Fuji X-T30 vs Fuji X100F AND Fuji X100V. Which is right for you?!
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- Опубликовано: 29 дек 2019
- Well I forgot about the f2 23mm lens for $450! Obviously that would be the best lens to mimic the X100F. I can't believe I missed it. My point during that segment isn't to mimic the X100F exactly so much as to point out the cost of the X-T3 with a small fixed prime. I can tell you one thing for sure; If the 1.2 lens isn't going to sway me then the 2.0 lens certainly won't. :)
Also, at about 3:31 in the video there is a picture that's credited to the X100f. It's actually the X-T30. The 55mm lens is a dead giveaway. :)
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I know it's a long video but bare with me!
After spending a week with the Fuji X-T30 I have a lot to say about this great little camera. I've been circling around this tiny marvel for a while and thinking that I might just move away from my beloved X100F and into the interchangeable goodness that is the Fuji X-T30. After a week with the camera i have made a decision. Watch to find out how I got there!
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Although this video was uploaded 1 yr ago, it still help me a lot to make my mind.
I absolutely loved this video. Perfect analytical style especially in the summary. SPOT ON, MAN! I have already ordered the Fuji XT4 but wanted a second camera. This kit will be my travel (or just fun) kit. And you have convinced me to get the Fuji 100V. I look forward to your future videos.
Another outstanding conversational (rather than tutorial) video, Booray. I could hear myself talking as you analyzed the cameras and their features. I appreciate that you brought out the digital crop feature of the X100F as I have set it up to use with a push of a function button that sets it, lets me pick 50 or 70 mm with the ring, and then has it revert to raw afterwards so one does not have to use the menu at all. I used it often on a river cruise mainly in Tennessee in December and the upsized images are excellent.
Thank you! I actually do that on purpose. There are many great channels that do in-depth statistical reviews. I prefer to talk the way i would talk to you in person. Less charts, more opinion. :)
Thanks Booray for this timely video, as I have been considering these two Fuji cameras for my next purchase. During the last three years, I've been using the Olympus EM10 MkII + 17mm f1.8 for all my personal and family needs with great results. But recently sold these so I can upgrade to newer tech, I already have a Nikon pro DSLR so that's covered. I have been lusting after the X100F for most of this year, but concerned about having a fixed lens; the X-T30 has the benefit of interchangeable lenses and current heavy price discounting here in the UK makes it look attractive. Don't forget you can always get a used lens to help keep the overall price down.
Thanks for all your videos this year, best wishes for the New Year.
Thanks for watching and commenting! 😁
Damn! Thank you so much! This was the perfect video for me today! I was debating whether to get a black X100F or a charcoal XT30! Very difficult decision tbh and you helped me a lot! I went for the X100F! Thank you so much! Looking forward to watching the rest of your videos for this camera!
Thanks for watching. Glad I could help!
I bought the xt30 and paired it with the 23mm f2 as im doing event photography, and because of its light weight, i can just ran around the whole venue and go where the action is. And now im planning to buy the viltrox 85mm f1.8 coz i watched so many good reviews about that lens.
Really good video on comparing the two, just what I was after!
Loved the video, I am in the same dilemma xt30 vs x100v, I was looking for someone to do a similar video and I am so glad, I came across your video. Thanks again
Thanks for watching!
You skipped over the f2 primes.. yes, you mentioned the pancakes, but the 16/2.8, 23/2, 35/2, and 50/2 make a formidable kit for travel, documentary or even event work on the small form factor T30 or E3 if you prefer the rangefinder form factor.
I’m carrying an X-E3 and X100F as a pair for events.. right now with the 50/2 but hoping to add the 16/2.8 soon. Then I’ll have wide, portrait coverage with the E AND the leaf shutter flash sync nd filter goodness of the X100F too.
Amazing video sir... great valid points. Wants versus needs.
Very fine discussion. I had the "F" for two weeks and sold it because of its miserable grip. Now if the upcoming "V" Fuji has a better grip AND a flip-down screen, then I might give it a go. By the way, I now shoot the Fuji X-H1 along with my two full-frame Nikons. Your comments are so well presented.
There is allso the Fujinon XF 23mm 1:2.0 you forgot.
The infamous Fujicrons. They are quite good and compact. I have the 35mm. I paid $400 for it.
Yep, I was confused at to why he didn’t mention the 23 f/2 for the XT30
Yes, why not the 23mm f/2.... strange.
Baruch Cohen infamous? What’s infamous about then? In my world they are very beloved.
A really useful video. Thank you Perry!🙏🏻🌹
Backpacking over an 11,000 foot pass? x100F. Cold weather and gloves? x100F. Missing the Olympus 35RC? x100F. The x100F is not only good. It is good enough.
Mark Nicholson agreed it’s such a flexible and reliable camera you have to work a bit harder for your shots but when you do it never lets me down
At the moment I am swaying towards the X-T30ii and x27 f2.8. It's nice to know you can fit another small lens if you need a change.
