#1 Let's Play Civ 6 Mali - Mansa Musa - Civilization VI Gathering Storm Preview

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  • Hey Spuddies, PotatoMcWhiskey and Firaxis have been kind enough to provide me with pre-release and preview access to the upcoming expansion to Civilization VI: Gathering Storm. I hope you guys enjoy this playthrough as Mali!
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Комментарии • 237

  • @PotatoMcWhiskey
    @PotatoMcWhiskey  5 лет назад +134

    Game sounds went weird in this one, I'll fix it in the next

    • @vicratlhead2228
      @vicratlhead2228 5 лет назад +3

      Desert Venice without Venice's shitty downside. They look so fun.

    • @Aerion_Dirceus
      @Aerion_Dirceus 5 лет назад +2

      I heard absolutely no game sounds. All I head was you talking.

    • @datrandom134
      @datrandom134 5 лет назад

      This is deity right?

    • @mcp0924
      @mcp0924 5 лет назад

      @@Aerion_Dirceus I think there is an embargo on game sounds...not sure tho. Early let's play rules are weird.

    • @mcp0924
      @mcp0924 5 лет назад +1

      @@datrandom134 This is Immortal, one step below deity

  • @kria008
    @kria008 5 лет назад +138

    if he waited a moment with placing the third holy site, he couldve placed it on the + 6 tile below and would have also a suguba with 2 holy sites next to it... anyway, I feel like, you can do simillar thing as with hansas as frederick, where you make a triangle of cities, put 3 sugubas together and 3 holy sites each to be adjacent to 2 sugubas... gold power

    • @thelordkragan1888
      @thelordkragan1888 5 лет назад +3

      As well as faith if you picked desert folklore. Because who needs production when your faithful and treasury can build up entire armies per turn?

    • @kria008
      @kria008 5 лет назад

      @@thelordkragan1888 I dont know honestly, i never liked investimg in faith all too much, since its pretty much useless, if you dont buy army with it... I will probably not be a mali guy, I am the guy who builds huge industrials as germany instead

    • @thelordkragan1888
      @thelordkragan1888 5 лет назад +5

      @@kria008 You will also be able to purchase districts with moksha now.

    • @kria008
      @kria008 5 лет назад +1

      @@thelordkragan1888 Thats true, they added some value... I was really happy to see reyna in rise and fall, cause I always had a ton of money and couldnt improve my low prod cities, moksha is finally even a choice for me :D

    • @redpandahit122
      @redpandahit122 3 года назад

      Or he could have put it on the tile above the one he placed it on

  • @thelaurakyna
    @thelaurakyna 5 лет назад +42

    You're justifying the reload and there i am reloading autosaves constantly to try and save my one scout from barbs...

  • @victoriouse
    @victoriouse 5 лет назад +32

    I just realized, you have become my #1 choice of youtubers who play Civ. Loving your work Potato!

    • @pranavsingh6395
      @pranavsingh6395 2 года назад

      Dat potato in the end gets me everytime 😂

  • @infamoussky22
    @infamoussky22 5 лет назад +158

    This is a comment to please the RUclips algorithm.

    • @bnuuyes
      @bnuuyes 5 лет назад +2

      All hail the mighty Algorithm!

    • @Shain3333
      @Shain3333 5 лет назад +1

      RUclips has become bananas

  • @sirius1025
    @sirius1025 5 лет назад +13

    Holy cow that’s an amazing start. I’m really enjoying your gathering storm gameplay and analysis keep up the good work!

  • @jrm78
    @jrm78 5 лет назад +1

    I'm just drooling over the gold generation possibilities of a city in middle of that desert to the north. Love your videos, Potato!

  • @Spoot1RHGL
    @Spoot1RHGL 5 лет назад +2

    Your speech has improved a lot! I am happy to see all the hard work payed off, good job!

  • @trevonhood297
    @trevonhood297 5 лет назад +4

    Don't chop too much, with the decreased production from mines, lumber mills are going to be your friend, especially on plains

  • @nicolaslillo1665
    @nicolaslillo1665 5 лет назад +90

    Will you do an analysis for Eleanor of Aquitaine?

    • @augustvonmackensen7273
      @augustvonmackensen7273 5 лет назад +3

      That's what iv been waiting for.

