the middle and is a tier 9 premium
-The "Renegade" on wotb is called T 54E2 as the tier 8 premium
-alot of Branchover lines still exist in wotb like the tiger (p) -> ferdinand -> jagdtiger
-T 44-85 exists as a tier 8 russian premium in wotb
-there is no vk 100.01 (b) in wotb it is just called vk 100.01 (p)
-the chieftain mk 6 is the normal tier 10 chieftain in wotb
-the making of wotb wasnt started by wargaming but by "'DAVA Consulting"
Eww Blitz
T-44-85 is a tier 7
You didn't mention that blitz is 7v7 without arty, it's just a better game than pc
@@alexisgelis excuse me…?
@@black.baron_angel I have played esports on WoT PC for more than 4 years now, the game isn't just fun anymore, the meta is toxic as hell and it's diving down in never ending depth. Blitz is basically 2012 PC but with actual improvements. Also the competitive scene has prizepools multiplied tenfolds, despite the playerbase being much smaller and the competitive scene being worse overall.
I havent played WoT for at least 3 years now, but I started very early (almost on release in 2011). Here's a couple of fun facts:
1) The old Physics didn't have any walls that prevented from falling, but was kind of like the first iteration of the Physics except you're stuck to the ground. By limiting your climbing possibilities from +60 to -60 degrees every time you were about to exceed them the game would stop you, so if you were trying to fall off an edge you would be stopped once you reached -60 degrees inclination and left hanging up until you reversed from it. This also meant that if somehow you managed to overcome by little this "never-exceed" limit you couldn't reverse from it and was basically stuck.
2) The old MM for tier 4+ tanks was -2 +4, meaning that the KV with the 107mm gun could face Tier 9 tanks (I still remember as a young teen how mad I was for the split KV :c).
3) Some tanks (usually soviet) had ridiculous guns balanced by either reload and/or accuracy, for example: T-28 soviet tier 4 tank had an 85mm gun and wasn't even too difficult to aim and the reload was ok, the old KV-1S had the IS's 122mm gun with worse stats, but was super op nonetheless (oneshotting hopeless tier 4s was
exhilarating), the M4 sherman had the possibility to mount a 120mm (? maybe 105mm I can't remember exactly) with ridiculous HE pen and damage but you could mount only on the stock turret and others I'm definitely forgetting
4) one of the first tanks removed because it "wasn't historical" (lmao) was the T-50-2 because, and I'm almost quoting SerB here "it wasn't supposed to be a motorcicle shooting at 70kph IRL"... RIP.
There are a ton more, but I will still fondly remember WoT as the game that I grew up with, either raging bacuse of RNG or the limited times I managed to carry or made friends in it. Thanks WoT.
21:25 - The big ensk! The devs actually was testing a new game mode, with waves of bots attacking players. Bots were obviously "Supertesters" (which I was back then in 2014), and the players were the devs themselves. We had a strict scenario to follow. Our goal was to capture all three bases they had to defend. Or to kill all of them. They could respawn for several times.
What a nostalgia you brought up....
they later added this pve mode in as an event a few years back with actual bots this time. you would pick either the t34 and su100 or sherman and wolverine (iirc). i forgot what the mode/event is called but i swear it existed because i have like 3 2d styles for russian tanks and american tanks which i use it on my tier 8 premiums
that does sound like war thunder ngl
@@vuxluongw fucking hated that mode they threw a bunch of unicums against noob and wondered why nobody got the items which then killed the game as its the first time event items were added to the shop
that feeling when most of your wot knowledge comes from 2011-2013 and almost every time he says "you probably know that", you dont
but when he talks about something old and obscure, you treat it as something normal
edit1: OH MY GOD i played project tank so much... i used BT-7 the most because its gun was literally broken
it did over 200dmg instead of 20 (it was probably some programmers mistake)
one time i took out three KV-1s (tier V) with my BT-7 (tier III) XD
edit2: one thing that wasn't mentioned in the video (or i somehow missed it): you could go from M4A3E2 Jumbo Sherman directly to M6
that's what i did, and now i have M6, T29 and T32 but i never ever owned T1 Heavy
I did the same thing with m4e3a2 but you could go straight to t29 and skip t1heavy and m6 tho u would be forced to play with stock 76mm gun on t29 cuz 90mm was only on m6
I still havent unlocked t1heavy and m6 and i already own t32
@@SmallPotato2313 yeah you can go straight to T29 now, i think they changed it from M6 because it was too easy to get into 2 lines at once
now you have to suffer a bit with a stock gun on T29
I know this will probably never be seen but just wanted to contribute some information regarding Project Tank. The game was seemingly renamed at some point to Ground War - Tanks. Its most recent update was in 2023.
Fun fact, two of these multi turreted french super heavys playable during an Halloween event against the "Leviathan". Their names in this mode were Franken and Stein.
