After reading the book I don't think it was ever covered what happened to Marcus Luttrell's actual rifle. He never lost it during his deal and I sure as shit would be hanging on to it forever after the work it put in, but maybe it got recycled after he was evac'd?
yeah i wanna know what happened to all the rifles, i know the taliban got at least 3, it’s also kinda speculated that axe carried a M4 and a MK12, i don’t know if that’s true it’s just what i heard. but i know the taliban got everyone’s rifles but the rifle marcus had. i’m sure they are lost. in the footage from the taliban you only see 2 M4s so that means when it was filmed they either hadn’t found axes body or axe just lost his rifle and it wasn’t with him when he was killed. no telling what happened to them but i wish they where in a museum somewhere.
You described the STORY more than you described the gun. What Unit was the real gun in. What caliber. what kind of scope. What paint was used on the gun. What was the real gun called. Who used the gun in real life. Where was the gun used in real life. A "documentary" needs to have these facts in them.
The real gun was used in Iraq and is still being used in Afghanistan by various units. Its military nomenclature was the MK12. It was a modified M16 with an 18" match grade barrel. The optic that was typically issued was the Leupold Mk3, but was commonly swapped by the used for something they preferred. It was chambered in 5.56 and used the Mk 262 Mod 1 ammo manufactured by Black Hills utilizing the 77gr Sierra Open Tipped Match bullet, otherwise know as the Sierra Mach King. It came from the factory black but was then painted with typically spray paint out of a can by the individual it was issued to. Hope this helps.
I actually did know all that but it's still interesting. I would have liked some details on what makes it a mark 12, what a 12 is. Ar's Quite plentiful out there and Finding meaningful differences between one rifle and another can be difficult.
The "built" rifles came with Knights Armament 2 Stage triggers.....very similar to the modern Geissele SSF triggers! Equally pricey but very nice single and two stage triggers! You can accomplish a very accurate trigger with the Geissele SSA-E trigger for about $150.00 less. And perfectly legal on a AR15 clone rifle.
Nice rifle....but a bit far from a "replica" Axe Mk12 Mod 1. Missing: M16A1 lower, KAC foregrip, Doctor RDS on ARMS mount and cap on front of scope, SOPMOD stock is painted in the movie, AN/PEQ2 on rail, and finally a Mk12 Gas block. Outside of all that, your rifle is pretty cool!
@@DowntownDeuce2 ......Wow, a triggered comment to my comment from 10 months ago! LOL Regardless, I'm very quite aware that "Crane" refers to the gas block as a manifold. Call it what you want gas block or manifold make me no difference. Both Daniel Defense and Badger Ordnance, the original manufacturers list them as "Gas Blocks".
@@seniortac4175 A grown man would just admit he was wrong when he said that is not a Mk12 gas block. A grown man would- but you didn't. You managed to comment on everything but that. You think that someone pointing out your error is "triggered?" How old are you, kid? Adults don't use the word "triggered," much less use it incorrectly. Growing up without a father really affected you. No wonder your channel is new and has no content. So, I ask again, what gas block did you think it was, if not a Mk12?
@@DowntownDeuce2 ......LMFAO a "grown man"? You are fucking hilarious!! The video doesn't show the gas block well enough to be able to clearly show that is it in fact a Mk12 Gas Manifold / Gas Block / Gas redirection device, or what ever you want to call it. The rifle in the video is a "prop" and a "Mock" version of the real thing, not a "replica". Until a different video comes out specifically pointing out that is a Mk12 Gas block, I'll stand on my original statement! And I will publicly admit my mistake, just for you!! "Triggered"...again you're fucking hilarious!!! I'm the "kid" that has to start and talk shit about a 10 month old comment, of my OPINION of the information available in the video??? 56 years old my friend! "Kid" !! Thanks for the compliment! My father passed away in 2012 at 87 years old!!! Any more asinine assumptions "Kid"???? My "channel" is new because, my original channel was shut down in 2020 by the RUclips Liberals due to firearms content and training. Close to 10K subscribers and nearly 60 videos. I'll assume that you clearly have little to no experience with this specific rifle the Mk12 Mod 1. I on the other hand have extensive experience with this rifle and many of the USSOCOM weapons systems, do you???
