Edit, i have made updates and edits in the description of the video! Bhopping isn't frame perfect. It is about near tick perfect jumps (1-7 give or take)! But more fps generally makes it easier.
tip: this is extremely hard to do on offline servers with no ping, so if youre practicing offline, put "net_fakelag 30" in the console to simulate artificial ping (so its easier to hit)
This needs to be higher. Let's you practice the maps you play the most without all the chaos. I accidently discovered this while trying to get my garden timing down I thought I would try this command. Started hitting bhops all of a sudden and was confused until I realized the correlation.
This video was beautifully executed, encompassing all of the instructions and helpful tips for a beginner to start their bhopping journey. You really outdone yourself on this one, Erk! You deserve a good break.
Great video. Love how you did the research into this tutorial bc the other ones were missing a lot of info. As a Medic main, I think bhopping has its uses for other classes. Also bhopping with the air strike is easier if you practice a lot. Here’s a list of useful examples with every class from personal experience : Scout: You can’t no matter how hard you try. Double jump interferes Soldier: low hp with the escape plan and the air strike and market gardener examples you mentioned Pyro: Powerjack or detonator jump and Powerjack bhopping combo Demoman: useless unless you’re a Demoknight with a 4 head Eyelander Heavy: GRU or being whipped by a soldier on ur team Engineer: only useful if escaping or combine with a wrangler jump Medic: perfect for dodging, escaping or whenever ur healing a Scout Sniper: kinda useless unless u rocket surf and then hit a few bhops Spy: Taking dmg while using DR or using big earner Another thing to mention is that Gravel Pit and Granary has a few bhopping spots that are rlly useful. This is a great vid man.
Yea although I'm pretty experienced with bhopping I made sure to do extra research for this video. You can always learn something regardless your level
@@erk.365 You're not wrong abt learning new things. I forgot to mention that bhopping with the tomislav as a Heavy works and its a common strat that a lot of heavy mains use
12:30 this is called an edgebug, where you surf on the very last pixel of an object, negating fall damage. very hard to pull off intentionally in tf2 servers because of the high tickrate. but this technique can be pulled off on any object in tf2
At 12:31 you did a type of bounce hop where you can uncrouch and jump in the same game tick to negate fall damage. No one really knows about it since it requires very specific conditions.
The smaller the technique, the more versatile and flexible it can be in practice, so thank you for makimg this detailed but easy to follow and apply tutorial!
Holy shit I started today barely able to hit single bhops on tr_walkway and literally a couple of quick drills bhopping from the wall to the ramp and now I can hit quadruple and quintuple bhop gardens! Time for hightower babyyyy. Nice vid man ❤️
VOICE OMG You sound beautiful Also this very well needed and you did it very well You are the best in Bhopping in the world so learning by you is an honor I love you and keep Bhopping Also hope you get more views
12:30 I've encountered the same things it's because of the train rails. If you go down fast enough and try to bhop on them u can edgebug for a split second and negate fall damage. It's really weird .
12:25 this was 2 years ago so I'm sure you know by now, but that was a crouch bug, when you uncrouch and jump at perfect timing, and lucky server ticks, you can cancel fall damage.
negating fall damage from a bhop is called a jumpbug very similar to a bhop but its when your uncrouch at the same time as bhoping u womt take fall damage. it only works at certain heights though
that first guy was named thorn the dragon which is a reference to the series "inheritance cycle" in book murtagh thorn is one of the main characters and is also a dragon
At 12:26 you did a jumpbug not a bhop. They are simillar but jumpbugs are way harder to time since you have to jump in your uncrouch animation as your landing (tick perfect almost)
damn i was wondering why i couldnt hit any bhops in walkway, as soon as i used the net_fakelag command i started chaining like 5 bhops like it was nothing, guess i have the talent
When you don't take fall damage, it's probably because you've edge bugged off a pebble or some tiny little bit of the map that otherwise has no effect on the game but on most maps, there are some little oddities like that. You don't have to bhop to utilise them.
There is no extra speed from what I understand. The extra speed reading is coming from the new vertical speed (whether upwards at the start or downwards by the end of the jump) counting into your total speed. Before you had 320 horizontal. Now you have 320 horizontal + ~70. This may be wrong though if your speed reader is tracking horizontal speed only but I doubt it since it clearly goes much higher when you fall off a cliff, indicating that’s it’s tracking vert+horizontal.
