@@ethandavis7310 and it's literally every primary weapon. Unlike soldier or heavy where we have health restore items like sandvich or that seashell horn thing (I don't remember the spelling so I'm calling it that. Conchoer?).
You shall not defame the true best secondary, The Righteous Bison. The Bison is the best weapon in the game, you can not convince me otherwise. All hail Lord Bison.
The Holy Cow is the true unexpected secondary weapon , and has the power to bring respect from the ennemie team , as well as mentally forcing some of them to only use the worst soldier's secondary possible.
Note for the reserve shooter It is quite useful at discouraging enemy soldiers and demos from blast jumping around a lot making it handy to soften up targets that are approaching you so you have more than enough ammo on your other weapon to finish them off once they land
@BigManStrange unironically Shotgun heavy (they use both machine gun and shotgun, not to be mistaken as Fat Scout) is like the final form of a heavy main. Not to say that a Food item is good, but if you know the map or have a good med... Then Shotgun heavy is a force beyond recognition.
10:25 this has to be the best clip supporting your point about the element of suprise when using the shotgun. The Pyro was like "hehehe I fucking got you now, what're you gonna do shoot m- OH SHIT"
Finally, someone who gets it I always run shotgun secondaries on soldier usually it’s between panic attack or stock but I think stock always comes out on top
I was actually playing doom 3 when this video was in the background, so i was pretty surprised about the intro music. But of was fitting for the action tho...
The gunboats are widely used "just because", while on certain maps they're rather useless. The shotgun is amazing cause it's simply reliable. Sometimes though the shotgun isn't the best idea, for instance, a roamer or anyone using the beggar's bazooka it'll just be suicide. Adaptibility is key. Great video btw! very underrated.
gunboats are always useful, even on maps like dustbowl you can just like, make it impossible for players to space you and punish who are overextended faster
the gunboats is soldier’s best secondary without a doubt unless you dont know how to rocket jump. utilizing soldier’s best aspect by allowing yourself to rocket jump around x4 more than with shotty makes it op
Also, shotgun gives you some valuable breakpoints, particularly with Engineer's buildings. I'll combo Engi buildings all the time, waiting for my rocket to land on it before blasting it with my 12-gauge. Very effective against mini sentries or buildings getting tanked.
That intro clip with the kritzkrieg, that's the reason I went back to the shotgun from using banners. Swapping from conchBox to a basically stock loadout allowed me and my brother to carry a whole attack/defend match. From there I started mixing it up a little with different primaries when playing solo; the Black Box returned to prominence as my go-to but I've also rekindled my love for the Cow Mangler.
i sometimes run rocket jumper with the panic attack and it's a lotta fun since it's the easiest way to close the distance with a shotgun. the downside is losing to sentries harder than scout but it's a small price to pay to use rocket jumper without epic failing at market gardens
Love your vid. It gives so much 2012 tf2 animation which i adore, and all references (a specially Broly one). And are good but rough quality. It's just the best
I find it funny almost no soldiers use a shotgun despite it being a really good secondary then get mad when their reflectable projectiles get reflected when they have a solution which works better against a pyro than faster rockets
This video is genuinly amazing i was so absolutely blown away that your not a bigger channel just everything had so much talent put into it to the animation to the jokes some of these jokes are so crazy good. Good stuff man
When starting out on TF2, I used to main Soldier, and I never ever used the gunboats; I refused, and I always used the panic attack as my secondary because I just didn’t see the need for the gunboats
WRONG!!! we all know that the best secondary weapon for soldier is the righteous bison, is that so that valve had to nerf it. now seriosly speaking the shotgun offers to soldier a lot of versatility, not in movement but in combat. like for example, one of the most common weaknesses of soldier, is when someone takes the highground even a slight highground, characters like scout likes to do that, and it takes away the efectiveness of the rocket laucher when there's not ground or flat surfaces to shot at. so that's when the shotgun comes in handly. of course this can be covered if someone is really good at predicting with the rocket laucher what the enemy's movement will be... but it's really hard to do for newcomers. it's like trying to get an airshot.