    • @TeamWolfmountain
      @TeamWolfmountain 5 лет назад

      She is a very difficult leader

    • @PotatoMcWhiskey
      @PotatoMcWhiskey  5 лет назад +15

      No.
      Her ability is incredibly simple

    • @TeamWolfmountain
      @TeamWolfmountain 5 лет назад

      @@PotatoMcWhiskey it is but what i meant she is super strategic because no other civs near and she is basically is useless

    • @TheSjuris
      @TheSjuris 5 лет назад

      TheAmazingRatedR or if Dido is right next to her.

  • @refinedbrass
    @refinedbrass 5 лет назад +3

    love the content man been devouring it like a vermicious knid scrams a oompa-loompa

  • @Domkhxiii
    @Domkhxiii 5 лет назад +8

    As bad as Venice was in civ 5, my favourite strat was money income so I’m looking forward to this :)

  • @briljin
    @briljin 5 лет назад +1

    This is one of the new civs that interest me. With their gold and faith bonuses, you could have two very easy sources of buying an army as needed.

  • @zzSHOTGUNzz
    @zzSHOTGUNzz 5 лет назад +1

    It's very interesting to see an economy oriented game, it gives some flavor and deviation from the usual playstyle/formula. I like this! Keep changing it up Potato :)

  • @isaacjohnston8831
    @isaacjohnston8831 5 лет назад +28

    4.1 faith on turn 2. Move aside Indonesia, Mali gets first pick at pantheon now

    • @TwistedNegative
      @TwistedNegative 5 лет назад +3

      Too bad Earth Goddess (+1 faith on tiles with charming or better appeal) wouldn't work well with Mali's Mine addiction. All the other Pantheons are relatively easier to get.

    • @isaacjohnston8831
      @isaacjohnston8831 5 лет назад +9

      @@TwistedNegative I have found the computer pretty heavily favors deserts giving holy sites adjacency bonuses, which is very useful for musa. It's nice to know you're almost guaranteed it if you want it

    • @TrevorCaldwell
      @TrevorCaldwell 5 лет назад +5

      Luckily, Indonesia and Mali will probably choose different pantheons anyway, so it's not game-ruining if you play Gitarja and Mali is in the game.

    • @isaacjohnston8831
      @isaacjohnston8831 5 лет назад

      @@TrevorCaldwell might be a problem for her in multiplayer but I would agree vs comp this is unlikely to change much, unless both want faith for clearing.

  • @SGProductions87
    @SGProductions87 5 лет назад +1

    Towards the 3rd minute I am screaming DONT GET A BUILDER TILL YOU GOT MINING BRO

  • @4Goodman
    @4Goodman 5 лет назад +2

    Well, you are famous enough that Firaxis gave you an achievement of your own. "Po-tay-toes! - As Pachacuti, construct a Terrace Farm that is adjacent to 2 Aqueducts and 4 Mountains"
    Thanks for the new series!

    • @ann-mariemanwaring3552
      @ann-mariemanwaring3552 5 лет назад +1

      Or LotR reference...

    • @4Goodman
      @4Goodman 5 лет назад

      @@ann-mariemanwaring3552 Well, we all know but I was going for an ego boost here. :)

  • @pjmcb
    @pjmcb 5 лет назад +1

    So that second city should have been one tile to the right. Desert floodplains = flat desert tiles = +1 gold/turn. The floodplains would have allowed farms and rapid growth , allowing you to work the desert hills tiles, and the +6 gold per trade route out of that city is absolutely killer. In fact, desert floodplains are almost unfairly overpowered for Mali.

  • @jasonhw00
    @jasonhw00 5 лет назад +3

    I think you need to plan a "trade" city with the Mali, all flat desert tiles and send all you traders to it, to Min/max.

  • @grantpritchard7492
    @grantpritchard7492 5 лет назад +2

    The Eleanor Dev Livestream showed the Mali being eliminated very early by Sweden even on King level, so I must concur with your estimation of Mali's strengths/weaknesses,

  • @DesignsByTRex
    @DesignsByTRex 5 лет назад

    I'm actually glad you restarted that turn because it's just too good to pass up

  • @joshx-kb2el
    @joshx-kb2el 5 лет назад

    Your content is awesome. Best of the best out there. Can't have it enough. :)
    Thank you, and keep up the good work.