So, I have a pretty bad pc, 90 FPS max, and 20-300 ping every now and then. And I get people telling me its impossible to bhop with only the spacebar, "It needs multiple spacebar inputs in a second". Though I bhop with only the spacebar, so is this just misinformation or what
@Sardarge_ it is you can bhop with just space bar. FPS doesn't matter much but helps a lot. All it comes down to though is timing and practicing. There is no perfect method
how can you tell at 11:50 that you are hitting the bhops right or not? is there a sure way to tell without having the MG out to test if you get crit or not? also at 12:41, can you actually get an MG crit if you can't hear the woosh sound from the Rocket Jumper? Thanks for the help
12:31 i thought you did an accidental manual jumpbug but after watching closer u can see how you slid a bit, its probably a micro edgebug or slopebug right before the bhop, still funny regardless
Is it a glitch on your screen keyboard emulation or you really use S as walk right and D as walk back? +F as atack and Shift also does something. What a strange thing. Are your fingers broken?
You only want to use it to walk forwards to start the bhop(samething with rocket jumping). When your bhopping you dont want to use W to move or itll mess up the directionin which your tryna go, so only use your strafe keys (left and right) when you get a running start and that will keep your speed as you jump. progression 2 in the video is how'd you do it
Great guide! Have you ever heard of this tf2 mod called open fortress? If not you should definitely check it out cuz I feel like you would dominate every server you’re in since bhopping is an actual movement mechanic in the game and you’re basically a bhopping god in tf2
Any thoughts on this?: I've experimented with macros/loops which spam the jump action, and it looks to me that no matter how perfect is the synch between jumping and being close to the ground, there is still a big chance the server won't register your bhop, and this chance appears to change both between different servers and in a same server over time.
there is a server side "WAIT" command that stops you spamming inputs with commands servers with this command disabled will have no problem with a loop/macro but any valve server will be inconsistent af, this will be because you may get lucky and your jump will perfectly sync up with the wait timer, other times it will not. This is why it will appear to change in the same server over time and different servers. You are infinitely better off learning the actual bhop technique. Hope this helped.
@@DetectiveDeuche thanks! that was really helpful, but I forgot to say that I also have experimented doing the same thing but using mwheeldown too (I always bhop using mwheel, the macros where just an experiment) and the same phenomenon still occurs, I can also say that macros aren't of much help, they are similar to using the wheel in terms of bhop success. For example in private lan servers both using macros and mwheeldown I get the same average consecutive bhops (like 8 consecutive bhops average) In the end macros might be useful for people who suck at using the mwheel, but as you get better using macros isn't really an advantage and it might even be worse because it makes it harder to control when and how to bhop , so I doubt pros use macros
@@Prisoner for sure, I also noticed if you do more then about 8 inputs a second the game cant handle it and will just sease registering jump inputs all together so I find mwheel useful but if you go too fast it'll basically be worse than just jumping with space
@@Prisoner I dont know the exact number for certain but it seems to be around 8-10 inputs before the server gives up, you can try yourself by going on a server with sv_cheats 1 and doing "host_timescale 0.5" or "host_timescale 0.25" and see how many jump inputs you can manage while bhopping before the game stops you being able to jump for me the sweetspot seems to be 9 inputs or less provided my timing was good always seems to work but more than that is where it starts to cut out, 15 and above was almost always too many but I have no idea where the hard limit is.
Two questions, does ist make a difference when having other configs. For example different interp settings. And the other question is if it is weird that i have the Feeling that on different servers there is a slightly different timing needed, up to the point, that it doesnt even work.
What bothers me is I see people still do it to this day, so I know it's still possible, but I've been trying ever since I first learned how to rocket jump years ago and have not been able to trigger it once. I'm of the belief that there's some secret method that just nobody's talking about, handed out under the table among soldier mains.
You can crouch while in the air but you can't hold crouch as the same time your trying to jump it won't work. As your in the air you can do anything movement wise but you do a regular jump to bhop and in the air you can crouch
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Edit, i have made updates and edits in the description of the video! Bhopping isn't frame perfect. It is about near tick perfect jumps (1-7 give or take)! But more fps generally makes it easier.
how do i unbind
@@smartr0ve type into console "unbind (key)" and it'll make it null
@@erk.365 how can i make the key change the guns again? it becomes null if i press unbind xD
tip: this is extremely hard to do on offline servers with no ping, so if youre practicing offline, put "net_fakelag 30" in the console to simulate artificial ping (so its easier to hit)
Ty, very much :D
This needs to be higher. Let's you practice the maps you play the most without all the chaos.
I accidently discovered this while trying to get my garden timing down I thought I would try this command. Started hitting bhops all of a sudden and was confused until I realized the correlation.
ty so much! i tried for so long and it didn't seem to work
omg finally someone makes a bhopping tutorial, soundsmiths one is good but dosent have detail thank you man
Yea I remember first learning bhops and watching soundsmith’s video and it was just like “get good at rocket jumping and bhop is easy.”