Hey! I really like your video explain how the shotgun is a great secondary in your video! I really like the long intro at the start. It is really impressive! You also go into great points on how to use the shotgun on some classes, which is really good and it taught me something too. Overall, keep up the great animations and the TF2 videos!
I started using the shotgun 2 days ago, I saw that it worked pretty well against most classes and it changes the gameplay a bit for the Soldier who is only used to shooting missiles, I have 200 hours of play and I honestly love the game, I don't play much with the Soldier, but since I discovered that I really like playing with him, and today RUclips recommended this video to me. New subscriber
Great video! Even with my 6th grade English I understood everything thanks to the pictures. You are filled with determination to use the shotgun. Translated with the help of a translator.
Sleeping on the shotgun vs good scout matchup, if they have good enough movement to dodge all of your rockets you better pull out the shotty. Do it right after your first rocket and you’ll catch them off guard
The same case is with pistol for Emgineer. Because of how popular wrangler is even on offensive engineer peoples simply dont expect you to pull off pistol and gun them down good ol' texan way
My play style with soldier is most offensive, and I'm usually left with one enemy left with no rockets loaded. The shotgun is just more useful to me instead of the banners and gunboats. Especially with the reserve shooter and panic attack.
haha this video is insane because ive been wanting to make a video about why the shotgun is the worst soldier secondary (and then explaining how to make it work in a 6s setting) for ages now. i think seeing this video has motivated me to make it sooner rather than later. (not out of spite or hate or anything, the shotgun is actually one of my favourite weapons in the whole game lol)
I know that your and mine opinion can be different, and it's OK, but I wanna say that I personally don't agree with you and don't think that shotgun is the best secondary, imo the best secondary is the bison.
Problem is, when I don’t feel like using gunboats, it’s really hard not to use banners. Like, Batallions pop is “win me a game” button sometimes, and 20 additional HP helps hilariously often.
The battalions is really good. I recommend it for when either team composition is not the best. If thats not the case and your team can do fine on their own, you can use the shotgun.
I tend to run a weird trollier build with the jumper, stock shotgun and escape plan. its more reliable than you would expect and im not even good at soldier
Babies use the conchbox combo Boys use the Shotgun MEN use the Reserve Shooter Gladiators use the Battalions' Backup Swansons use the Bison with the Rocket Jumper
Personally im reserve shooter gang. It's almost like a minigame or quicktime event where i gotta shoot my rocket to bounce them up and instead of the obvious shoot another rocket i get the shotgun airshot, so its a double QTE. I love the higher potential damage output, plus it shows me how much more i really need to improve. also reserve shooter ends up being even more unexpected than stock. also also the quicker swap speed makes dealing with pyros that look like they really want to airblast that much more easier to deal with. they get so caught up in weapon switching to counter my weapons that i can get 2 good rockets in and kill them
What I can give props to the reserve shooter for is its uniqueness. But it’s only primary use is for comboing, and I can just do that with the stock shotgun at the not so bad downside of losing mini crits
The shotgun on soldier is really good, mainly if you want to play more independently, it allows you to have better uptime in fights which 4 rockets might not be enough. Although for frontlining the banners are so much better, since sometimes you gotta be the anchor for your team to be able to make a play. If your team is very self suficient then the shotgun is just an upgrade to you, if they aren't it starts feeling a bit useless. Personally, I run a Liberty Launcher + Panick attack combo, which can deal with most classes in a decent way, it's nowhere close to be meta but it's fun, and it shows how strong the shotgun is when it covers the weaknesses of the Liberty Launcher really well and whenever that feels like it's not working I just switch to stock with one of the banners, the gunboats always seemed really overrated to me when there is teleporters or medics in your team, only exceptions are if you are playing with the Beggar's Bazooka or there's no support classes in your team
i love the shotgun so much. another soldier once shit talked me for pulling out the shotgun and i have no shame because it is one of my fav weapons in the entire game.