I like this guy. Just found his channel and watched a few videos. I have the Fuji 100F. I am a Nikon amateur but I have to say the 100F is an excellent camera for the right applications. I think I am sticking with this channel as I agree with him and find his delivery easy to understand and entertaining. Thanks
I like this guy too. :)
Why didn’t you consider 23mm f2 to match with the X30?
That's exactly what I was thinking, that's the standard lens used on all the X100s, it is great
@@thatspiritualhumane I hated the 23mm f2. It's only useful for street photography... people in low light is a total bummer.
Great vid, love your style. First time viewer and new subscriber...youtube and podcast. Thank you!
The double score!! Thanks!
This was such a super logical informative process you took us through! Awesome!!!!--Che’Francois Photography
Thanks! 😁
You've really thought this through. I appreciate your going to the trouble of covering all the angles on one camera versus the other. The leaf shutter is something I really want, the silent shutter too. So the 100F sounds better for me - but lucky for me, the 100V is now on the market, and I see you've made a "is it worth the upgrade" video, and I'm about to watch that. With what I've already heard about the 100V, I predict you're going to say YES, it's worth the upgrade.
By the way, I upvoted this video and I just became a subscriber. Why? Because you're really good at presentation and you covered everything I wanted to know. That's rare.
I agree with that. He is really good at presentation. Subscribed too.
Thank you for the information.
I really wish to see x-pro3 screen on the x100v. Love it
Im doing the same debate a few generations older. X-E2 (which I own already) with 23mm f2 /27mm f2.8 or X100T.
I have switched to a used Sony RXR ii amazing though it is I am planning to consider the replacement X100
Very informative and helpful discussion. Thank you. One thing I'd like to have your input on is how to zone focus with an x100 F or V. Did you create such a video or are you planning on doing one. Thanks for some feedback.
I have not. I don't do a lot of zone focusing. 😁
Hello booray, thanks for the great videos and podcasts, i shoot canon and now have been really enjoying fujifilm in the last few months since buying the X100F. I’m just curious, what is holding you back from jumping to Fuji full time from canon for your pro work as well? I’m thinking of making the switch, but would like to hear your two cents on why you still work the two lines.
Thank you
I just happen to have a video about that:
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It's ergonomics mostly but also a little fear of poor low-light performance.
Neither. Get the x100T. You can get it around $500 on eBay. The jump from the T to the F is not worth the extra few hundred dollars imo.
dzeng i had the T loved it to death literally I drown it in a flash flood I was gutted as it’s an amazing camera the insurance replaced my loss with the F love this beautiful camera hopefully and so far not to death
The closest you can get in size to the X100F with the XT30 is by having the 27mmf2.8 on it. Even with this, it's still almost 1 cm larger than the X100F. And the focal length is narrower (27 vs 23). And the blur will be limited because it's f2.8 vs f2.
The 2nd closest option is to use the X23mmf2 with the XT30, but this lens will sacrifice size, as this combo is quite bulky as compared to the "pocketable" X100F.
Had a chance to use an X100T and X-T30 + 23 f2 at the same time before I sold my X100T (planning to get the V), IQ and speed wise it's the latter. But the compactness and "fun", it would be the X100 camera. I want to sell the 23 f2 and get the V. What do you think? Or should i just stay with the XT30 and 23 f2?
Thank you, Sir. I’ve been taking pictures with my Canon T4i since 2012 and I’ve been trying to make an upgrade and get rid of my old gear and I was really hesitant about which new camera I should buy. After watching your review you cleared all doubts I had and now I know the 100f is the one I need. The last trip I made to Mexico City I carried on my bag my Canon and two lenses and it was something heavy for me. I really wanted to go low weight and also another factor it was that It was so boring and complicated for me starting changing lenses so this was a deal breaker for me to choose the x100f over the others you mentioned. If I wanted to get the xT30 ant xT3 then I’d be wasting money and ending up in the same situation that is to carry unnecessary equipment. Also another thing is that I’ve always wanted to shoot on a 35mm prime lense and this would be my opportunity to accomplish it. By the way you have a great voice I really enjoyed and appreciated your review! Thank you again!
Thanks for watching!
Booray Perry My pleasure! I’m really excited to get this camera. I also subscribed to your channel and I’m currently watching some of your other videos. Greetings from Mexico, Mr. Perry!
@@ReconFacks Greetings from Florida!
I carry everyday a Fuji X100 T and a Nikon D5600 with an 18-300 mm lens on it, everyday, oh and a small Nikon SB 400 flash. Perfect combination !!! I am not a Pro, you can probably tell by the Nikon lens I use. Thanks for your great videos !!!
Thanks for watching! 🙂📷
Really like your videos. I have a Fuji X100 and X100F which I love. For a compact changeable.lens zoom camera I picked up a used Olympus OM-D EM-1 which uses the relatively small 4/3 zoom lenses and my old Canon FD lenses with adapter. Phenomenal camera even with its smaller sensor.. My bulky full frame Canon DSLR kit hasn't been used since but have it ready in the even I need to use a really long lenses.
I am itching to try an Olympus.