@@colatf2to be honest his bhoping aren’t stellar the most ive seen him do is 3
Erk on his way to your house
Erk bhop to ur house*
This video was beautifully executed, encompassing all of the instructions and helpful tips for a beginner to start their bhopping journey. You really outdone yourself on this one, Erk! You deserve a good break.
No breaks right now, just gas 😎
In the past, I could've sworn that any class would go a tiny bit faster with bhopping, nice to see it confirmed-ish
Great video. Love how you did the research into this tutorial bc the other ones were missing a lot of info. As a Medic main, I think bhopping has its uses for other classes. Also bhopping with the air strike is easier if you practice a lot. Here’s a list of useful examples with every class from personal experience :
Scout: You can’t no matter how hard you try. Double jump interferes
Soldier: low hp with the escape plan and the air strike and market gardener examples you mentioned
Pyro: Powerjack or detonator jump and Powerjack bhopping combo
Demoman: useless unless you’re a Demoknight with a 4 head Eyelander
Heavy: GRU or being whipped by a soldier on ur team
Engineer: only useful if escaping or combine with a wrangler jump
Medic: perfect for dodging, escaping or whenever ur healing a Scout
Sniper: kinda useless unless u rocket surf and then hit a few bhops
Spy: Taking dmg while using DR or using big earner
Another thing to mention is that Gravel Pit and Granary has a few bhopping spots that are rlly useful. This is a great vid man.
Yea although I'm pretty experienced with bhopping I made sure to do extra research for this video. You can always learn something regardless your level
@@erk.365 You're not wrong abt learning new things. I forgot to mention that bhopping with the tomislav as a Heavy works and its a common strat that a lot of heavy mains use
Thanks for the video Man, the amount of time u spent doing it was definitely worth it
12:30 this is called an edgebug, where you surf on the very last pixel of an object, negating fall damage. very hard to pull off intentionally in tf2 servers because of the high tickrate. but this technique can be pulled off on any object in tf2
Thank you for the tutorial! helped me a lot!
Glad I can help!
bro gave us therapy on the tips
At 12:31 you did a type of bounce hop where you can uncrouch and jump in the same game tick to negate fall damage. No one really knows about it since it requires very specific conditions.
a bounce hop
as opposed to a hop where you dont bounce.
two words with identical meanings.
The term your searching for is Jump Bug.
within 5 days i managed to do it thanks to you tysm
Its here! Been waiting some time for this erk, thank you :)
Helpful video! I instantly liked when I heard the crash bandicoot ost!
12:31 this happens because of how close you were to the edge of that wood wall you did a edge slide which sometimes causes lack of fall damage
Edgebug b like
The smaller the technique, the more versatile and flexible it can be in practice, so thank you for makimg this detailed but easy to follow and apply tutorial!
thanks for the tips, I just landed my first quintuple bhop garden and it was pretty cool
Holy shit I started today barely able to hit single bhops on tr_walkway and literally a couple of quick drills bhopping from the wall to the ramp and now I can hit quadruple and quintuple bhop gardens! Time for hightower babyyyy. Nice vid man ❤️
Super glad to hear that! Makes me happy. Kill it man!
Came for the bhop tutorial, stayed for crash bandicoot songs 😎
VOICE OMG
You sound beautiful
Also this very well needed and you did it very well
You are the best in Bhopping in the world so learning by you is an honor
I love you and keep Bhopping
Also hope you get more views
I'd think otherwise of my voice but thx lol. It's a process but this year I'm way more focused. Way more then montages on the way
@@erk.365 I’m excited to see them
Least bromantic tf2 player
The long awaited guide
12:30 I've encountered the same things it's because of the train rails. If you go down fast enough and try to bhop on them u can edgebug for a split second and negate fall damage. It's really weird .
I suspected it was something like that but I said hey why not mention it
1:24 me with 10fps:alright ama head out
This actually helped me, thanks mate!
12:25 this was 2 years ago so I'm sure you know by now, but that was a crouch bug, when you uncrouch and jump at perfect timing, and lucky server ticks, you can cancel fall damage.
I can ****** bhop just when I do it with the rocket jumper, I cant hear ANYTHING and I still don't get the crit.
if you have a bit of downward speed bhopping off of a downward ramp can shoot you forward too which is pretty great
negating fall damage from a bhop is called a jumpbug
very similar to a bhop but its when your uncrouch at the same time as bhoping u womt take fall damage. it only works at certain heights though
what about edgebugging brothar?!