  • @adryandawnstarr477
    @adryandawnstarr477 5 лет назад +30

    I got a quick question. Why not build the holy site in the capital on one of the flat desert tiles to get some value of it? Better to save the hills for mines.

    • @S23K
      @S23K 5 лет назад +1

      I can't speak for Potato, but it did cost 25G more iirc, so maybe that's why.

    • @adryandawnstarr477
      @adryandawnstarr477 5 лет назад +2

      @@S23K between the missed gold from the potential mine and missed gold from not having flat desert tiles for the trade route, it prob would have paid for itself.

    • @dracma127
      @dracma127 5 лет назад +3

      @@adryandawnstarr477 Having a desert tile occupied by districts/wonders doesn't reduce your bonus gold from trade routes iirc.

    • @avandurion
      @avandurion 5 лет назад

      @@adryandawnstarr477 Yes it would over time, civ is a fine balance of planning for the future and rushing important things asap. in multiplayer, I often play +1faith+1gold policy card instead of +1 production just to get that pantheon asap even thou the production card is much much better. And buying tons of tiles is the number one mistake new players make, as long as you settle cities only 3 tiles apart there is no need to purchase a single tile, save the gold for units.

    • @adryandawnstarr477
      @adryandawnstarr477 5 лет назад +3

      @@dracma127 what i meant was. I think it would have been little more optimal for him to have bought one of the flat desert tiles in the capital to have but his holy site on. It would have netted him a one more faith per turn and he would have had a flat desert tile he lacked when he started his first trade route to get the extra gold. its really a small thing i admit. but it was something i noticed was weird. its a new civ.

  • @socratesdeekte6321
    @socratesdeekte6321 5 лет назад +1

    I would’ve placed the holy sit on the +6 flat desert tile. Leaving as much desert hills as possible intact for Petra mines.

  • @nicolaslillo1665
    @nicolaslillo1665 5 лет назад +25

    Hey that's immortal not emperor

  • @melwin2490
    @melwin2490 5 лет назад

    Where he puts his warrior at 13:30 would make a incredible industrial zone. Dont know if he notices it later in the video, so i'll keep watching i guess.

  • @rockerfarm6445
    @rockerfarm6445 5 лет назад

    Yes, finally there will be a full Game of the Mali :)

  • @kristjanpeil
    @kristjanpeil 4 года назад

    Played Mali on Prince Earth True Start Location (nw Africa). The game pretty much played itself - by turn 20 i had loyaltied the capitols of Egypt (central north Africa) and Arabia (Suess Africa). Turn 141, out of the blue, it was faith vic purely on missionaries.

  • @DynaCatlovesme
    @DynaCatlovesme 5 лет назад

    An expected surprise is no surprise at all!

  • @MasterLapin
    @MasterLapin 5 лет назад

    Nice Dune reference with the "Tanzerouft" Basin

  • @alluvium1465
    @alluvium1465 5 лет назад +4

    I think Moksha is a better first governor buy for Mali. You can use faith to buy your religion as fast as possible, and Moksha will spread your religion to your other cities without need of missionaries. Gun strait for his promotion to buy districts with faith, and every 5 turns move him to a new city and go on a spending spree. If you get that 25% faith bump for buying buildings as well slow building them, it is going to be stupid how much you can purchase.

    • @PotatoMcWhiskey
      @PotatoMcWhiskey  5 лет назад

      You might be right

    • @larsduim
      @larsduim 5 лет назад

      problem is that Mali doesn't get their 30% production Malus towards Districts and Wonders so it's better to slow-build those and buy buildings/units

  • @azimuthclark462
    @azimuthclark462 3 года назад

    I have been living by the whiskey philosophy of am I having fun playing the game? If restarting means I'm having more fun than I do it. I started the game on settlers, I am now playing on King and crushing. I still have some details I got to iron out and start paying attention a little more. But I am having a lot of fun playing this game especially with the culture wins

  • @LewisEWatts
    @LewisEWatts 5 лет назад

    Been lookin' forward to this series

  • @ArchfiendRai
    @ArchfiendRai 5 лет назад

    Dude this map is amazing. You had so much space.

  • @eight_count
    @eight_count 5 лет назад

    I don't have a computer that is capable of playing this game, however, because of your videos, I am considering purchasing a new computer just so I can play this game. Thanks for the videos!