Marcus has been clear that he ran a NXS 2.5-10x24. So you don’t have the correct optic. Also SOPMOD stock and ergo grip missing. Seems like a huge miss by you guys. B
m16a2 lower is historically accurate. its said they even kept the full auto capabilities just in case SHTF. reason they went with m16a2 lower was because they had a shitload of surplus hanging around. mk12 SPR was originally just an upper receiver. than eventually a complete rifle. as for the stock, they did use b5 stocks, not sure if they had qd back then though.
There are two primary versions of the Mk12. This is the Mod 1 with the KAC rail. The Mod 0, which wasn’t issued to the unit in the film, had the PRI handguard.
Great movie but it destroyed the market for anyone wanting to build a MK12 mod 1 now because you can’t find any of the parts anymore especially the KAC-Knight's Armament Long FF RAS, MK12 Mod 1 handguard and rail covers been out of stock for years.
Rather Hollywood self-congratulatory (imho)! I spent 42+ years as a senior Naval officer and then as a Lockheed Martin executive (including such things as graduating with distinction from senior war college), so I know a good deal about the military and its history. Virtually every movie I have ever seen concerning the military has countless factual errors. Admittedly, most of these discrepancies do not significantly compromise the fundamental story, and sometimes they may essentially be required because vintage equipment is no longer readily available. For example: - In the first Midway movie, the USS Lexington (CVA/T-16) is used, but it had not yet been built and it had both an angled flight deck and steam catapults, neither of which existed in 1942. - Similarly, in Tora! Tora! Tora!, T-6/SNJ Texan trainers were widely employed as substitutes for US Navy and IJN carrier borne attack/fighter aircraft, but they took no part in the 7 DEC 41 Hawaiian air attack. I fully understand why Hollywood makes these sorts of accommodations. HOWEVER, this RUclips extols the motion picture industry’s efforts to be historically accurate, and that’s - at best - a myth. Hollywood may sometimes do so when it’s relatively easy and inexpensive, but not when it requires any substantial effort or cost.
Roy Kiefer check out other movies this movie gun house has worked on, as well as videos they’ve done with Larry Vickers, maybe you’ll have a better appreciation for them afterwards
@Justin Mishler: As I’m quite certain my initial comment indicated, I was NOT focusing on this Hollywood “gun house” per se. Rather, my point is the general lack of detailed accuracy that Hollywood accepts in ALL ASPECTS of its militarily-oriented productions (which is why I intentionally selected two illustrations that had nothing whatsoever to do with small arms). Here’s another example: Last night my wife and I saw the current movie Midway, The dive bomber digitally animated throughout the presentation correctly is the Douglas SDB Dauntless, designed by one of few America’s genius aerodynamicist (Ed Heinemann). For its time, it was a superb attack aircraft. BUT, the movie constantly gets the interior, trailing edge, perforated flaps (speed breaks) wrong - there was only one on each wing and it only rotated downward,. However, the movie constantly shows BOTH an upper and a lower perforated speed breaks located proximate to each wing root. Factually, that’s incorrect and it probably would have been a risky design - potentially too much aerodynamic loading on the wing carry through structure and the possibility of catastrophic asymmetrical deployment.
Roy Kiefer this video is specifically about this movie gun house which is why I commented about looking into them more. If they say that try to get stuff perfect and they do they aren’t telling you a myth or lying
@Justin Mishler: Please explain what precludes me from reasonably expanding the limited focus of a RUclips video to include a larger - but still entirely relevant - point.
Lone survivor? You mean the guy that dropped his weapon and covered his ears as his team leader called for help? The guy that had 10 full mags in the chest rig the army recovered? You should read the truth, not some marky mark movie.
@@davethemagnificent2576 I fucked mine up the first time I did it, but it’s easy to paint over. You could always take it to get sand blasted if it gets too thick.