@@mahuba2553 thats a whole differnt tech
A and S for strafe keys bro what happened
S is to move right for him
@@trenchymemes worst binds Ive seen
His WASD is ASDF😂
got my first double bhop yesterday as a base jumper trolldier, feels good
for jetpack pyro bhopping, you can still stomp on people even though your not midair
Very good and comprehensive video, good work
the spy in the second clip just t-posed
that first guy was named thorn the dragon which is a reference
to the series "inheritance cycle" in book murtagh thorn is one of the main characters and is
also a dragon
At 12:26 you did a jumpbug not a bhop. They are simillar but jumpbugs are way harder to time since you have to jump in your uncrouch animation as your landing (tick perfect almost)
how can bunnyhopping be frame perfect if all source games are tick based?
Your editing and quality is incredible. Remember me when you are famous!
damn i was wondering why i couldnt hit any bhops in walkway, as soon as i used the net_fakelag command i started chaining like 5 bhops like it was nothing, guess i have the talent
btw, if you have mantreads on, they continue making the falling noise if you do your bhops correct
7:00 im pretty sure most people dont use s and a as the right and left
10:50, its because those servers have 0 ping. Market gardener bhops rely on you having some ping
0:16 was that spy t posing
the chad crash bandicoot ost enjoyer
i can bhop without doing the rokcte jump but bwhen i do i cant do it off the ground
like cansomebody explain why this doesnt work
As a portal 2 speedrunner I can confirm this is how you bhop in source games
When you don't take fall damage, it's probably because you've edge bugged off a pebble or some tiny little bit of the map that otherwise has no effect on the game but on most maps, there are some little oddities like that. You don't have to bhop to utilise them.
The fall damage thing is quite rare but really good to know
did a bhop recently
loved it
Thx master i learned it
As a total 100% deff pro at bhopping this video makes me happy
Dude, you make me want to play Crash Bandicoot now!
you forgot to mention that you can kinda keep the charge speed on demoknight if you buffer a jump before the charge ends and then keep bhopping
There is no extra speed from what I understand. The extra speed reading is coming from the new vertical speed (whether upwards at the start or downwards by the end of the jump) counting into your total speed. Before you had 320 horizontal. Now you have 320 horizontal + ~70. This may be wrong though if your speed reader is tracking horizontal speed only but I doubt it since it clearly goes much higher when you fall off a cliff, indicating that’s it’s tracking vert+horizontal.
So, I have a pretty bad pc, 90 FPS max, and 20-300 ping every now and then. And I get people telling me its impossible to bhop with only the spacebar, "It needs multiple spacebar inputs in a second". Though I bhop with only the spacebar, so is this just misinformation or what
@Sardarge_ it is you can bhop with just space bar. FPS doesn't matter much but helps a lot. All it comes down to though is timing and practicing. There is no perfect method
Very helpful but too many engineers in Hightower to try this out 😂
This makes fat scout more meta
My fingers are saying: HOL´ UP
how can you tell at 11:50 that you are hitting the bhops right or not? is there a sure way to tell without having the MG out to test if you get crit or not?
also at 12:41, can you actually get an MG crit if you can't hear the woosh sound from the Rocket Jumper?
Thanks for the help
12:36 could be an edge bug on the rail
for some reason when i bhop i keep my momentum and i can gain speed but i dont keep my rocket jump with market gardener
12:31 i thought you did an accidental manual jumpbug but after watching closer u can see how you slid a bit, its probably a micro edgebug or slopebug right before the bhop, still funny regardless
10:39 can you fix this by setting your server to "sv_lan 0"?
Erk upload! POOOOOOOOOOOOOG!
Why is the s your right key
"good ping helps too"
me: darn
The fall damage negation might be caused by something called a jump bug
does moving fowwrowrd without W mean that im doing the b hop correctly
I think Ill just stick to the rocket jumper Cuz Im gonna break my keys before I even begin to get the hang of bhopping
i know this isn't as related but what's the program you used to show what buttons you are pressing on your keyboard at 6:30
I’m assuming that you don’t have a QWERTY keyboard because F is not bound to forward normally
2:21 i did it once as spy. Half luck half skill. sucks i didnt screenshot it becoase i got killed in a second
Is it a glitch on your screen keyboard emulation or you really use S as walk right and D as walk back?
+F as atack and Shift also does something. What a strange thing. Are your fingers broken?
my binds would scare you and yes probably
@@erk.365this confused me alot as now I don't understand what inputs you did in the vid
When bhopping, should I hold w or just tap it or only press a and s?