This is why I originally chose the X-T10. The X100 series has a fixed lens, and the X-T10 has that tilt screen. I think there is a place for many style cameras. The X-T30 is at a nice price. Even better is the XE3 which is $499, which is why I upgraded to it. That's CHEAP! It's great as a daily carry too. I think the X-T30 and X-E3 are the gems everyone misses for the flagship models. BUT, even easier to carry is the Ricoh GR. That is my Lazy day carry. The 23mm is not my favorite lens. I love the 35mm F/2 WR lens for daily carry or the 16mm. As for ND filter in X100F, you can place a Circulating ND filter, magnetic ND filters, or screw ons.to do the same.
I sold my XPro2. Still own a XH1 & GFX50R. I own the XF27, XF90, XF16-55, XF100-400, GF50. Do I buy the next X100 or is the XE3 better?
When u talked about zoom, you should compare to a compact zoom that is the xf18-55 kit lens with IS...
it will interesting to see how the 100V comes equipped. I have had the 100S and currently have the 100F for a walk around camera and love it. Lets hope Fuji does the right thing and puts a tilt screen on the newer 100V....would that be the perfect street / walk around camera? Hell yes!!! Price point will be a large factor also but the Fuji faithful will somehow manage to make it work. I know i will!!
They say that there has been a prototype "in the wild" that has the new Xpro3 tilt screen.
Hi Booray, thanks for this interressting video. Just one thing, you have to compare the XF23 mm F2 to the fixe one on the X100F not the XF 23 F1.4 and the price of the F2 is just 400$. I have this one is an excellent lens and I think is very charper than the 23mm on the X100 F and is very compact lens
Hi !!! Love your videos !!! Fantastic !!! I have a question. Is the autofocus on the XT-30 faster? I mean, is the XT-30 quicker more like a DSLR ? I have a X100-T, good for stills, not so good when you are out on the street and want to be quick to take a picture. How do they compare speedwise, both the X100-S and the XT-30 ? Thanks.
I don't own both cameras anymore so I can't do a direct comparison but I imagine they were probably about the same. If anything, the XT30 was faster.
BR......Thank you for the update. You merely confirmed what I keep telling myself.....the X100F continues to be for me. At the moment, I am merely trying to decide whether to upgrade to the next generation. I do street photography, graffiti/streetart and the images I see that interest me. I just printed my first 24x30 photo of a wonderful work by a favorite streetartist after returning from London for two weeks. We were there during the NATO meetings and Brexit election. I do not see how the V can possibly improve upon image quality for me as I am a guy taking photos because I enjoy it and do not have to make a living at it. Hence, the size, form factor, quality, ND filter, leaf shutter and overall great fun of the X series make it a keeper. I am tempted to buy an F and just put my current one tucked away as a backup because of the price. Happy New Year. Wayne
Thanks for watching!
The F is my go too camera it’s always a pleasure shooting with it. I’ll get the V for one main reason the flip screen only because it will save my old knees on low level shots the F will be my backup. I still have the x100 with the sab issue and still have my dead T killed during a flash flood 🥺 I’m in total awe of the x100 system 📷📷📷
You could have tried the X-T30 with the more compact zoom, the FUJINON XF 18-55 F2.8-4.
thanks booray
How did this video take 30 days to show up in my feed??
Excellent video, and timely too. I’m hoping the 100F comes down a little or the used market gets lower with the release of the 100V. It’s kind of pricey for me but...the flash sync/copal shutter and built in ND are so seductive.
Great Channel and Great work! Liked and Subscribed! But the closest lens you can get for the XT30 to match the X100F is 23mm f/2 and that costs you about $400. That makes the combo $1200 before any discount. With promotion that fuji usually runs every quarter, you will typically save about $200 on combo. So, you will end up paying about $1000 dollars if you buy it at the right time.
And you are right, X100 cameras are more portable and easier to carry around. For bigger lenses, XT30 is just too small to feel comfortable. For everyday use, I think the X100 cameras makes a lot of sense.
I do mostly streets, and I own a xt3 but I think I'm gonna trade my 16mm 1.4 and get the x100v now it's slightly cheaper than when it came out I always miss carrying a camera on my pocket with a nice 35mm eq lens
Good video. I had gone through the same thought process myself. I don’t get the criticism of factoring a zoom lens mounted on the X-T30 into the equation. That is totally relevant. I agree that the 100V might be quite awesome. Updated lens, fast focusing, newest sensor etc. Just wish they would’ve dropped the OVF to keep the price down. Please no XPro 3 flip down screen! Wouldn’t be a deal breaker, but would be quite a bummer. Holding hope that the flip down screen is reserved for the XPro3 ( I think it will be).
I’m on the horns of indecision. A few weeks ago I got a killer deal on an X100F, and I love it. The more I use the more it wows me. I am frankly astounded by the images I have produced with it.
Now it looks like the X100V may appear soon. It’s specs are, of course, speculation at this stage. It seems likely the auto focus will be improved, probably the resolution of the view finder, the sensor will have slightly higher resolution and be generally more advanced. A touchscreen might happen. The lens seems unlikely to change in speed or focal length, but perhaps it’s optics can sharpen a little at f2. Weatherproofing and in camera image stabilization look less likely. One of my biggest hopes is improved wireless transfer to computers/phones.