![Lone Survivor | On The Set Gearing Up [HD]](/img/1.gif)
very cool
After reading the book I don't think it was ever covered what happened to Marcus Luttrell's actual rifle. He never lost it during his deal and I sure as shit would be hanging on to it forever after the work it put in, but maybe it got recycled after he was evac'd?
yeah i wanna know what happened to all the rifles, i know the taliban got at least 3, it’s also kinda speculated that axe carried a M4 and a MK12, i don’t know if that’s true it’s just what i heard. but i know the taliban got everyone’s rifles but the rifle marcus had. i’m sure they are lost. in the footage from the taliban you only see 2 M4s so that means when it was filmed they either hadn’t found axes body or axe just lost his rifle and it wasn’t with him when he was killed. no telling what happened to them but i wish they where in a museum somewhere.
So... it’s a mock12
If only it could shoot 5.56 at Mach 12
I read that with my mark walberg boston accent
@@moorod5213Haha! thanks for that😂
noice!
It is a nice looking rifle.
You described the STORY more than you described the gun. What Unit was the real gun in. What caliber. what kind of scope. What paint was used on the gun. What was the real gun called. Who used the gun in real life. Where was the gun used in real life. A "documentary" needs to have these facts in them.
The real gun was used in Iraq and is still being used in Afghanistan by various units. Its military nomenclature was the MK12. It was a modified M16 with an 18" match grade barrel. The optic that was typically issued was the Leupold Mk3, but was commonly swapped by the used for something they preferred. It was chambered in 5.56 and used the Mk 262 Mod 1 ammo manufactured by Black Hills utilizing the 77gr Sierra Open Tipped Match bullet, otherwise know as the Sierra Mach King. It came from the factory black but was then painted with typically spray paint out of a can by the individual it was issued to. Hope this helps.
John Q. Public if you don’t know those basic things already why did you click on the video?
The title of the video literally references Lone Survivor...watch the damn movie.
how abut you acutely tell us what the parts are!!!!!!!!!!!!
There missing the forward grip that was on his rifle in the movie
Should have been a Gen 1 SOPMOD stock, and an Ergo grip. Other than that it looks good.
He clearly has anA1 grip, and Marcus Luttrell used A2 stock, not an LMT SopMod, in all of his photographs. Where did you get your information?
I actually did know all that but it's still interesting. I would have liked some details on what makes it a mark 12, what a 12 is. Ar's Quite plentiful out there and Finding meaningful differences between one rifle and another can be difficult.
I beg your pardon but. I thought MK12 rifles use M16A1 lowers
(Something about Full Automatic Rifles having better trigger control).
The "built" rifles came with Knights Armament 2 Stage triggers.....very similar to the modern Geissele SSF triggers! Equally pricey but very nice single and two stage triggers! You can accomplish a very accurate trigger with the Geissele SSA-E trigger for about $150.00 less. And perfectly legal on a AR15 clone rifle.
He said it was an m16 lower
They actually have worse trigger accuracy
What about that time of the month bloodied gun?
Nice rifle....but a bit far from a "replica" Axe Mk12 Mod 1.
Missing:
M16A1 lower, KAC foregrip, Doctor RDS on ARMS mount and cap on front of scope, SOPMOD stock is painted in the movie, AN/PEQ2 on rail, and finally a Mk12 Gas block.
Outside of all that, your rifle is pretty cool!
That is clearly a mark 12 "gas block," as you call it, on it. (Crane refers to it as a "manifold") What did you mistakenly think it was?
@@DowntownDeuce2 ......Wow, a triggered comment to my comment from 10 months ago! LOL
Regardless, I'm very quite aware that "Crane" refers to the gas block as a manifold.
Call it what you want gas block or manifold make me no difference.
Both Daniel Defense and Badger Ordnance, the original manufacturers list them as "Gas Blocks".
@@seniortac4175 A grown man would just admit he was wrong when he said that is not a Mk12 gas block. A grown man would- but you didn't. You managed to comment on everything but that.
You think that someone pointing out your error is "triggered?" How old are you, kid? Adults don't use the word "triggered," much less use it incorrectly. Growing up without a father really affected you.
No wonder your channel is new and has no content. So, I ask again, what gas block did you think it was, if not a Mk12?