You only want to use it to walk forwards to start the bhop(samething with rocket jumping). When your bhopping you dont want to use W to move or itll mess up the directionin which your tryna go, so only use your strafe keys (left and right) when you get a running start and that will keep your speed as you jump. progression 2 in the video is how'd you do it
"F" is your walk foward key?
this is a good tutorial but your binds make it kinda hard to follow like why is S your right key and D your backwards key and F is forward??
why it's better to use an other bind for jumping ?
bro why is ur d key backwards and ur s key right what
I'm a fan of exclusively Crash Bandicoot music
5:39 how unbind?
what on gods green earth are these bindings. ASDF INSTEAD OF ADSW?????? WHAT ARE YOU PLAYING??? FNF?????
16 year old game using default wasd 🤢
Changing to ASDF 😎
Seriously I agree with parent comment tho wtf.
What are you movement keybinds if you don’t understand what I mean I mean how do you move right, left, forward and etc.
Great guide! Have you ever heard of this tf2 mod called open fortress? If not you should definitely check it out cuz I feel like you would dominate every server you’re in since bhopping is an actual movement mechanic in the game and you’re basically a bhopping god in tf2
Any thoughts on this?:
I've experimented with macros/loops which spam the jump action, and it looks to me that no matter how perfect is the synch between jumping and being close to the ground, there is still a big chance the server won't register your bhop, and this chance appears to change both between different servers and in a same server over time.
there is a server side "WAIT" command that stops you spamming inputs with commands servers with this command disabled will have no problem with a loop/macro but any valve server will be inconsistent af, this will be because you may get lucky and your jump will perfectly sync up with the wait timer, other times it will not. This is why it will appear to change in the same server over time and different servers. You are infinitely better off learning the actual bhop technique. Hope this helped.
@@DetectiveDeuche thanks! that was really helpful, but I forgot to say that I also have experimented doing the same thing but using mwheeldown too (I always bhop using mwheel, the macros where just an experiment) and the same phenomenon still occurs, I can also say that macros aren't of much help, they are similar to using the wheel in terms of bhop success. For example in private lan servers both using macros and mwheeldown I get the same average consecutive bhops (like 8 consecutive bhops average) In the end macros might be useful for people who suck at using the mwheel, but as you get better using macros isn't really an advantage and it might even be worse because it makes it harder to control when and how to bhop , so I doubt pros use macros
@@Prisoner for sure, I also noticed if you do more then about 8 inputs a second the game cant handle it and will just sease registering jump inputs all together so I find mwheel useful but if you go too fast it'll basically be worse than just jumping with space
@@DetectiveDeuche wow that's really interesting, how did u find out how many inputs the game handles per second?
@@Prisoner I dont know the exact number for certain but it seems to be around 8-10 inputs before the server gives up, you can try yourself by going on a server with sv_cheats 1 and doing "host_timescale 0.5" or "host_timescale 0.25" and see how many jump inputs you can manage while bhopping before the game stops you being able to jump for me the sweetspot seems to be 9 inputs or less provided my timing was good always seems to work but more than that is where it starts to cut out, 15 and above was almost always too many but I have no idea where the hard limit is.
epic video
How to sr pos ang and vel
Two questions, does ist make a difference when having other configs. For example different interp settings. And the other question is if it is weird that i have the Feeling that on different servers there is a slightly different timing needed, up to the point, that it doesnt even work.
oh it took me a while to realize how your keystrokes worked
F is forward
D is down (or back)
A is left
S is right
I have a top time on tempus on the jump_yump bonus and I am still so bad at actually applying that skill lol
is it possible to learn it only with normal jump space bar ?
my mouse wheels r broken so what can I bind?
bunnyhop working when we pressing ctrl?
do you use your middle finger to jump or do u just switch between m1 and mwheeldown with pointer finger?
whats your cl_interp
13:40 we NEED a tutorial for this, atleast i do, i dont even know the name
It's called sync jumping. There are a lot of tutorials out there already on it!
@@erk.365 better get learning it so i can flex on my friends
Why do you have right bound to s? Kinda weird, you’re the expert tho lol
I got so good at bhopping that i got banned from skial
Im suffering from succes
Based, skial stinks.
What bothers me is I see people still do it to this day, so I know it's still possible, but I've been trying ever since I first learned how to rocket jump years ago and have not been able to trigger it once. I'm of the belief that there's some secret method that just nobody's talking about, handed out under the table among soldier mains.
bros reading ts like a school presentation
Can you market garden while bhopping with crouch jump like you do but only when using crouch jump
You can crouch while in the air but you can't hold crouch as the same time your trying to jump it won't work. As your in the air you can do anything movement wise but you do a regular jump to bhop and in the air you can crouch