Sooooo. I can return the X100F for a full refund - a little less than $800 up until 31 Jan, wait a few weeks and land an X100V for maybe $1,500.
To do or not to do?
Yesterday I was squarely against the idea. Today, I’m inclined to go for it with the thought that if the F100V is underwhelming, it’s arrival will push the current $1,100 cost of the X100F to something closer the the $800 I paid.
Thoughts?
You can go cheaper and get the D-pad with the x-t20. Also with either that or the x-t30 you can adapt vintage lenses.
The XT30 will give you more options to buy glass. The 16mm 2.8 is just an awesome lens for the price. Also your getting better video quality. You could of just used the 18-55mm for family pics perfect fit for the XT30
Booray please get more excited about the xt30 which has super fast focus, flappy screen and interchangeable lens - inc the 23mm f2.
I was in the same dilemma, but I can’t seem to part with my x100f. I love prime lenses and the 23mm lens on the x100f is all I need. A 35mm would be nice too and you can buy a fairly cheap screw on converter lens for the x100f. The xt30 also loses the dpad which is essential for me, and to buy an equivalent 35mm and 23mm lens for the xt30 would cost nearly a thousand. Plus the X100 series I believe are more than just camera gear. The xt30 is just a camera body that will be obsolete in a few years, but the x100 series are beautiful special cameras, comparable to Leica, that will be future classics.
Another great video. My x100F is still my favorite. camera. I only use my sony aps-c camera or my Nikon DSLR when I need telephoto which is less often than I guessed ( sports, NOT travel or family)
Alan Morris agreed the F is my all time fave camera it’s an amazing wee beast I shoot big heavy canon gear for work and for personal stuff like sports and astro I have a Nikon D3s I love all these brands for different reasons but the F I love unconditionally 📷📷
I'm 100% with you. I had a xt-30 and loved the camera, but as a 'always with me' the x100v is just unbelievable, and the leaf shutter and the ND filter are so great, i use them all the time.
Thanks for watching and thanks for commenting 😃👍
@@BoorayPerry thank you for your tipps how to use the internal flash and the godox flash, they improved my fotos a lot
All is right for me. 😀
They will make it water resistant, that alone will be enough for some people to buy it. I personally shoot with the xe3 + 23mm f2 combo, they have it in a kit, a great bargain!!!
I have used Fuji X100 (The very first one) and then somehow used canon as well as Nikon for several years. But now with addition of X-E4, I think between Fuji X-E4 vs Fuji X100F AND Fuji X100V, I will go for X-E4. The pan cake combination is superb and ofcourse many other small lenses to try for to keep it compact. When you made the video, it made sense to go for X100 V but now I favour X-E4. Only better option is FUJIFILM X-Pro3. What is your take on X-E4. (I know it does not have leaf shutter which you like)
They are both great. If I were only to own one camera it would be the X-E4 just for the interchangeable lenses. But if that were the case, I would rather have a Pro3 or X-T4 (or x-t3/2).
But, for a SECOND camera I like the X100V. Leaf shutter, built in flash, dedicated ISO dial and dedicates focus mode switch. Weather sealing. Since I can always grab my X-T4 if I want interchangeable lenses, I would rather have a vacation camera that is more fun to shoot. I do wish it had a flip screen though. :)
@@BoorayPerry You are clear about your choices and being professional, you have more babies. As you said if just one camera than X-E4 and that is case for me to begin with :) Can move up the ladder if can do more professional shoots and not just 2-3 in a year or so! (which used to do by hiring Canon Mark iv). Thanks for replying
Booray, why didn’t you compare the xt30 with the 23mm f2.0? Oops, i see others raised this same question.
Hi Booray Perry, I can tell you this is one hell of a video. Why ? Bcoz even 10 yrs down the line, I'll be comparing if I'd prefer XT60 over X100E (Eight). Both have pros & cons, and I'm super-excited for this Fuji range of almost pocketable cameras !
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Right tools for right job mate I’m a press shooter big heavy canon gear an array of lenses up to the 500 f4 two speedlights transmitter etc in my day job I need the lot. On my own time I travel shoot street and landscapes I create you tube vids and I don’t want to cart around a mountain of kit I travel and shoot light the x100f never lets me down if I want to zoom I walk I love the F it’s an incredible mighty wee beast. the V hmmmmmm tough one I want it but do I need it 🤔🤔🤔🤔 hell yeah for the weather sealing and flip screen alone and that’s only to save my ageing knees 😆I’m in line for it. Great review mate love the chan 📷📷📷📷📷
any thoughts on comparing the x100f and ricoh gr iii?
If i could get someone to loan me a Ricoh I would love it
Fuji also has the cheap XC lenses. My X-T20 came with two of them. The 16-50mm and 50-230mm. The former being "meh" and the latter being superb. If one can get past the plastic build quality. The optics are quite good, especially for the the 50-230mm. . (And this is coming from someone who shoots with Leica and Zeiss glass). On the upside, they are small and very light weight.
There’s a lot to like about the X100. It’s really a unique and special camera. The fixed focal length lens frees me to focus more on composition and worry less about carrying extra lenses and gear that I most likely won’t use. If I could only own one camera, it would be an X100.