@@DowntownDeuce2 ......LMFAO a "grown man"? You are fucking hilarious!!
The video doesn't show the gas block well enough to be able to clearly show that is it in fact a Mk12 Gas Manifold / Gas Block / Gas redirection device, or what ever you want to call it.
The rifle in the video is a "prop" and a "Mock" version of the real thing, not a "replica". Until a different video comes out specifically pointing out that is a Mk12 Gas block, I'll stand on my original statement!
And I will publicly admit my mistake, just for you!!
"Triggered"...again you're fucking hilarious!!!
I'm the "kid" that has to start and talk shit about a 10 month old comment, of my OPINION of the information available in the video???
56 years old my friend! "Kid" !! Thanks for the compliment!
My father passed away in 2012 at 87 years old!!!
Any more asinine assumptions "Kid"????
My "channel" is new because, my original channel was shut down in 2020 by the RUclips Liberals due to firearms content and training.
Close to 10K subscribers and nearly 60 videos.
I'll assume that you clearly have little to no experience with this specific rifle the Mk12 Mod 1. I on the other hand have extensive experience with this rifle and many of the USSOCOM weapons systems, do you???
We know you can't identify a gas block, but have you identified your real father yet? You should locate him, Lord knows he's not trying to locate you.
Missing the pistol red dot on top.
Marcus has been clear that he ran a NXS 2.5-10x24. So you don’t have the correct optic. Also SOPMOD stock and ergo grip missing. Seems like a huge miss by you guys. B
Can't wait for the new 2020 WWSD rife but I live in New Zealand so can only watch videos sicks
Cav15 was shit and so is the wwsd.
Is the gas block supposed to be exposed?
It should have a PRI flip up gas block site
Lost me at M16A2 receiver
The stock looks wrong for the period as well, has the qd sockets. I thought they only had gen 1 sopmods in 05’
m16a2 lower is historically accurate. its said they even kept the full auto capabilities just in case SHTF. reason they went with m16a2 lower was because they had a shitload of surplus hanging around. mk12 SPR was originally just an upper receiver. than eventually a complete rifle. as for the stock, they did use b5 stocks, not sure if they had qd back then though.
The m16a2 ate up in it's time but with our modern attachments that's a badass gun
@@outlawdraco they used old A1 lowers actually
@@outlawdraco a2 is 3rd burst. Meaning it was m16a1 or m16a3 lower
Amazing
Not to be rude, but you talked about how you wanted to be historically accurate, but didn’t know that Mk12’s were built on A1 receivers
The Mod 0s were. All of them. The Mod 1s were often off of A2s. But he is missing a lot from that rifle.
Where's the Docter red dot?
That must be Marcus' gun. Axelson's gun had the rear ring with the pic rail section for the piggybacked Docter red dot, like the ACOG mounts the RMR.
Finally i found this rifle in youtube😂..been searching this after i watch lone survivor
Will you buy Calvin Klein boxers like marky mark too? Poser
How long is the suppressor?
8.8 inches
What colours ? Desert, Coyote ? RAL .... ? FOSCO spray ?
Is this dude wearing a choker?
6Glitch lol I’ll call him triple g. Gay gun guy
I think his shirt is just too tight
WTF are you talking about? He's wearing a crew neck shirt...
nunya bidness you’re totally right, but it looks like a choker
I thought he had a different stick on it?
That’s a bloody cool movie fact.
Didn’t it have a peq on it ???
All I know is now I need an MK12 upper...
Should of called pri the handguard looks wrong. It has the mono top rail
There are two primary versions of the Mk12. This is the Mod 1 with the KAC rail. The Mod 0, which wasn’t issued to the unit in the film, had the PRI handguard.
So I was wandering what kind of optic is that specifically
Thats one of the leopuld mks idk the exact number tho
Leupold mk4 is my guess, could be a mk3 though
MR/T MK4 Leupold
It should be a Leupold mark4 TS-30 A2 2.5-8x36
Great movie but it destroyed the market for anyone wanting to build a MK12 mod 1 now because you can’t find any of the parts anymore especially the KAC-Knight's Armament Long FF RAS, MK12 Mod 1 handguard and rail covers been out of stock for years.
