Most Important John Frusciante Pedal?
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- Опубликовано: 23 авг 2024
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Wow man this is high quality content :) Everything looks really nice. The sound, the angles, everything. I like it a lot. If you can post videos like this regularly I'm sure your channel will grow quickly in the future
Wow! I'm really a fan of your work man. You've got amazing lessons with so much attention to details. Your original riffs are so cool! Your words means a lot. Thank you very much! :)
@@Vigi That moment when Nikola Gugoski comments on your post. Deep shit, man.
the man, the myth, the legend
I love the John Frusciante community! You two plus Dave Simpson, more recently red hot chili riffs, Justin Jenke and of course Jftabs are my go to for JF. Thanks guys.
Ohhhh so that's the one! :) Interesting after so long to see the deconstruction and reconstruction of the JF sound that's so natural to you. I think many of your guitarist subscribers appreciate this tremendously because they look up to you and there's so much you can teach them. What I was impressed by is your video editing: just phenomenal. The hard work really shows :)
Haha yeah! This one has been on my radar since the last one from like three months ago. 😂 Thank you very much! ☺️
thank you, this one addressed my long-time confusion: how John switches from a clean tone to another one with a bit overdrive and crunchy feel without stamping any pedals.
Hah, I just watched this last night and today I wake up to the news that Behringer is also making a copy of this pedal. It was the first thing that popped up in my newsfeed... Would be nice if they actually make it right and a lot cheaper. Anyhow, great stuff dude - thanks for all the content. One of the first songs I learned was Slow Cheetah and I got it from your videos. Keep up the great work :)
Wow cool! I didn’t know that! I’m super happy to hear you learned the song! :)
Hello! Vigi👋 Great Job & Beautiful Video✨
Kentaro Kiuchi Hello! Thank you very much!☺️ I love your work. Can’t wait for the book. 😀I follow your progress on Instagram. 👍👏
The CE1 is crazy expensive. I'm kinda surprised that there aren't many reproductions out there. It's a pretty unique pedal where it compresses/distorts the sound that is higher than it's threshold but keeps everything under it really clean. i'm not sure if any other pedals work that way.
I agree it’s really unique.
It might drop price one day but as long as you have a dirty tone that will work
@@kaicottrell1560 There are pedals that do the job for a better price. I personally use the Tone City Golden Plexi and it works great.
At the end of the day your never gonna be 100%
I found a ce-1 for about £300
I like this kind of videos 100 % ! The feedback in the end is awesome BTW, especially the quick echos as you stop :)
Thank you! I love feedback. :)
@@Vigi Yes it's a nice effect.
One day, I'm going to buy a chorus ensemble clone! It's the missing part in my Frusciante sound "chase". Your demonstration of it is really convincing.
I think it’ll solve a lot of problems for you. :) What amp do you have?
@@Vigi I have an Orange Tiny Terror that has been modded to sound kind of Blackmore-ish because I'm a huge Blackmore fan. I plan to mod the mod (:D) because it sounds too harsh. It's designed to sound good with a fuzzy preamp.
And I own a cheap transistor practise amp, the Hotone British Invasion. Sounds pretty good, though, plus I have the possibility to run a stereo rig.
I run them pretty clean but with a small amount of gain to compress the volume of my WH10 and some drive pedals. Kind of what the CE1 does but not as nice sounding as your rig ;)
I’ve actually used the Tiny Terror a lot in band practice. I did always bring my ce-1 but I view that amp as being a gain/crunch amp. So I’m not sure the ce-1 was so necessary. The ce-1 is prefect for amps with a clean channel like the jubilee. :)
Do more videos like this man. This was phenomenal! Good job Vigi.
That honestly means a lot! I was a little uncomfortable trying this style, so thank you very much! ☺️ It was a lot of fun and I learned a lot.
Vigi Are you no longer active on Instagram? I'd like to get in touch with you somehow haha (:
I am! I just haven’t posted. 😂Feel free to message me. 👍
Vigi, my friend. Awesome video. Will be investing in a new chorus pedal when I get the coin!
Great work, Vigi!
Thank you! 😀
3:00 is the amp crunch sound and 9:53 is the ce1 crunch sound. Use those stamps to compare
Great idea! Thank you! ☺️
How does the preamp in the CE-1 compare to a clean boost pedal like an EP Booster?