X100F and a smartphone is the best combo to focus just on photography.
X100f size, build quality, speed, almost silent shutter noise.. you kind of have to use it to appreciate it. In some ways it’s best to treat it as a 35m lens with a camera attached to it. If that’s the lens you pretty much like using most of the time then the x100f is better than the xt30 with 23m f2 in my opinion.
Simply because you can put it in your pocket as the lens doesn’t protrude as much and it has a filter built in so you don’t need to fiddle about with anything else. Using electronic shutter to avoid the shutter noise on the xt30 might be a negative if your trying to shoot quickly (street photography) and may get rolling shutter issues.
Also high electronic shutter speed to deal with bright light isn’t the same as using a filter if your looking for an artistic effect (movement in water or trying to use the flash to fill the face of a portrait in harsh light).
I feel the x100f is a “Swiss army knife” of a camera. It doesn’t do everything perfect but it has pretty much all the standard photography tools in a small well built package. It’s that combination and ease of use with dials etc.. that make it the better camera in my opinion. Especially if you already have another Dslr system.
Finally, although video is a lot better on the xt30 the lack of IBIS especially if you want to use the Fuji primes is a deal breaker. The shake is just too much. Some of the zooms have stabilisation which makes it much better but then it’s no longer pocketable or small and so it may defeat the purpose for some people.
I’m going to sell the xt30 and contune using the g80 for video. I think the x100f is a magical camera really. Definitely keeping that even though it’s more expensive. Just does it’s job so well.
The X100F= Leaf shutter, 3 stop ND filter, OVF (use it mostly for street) and the flash sync. I love it..
I shoot with the X100F, X-Pro2 and X-T30 and love the first 2, but not a fan of the SLR feel of the X-T30. The auto focus, sensor and flip screen are the strong points that I like on the X-T30 and the style, view finder and feel of the X-Pro2. Thinking about selling the pro2 and T30 and picking up a X-Pro3 to fill my needs/wants with one body.
I agree. The crappy grip on that X-T10. XT20, XT30 require an external grip in order to feel comfortable holding it, which defeats the smaller size IMHO.
@@Lainer1 I did add a JJC grip to the body, but yes it does make it a little bit taller and wider and improves the handling a lot. Please don't get me wrong It's a great little camera, I just don't like the SLR style EVF location. The range finder style OVF/EVF on the X100F and X-Pro2 work much better for my style of shooting.
I mean a big thing for me is just the viewfinder and the leaf shutter. I've been drooling over getting the x100f for ages and ages. Having heard rumors of the x100v I'm holding off until the specs and reviews are out before I take the plunge and buy one. But if the x100v doesn't have the hybrid viewfinder and leaf shutter of the x100f then it seems like an easy choice.
Oh, it will have both I'm sure
This video makes absolutely no sense. The xt30 was meant for the smaller primes which you totally forgot to mention the 23mm f2 and the other small f2 primes. The 16,23,35 & 50mm f2's. Maybe the camera would not feel so big if you had the correct lenses on it. That's like saying you bought a Kia and you put a ferrari motor in it and it didn't get good gas mileage. Come on buddy get correct facts together before making a video.
I thought I did a good job of explaining that since the X-T30 with a small prime does not equal the x100f, then the bigger zooms would have to be a deciding factor for me. Sorry I wasn't more clear.
Booray Perry do you think putting a 16-55 f2.8 lens on a XT30 made sense? The XT3 or XH1 but not the XT30. The video is a comparison between XT30 and X100V. The only way for this to make sense was a 23mm f2 on the XT30.
@@skipper4114 Good point, I was thinking the same thing. But in that case, the X100F would still be the winner for him presumably. Since it sounds like the built in ND filter and silent leaf shutter are important for him. ND for me is no big deal. I use the electronic shutter or throw on a -2 stop polarizer. Also, while not silent by any means, the shutter on my X-T20 is still fairly quiet. I don't do much 'street' so again, not an issue for me. Having said that, I own the X100T. X-T20, and X-T2. No interest in upgrading here. A more advanced sensor is always nice, but I don't care about any other bells and whistles.
@@barrycohen311 well said. I am waiting for the x100V myself. I sold all of my fuji gear and went Sony A7iii almost 2 years ago. But soon I am moving back to Fuji. I might just say the hell with it and just go with the X1ooV as my only camera. Cheers.
Putting a zoom lens on the x-t30 makes perfect sense to me because I feel that the main draw to choosing the x-t30 over the x100f is the ability to mount a zoom.
Leaf shutter. That is something the F or V has. Unlimited flash sync.
XT30 is a compromise in both directions and ergonomics is not good. The X100 series has the 28mm and 50mm equivalent conversion lenses. The digital zoom apparently only works with JPEG. Rumor has it that there might be a new 18mm equivalent conversion lens coming out with the new X100V. What would be cool is a new system that allows conversion lenses to be installed and removed the same way as an ILC works.
"The digital zoom apparently only works with JPEG" Good point, but that only makes sense. If you load a raw file into Lightroom and crop, you essentially have the same thing. But that is a bit more of a hassle of course.
