Alpine A110R Review | Is it worth £90k?
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- Опубликовано: 17 июл 2024
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Alpine’s A110 relaunched in 2018 to a swathe of hugely positive reviews, praising its supple, fun drive and lightweight build. Fast forward a few years and the hardcore R version has arrived. But can it really improve on the recipe so brilliantly communicated by the standard version? CAR magazine’s James Dennison finds out.
Chapters:
0:00 - Intro
1:32 - Changes from A110S
3:43 - Driving Impressions
7:28 - Verdict
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Is the A110R the ultimate A110? Let us know...
No. It isn't worth 90K. You can't charge 90K for a car with a Megane engine just because you took the rear window out. Honestly, if it was your own money, would you? No. You'd buy the 110S and save a ton of cash, or buy a Cayman GT4. End of. Put the rear window back, lose the carbon wheels, give it 400 horsepower and undercut the Evora. Now that's a car.
every a110 could have been among the greatest sports cars ever build but, the board of directors, who can't drive a manual rwd, to save their lives, decided that automatics are the way to go... and nothing has changed in the last 5 years or so..., beside, the same board of directors killing one of the best relatively affordable sports brand on the market.. RenaultSport. No one should buy their cars just out of spite against the stu.p.idity of renault's management.
Are the carbon wheels a secret?
No, the best A110 is the A110GT.
Nope. Best is the standard car. Or a Lotus Elise ;)
Had an A110 PE for 2 years as a daily and it was amazing
Well you can pay more for a Mini or an Escort built in a shed here in the UK,which puts this in perspective pricewise,its for drivers not people who think 'French' cars are somehow inferior🤣
Heaven on 4 wheels. 🚙☯♾
So he didn’t bother to mention the CARBON FIBER wheels and seats? hence the price…
Wonderfully beautifully shot and produced video. I loved the comparison over some 30 plus years and a whole other world of automotive capability and the ridiculously expensive "modern" interpretation, you start to forgive the modernity of the Purosangue but, and it is a realistic but, is it a demonstration of nothing exceeds quite like excess? Did the original and even the trip made by Car ever need to happen and therefore was there a need for the follow-up? That's not a question for me to answer but more so you as the audience.
I got the 2021 Legend GT and it is EPIC. The R cost too much.
If you can afford it …. and you really want one …. Then it probably is worth £90K. The residuals will be pretty good and even fairly mundane campers cost £70k plus these days.
Alpine champion World rallye 60 ans de développement de compétition avec SIGMA et F1 alpine retour expérience de course sur se modèles ce n est pas cher du tout v est même donner pour un modèle de compétition
The truth is: You can't buy one today for 90,000 pounds. The new ones are sold out and used ones are much more expensive.
front end downforce is reduced because it now produces more downforce at the rear which lifts the front up
Think my money would go on a standard A110 with some choice, read most, #Life110 mods!
Agreed! Sounds like mine 😊
Not a bad idea, but in all honesty by the time you spec the bigger brakes, the stiffer anti-roll bar, the adjustable shocks and aero, you are normally getting close to an R price anyway.
The R does come with a LOT of track specification parts and is not simply more expensive because it has carbon. The weight saving is a factor and those carbon bits do cost money, but a lot of expense has gone on the carbon wheels and the fully adjustable suspension as well as the brake system (no warping on these disks on the track - unlike the standard car). There are a lot of fine details changed on this car to make it the natural progression from the 'S' with aero. You can, obviously take a base model of ANY car and add the bits to bring it up to the spec of a 'competition' version, but often it is going to take a lot of decision making and research to come up with the right combination of parts that suit you.
The ethos of this car is a lightweight track/road car; the focus being on the lightweight. Alpine achieve this very well. You cannot dump a manual box and a six cylinder into an Alpine and expect it to work the same way - you basically might as well just go for a Lotus or Porsche (which is exactly what you are looking for if you want the weight, cylinders and manual box). It would increase the weight and stuff the handling into the bargain for a package that is available in the Emira and GT4.
Most of the BMW and Porsche crew are used to heavyweight cars and think 1.6 tonnes is 'light' (bear in mind that quoted weights for a GT4 are always a little 'lighter' that the actual weight with your options and a full tank of fuel!)
The weight of an Alpine is WITH a full tank of fuel and all the trimmings (they haven't been to the Italian school of fabricated figures 🤣)
If you want a relatively heavyweight Sports car, at the GT end of the market, then the Alpine is not for you . However I would caution against dismissing a four pot lightweight at £90k until you have driven one - it is a simply a stunning drive and quite unlike anything else... in a really good way!
I think the car that everybody wants doesn’t exist and can’t exist. One with a sonorous engine, high power, low weight yet still with liveability and doesn’t cost a fortune that is a joy to drive on both public road and track.
A compromise has to be made somewhere.
What compromise can you live without?
Short of spending a few million on a GMA, something has to be sacrificed.
The Honda Integra DC2 that I had for 18 years and 195k miles was exactly what you describe 🙂 @@ChapHammersmith
Alpine A110S is the best 😉
Simply elegant
this car is a winner for endurance racing.
all that mentioning of lightening the car and completely misses like helen keller doing a pit stop at hockenheim the carbon fiber wheels☠
Still don't understand the comment about it being underpowered. 0-60 in 3.9s!
well done for resisting the more power = the answer route, thats the german and american approach, french is different
This car is BRUTAL.
90k for a tuned up 4 cylinder 😂 i saw you coming
And going... into the distance
I feel like Ren...er...Alpine could increase boost by modest 4 or 5 lbs and have it be warrantable.