I feel like the reserve shooter is slightly better at most situation you mentioned. And it is great at thoose overconfident soldiers that always jump at your face
If my current like... 100 hourse or more in Pyro, i see the intro a little bit unrealistic, the Pyro would probably fail the timing of the airblast The rest is spot on i guess
as someone who heartily believes that there is no general purpose secondary even close to the gunboats (not even bats, fight me) i can definitely sympathise with your point of view here, especially what you said about the shotgun being situationally better on certain maps. i like to call these maps “waddle maps” because there’s no real reason to rocket jump most of the time. think steel, dustbowl. in these maps i see no reason to use the gunboats, and because teamwork is a lie i think the shotguns carve a very strong niche there
I also like the shogun on pyro rather than some flare gun. If you are 1v1'ing another pyro you can just win the fight by grabbing the shotgun and playing it smart.
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This comment has changed my perspective on life. You really influenced me heavily because of this one comment. I will never forget you.
@@BigManStrange cool 😎
@@Red_human-777best philosophy moment
no.
@@thehost6237 balls
My methodology is simple: I use the shotgun, and play like I have the gunboats. Health is just a social construct.
Chad.
Absolutely based
"oh, soldier just had a heart attacks"
You cant lose any health if you don't die and you won't die if all of the bad guys are dead I.E low health is a myth
"Health is just a social construct."
Based 🗿
This is soldiers version of “spy has a gun”
And Pyro/Heavy version of "spy has a gun"
Only difference is if you change said weapon with something else, you have no shotgun (Battalion's Backup etc.)
It's not tho. Spy's gun is useful.
@@ethandavis7310 and it's literally every primary weapon. Unlike soldier or heavy where we have health restore items like sandvich or that seashell horn thing (I don't remember the spelling so I'm calling it that. Conchoer?).
@@AfterthymeGamingThe Concheror.
You shall not defame the true best secondary, The Righteous Bison. The Bison is the best weapon in the game, you can not convince me otherwise. All hail Lord Bison.
@@coughfee1416 The Bison doesnt exist what are you talking about
@@BigManStrangeTRAITOR
@@BigManStrangeHERESY
You misspelled Pomson
The Holy Cow is the true unexpected secondary weapon , and has the power to bring respect from the ennemie team , as well as mentally forcing some of them to only use the worst soldier's secondary possible.
Real men change to their melee
Until they start pressing S on their keyboard. I really hate it
Real men do the killbind
Real men melee with the escape plan
@@Menamphetaminethe real mann plan
He got shotgun and gunboats from gabe himself.
Look like someone don’t know what is the real feeling of soldier. But it ok :)
Just crit hacking and lag switching
Note for the reserve shooter
It is quite useful at discouraging enemy soldiers and demos from blast jumping around a lot making it handy to soften up targets that are approaching you so you have more than enough ammo on your other weapon to finish them off once they land
It's the year 2024, everyone finally learns to value the sole weapon the game is entirety balanced around.
Switching to your secondary is always faster than reloading
You'll not persuade me to give up my shootey iron boots that make me go zoom
Give into our lord and savior the shotgun
@BigManStrange unironically Shotgun heavy (they use both machine gun and shotgun, not to be mistaken as Fat Scout) is like the final form of a heavy main. Not to say that a Food item is good, but if you know the map or have a good med... Then Shotgun heavy is a force beyond recognition.
@@nm3k511 i can confirm this after i got a 16 kill streak as heavy that I wouldnt be able to get if i didnt have a shotgun
10:25 this has to be the best clip supporting your point about the element of suprise when using the shotgun. The Pyro was like "hehehe I fucking got you now, what're you gonna do shoot m- OH SHIT"
“I HAVE A SHOTGUN” - lazypurple
You can’t expect me to play the quake inspired class and not run a shotgun. It’s illegal.
Finally, someone who gets it I always run shotgun secondaries on soldier usually it’s between panic attack or stock but I think stock always comes out on top
the reserve shooter also
the first soldier in sfm is waring the gunboats so thre for he canot have the shotgun equipped
2:17
@@tunchar_45 STOP REMINDING ME OF MY MISTAKES RAGAAHHHAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAGGXNXJDUBDIXNDDHDHS
I was actually playing doom 3 when this video was in the background, so i was pretty surprised about the intro music. But of was fitting for the action tho...