We ordered the pastfx preamp pedal off reverb it 's coming soon
Sweet! I assume it’ll work exactly like I explained here. :)
I want this chorus! Nice😄
yesyuta I can really recommend it. However it is about to (or already is) temporarily discontinued due to lack of the BBD-chip (MN3002). 😔
Vigi wow. Maybe I try to look for second hand. Thank you for uploading this!
It’s a lovely pedal. Thank you! ☺️
@@Vigi Yes it has been discontinued since July 1st :/. I was lucky and saw Will's post on Instagram just in time. Immediately, I ordered one. I don't watch the latest Instagram posts everyday so this was real luck!
@@yesyuta I hope you find one :)
Yes, please!!! Great idea. Great video. New sub!! Keep up the great videos!!!
Thank you very much! :)
i found a way to recreate this effect with a different pedal. i was playing with a JHS series 3 distortion (basically ds2) and found that on low levels it's really sensitive to input, so clean on soft strums and dirty with more input. not sure if all distortion pedals would have that effect, i haven't seen it from overdrive pedals. i was able to recreate tube like clipping using tube amp modeller into speakers that way.
Interesting! Do you get good interaction with other pedals like distortion that way? :)
@@Vigi i ended up putting it at the very start of the chain so that i could use compression and still get the input sensitive effects. doesn't help with volume jumps but. i can kick on a fuzz or other high gain pedal without that pedal jumping higher than its set. and it doesn't cause a bunch of white noise like stacking two high gain pedals. i'm thinking of getting a new distortion pedal and using this pedal solely for this effect. sounds really good for cleanish stuff like cant stop or under the bridge rhythm sections, and if the gain is turned up a bit it sounds like an overdrive for lead
i'm definitely going to upload an under the bridge jam using this effect. it really forces you to play gently to get a clean tone and ends up sounding better and really unique as the level of clipping is constantly changing
Interesting solution! :)
I have the original CE 1 and it’s just an amazing pedal
DS-2 And Chorus is Massive give you that 1999 sound from give it away
Indeed! :)
Give it away is from 1991
@@farioxx I know I was on about Woodstock 1999
1:14 hahaha
Excellent video, great dedicated work!!!
Thank you ;D
😂😂😂
Thank you very much! ☺️
woah your channel is getting better and better vigi! Can't wait for the next one!
Also, when you can ofc, I would like you to review the new WH10v3 and maybe do a comparisson
Thank you very much! :)
Honestly, I will probably not buy one. But I could make a video about it because I have some thoughts on the topic. :D
@@Vigi oh, yeah I would appreciate your thoughts! (I want a review bc I need to see if that "true bypass" screw all the things up :) but any input is well appreciated!
Aha ok! Thanks for you input! 👍☺️
Outro riffs were the best part
Very nice video! Did you ever compare the Triungulo Lab chorus ensemble with the one that Pastfx produces?
Thank you! :) No, that would be too expensive for me just for a comparison. :D
More JFru videos are always welcomed :) No need to ask anyone ! :D
Haha awesome! 😄
Great video. Very interessting. High quality too.
I’m just thinking of the power tubes natural distortion as he plays very loud i presume. So the preamp on the chorus may be not that important, or at least less maybe.
Keep on doing great content like this.
Cheers.
Well that should help. :) Thank you! :)
@@Vigi you’re welcome :)
Great job man!
Thanks man! 👍🤘
There are many pedals that can do what this boost does to a degree where it would be really hard to tell which is which and I have a CE1.
Hey, Vigi, nice to see you, man! Gray video, as always! :)
Hey! Thank you very much! ☺️ Very gray indeed. 😂
Beautifully described. I am currently using a tone city goldenplexi for the pre-amp you're referring to but need a chorus pedal (want a chorus pedal) so maybe this is it.
Compressor is secret weapon of John
you should definitelly buy a fourth DS2!!!
Hahah xD
Do you think this can be achieved with other booster such as the microamp?
Is there any difference between this and the past fx chorus ensemble? They seem to be two awesome pedals
Are there any other pedals that would do this?
Perhaps just a boost pedal that has a gain, volume, bass, and treble?
Probably a bit late but the mxr micro amp
@@gabagool288 never too late! Though I’m looking at line 6 helix 😮.
They seem a lot less stressful (cables, power supplies, noise)
Got the past fx preamp pedal it sounds Bob on 90% there
Sweet! 🔥
They do 2 brilliant flanger klones as well. I have the Elastic Mattress.
Great video dude!