I also hope the flip screen on the X100V won't be the same as the XPro-3. I understand the idea of not seeing the screen while shooting. I think FUJI could have just allowed the user to turn off the screen, or turn off the image and display simplified exposure info.
They already give you the option to turn off the screen.
My problem is that they are trying to force me to shoot a certain way and I'm gonna push back against that by reflex. Also, you are changing the way I chimp my shots and changing the way i access the menu. That's a lot of changes. How about you make the screen reversible so i can decide how I want to use it? It's funny that they make all the buttons customizable but then severely restrict the screen.
27mm doesnt have a ring also
The 100 series was a interesting camera to try but then I got a hold of the Panasonic Gx85 and for me it's so much better and a great one to have with my G9. Anyways the 100 series is a unique camera just who decides on the letter designations, just all backwards.
s=second
t=third
f=fourth
V=fifth (They couldn't use F again)
As much as I would love to live the x100 series. As a left eye shooter the x100is a none starter, as are all range finders. That’s what makes the XT30 with a pancake lens more attractive.
Holding the lens as a support is not a bad thing.
Now there is the fuji 23mm f2 available which is cheaper.
I use the x100f and I love it for all the reasons you mention. Point and shoot. Then I crop. Need no zoom, and I like grainy photos. The camera is extremely cool, light and quiet.
Thank you for this video! And a happy new year!
Thanks for watching!
Just bought the X100f new for 800€ and I‘m happy so far 😊 thanks for your videos
Marvin macht's hi marvin, where did you buy it for that price if i may ask?
if you use the XF23 F2 with the X-T30, then this is a small size and lower price
not sure if you have the same opinion that fuji should or at least wish fuji has a Full frame camera like a couple other youtubers but alternatively hows the idea that the X100V (next version) is actually full frame and fuji only need to create a custom ONE lens to fit/fix on to the body and be done with that. no need to create an interchangeable FF camera, just make the X100V fix lens camera full frame with the one lens stuck on to it.
anyways, i do hope that fuji at least implement the ND filter on to the H2 like they have on the X100F , it would really help with video and push the H2 higher in features compared to the XT4.
ND on the H2? interesting...
I'm okay that fuji doesn't do full frame. I think we have advanced enough now that full frame will start to be looked at the way we look at medium format.
There's no way they would make the 100V full frame simply because they would never increase the size of the camera. If they ever wanted to make a full-frame camera, the place to do it is the X-Pro. :)
How about the Fuji X-E3? Similar form factor to x100f. Just bought mine new from Wex photo for £529 and then got the £90 cash back from Fuji.
Personally, I have a hard time with a camera that doesn't have a viewfinder
The X-E3 does also have a viewfinder :-)
@@dbl1db lol... it does! I'm thinking of something else.I think the X-E3 is probably a fine camera but not as fun as the X100F.
Ya but the video capabilities alone make the xt30 a way better buy imo. In you're not into video then I dont know, grab the x70 or xf10. Those are phenomenal tiny point and shoots with damn near the same quality
Oh sure. I deliberately never discuss video because sure I don't care about video. It's hard enough trying to be a decent photographer without tacking video on to the equation 😂
I made it easy on myself and bought the XT-30 and the X100F, the X100V isn't out, so I probably don't need that.
Cheater. :) If I was going to would two I think I would get the X-T3 and the X100F. (Or the X-T4 and X100V!)
23mm F2 is a better choice for this comparaison !
x100v for the way
Not a Fuji user as i use Sony a7iii so take this with pinch of salt. I like Fuji and would consider the xt30. Yes when you take lens into consideration the xt30 might be more expensive but you are buying into a system camera for different focal length lenses. To me something like the x100 is an expensive second camera. I can't see too many people owning one as their only camera (the fixed lens is too restricting).
Another issue that would stop me buying a x100 is the retracting lens and the fear of sucking dust into camera body. I've had dust on my Sony sensors but I clean them myself when needed. I couldn't afford to send a camera in to clean the sensor on fixed lens camera.
Good points. I wouldn't have one as my only camera either but I know so many people who do..
@@BoorayPerry Yes there are some who have one as only camera. They tend to specialise in the sort of photography they do in which case in can suit a street shooter or maybe as a travel camera.
For me though it's a luxury as I like photographing a large amount of subjects.
Oh, also, isn't the cropped 70mm in the X100F is cropped too, right? So it isn't even the original sized file, it's cropped.
Yes, it's cropped in camera. I did a video about this and was surprised that the crop and upsize done in the camera is as good as doing it in photoshop. Of course you can crop any image in post but the digital zoom gives you the benefit of being able to compose in camera which I personally like. It will never be as good as an optical zoom but as I mentioned in the video, it's good enough when compared to the added weight and size of a zoom. :)
Here's the video about it: ruclips.net/video/4ztZM5lfuU8/видео.html
@@BoorayPerry Yeah, when I heard this, I was kind of bummed.
