Controversial putting nose angle results - flights compared- tech disc test disc golf
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- Опубликовано: 3 авг 2024
- 00:00 - Intro
00:44 - Nose angle 2 definitions
02:45 - Why does it matter?
03:00 - Ricky W disputes his nose down putt
03:56 - Learning impact
04:30 - Putting styles
06:58 - Spush putt nose down
07:35 - Spush putt nose down flight, stats, thoughts
08:43 - Spush putt less nose down flight, stats, thoughts
10:09 - Spush putt nose angle compared
10:22 - Spin putt mild nose down flight, stats, thoughts
13:10 - Spin vs spush flight and stats
13:26 - Spin putt isolated movement
14:29 - Spin putt isolated movement vs spush stats
14:41 - Nose up spin putt flight, stats, thoughts 
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Fantastic informative video
I noticed putting in my yard whenever i do a backloaded grip (ring & pinky applying more pressure than index & middle fingers) in my spin putt that it seems way more nose up. Could be my imagination though.
If I am understanding what a spin put is. It is basically the type of put I want when putting on a hill. To reduce the amount of roll down the hill. Ideally for me, it will do a bit of a c shaped roll, then roll back around. Or, just drop out of the air loosing all momentum landing near the basket. There is the upside down U shape into the basket or the landing on top of the basket and falling down into it. Though, that is something I can not realiably replicate at around 47 rounds of Disc Golf under my belt. I do not count when I played years ago. Because, it seems to have been a total reset of skill when I started up again.
I think the spin putt stroke makes it a lot easier to control the launch angle and nose angle in a way that keeps the putter parallel to the slope so it can land flatter on the slope.
For me a spin putt stroke is a lot easier to manipulate in many different ways so it's my go-to style for almost most utility putting situations where I need a significant adjustment to make the putt like going around obstacles, needing a lot of anny, hitting small windows, scrambling, low ceilings, on knees, etc.
But a spush is a bit easier to consistently be on-line with the basket (centered) and land closer when missing. And most of the time I have clear looks at the basket so numbers wise, I'm spush putting more often because of that.
Please keep these coming. I'm curious what putting style you will settle on and why.
Did you get a Techdisc putter? Did you get the Luna or the Aviar?
I like Lizotte's spin putt. He can "nose the disc up more" (maybe it's still nose down) and float it at the basket for a soft bid. If it misses, he still has an easy comeback. This gives him free bids in circle 2.
I didn’t get the tech disc putter. Just used the driver for these tests lol. Because it was mostly the nose and launch angle I was curious about which I don’t think will change much if I was using the tech disc putter.
I’ve settled mostly on two styles with variations within them. The first spin putt style is my most natural but I actually use it mostly specific situations like scrambling, on knees. lower ceiling, elevated baskets, holding anhyzers or full S flights, or hyzer shaping / spike hyzer putts, or high launch angle stalling bids similar to the flight of the standstill wrist flick and for small windows. Basically it’s the easiest one to manipulate for most utility situations. Nose up feels more like a spin stroke with some weird wrist angle.
But a majority of putts I use the first spush style that’s more nose down. However my movement gets more minimized inside the circle and I don’t use as deep of a backswing unless I’m far away. But when I’m far it’s easier often to spin but because the significant nose down of spush makes you have to fight against that nose angle to get the height you need and sometimes the wind just slaps down the top of the disc since it’s not as aerodynamic initially throwing towards the top of the disc.
But the spush style feels a little easier to be consistently on line with that’s why it’s my main style when it’s not a utility situation. I do use it for some utility situations too though like if I want a big lob type soft bid, or need to lob over obstacle where the nose down flight after is preferable to a spin putt where going over will be more stally.
I think using both spin and spush has made me better at both. Transferable skills / improved my mechanics by having a more holistic feel of them.
@@disc-golf-neil I like your decision.
1. For closer "easy" putts, use the spush. It uses big muscles which will be more consistent than "twitchy" wrist flicks which can go very wrong when they go wrong. It's also very nose down, so your putter isn't going far if you miss.
2. For special putts that need spin (hyzers, annies, low ceilings...use the spin putt.
The only downside I see is you have to master two putts. Right now, I'm trying to spin everything, but consistency is not a goal yet.
@@sabrewolf479 yeah but that's part of my point of mentioning the transferrable skills. To me it's felt like I'm not mastering two skills, I'm just getting better at putting mechanics overall and switching between the two regularly when practicing has made it feel like both styles are benefiting from the influence of the other rather than tunnel vision on one style.
@@disc-golf-neil I like it. On a different but related note, I don't think of any putt as a "push" or "spin" putt. All putting spins the disc. The difference is the hips. 1. There is a kettlebell hip swing (down and then up and forward). This is a fundamental hip movement, the hips/glutes are the most powerful muscles in our bodies, and it's very repeatable, but this throws the disc up, so you must nose it down a lot. Because you're trying to get power from your hips, your arm is straighter and more "locked" to transfer your hip power to the disc. 2. Alternatively, there is forward back hip movement that is much weaker and serves to facilitate an arm/wrist whip. Most of your power comes from the arm/wrist whip, the hips are secondary and not strictly necessary. This does not "swing" the hips or the disc up, so you do not need nose the disc down nearly as much.
I think "spin" vs "push" just confuses the topic, and I think your video illustrates everything I'm saying here.
@@sabrewolf479 yeah I agree I don’t like the terms. That’s why I focus on the distinction of arm lifting because lifting the arm is not pushing, extending the elbow more forward like with spin putting is closer to pushing haha.
But when thinking of lifting the top of the flight plate towards the chain can make it seem / feel more like you are pushing the top flight plate not the chains.
But yeah, for me, focusing on more or less arm lift naturally makes the hips and lower body adjust to match.