Thank you very much! ☺️
Have you compared this mini commemorative head with a fellow of the same sv20x line? I want to get John's tone and I'm torn between these two options, can I get the same tone out of him?
I'd say the Ibanez wah is the ultimate for his sound because you can get around the ce-1 by using distortion channel and have the gain low
I just use the Distortion channel and have the gain low but if you put it to about 4 the fuzzy filter sound goes away. Or you can use a clean channel but that volume jumps which you kinda of want that anyway but not too harsh.
It doesn't volume jump if you as suggested in the video.
Awesome video
Thanks!
Can the pastfx chorus do the same things? I can’t find the comparison video 😭
I don’t know too much about it but I’d assume so. :)
Level knob came off my preamp pedal it still works
Maybe it as a little screw on the side you could tighten up? 🤔
great vid
Thanks! 👍
So does the PastFx Chorus Ensemble MN3007 work just as well as the Triungulo Lab Chorus Ensemble or should i but the Triungulo Lab?
I haven’t tried PastFX. :0
Great video
Thank you! 😀
Marshall isn't important as well all you need is a DS-2 important for John's lead tones a Cry Baby wah pedal or a Vox or maybe even Ibanez I'd recommend a Vox or a Cry Baby and a Chorus Pedal I just use the Distortion channel and have the gain low
It only adds crunch in the low mode for me if I crank the bass and volume I use high mode
Interesting!
Great information but I wished the pedal was readily available in the USA.
Thank you! Living in Europe I’m happy there’s finally good stuff here too. 😅
Even though it volume jumps you can also use a distorted channel but that is too fuzzy.
Yeah I don’t think it’s appropriate for JF sound.
Why doesn't the Pastfx preamp pedal not add crunch in the Low mode I watched Dave Simpson video of it and it didn't add any crunch in the low mode probably because he's using solid state amp
It’s very interactive with which amp you’re using and also how you set the amp up. I usually end up using the high impedance mode. :)
His amps were set to edge of breakup
How to use this pedal to use as a preamp for a dirty clean sound
Yep, that’s what this video is about indeed. ☺️
Vigi how do u think dis pedal will do wit a fender twin reverb? For a dirty clean sound
Hmm, I have no experience using this pedal with fender amps but I’m a bit skeptical. I assume it would not be optimal.
Goog demo !
can you help me please, I have the same pedal, the preamp works well but when I turn on the chorus there is a crackle on a fairly high volume, when I lower the volume you can't hear the crackle less.
It is normal or no ?
Yes, do more videos
Thank you very much for your feedback! ☺️👍
I get a replicate of a Boss ce-1 preamp sound that way.
Great!
12:25 that was a really long note-hold
Indeed! 😄
Cool! Mind blowing! I want to achieve such tone! Thanks for the info! I just wish I had enough money to purchase at least the ibanez wah and the pedal you used in the video. It sounds perfect! What kind of fuzz do you use, btw?
Thank you very much! Yes, the chorus version is quite expensive. But if you’re only after the crunch, you can get for example the Triungulo Lab Ensemble Crunch, which is much cheaper. Dave Simpson seem to get good results with the jackhammer and golden plexus for crunch. So that’s some other cheaper options for you right there. :)
In the video I used the Boss DS-2 I believe. ☺️
@@Vigi. I've recently bought a DS2 and I may receive it next week. Thanks for the help!
We ordered a marshall mg 30WCFX it's coming next Thursday hopefully
Cool! Let me know what you think of it. 😊
@@Vigi I've played an old mg before.
Great video! I ordered the Deluxe today 😉.
I've got a question. So, if I were to use this pedal on a Fender Hot Rod Deluxe IV, would I still require a Golden Plexi/Jackhammer to tame the DS-2 and WH10, or will this pedal's preamp give me enough crunch and compression?
Thank you! :) In general, this pedal’s preamp will be enough. I don’t know how this particular amp will behave though. :)
2:05 thats the tone
😀
I guess the CE-2 W doesn’t work for this :)
Nope. But from the demos I’ve heared, the chorus sounds very good. ☺️
Hello vigi, i have the pastfx version. Idk if it's the pedal or something else but the pre-amp only starts to crunch on high mode after 1 'o clock. On low mode i can't even get it to crunch. Do you have an idea on why this is?