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x100v without the D pad is a pain. The touch screen is inconsistent and of limited use to left eye dominant shooters. I'm considering selling the x100v because it's size advantage over the xt2 is limited, its low light performance is inferior, its controls are near painful, and it's still not as sharp as the xt2 with the 27mm lens.... It's only practical advantage is, as you say, the leaf shutter, ND filter, flash sync and because the sensor is optimized for high key images with lots of light.... not sure that gives me that much of an advantage, personally.
I agree about the D pad. :)
There is a 23mm f/2 lens for Fuji- www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1191420-REG/fujifilm_xf_35mm_f_2_r.html
Again there’s a video on my channel 😂👌🏼👍🏼
I have a Ferrari but do I want a Toyota or Honda according to you. I really do have a Ferrari They are all awesome.
As for the x100v, its too less of a time to review it
Missing the 23mm F2 as a pro , is a big deal . It's a big difference in price and use . All the F2 lenses are very small and a treat for the Xpro and E-series as well the T10/20/30. The F1.4 lenses are better to be used on the T1/T2/T3 for shear fact of weight balance. The old 23mm F1.4 can be used sure , but it is slower , heavier , makes more noise. For a pro and don't knowing what Fuji makes ? the review should be done over again . My thoughts despite the later comments.
If I were a professional reviewer then I would do it over.
I'm sorry that I didn't do a good enough job being clear that it's about PRICE and not image quality. The whole point of that segment is simply to show that one of the two big reasons I was looking at the x-T30 was the $800 price point and that it's actually more like $1200. It doesn't matter what lens you mount. Use whatever you want and it's still not $800 was my point.
The point of the video is to show that I had two driving reasons for considering the X-T30; Price and zoom lenses. Turns out it's not so cheap and not so easy to use with zoom lenses. It's not a video about lenses and image quality. I'll leave that to the pro reviewers. I'm just a professional photographer who makes videos for fun. :)
@@BoorayPerry Okee.....but anyone can easy determine that the X-T30 is not a good match with the zooms for normal fact of weightbalance . The T30 is tiny - even compared to my X-pro which is even bigger than the T3. The zoom lenses fit best to the T3 and even better with additional grip. So yes , the X100f is still the best for allround stuff and street together with the Panasonic Gx9 and Olympus Pen-f maybe ( both good for b/w). And the advantages you mentioned are correct , ND filter , flash, hi-sync , fixed lens so less possibility of sensordust , and maybe the biggest is the fact that you can keep one eye on your subject and the other in the viewfinder - that is if your right eye dominates , and in addition your nose does not stick to the screen. So bingo the X100f rules . Apart maybe that the Panasonic has a tilt-viewfinder which is very handy and stealty for streetshooting.
1. 23/2.0 lens, as you state in comments you forgot.
2. Electronic shutter covers both the silent shooting and 3-stop ND filter. I use my 56/1.2 at 1.2 in sunshine all the time.
3. Maybe new 16-80mm is better choice than 16-55mm. It looses only 1 stop on aperture, but picks up 6 stops on OIS. You’d be shocked. And it is lighter, smaller, and a little skinnier.
4. What about other fantastic primes: 90/2, 56/1.2, 50/2, 35/2, 23/2, 16/2.8, and even the Venus Laowa 9/2.8?
5. Digital zoom: every camera has it. It is called “cropping”. I do it often in post editing, but very occasionally in body on my XT-1.
You’re forgetting of the 23/2.0 would be enough for me to redo this whole video if it were mine. My other points are just further suggestions/omissions. Of course you can justify the x100 simply with the flash sync leaf shutter alone if that is your thing. Personally, I’d opt for the XT-3 for my needs.
I think you missed the point of the video. Yes, I missed the lens but if I had mentioned that lens would it have changed my conclusion at all? If the f1.2 lens isn't going to sway me then the f2.0 lens certainly won't.
Are you talking about the 16-80mm f4? That's a two stop difference from f2.0.
I agree with you about the X-T3. If I was going to mount zoom lenses, I would get the X-T3.
Thanks for watching!
Booray Perry, with all due respect, your complaint on 23/1.4 was the cost, so the 23/2 is extremely relevant. It is also offered as a kit lens for a discount. Next topic: 16-55 zoom is not f/2. It’s f/2.8. 16-80 new zoom is f/4. So it is one stop, as I said. Your complaint on 16-55 was that it is heavy and too fat for the XT30 body. 16-80 addresses that, but is one stop slower. 23/2 on x100 doesn’t zoom at all. IMHO, precision in our words counts when other people are listening to our advice to make decisions.
@@swagonman Point one: yes, the cheaper lens is extremely relevant vs the $800 choice. However, I also referenced a $450 lens in the video. Even when offered as a kit lens the f2 lens is not much cheaper than $450 I suspect. My point being that my mistake in not listing that lens is not as bad as it could be. Had I only referenced $800 lenses when discussing price I would probably remove the video. My point was to show that the final price of the X-T30 is not far removed from the X100F and as such, "price" is not a big factor in considering the camera. Since price was the first thing that drew me to the camera, removing it is a big deal for me. That left the other big factor for me, zoom lenses.