  • @Dyrwen
    @Dyrwen 5 лет назад

    I dug your Maori run; hadn't subscribed to you before that, looking forward to this one.

  • @exodia_right_leg
    @exodia_right_leg 3 года назад +1

    Wow I am not used to potatoes old videos. He sounds like he hasn't slept for 2 weeks

  • @hakonandreasolaussen1949
    @hakonandreasolaussen1949 5 лет назад +1

    When you’re going back to old civs after doing all the new ones, maybe go for a diplo victory with pericles? Or Egypt, who I think are getting flood plain changes with this exp

  • @adryandawnstarr477
    @adryandawnstarr477 5 лет назад +6

    All aboard the hype train! Im not sure why, but im super interested in this Civ's playstyle.

    • @xbjrrtc
      @xbjrrtc 5 лет назад +1

      It's different! And it allows us to make use of poor terrain.

  • @benedictosamosir9109
    @benedictosamosir9109 5 лет назад +9

    why don't you build the holy site on the +6 flat dessert? Those hills are important for money aren't they?
    Also ruhr valley + petra on your capital.

  • @Hathsin
    @Hathsin 5 лет назад

    Praise the gold. It is the Mansa Way.

  • @brianhum8765
    @brianhum8765 5 лет назад

    Love seeing the Mali gameplay Potato! Would it not have been better to settle to the southwest of that first city and save the 3 production wooded hill you settled on? Keep up the good work, can't wait to play GS next week!

  • @Kopesy
    @Kopesy 5 лет назад +2

    The map generation looks fantastic. Have they updated it with the new expansion?

  • @aaronspeach9404
    @aaronspeach9404 5 лет назад +4

    Did you have barbs turned off or was it just super lucky you had no barb camps?

  • @gorp2116
    @gorp2116 5 лет назад

    So I see all those new toggles for things like river and mountain labels but heavens to Betsy that is a big QoL hit because I'm almost certain they still haven't implemented setting defaults for those in the options.

  • @kang88mao
    @kang88mao 2 года назад

    You should build the Scout first and gain more game scores. The golden age will allow us to purchase settlers and expand quickly.

  • @corgizx
    @corgizx 5 лет назад +4

    ITS MALI TIME!!!
    Wait, that's not right...

    • @NoSafeHavens
      @NoSafeHavens 5 лет назад

      DrAvatar
      That’s Kupe’s new catch phrase.

  • @samborambo222
    @samborambo222 5 лет назад +2

    Every time you crush a potential PetRuhr desert hill I cry a little on the inside :'(
    Also, ideal district placement might end up being a little like the Hansa/Commercial Hub diamonds for Germany, only with Holy Sites and Sugubas.

  • @drfredostein4410
    @drfredostein4410 4 года назад +1

    Potato was at war with Hungary and he had to buy units when he had a useless warrior just fortifying nothing near the city state.

  • @Nonamnon
    @Nonamnon 5 лет назад

    Really enjoying the game so far!

  • @CanBonamaVEVO
    @CanBonamaVEVO 5 лет назад

    FINALLY SOMEONE PLAYS MALI

  • @esbenrasmussen2419
    @esbenrasmussen2419 5 лет назад

    I think if he had known about the flat desert tile mechanic with trade routes, then placing the first holy site on a flat desert tile would be better, saves one petra hill and then the commercial hub could be on the grassland river instead. Saves 2 amazing workable tiles and makes use of 2 otherwise useless tiles for districts. But there is a lot of mechanics to get used to with this civ.

  • @theral056
    @theral056 5 лет назад

    Do you run the video at 1.5x speed and comment over it later, or are you just that fast? This is such a quick pace. Lovely to watch!

  • @eatsleepgame6189
    @eatsleepgame6189 5 лет назад

    ill watch em as soon as u make em, more pls

  • @bensrandomshows1482
    @bensrandomshows1482 4 года назад

    The mali seem so cool to play

  • @Zasurein
    @Zasurein 5 лет назад

    We need to know what happens. Keep going!

  • @dracma127
    @dracma127 5 лет назад +1

    So, the new achievements got updated into the game yesterday. What do you think of it? Po-tay-toes is going to be a pain to get, I can tell already.