@@jaspertenkoppel5035 It depends on the amp, how it’s set up, and other pedals in the chain. :)
@@Vigi Thanks! I think I need to buy an attenuator to crank my jube 😂
@@jaspertenkoppel5035 Yeah it probably doesn’t crunch earlier because the amp settings is set up low and therefore have a lot of headroom :)
Can you tell me where should I put it in my effect chain? As last right before amp? Thank You.
Did you know you can take off the DS-2 Turbo and mellow mode knob I did it and I thought I broke it but I got it back on.
why are you spamming comments on every single john Frusciante tone video
Frusciante fan you are one annoying kid
how do you like your silver jubilee vs the big 100w?
I love the 20 W reissue! 👍 I have never tried the 100 W. The 100 W is too much for my purpose. 😂
The amp must be set to edge of breakup
Nice Job! I'm thinking about getting a mini silver jubilee, how loud is it at home? do you use any attenuators, and if yes, which one do you use?
Thank you! Yes I use Kosh attenuators. But I think there might be better options out there. 🤔 At least I’m interesting in trying other ones. Ox Box would be really interesting, but it’s quite expensive. 😮
@@Vigi cool! thanks for the infos. Have a nice day!
You too! :)
Whats the song at 11:30?
Would this pedal also work this way with other clean amps? (Does it really distort the signal or just push the amp?)
I own a mini silver jubilee, but I don‘t want to use it at home. Would the ensemble crunch work with for example a Boss Katana or a Roland JC-40?
Greetings from Europe! :)
When I have had band practice over the years I’ve come into contact with different amps and I’ve always used this pedal for crunch. But different amps colors the tone in different ways, which can become more evident when kicking in the ds-2. Therefore, some amps are more pleasant than others.
I have not tried this with the amps you mentioned, but based on what I’ve written above, I expect it to work more or less. ☺️
Greeting! :) I’m also from Europe. :)
@@Vigi Thanks for your answer! I think I‘ll order one :)
Europe? Which country are you from? I can‘t tell by your accent ^^
Cool! Hope it works out with the amps you’ll use. :)
Haha I’m glad to hear that. I was afraid it could be heard clearly. 😅 I’m from Sweden. You? :)
@@Vigi Yes, me too, I think I would make a Video too then.
I‘m from Austria😊
Interesting how it’ll sound. :)
Great work , what guitar are you useing ?
Thank you! It’s a partscaster that I’ve built. :)
When did John use the big muff? did he use it for solos WITH the ds-2?
I have a video about it on my channel. :)
so it's sort of acting like a boost pedal as well as a compression pedal? i wonder if it would have the same effect you discussed at 10:00 if it were used with a non-tube amp. because the variable distortion based on strumming is a very tube-amp effect and not something i'd expect to see from a solid state amp or even a tube amp modeller.
Yes! I’d assume you’d get a similar result with a non tube amp. I believe that Dave Simpson also gets his crunch from a pedal while using a solid state amp. :)
@@Vigi interesting i suppose that the pedal is sensitive to input the way a tube amp would be, i think that pedal would be great for me, maybe someday! i'm not really sure which pedals to get next as i've got all the essentials
@@ToppaliniTube Yeah I think so. :) What do you got? :)
@@Vigi I have a few pedals almost all from different companies. The main ones I use are behringer compressor (had a keeley comp used but it was purchased damaged and stopped working). Jhs distortion which is similar to ds2. Wh10v3 and behringer optical wah hb01 (behringer was replacement while ibanez put new switch in wh10). Behringer wah is good wh10 replacement substitute. Ehx flat iron fuzz. Corona tc chorus. Also joyo amp modeller with a studio monitor and 1 watt blackstar tube amp. And a few other things I don't use much
@@Vigi also for guitars i use g&l tribute strats. i think they're as good as american strats except they use cheaper wood and maybe other components. but one of them i have has american pickups and putting some american g&l humbuckers in the other. i'd prefer an american standard strat but too expensive and their frets are too small, i'd wear out frets in maybe 2 years.
Can you achieve the same effect with the mxr micro amp?
Sounds like a fun thing to try in a video. :)
So you are saying john got his clean gain from the chorus, not from the micro amp? Is there some evidence for this?
It’s in the video. :)
@@Vigi Exactly at where? Just watched it again. Have you done a side by side comparison? Cause to me that ce-1 volume sounds and acts just like a normal boost pedal. Increases the volume to the point the preamp cant handle it, then gets distorted.