Also #BringBackDragonsridge it was one of my favorites
Really great nostalgia trip, I loved Chaffee racing. There was a glitch/feature where you could change the officer to a unskilled one and hang corners tighter, getting to the end much faster. Only a few clans knew and abused tf out of it like myself.
AMX 13 FL 11 is now in the game :skull:
I remember playing with the T18 as the american tier 2 TD before it was removed. Good times...simpler times...better times.
i remember i got my best ever game in that tank, i won 1v10
@@arthuraabakken1125 A friend and I 2v10 in hetzers with the derp and won. I loved that little tank.
I remember those days. The first time I looked up the T18's weakspots.
but also, every match had at least 3 T18s on every side
Or the T-82 when It was a TD...
Something to add on just seeing those old French super heavies, the first Halloween event with the Leviathan hell tank driving around, you were inside these French heavies with both turrets usable, was a fun mode for its first Halloween event
I actually miss that mode.. hope they will add it again in the next Halloween events .
That was an actually fun halloween mode. And the dual turrets were great fun, wish the M3 Lee and others had gotten them.
O man, just remembered that. It was fun
Franken and Stein were beasts
In that mode i got my first ever tier X tank the is-7 and i was the happiest person
This was pretty cool, awesome vid
I can actually vouch for the AMX arty bug, there was also a bug with that arty specifically that allowed you to fire the gun behind you if an enemy was behind you while also being "in" your reticle
Wow, this brought back a bunch of nostalgic moments. I remember my favorite tank at those times was the tier 3 Cruiser 2 with the 1̶0̶5̶m̶m̶ 94mm gun.
Mine was elc amx (its name was later changed to amx elc bis) i loved how i can just circle around HT and fight 8 tier tanks and be a dangerous opponent if left alone
It was 94 mm not 105
My apologies, you're absolutely right. I didn't even remember it correctly 😅. Thank you.
With the howitzer! 😊
3.7 inç howitzer
I've been playing WOT on and off for about 7 years it's pretty cool to have these memories brought back. It's sad seeing the current state of the game tho.
Bro, this was so damn interesting! I really really would like to have a second part!
oh man, i remember all the fun i had with the t18 tier 2 TD, 95% of tier 2 tanks couldnt pen its face, apart from other T18's that had the fast reload low alpha gun, the HE shell was so fun, only the british medium tanks couldnt be oneshotted, everything else was a 1blast 1 kill deal, good times
Saaaame, I really miss it :(
yeah man, 3+ kills every battle
Yeaaaah,
At-1(tier 2 russian TD) with the 76mm gun could pen the front of it easy.
@@mightypharaoh7586 Yeah, But When i Played at at T18 I never saw anyone truely kill me, i killed them like other tanks
Listing some stuff that goes unmentioned here for whatever reason.
Agrimotor tractor is a nod to the most memetic vehicle of "Men of War", a strategy game that WoT is based on.
Light tanks used to have +5/-1 MM, allowing ELC AMX to fight Maus. Then it was changed to +4, then to +3 and then light tanks got streamlined into what we do have now.
Waffentrager E110 isnt the first boss battle that WG has added into the game. Back in 2012 there was a Wieber Tiger to go pair with the film of the same name, where players on T-34-85 had to face a unique Tiger P, driven by the dev with 14 thousands HP and teleporation abilities.
Speaking of 34-85, it also had 100-mm gun LB-1 with great stats, which actually differs from the czechoslovakian variant. Pz. 4 Smalturm also was a tech tree variant.
Honestly that's one of the best WoT videos I've ever seen. Been playing it ever since 2011/12 and even though I could have sworn I knew every nook and cranny about the lore of it, I learned some new things. Pretty sure you could even do a whole second video about it if you talk more about the community surrounding it like the SirFoch incident when the Chrysler K released, or that korean player that had over 10,000 games on the pre-rework ELC AMX. Have a wonderful day.
18:52 You cant hit people with such a nostalgia without a warning a tear came from my eye when i remembered the old world of tanks.
I played all most of those deleted maps before.... nostalgia
@@deliciousnoodles5505 same man.. same..
Wow this video is an insane trip down memory lane! Haven't touched this game in years but I used to play this for years as well
As an old, very old, WoT player, this video brings me lots of memories from the gold days. Played this game since it's second anniversary or so, 2013, and I with my friends have gone thru so much in it. Literally every update, every removed map, every new thing you mentioned, I experienced it first handed [except the said first two years and since 2018 when I stoped playing it].
Thank you for making this video up, and sad that every update this game just get worse and worse. Those summer nights of 2014 will never came back.
I feel the same as you, I started in 2012 when there was first tv publicity in europe, and stop playing in 2018.