  • @Sam-lr9oi
    @Sam-lr9oi 5 лет назад

    Did you say 5 THOUSAND gold per turn? Oh boy, am I excited to see this.

  • @EvilShootME
    @EvilShootME 5 лет назад

    Holy shit I was waiting for so long for someone to do a long LP of Mali. Thank you!

  • @charlesvattimo4674
    @charlesvattimo4674 4 года назад

    6:05
    One or more Spanish Conquistadors - About 15th century AD

  • @eduardo3652
    @eduardo3652 5 лет назад +1

    Potato you used to show us the game creation screen in a lot of your previous series, is there a reason you haven't done it for Gathering Storm?

  • @dominiqueill5292
    @dominiqueill5292 5 лет назад

    Should have moved over ones more to keep the forest hill then made a lumber mill also as Mali you’ll need to worry about sand storms

  • @juliocmbaia
    @juliocmbaia 5 лет назад +10

    On your third city, should you put your holy site on northeast hex of where you placed thus allowing a +6 Suguba near 2 Holy sites?

  • @alvindiao6392
    @alvindiao6392 5 лет назад

    Yes! Mali! Nice pick

  • @peterbjerregaard4109
    @peterbjerregaard4109 5 лет назад

    Hi Potato! Which mods do you use with your Civilization 6? Thanks for the video by the way, love Mali, and I can't wait to play the mighty Mansa Musa! :D

  • @uoilo
    @uoilo 5 лет назад +6

    "I want to settle wide with the Mali"
    *settles 4 tiles away from capital

    • @hakomichi
      @hakomichi 5 лет назад +5

      Settling wide = lots of densely settled cities covering a lot of territory. Settling tall = building a few cities with a ton of growth and population while maximizing the distance between them.

  • @sofusjohansen7196
    @sofusjohansen7196 5 лет назад

    U actuallt played Mali!!! Yay

  • @USMC2673
    @USMC2673 5 лет назад +4

    3 episodes a day please. 1 jsut isn't enough

  • @SubZer0Games
    @SubZer0Games 5 лет назад +2

    GOLD!!! GIVE ME MOOOOONNNNAAAAAYYY

  • @jimmym3352
    @jimmym3352 5 лет назад +1

    I feel dumb, I clicked the Begin Game icon.

  • @frederikskarbyetogeby7238
    @frederikskarbyetogeby7238 4 года назад

    Lets have a new LP Mali video! On Diety as well!

  • @jaeusa160
    @jaeusa160 5 лет назад

    As a point of discussion rather than criticism: Is investing in Pingala really worth it if you're going to limit the city's growth with a lot of 3-tile settles?
    Might still be worth it even with a few population but that's 3 whole Governor titles for a city struggling to grow beyond size 5 that's losing half its workable tile yields to neighbors. Actually, Pingala might simply not be appropriate for Mali as a general rule (decisions always vary by game, of course), due to how much they're looking at Desert tiles and Mines, ie tiles and improvements which don't generate Food. Pingala might be SO overpowered in this build that it's still worth. :O

  • @CrazedBanana
    @CrazedBanana 5 лет назад

    Here's one more for the algorithm!

  • @S23K
    @S23K 5 лет назад

    One small request: can you turn the game sounds up please? I could be wrong (watching on my laptop) but I think it may even be off entirely. Cheers :)
    Edit - now I see your pinned comment - that's what I get by watching the vid too early :P

  • @brooklyn560
    @brooklyn560 5 лет назад

    Who's you're favorite of the new civs so far

  • @robtierney5653
    @robtierney5653 3 года назад

    Mali is potentially the most overpowered civ in the game... +4 gold for every mine regardless of anything else? dang..

  • @VirtuesOfSin
    @VirtuesOfSin 5 лет назад

    So... Potato... How is that Religion going? Ganna get good use out of that +2 era score, right? :P

  • @julianokong-a-san7053
    @julianokong-a-san7053 5 лет назад

    This is a comment to please the RUclips algorithm. So i don't miss a new vid

  • @vegansons4536
    @vegansons4536 5 лет назад

    What system are you running? Movement seems very quick. In late games in CIV 6, turns take about 10-15 seconds on my machine. Cheers for your help.