What about giving away one of those turbo distortion¿ 🙃
Haha hmm. Well one is a bit broken, and then it’s convenient to have one stationary at home and one for band practice, since I use it a lot. ☺️
Is that important as well Japan version of ds2
What's the difference?
They say John used it because there's 3 on his board at slane castle he used a fuzz factory in the intro
What is the current requirements?? is it low?
You'll need higher than normal.
Do you use high or low impedance? I finally got one and trying to figure out how to use it with my rig
I’ve found myself using both modes frequently. I just dial it in together with the level knob until I get the level of crunch I want. :)
@@Vigi Ah ok, that makes sense. I want it as an always on pedal that I don't ever have to mess with. I've found that on 60% volume low impedance, it sort of smooths everything out especially the ds2 and wah combo, while doing some volume control and not muddying signal. Higher than this has cool crunch for the very crunchy stuff but doesn't work with ds2+wah with my rig. I've also found that when it's used for low or mid gain sounds that the clipping is really inconsistent and not good sounding.
I'm really glad I went for the full chorus build instead of just the preamp build because the preamp isn't what I imagined and hasn't fundamentally changed my tone. But I think when I try with tube amp and not my amp box rig it'll do better. But the chorus sound of this circuit is unbelievably good. I mean I literally can't believe it. I've only tried a couple choruses but it blows them out of the water completely.
You can get a slight crunch tone in a clean channel if you max your volume level to 10 you will get a slight ce-1 crunch tone.
Yes but I think that crunch is different from the ce-1 and not really what I want.
thats how Frusciante used Silver Jub.
Definetively dont need this pedal
At the end of the day, all you need is to enjoy the artform. 😊
What model is this Stratocaster?
It’s a partscaster. I have made a video of me building it.
Why so much reverb on his mic?
Because this is his first talking head video and he doesn’t know what he’s doing. 🤷♂️
I see. Well, please be sure to let him know that his video is very good.
I’ll let him know, thank you. :)
Greatest video on RUclips dedicated to John. A series of these videos would be so appreciated!!
If you want you can check my channel with some John/rhcp covers!!
Thank you!
so when did John use his micro amp? was that always on too?
For extra boost/crunch, like Can’t Stop. :)
@@Vigi Or give it away? Songs where his "clean" tone had to be loud and up front?
@@Vigi I'm referring to live performances
The tone doesn’t really get louder if you apply the idea in the video. It’s more about getting extra crunch to the tone. Also, the micro amp changes the EQ a little. :)
@@Vigi How would you say the micro amp changes the eq? Would you say the CE-1 preamp is very flat eq?
Just play the sob!
Sob? :)
Чувак, очень круто 👍
Will this pedal actually get me close to John's tone
Yes, especially if used with a suitable amp. :)
@@Vigi Obviously it won't bring you 100% but it will get you close
If you’re just after the crunch, it’s quite easy to get a good JF tone without the pedal. But when you start to add more pedals like ds-2, then this is very useful. However, there are many other great pedals to achieve this as well. Dave Simpson is very good at this. :)
@@Vigi I prefer the preamp sound hopefully this week it's coming.
@@kaicottrell1560 Yeah it's a nice sound indeed. What amp are you going to use it with? :)
Killer
Thanks! 👍☺️
which pickup are you using?
Mostly neck, little bridge at the end.
@@Vigi pickup Fender noiseless?
Aha sorry 😂 SSL-1’s.
@@Vigi 😅 thanks
Does filter mean fuzzy
Hi, you conected the effect to input or loop fx? I hace this amp too. Amazing great content video. Thanks
Hi! To input. Thank you! ☺️
man... the most important jhon frusciante pedal ist die MXR MicroAmp lml,
I’ve made a video comparing the two. :D
@@Vigi yes man!!! i already saw it! Do you think Frusciante conect the MXR after or before the saturation?... i make my own pedals by myself and i made last week an mxr microamp, sounds amazing
What do you mean with saturation in this case?
@@Vigi i mean with saturation pedals like fuzz, overdrive and distortion. I think he uses a Big Muff 3rd Edition, Ibanez distortion and boss overdrive... but to sound so clean like in Can't Stop for example, i think he puts the MXR before the distortion and stoff. What do you think?
I have the Taiwan version
Ok.
Imagine combining 3 ds2
Yeah 😅
Could maybe do a video of 3 ds2 combined
To be honest, I don't care enough about this junkie's tone? It's nothing revolutionary...just like JF's tone and playing, nothing special
Why did you click on this video then?