Man this brings back so many memories. I remember playing World of Tanks on minimum settings during middle/high school and it was my go to game aside from Team Fortress 2. The Races, the 8 bit Karl, the IS-8 Ball, ive been there. Over seven thousand battles, and I havent touched the game since 2016. Its a shame what greed did to the game, it still has so much potential, but Wargaming doesnt care about their community and continues to focus on lining their pockets. I used to really enjoy World of Warships too but, that as well has been falling apart. As for World of Tanks, I miss playing my Tog II, and loved the fury when it was added after the movie release. I dont think itll ever take off again, not unless some massive overhauls are done. "You were good son, real good, maybe even the best"-Soldier.
Watching this video bright so many memories of my first times playing this game back in 2012.. Or 2013.. i forget. But damn. I remember all of these patches and nerfs etc. I miss so many of those removed maps. Amazing video sir. Very lovely.
I stopped playing around the tech tree redesign and was super confused when I tried the game again. Gave up when it became abundantly clear Wargaming didn't care about making a game, they wanted slot machines on tracks, and focused more on lootboxes and microtransactions than making a balanced game. All of the tricks to get people addicted using gambling mechanics are there, and once you see them it's hard to go back.
RNG when you fire and where your round will go, RNG on how much damage you receive or if the round bounces, overpowered gold ammo (that sure you can buy with silver, but it will bankrupt you if you don't pay in), lootboxes, etc, etc, $$$$
Sums up why I think this software (not "game") is a cancer
Agree with everything except gold ammo making you bankrupt. You can play with full gold and food and not lose credits if you're running a credit booster. Premium tanks also earn you a shit ton.
@@nfdhje38743m and how do you get premium tanks or credit boosters? right, you pay.
@@cooooolnoone I've never paid for credit boosters yet I have 300+.
Also, I started running full gold and consumables recently too, because why TF not lol. I have over 50m silver and even with full gold and consumables with no booster, I still make a profit, and I'm slightly above avg, so why not? Though i still load 50/50.
29:45 if I remember correctly a tank that looked like the FCMF1 was used in a Halloween game mode vs AI, where you had two separate functional turrets.
Ah yeah, that was the best halloween mode they ever made, it was so good
I remember it. I fkin remember it! Damn this game is my childhood, when my dad downloaded it in 2011 I was just 8!
This brings back memories. I used to kit out my low tier tanks with equipment specifically for countering sealclubbers (which I identified with XVM), sought them in battle and made it my sole purpose to take them out of the game, even at the detriment of the outcome of the match (such as T18 drivers, with hundreds or thousands of matches in them).
This video is like a nostalgia vaccine. Gives me all the memories of the game I once loved so much, and protects me from ever playing it again!
6:30 omg, all the memories from this old tech tree, missing the old wot, remember games with even 10 + arties in both team or with lovely t-50-2 meeting Maus and Is-7
WOT: lets not add the french superheavies for balancing reasons.
WarThunder: hold my fucking beer!
Ah, this game was so much fun back in the day. And I still maintain that arty was balanced back then. It could be counter fired based on tracers and suffered from rng. Then again I was able to sling ap through window frames on ruinberg and Himmelsdorf. And I will always fondly remember platooning up with two random guys in t8 and 9 arties and completing the "deal 40% of your team's damage, win, survive" mission for the T55a - first go - on Himmelsdorf. Then they nerfed the class into oblivion, made mediums the be all and end all....
Could have limited arty to 3 per team...
Now this was a fun video to watch. The nostalgia hit so hard while watching all the old replays and game modes. I also feel proud to be Polish right now lol.
Impressive, very nice.
Lets see the World of Warships Iceberg.
I just miss playing the old WoT! This video gave me so much nostalgia. Thanks
12:54 i used to lowkey be a big fan of quickybaby's tank company vids. actually enjoyable the way he was chilling with his fans/clanmates while legit play the game because he wanted to and not because of the money.
oh how the mighty have fallen.
I used to have a great time because a WGNA guy, MajorRampage, would hop on for a few hours every friday. 500 gold for everyone on the opposite team if they matched against him, 1000 for beating him. Easy way to fill out the queue.
It's crazy how the amx 13 fl11 shown in this video is in the game now. It should've stayed in the game files.
I've put about 35 battles into it and it's very good (but the AMX ELC bis (w/75mm) it was compared to is excellent.
0:29 belarussians*
3:25 113 too
4:33 also valentine II
11:16 they also tested multiple turret mechanics that isnt in the game during halloween 2017
16:35 T-60 can choose one gun with 50 shell-clip too
17:30 there was also a cool place on old pilsen on southern base between trains
19:18 also winterberg (ruinberg) and some fiery variant of prokhorovka i forgot the name of, there were many more guns and destroyed tanks etc.