Yes, F4 is one stop from f2.8 but it is 2 stops from the X100F lens and personally, that's too many for me, especially on a crop sensor camera. Yes, it's cheaper and lighter but at a cost (aperture) that, for me, puts it out of the realm of comparison with the lens that is on the x100F. I don't like having to settle for f2.8 on the zoom, there is no way I'm going to f4. That lenses doesn't even exist on my radar. But that's just me. For many people it's fine. Everyone has their stuff, ya know :)
I get what you're saying about precision, I really do. But I also think that You Tube is all things. it's a place where DP Review does a camera review that takes a day to film and covers every aspect of a camera and it's a place where people just come together and talk about cameras like they are sitting at lunch. I'm the latter guy. I'm gonna make mistakes. What matters is that I own them. I own that I missed the 2.0 lens but I contend that it would not have changed my conclusion one bit.
Oh, and I never use electronic shutter. When I want a fast SS it's either to freeze fast movement or knock down the ambient for flash, neither of which you can do with electronic shutter. This is what makes the leaf shutter so cool. :)
Oh, I didn't mention other primes because I assume that they are all great. FOR ME, considering this camera was never about the option to carry a bag full of primes. It was about price and the option to mount a zoom. Would these two factors be so great that I could overlook the things i miss by not having the X100f or X-T3.
The best part is that if I hadn't screwed up and left out that lens we wouldn't be having this discussion and this discussion is the most fun part of making videos. Really, if I made a perfect video that covered everything to everyone's satisfaction it would be kinda boring. LOL
Thanks for setting me straight
Now, here's my question for you: Why not the X-T3? Is the smaller body (and price) on the X-T30 really worth it? because the X-T3 is pretty small too.
Booray Perry Thanks for nice reply. As I stated in my first reply above, the XT3 would be my choice. I’m old, and the larger EVF makes a lot of difference for my eyes. But I hike and backpack, so if my eyes were better, XT30 for weight. And interchangeable lens is really important for landscape photos while hiking. I just got the Laowa 9mm f/2.8 manual focus for Christmas. It’s pretty awesome wide and tiny and distortion-free. Fuji should make one like that. Weight of 10-24 is too much for my hiking needs. A tiny 9mm, 16mm, and 35mm covers more range and balances better when camera is on diagonal shoulder/neck strap. Takes time to swap lenses, but need some rests when hiking anyway. I still want the new 16-80 for when I’m on vacation with my impatient family. I don’t shoot professionally at all, so can live with f/4 on the zoom. It can give shallow DOF at 80mm end. And maybe I’d keep the 23/2 or 35/2 in my pocket for DOF and bokeh when I want it at a lower focal length. Basically, I love being able to reconfigure my camera with interchangeable lenses. So that’s what works for me.
@@swagonman If I didn't have my Canon gear, i would probably have an X-T3. :)
X100V will be released in 2 months, by then I don't think you have a choice but to upgrade because nobody wants to watch another video about x100f!😊🍻
What are you talking about do you not research be for making these videos ? You can get the 23mm f/2 for around $300.
So you can pick up a used X-T30 for around $700 and a 23mm f/2 for around $300. That's way cheaper than XT100f plus you can upgrade lenses. Now what's the better deal ?
You are comparing used to new. You have to compare "new to new" or "used to used."
The bottom line is that if I was expecting to spend less on the X-T30 than I would on an X100F I was wrong.
Err...there is the XF23F2...
Yes, I have been reminded and it's addressed in the description. :)
Sorry but i dont think u can say which one is best for each or any user, only the user knows what he needs
Actually I can say that and did, right there in the video. :)
All review contains opinion. Otherwise it would just be people reading the manual out loud.
@@BoorayPerry Good for you, Im talking about the fact that each user knows what he really needs, not someone else can decide what he needs in his work.
Well, you know, it's opinion. I'm not sure what you want from me here. "If you want this buy that" is pretty common in opinion based commentary
@@BoorayPerry Of course its opinion based! your video, your title aint though! P.s i dont want anything from you my friend :)
$1399 --- €1499, there is no bigger injustice than this. Should be €1278,- (dollar equiv. to euro). €221/$244 too much.
Very helpful. Thank you. Now... How can I afford the v? 😂
Start a RUclips channel 😁
@@BoorayPerry even second hand it's over a grand. I've booked it to hire to compare with the xt30. RUclips channel is the only way. 😂
A fuji body with interchangeable lenses is nowhere near the same as an X100 even with a smaller lens. They are two different cameras for different purposes. The question isn't one or the other. You want both. The X100 goes almost anywhere and is meant to be simple. It's for the time when you don't want to bring your camera camera. I've had smaller bodies like the X-E3 but it was never the same shooting experience of an X100.
"your camera camera" I like that. 😁
don't trust those X100V CLICKBAIT rumors... whoever shares them ;)
LOL... Please send your sources deep into the bowels of Fuji and find out if the screen rumors are true!
@@BoorayPerry I will... and if you want... next time, if you quote FujiRumors as the source, I'd not be unhappy ;)
@@FujiRumorsOfficial I just assume that everyone knows you are the source. Like saying "I bought it online..." everyone knows you mean Amazon. If someone says they heard a rumor about fuji everyone knows it came from Fuji Rumors :)
you need to rethink posting videos
Hold please... Okay. Done.