The gunboats are widely used "just because", while on certain maps they're rather useless. The shotgun is amazing cause it's simply reliable. Sometimes though the shotgun isn't the best idea, for instance, a roamer or anyone using the beggar's bazooka it'll just be suicide. Adaptibility is key. Great video btw! very underrated.
Most people don't rocket jump enough for boots to matter, so you may want to equip a banner instead. Or just a reliable shotgun.
gunboats are always useful, even on maps like dustbowl you can just like, make it impossible for players to space you and punish who are overextended faster
the gunboats is soldier’s best secondary without a doubt unless you dont know how to rocket jump. utilizing soldier’s best aspect by allowing yourself to rocket jump around x4 more than with shotty makes it op
The whole reason soldier is so fun is the mobility from rocket jumps, and gunboats let me rocket jump more.
7:42 it also deals slightly more damage than the scout scattergun
you got it backwards
Also, shotgun gives you some valuable breakpoints, particularly with Engineer's buildings. I'll combo Engi buildings all the time, waiting for my rocket to land on it before blasting it with my 12-gauge. Very effective against mini sentries or buildings getting tanked.
the use of a soundsmith video it's just perfect, really good detail there
There's a reason my first unusual warpaint is applied to the shotgun, 4 class use, is very reliable, and is just awesome
"I got balls of steel"
I love the shotgun. Having a fallback weapon and one that a pyro can't simply counter is really good.
the intro is an accurate depiction of the power of the shotgun
Least powerful moment using the shotgun
Now I NEED A RUclipsr Dedicated To Supporting Help About Heavy Like Mr "Spy Has A Gun!"
Because without it he wouldn't be called the rocketlaunchershotgunguy obviously
That intro clip with the kritzkrieg, that's the reason I went back to the shotgun from using banners. Swapping from conchBox to a basically stock loadout allowed me and my brother to carry a whole attack/defend match. From there I started mixing it up a little with different primaries when playing solo; the Black Box returned to prominence as my go-to but I've also rekindled my love for the Cow Mangler.
Won’t lie the xenoverse music caught me by surprise. 😂
I did not expect this video to be so nicely made. the Gmod animations were solid compared to other videos of this nature.
i sometimes run rocket jumper with the panic attack and it's a lotta fun since it's the easiest way to close the distance with a shotgun. the downside is losing to sentries harder than scout but it's a small price to pay to use rocket jumper without epic failing at market gardens
you will never get me to unequip the gunboats and gardener, a true mann always keeps an extra rocket in the clip for a last second 195
2:53 damn the soldier has both the gunboats and shotgun so unreal!
Finally
*Pulls out dragons fury shotgun loadout*
A worthy opponent. OUR BATTLE WILL BE LEGENDARY!!!
Hey uhh as another dragons fury pyro i must inquire why
this might be the best intro ive ever seen
Hear me out tho: "this.. was a recreation of a competitive TF2 clip"
@@Hack--rz1io "tf2 haves competitive?"
yes shotgun is better then reserve shooter, panic attack and bison. congrats man
Dude, how aren’t you at at least 1000 subscribers yet? This is really an high quality video!
Thank you for converting me to the all mighty shotgun it suits the black box extremely well
Went on a 15 kill streak on 2forr with the panic attack
So we got dragon ball xenoverse muisc and pizza tower music. The man has taste, ill give him that.
you made a movie for a intro, lit
Some of that music is from Dragon Ball Xenoverse 2, I swear. Never expected to hear them in a Team Fortress 2 video.
Love your vid. It gives so much 2012 tf2 animation which i adore, and all references (a specially Broly one). And are good but rough quality. It's just the best
I find it funny almost no soldiers use a shotgun despite it being a really good secondary then get mad when their reflectable projectiles get reflected when they have a solution which works better against a pyro than faster rockets
love how he uses music from xenoverse 2 casually
It's 2024, soldiers and snipers are only now figuring out how to use stock secondaries.