25:49 same with T95E6
33:06 only on NA tho (at the moment lol, black market soon)
33:40 they are purchasable on chinese server
i loved the video
fiery salient if i remember correctly
@@TheMegakiller2000 probably, i play on polish client so for me it was "łuk ognia" xd
the prokhorovka variant was fire arch or sth like that
Light vic also has a 13 mm heavy machine gun with 50 rounds clip.
Also, there is a painting with victor kinsyl holding a torch, and his first employees around it in the Ensk map. also in ghost town there is a lot of Kvas (bread juice idk) that was popular back in the days. Judging by the popularity of these carts, barrels, WG employees probably loved these as a kid.
I like how chems is mostly shitposting, but at the same time the longer videos are really well-made. Appreciate the work.
Nice video, "fun fact" is I remember 90% od these things.. so long I play this game.
World of Tanks Blitz also has it's own interesting things, like the KPZ-70 German/American Main Battle Tank prototype as a tier 9 heavy tank.
We also had MISSILES first in a short event for testing and then we actually had them in the American tech tree tanks T92E1 and Sheridan, until it was later limited again, but this time to a special collectable Sheridan, which you can only use in fun gamemodes.
The IS-8 is still called the "IS-8" instead of the "T-10"
Do we not only have a double barreled tier 7 premium, we also have a 3 barreled tier 7 premium.
While WoT PC had it's 100 years of tanks event with the armored cars, we had the British Mark 1 Heavy as a playable tank for a short while. It had it's own MM, being only able to face other Mark 1s.
We have the European tech tree, which is currently a mixture of Swedish, Polish, Italian, Czech and Finnish tanks. Yes, the tier 1 for this tech tree is the Finnish Vickers Mk. F, which is pretty much a T-26 but with a different turret and it has a Bofors 37mm gun as it's stock gun.
We had an event where you played as rubber ducks shooting water bullets at the enemy rubber ducks.
We have alot of fictional premium tanks, AKA fantasy tanks. These tanks are either completely made up by Wargaming or taken from other communities, a good example would be the two Warhammer 40k tanks we have.
great video, an absolute masterpiece of showing people what WoT once was and that it was better in the past good old days.......
Such a cool video, I am not really active WoT player and come back once in a while to check what is new. My account is like 12 years old and its cool seeing some of the old stuff I experienced back in the day.
A brilliantly made film . Some things even surprised me
what big ensk shows is they could make each map have different sizes based on the tier being played in the round. So T1-4 could get small ensk, all others get big ensk.
i really love the part where you said that back in the day they wanted to add tier 11-13. They probably thought that it didn't make any sense to have a tier 11 heavy have more armor than a tier 13 heavy. Unless it is a premium and at tier 8
I knew something like 95% of these facts, but it was still interesting to watch, and to return to the old WoT atmosphere. Especially since I don't play that game anymore.
Damn I was wondering why there were no World Of Tanks iceberg videos, but then I remembered: this community is shit.
Thank you chems for bringing us the good stuff as always. Unsubscribed.
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21:07 MY GOD THIS MUSIC, THE MEMORIES NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
WHAT HAVE YOU DONE?!!
I play this game since 2013. Yet I was utterly shocked by a lot of things, never heard or saw them before
Good video, so many memories, you have a new subscriber from a currently dull and cold South Yorkshire UK
There's an old screenshot of the E-10 using some kind of low-suspension, the IRL project apparently was supposed of having a changeable suspension, and maybe it was the precursor to the siege mode many (MANY) years ago
5:57 - actually light tanks used to have +4 mm - tanks like luchs or m5 stuart could be on tier 8 battles without playing in platoon
I don't remember but you could check which tanks you destroyed with your tanks. When I checked luchs I found some T8
The Sabaton tank Primo Victoria has a picture of the band inside its turret with their band equipment! Also, I’ve played the T18 back then, and IT WAS HILARIOUS!!! I could make a whole list of all the old amazing stuff I got to take a part in, but that'd take too long for me and my time. Also, this video is really great, chems! It really makes me think how this game has devolved. From a simpler, more fun, yet still varied game to a pay2win, complicated, gold spamming, chat banning, corridor map having, cancerous gimmick tank-filled mess.
16:58 When you were assigned to a tank crew, but wanted to be in the air force.
5:41 my original account that I played on from 2011-2013 has something similar; you used to be able to go from the KV-2 to the S-51 and the S-51 was in parallel to the SU-14-1 at tier 7.
So on my old account I have the S-51 unlocked with all modules with no other Soviet SPGs unlocked. It looks pretty weird seeing it now just stranded in the middle of the tech tree with nothing unlocked before or after it.
Dude same , when me and my new-to-game friend play , he always asks me how tf i got the S-51 without purchasing even the tier 5 arty and i am like , u dont know and dont want to know
Me too. Tho this was in game for quite a while, i got it in like 2017 or 18, and it was still researchable from kv 2
They finally changed that? Damn. I still need to finish the S-51. But the game's gone to hell so I won't be doing that