  • @wuntap8574
    @wuntap8574 5 лет назад

    good stuff

  • @eduardo3652
    @eduardo3652 5 лет назад

    Hey Potato, what do you think about Take-Two Interactive sneaking the Red Shell analytic software into Gathering Storm? It is in the EULA... but seriously, who reads those?

  • @nfzeta128
    @nfzeta128 5 лет назад

    Why is it that you don't get scouts early though? Especially given the boosts that exploring the map usually give you compliment research paths well.

  • @brianhum8765
    @brianhum8765 5 лет назад

    Mali gameplay wooo!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @moonbender95
    @moonbender95 5 лет назад

    Make the Climate Chaotic bwahahahah... I CAN'T WAIT TO PLAY Dx

  • @lctree9252
    @lctree9252 5 лет назад

    hi, I love your games, they are encouraging me to play more seriously.
    I'm relatively new to the game (never really played full on) how come you are getting +6 faith on holy sites when in my game I am only getting +2 or +3 ?
    I am selecting holy site spots surrounded by the same tiles as your selections. I must be missing something important.

    • @lctree9252
      @lctree9252 5 лет назад

      I found the problem, you selected desert folklore as your pantheon. thank you

  • @fizzlebeef165
    @fizzlebeef165 5 лет назад

    Mali is a bit over powerd if he is in the right place

  • @jonoc08
    @jonoc08 5 лет назад +5

    3 episodes today?

    • @PotatoMcWhiskey
      @PotatoMcWhiskey  5 лет назад +2

      nah that was a special occasion

    • @AQJ_DK
      @AQJ_DK 5 лет назад

      @@PotatoMcWhiskey Sad :(

    • @zacksing-judge7464
      @zacksing-judge7464 5 лет назад

      @@PotatoMcWhiskey "While we are exploring all the new civilizations in gathering storm I am going to make an effort that on the first day that I release a new series starts, I am going to make an effort to release 3 videos" So what you meant was just the first one, not all. I, like Jonathan, thought there would be 3 episodes as that was the set expectation. I would suggest putting that fact that it is only one in the show notes and not on comment 20-whatever incase others are looking.

    • @zacksing-judge7464
      @zacksing-judge7464 5 лет назад

      Sorry, that sounded bitchy. My inner Lawyer came out there. What I meant to say was I 2 R SAD

    • @PotatoMcWhiskey
      @PotatoMcWhiskey  5 лет назад +1

      Sometimes I simply can't keep to the plans I laid sadly

  • @Azmoslam
    @Azmoslam 5 лет назад

    This is much better to the game you played live. You read the twitch chat too quickly and your thoughts are just more scattered. Without chat it's much more entertaining as I get to follow your thought process as you play.

  • @fryingpanllama4238
    @fryingpanllama4238 4 года назад

    This is a comment to please the RUclips algorithm

  • @Saki630
    @Saki630 5 лет назад +1

    How slow is the start with Mali?

  • @SourceOfBeing
    @SourceOfBeing 5 лет назад

    Does "-1 Production from Mines" mean that the tile loses Production or just keeps its base?

  • @jaywastaken
    @jaywastaken 5 лет назад

    Petra! Petra! Petra!

  • @AmariieMaerthos
    @AmariieMaerthos 5 лет назад

    So, I'm not sure, does Mali have a rough/slow start? Hehe

  • @DarkUmbrus
    @DarkUmbrus 5 лет назад

    It feels very oppressing without the game sounds xD anyways... Thanks for making my hype higher and higher at each episod man!

  • @venturedragon8951
    @venturedragon8951 5 лет назад

    Is this expansion Rise and Fall compatible? Will you be able to play with Rise and Fall leaders and Gathering storm leaders at the same time?

  • @samermoncef4147
    @samermoncef4147 3 года назад +1

    يا هلا بالشباب

  • @michaelharder3055
    @michaelharder3055 5 лет назад

    Ilkum gives 30% benefit when buying builders too right?

  • @iptf
    @iptf 5 лет назад

    What buffs or changes are there to the other civs like the Zulu and Egypt? Can you say?

  • @DynaCatlovesme
    @DynaCatlovesme 5 лет назад +1

    I'd stick with the original site for the commercial hub. Why kill future Petra hills? Now it looks like you'll want to put Petra in Timbuktu.

  • @juliocmbaia
    @juliocmbaia 5 лет назад

    Also, Shouldn't you faith purchase missionaries right away?