God I love tf2
Good video man, can't wait to see where you go from here :D
Medic's critical crossbow bolt hit is fucking best.
This video is genuinly amazing i was so absolutely blown away that your not a bigger channel just everything had so much talent put into it to the animation to the jokes some of these jokes are so crazy good. Good stuff man
1:21 whats this laughing sound effect called btw ?
Couldn’t tell you. But what I looked up was “kitty0706 sound effects” and downloaded a folder including this
@@BigManStrange thx
Love your soldier Loadout dude it’s very nice 😊
When starting out on TF2, I used to main Soldier, and I never ever used the gunboats; I refused, and I always used the panic attack as my secondary because I just didn’t see the need for the gunboats
great video, your editing skills are fantastic!
WRONG!!!
we all know that the best secondary weapon for soldier is the righteous bison, is that so that valve had to nerf it.
now seriosly speaking the shotgun offers to soldier a lot of versatility, not in movement but in combat.
like for example, one of the most common weaknesses of soldier, is when someone takes the highground even a slight highground, characters like scout likes to do that, and it takes away the efectiveness of the rocket laucher when there's not ground or flat surfaces to shot at. so that's when the shotgun comes in handly.
of course this can be covered if someone is really good at predicting with the rocket laucher what the enemy's movement will be... but it's really hard to do for newcomers. it's like trying to get an airshot.
¨This is my BOOMSTICK¨
Finally, Soldier has a shotgun!
And Spy has a gun!
And Heavy has a shotgun!
And Pyro has a shotgun!
And I HAVE A SHOTGUN!
Bruh I was literally JUST listening to doom 3 theme right before I watched this video lmao
Bringing up sterotypes when you mention the reserve shooter is priceless lmaooo (And very very f'n accurate.)
Hey! I really like your video explain how the shotgun is a great secondary in your video! I really like the long intro at the start. It is really impressive! You also go into great points on how to use the shotgun on some classes, which is really good and it taught me something too. Overall, keep up the great animations and the TF2 videos!
brother i though i was here for a commentary about the shotgun not a full on movie lmao
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I only recently started using the shotgun, feels like many people don't even expect me to have it 😂
Dude this video is actually friggin amazing.
I started using the shotgun 2 days ago, I saw that it worked pretty well against most classes and it changes the gameplay a bit for the Soldier who is only used to shooting missiles, I have 200 hours of play and I honestly love the game, I don't play much with the Soldier, but since I discovered that I really like playing with him, and today RUclips recommended this video to me.
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Great video! Even with my 6th grade English I understood everything thanks to the pictures. You are filled with determination to use the shotgun. Translated with the help of a translator.
the shotgun turns a typically even or even unfavourable matchup against a competent scout into an easy 1v1
Always crazy when someone punches waaay above their sub count in terms of quality like this.
Also you are spitting facts about the shotgun being good for soldier as for myself I use the shotgun because it’s really good for meat shots
Sleeping on the shotgun vs good scout matchup, if they have good enough movement to dodge all of your rockets you better pull out the shotty. Do it right after your first rocket and you’ll catch them off guard
Nice work!
I actually find myself using the shotgun because how often i rocket jump. Basically I enter fights with half my clip.
The same case is with pistol for Emgineer.
Because of how popular wrangler is even on offensive engineer peoples simply dont expect you to pull off pistol and gun them down good ol' texan way
I think airstrike shotgun soldier is slept on ngl. It’s my favorite way to play soldier and I totally recommend it.
It's extremely broken in mvm in casual it's fine but at least It's not the Liberty launcher
Mge balls
That's because The Shotgun shoots 10 bullets opposed to The Gunboats' 0 bullets.
My play style with soldier is most offensive, and I'm usually left with one enemy left with no rockets loaded. The shotgun is just more useful to me instead of the banners and gunboats. Especially with the reserve shooter and panic attack.