This would be more of NSW Recce, not a mk12.
Except the stocks wrong
This is literally the exact one used in the movie.
Is that coyote or what camo is that called
👏🏼
Rather Hollywood self-congratulatory (imho)!
I spent 42+ years as a senior Naval officer and then as a Lockheed Martin executive (including such things as graduating with distinction from senior war college), so I know a good deal about the military and its history. Virtually every movie I have ever seen concerning the military has countless factual errors. Admittedly, most of these discrepancies do not significantly compromise the fundamental story, and sometimes they may essentially be required because vintage equipment is no longer readily available.
For example:
- In the first Midway movie, the USS Lexington (CVA/T-16) is used, but it had not yet been built and it had both an angled flight deck and steam catapults, neither of which existed in 1942.
- Similarly, in Tora! Tora! Tora!, T-6/SNJ Texan trainers were widely employed as substitutes for US Navy and IJN carrier borne attack/fighter aircraft, but they took no part in the 7 DEC 41 Hawaiian air attack.
I fully understand why Hollywood makes these sorts of accommodations. HOWEVER, this RUclips extols the motion picture industry’s efforts to be historically accurate, and that’s - at best - a myth. Hollywood may sometimes do so when it’s relatively easy and inexpensive, but not when it requires any substantial effort or cost.
Roy Kiefer check out other movies this movie gun house has worked on, as well as videos they’ve done with Larry Vickers, maybe you’ll have a better appreciation for them afterwards
@Justin Mishler:
As I’m quite certain my initial comment indicated, I was NOT focusing on this Hollywood “gun house” per se. Rather, my point is the general lack of detailed accuracy that Hollywood accepts in ALL ASPECTS of its militarily-oriented productions (which is why I intentionally selected two illustrations that had nothing whatsoever to do with small arms).
Here’s another example: Last night my wife and I saw the current movie Midway, The dive bomber digitally animated throughout the presentation correctly is the Douglas SDB Dauntless, designed by one of few America’s genius aerodynamicist (Ed Heinemann). For its time, it was a superb attack aircraft. BUT, the movie constantly gets the interior, trailing edge, perforated flaps (speed breaks) wrong - there was only one on each wing and it only rotated downward,. However, the movie constantly shows BOTH an upper and a lower perforated speed breaks located proximate to each wing root. Factually, that’s incorrect and it probably would have been a risky design - potentially too much aerodynamic loading on the wing carry through structure and the possibility of catastrophic asymmetrical deployment.
Roy Kiefer this video is specifically about this movie gun house which is why I commented about looking into them more. If they say that try to get stuff perfect and they do they aren’t telling you a myth or lying
@Justin Mishler: Please explain what precludes me from reasonably expanding the limited focus of a RUclips video to include a larger - but still entirely relevant - point.
Roy Kiefer because the video is about something very specific.
Pretty sure they had solid stocks and not collapsible stocks?
They used both
Lone survivor? You mean the guy that dropped his weapon and covered his ears as his team leader called for help? The guy that had 10 full mags in the chest rig the army recovered?
You should read the truth, not some marky mark movie.
awesome!
Wish i could paint my ar10 like that.
You can. Spray paint. Lots of RUclips videos on how to spray paint a rifle
@@NK-ne9uf I know it. I'm just worried it won't turn out right and it's gonna be alot harder to get it off, then it was putting it on.
@@davethemagnificent2576 I fucked mine up the first time I did it, but it’s easy to paint over. You could always take it to get sand blasted if it gets too thick.
Bad boy tingz
You guys really botched that rifle copy
Comes with eleven, full, 30 round magazines, never fired and only dropped once.
Forgot the foregrip
Not every Mk12 had a vertical grip
It's missing a foregrip
Those were used based on operator preference. Not all Mk12’s had them.
Typical Hollywood fashion… the rifle is nowhere near replica of an mk12 mod 1.
I'll take that kac front sight off your hands ;)
Hate that stock.
Steve