I think you are right. The engine and gearbox are not the issue. The Alpine Uses a Getrag 7DCT300 gearbox and double clutch. The limiting factor is the double clutch. Getrag rate it to 300Nm (hence the name!). Many people have dumped a LOT more through it (400Nm) and the only thing that gets reported is that standing starts can result in a 'bit of clutch slip'. The problem with this is that the people doing this sort of thing are also trying to sell tuning services or pushing there own cars. Everything they say has to be taken with a large pinch of salt because no one ever admits they fried their clutch in 200 miles 🤣
The issue from Alpine could be that they don't want to take a punt on the cost of gearbox warranties when they can leave well alone. It wouldn't take much of a percentage of premature failures to start costing lots of money. Alpine have gone down the other route of better running gear, suspension and less weight on the R
My personal opinion is that changing the power curve to give a consistent/flatter delivery of the power whilst limiting the output to 300Nm is going to be a good way forward. Do I think an extra 20Nm would be worth it and safe - probably!
No LSD?! 100k...Those guys in Dieppe have a sense of humour. It is what it is. They should extend production of A110 till 2030. EV can wait
It does have an LSD - the same as Mclaren and BMW use; an eLSD
Not really is it given the Emira and Caymans GTS are at lower price points.
An A110 in one of its other guises is going to be a better everyday car, 90k?
good lil thang
RS out this year, so these will drop in value when they’re available, especially as it will have more power
Short sleeves, green hedgerows and what looks like harvest time - this must have been filmed 5 months ago. Why has it taken this long to air?
It’s amazing what you can do in the editing suite these days! 👀😉
This boy is definitely William Woolard’s great, great grandson.
Is he really?
Over a 718 Cayman S sure... probably not for any 718 with a 4.0 though
alpine champion World rallye 😅 60 expérience compétition cette alpine reçois tout les retours de compétition de SIGMA et Alpine F1 le prix de cette alpine est donné vue la technologie de compétition de ce modèle the best in the World
I like this better then a Porsche lol
I find it peculiar that it doesn't have a LSD. I would think that at ~300 hp it would definitely benefit from one. Does anyone know why then didn't include it?
Probably the weight
@@bartw8547 thanks. I didn't think about that.
It does have an LSD.
@@SpencerPlanton In the video he said it doesn't. And the CAR magazine review also says it doesn't.
@@crazylegson2It gas an eLSD, same as many others do. Uses individual wheel braking to achieve LSD functionality 👍
If it’s good enough for McLaren, then it’s probably good enough 👍
Gorden Murray thinks so… 🤣
"re-debuted" "Fast a few years" ? Was the Editor asleep when that was written ?
Good spot! Now fixed :)
One manual away from stabbing the caymans in the heart.
Forget about the £90k price tag. All people need is an ND MX5 with slightly tighter damping. Maybe also more steering feel with a more aggressive wheel alignment and PU bushings
Hahaha! Not only haven’t you driven one, but you also haven’t a clue 🤣🤣🤣🤣
No. Unless you can get your ND MX5 as a mid-engined 1030kg 288hp sportscar.
@@AntoniusTyas Nearer 300bhp
Would have been great with a manual… ho hum
If only it had a 6-pot!
How is it that you guys treat these Cars if anyone could just go and get a new one. The GT4 is sold out since months, the R has waiting lists in place….. in a handful years these cars will be missed and everyone who owns one will be happy about to do so.
The S and R are epic and I would choose them over the too soft base model. Body roll is not acceptable for performance driving, and you can have a car with minimal body roll and compliant suspension as found in the PASM/SPASM 718s. Stop pretending like you people like roly poly cars. It's not cute.
Carbon fibre is no longer the best material...now its the carbon foam that looked just as a normal black plastic....
🥂
90k. Just sold a Brabus ForFour 3799 and low mileage TS Selespeed 156 for 2399. Endless used opportunities 2k 5k 10k 20k 25k. I could go on. No. One car 90k as a boys girls toy. No.
90k for a french car 😂... No thanks I''ll go porsche
The alfa romeo 4c is half the cost>>>>>
And half the car
give me this over ANY Cayman 718 any day. This has character and personality----Porsches are just mechanical exercises with 0 emotion.
😮
@@CARmagazineTV yes that's right!!!!!
U obv never driven a porsche. The a renowned as the best drivers car in the world
drive this motor, then take the 4.0L F6 for a spin and tell me there's 0 emotion 🤡 chassis wise yes this alpine is more fun
Porsche is the sports car equivalent of a VW. competent, predictable, but soul less. The fact this car uses Renault parts adds to the quirk ❤
it should be a lot cheaper but we are being taxed into poverty.
Huh? Who builds your roads and schools? Who ensures your safety?
No😂Get the normal one
no
😅 alpine champion World rallye ok développement avec Sigma et f1 alpine pas cher Pour l alpine compétition . Porsche Lotus Mercedes bmw ferrari Volkswagen=zero rallye 😅😂 alpine develope depuis plus 60 ans des modèles de compétition une grand expérience si vous voulez commander une alpine compétition acheter chez le préparateur SIGMA 😅😅😅
Great little car… sadly though, it’s way overpriced & still French 😂
Crap engine…dire interior…completely impractical and will haemorrhage value. For this sort of cash you can get a much better car.
Ok clown
Mini Bugatti
90 grand on a French car you must be joking 😂
it doesn't hove an LSD ? no thanks.
it sounds like shit.
You comment sounds like shit 🤣
It has an electronic LSD.
Not worth it, not even close. It's failure will be epic.
Really? This R-version is so rare that one of it is on offer in France for nearly 133,000 Euros.
The ‘failure’ is not epic. It isn’t a failure. The motoring press love it, the drivers who gave driven it love it and even Gordon Murray daily’s one. Ever think you might be missing the point?