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Good editing-
Great animation-
Entertaining-
Underrated-
*+ 1 sub*
me personally, i like running shotgun when im not only feeling like it, but also have a medic with a brain!
haha this video is insane because ive been wanting to make a video about why the shotgun is the worst soldier secondary (and then explaining how to make it work in a 6s setting) for ages now. i think seeing this video has motivated me to make it sooner rather than later.
(not out of spite or hate or anything, the shotgun is actually one of my favourite weapons in the whole game lol)
I know that your and mine opinion can be different, and it's OK, but I wanna say that I personally don't agree with you and don't think that shotgun is the best secondary, imo the best secondary is the bison.
What future videos do you plan to make?
Problem is, when I don’t feel like using gunboats, it’s really hard not to use banners. Like, Batallions pop is “win me a game” button sometimes, and 20 additional HP helps hilariously often.
The battalions is really good. I recommend it for when either team composition is not the best. If thats not the case and your team can do fine on their own, you can use the shotgun.
Cool.
gives rise of the epic scout vibe
I tend to run a weird trollier build with the jumper, stock shotgun and escape plan. its more reliable than you would expect and im not even good at soldier
Babies use the conchbox combo
Boys use the Shotgun
MEN use the Reserve Shooter
Gladiators use the Battalions' Backup
Swansons use the Bison with the Rocket Jumper
Personally im reserve shooter gang. It's almost like a minigame or quicktime event where i gotta shoot my rocket to bounce them up and instead of the obvious shoot another rocket i get the shotgun airshot, so its a double QTE. I love the higher potential damage output, plus it shows me how much more i really need to improve. also reserve shooter ends up being even more unexpected than stock. also also the quicker swap speed makes dealing with pyros that look like they really want to airblast that much more easier to deal with. they get so caught up in weapon switching to counter my weapons that i can get 2 good rockets in and kill them
What I can give props to the reserve shooter for is its uniqueness. But it’s only primary use is for comboing, and I can just do that with the stock shotgun at the not so bad downside of losing mini crits
GARDEN WARFARE MUSIC! also amazing video!
I like to use the Liberty Launcher with shotguns because reasons
The shotgun on soldier is really good, mainly if you want to play more independently, it allows you to have better uptime in fights which 4 rockets might not be enough.
Although for frontlining the banners are so much better, since sometimes you gotta be the anchor for your team to be able to make a play. If your team is very self suficient then the shotgun is just an upgrade to you, if they aren't it starts feeling a bit useless.
Personally, I run a Liberty Launcher + Panick attack combo, which can deal with most classes in a decent way, it's nowhere close to be meta but it's fun, and it shows how strong the shotgun is when it covers the weaknesses of the Liberty Launcher really well and whenever that feels like it's not working I just switch to stock with one of the banners, the gunboats always seemed really overrated to me when there is teleporters or medics in your team, only exceptions are if you are playing with the Beggar's Bazooka or there's no support classes in your team
i love the shotgun so much. another soldier once shit talked me for pulling out the shotgun and i have no shame because it is one of my fav weapons in the entire game.
I feel like the reserve shooter is slightly better at most situation you mentioned.
And it is great at thoose overconfident soldiers that always jump at your face
If my current like... 100 hourse or more in Pyro, i see the intro a little bit unrealistic, the Pyro would probably fail the timing of the airblast
The rest is spot on i guess
I think heavy shouldve gone bald in the intro
Nice SFM!
as someone who heartily believes that there is no general purpose secondary even close to the gunboats (not even bats, fight me) i can definitely sympathise with your point of view here, especially what you said about the shotgun being situationally better on certain maps. i like to call these maps “waddle maps” because there’s no real reason to rocket jump most of the time. think steel, dustbowl. in these maps i see no reason to use the gunboats, and because teamwork is a lie i think the shotguns carve a very strong niche there
Kitty0607 smiles upon thee
RIP shotgun in competitive. Even pockets run gunboats 😢
He used the doom 3 menu music
I also like the shogun on pyro rather than some flare gun. If you are 1v1'ing another pyro you can just win the fight by grabbing the shotgun and playing it smart.