Porsche 911 GT3 RS vs Corvette Z06 | Too much for the road?
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- Опубликовано: 8 май 2024
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The Porsche 911 GT3 RS and Corvette Z06 weren’t designed for Wales’ finest B-roads, but we took them there anyway to find out which of these highly focused sports cars makes the most sense on road. CAR magazine’s James Dennison is your guide.
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0:00 - Intro
1:08 - Porsche 911 GT3 RS
12:17 - Corvette Z06
18:57 - Verdict
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I think Ferrari 296 GTB should give them a run for the money
Some education:
GT3 Touring = Z06
GT3 = Z06+Z07 Performance Pack
GT3RS = ZR1 (coming soon)
So, this review had the cards stacked against the Corvette right from the start.
@@dash-ryan you are forgetting about the upcoming 992 GT2
1.Porsche GT3RS
2. Corvette Z06
3. Porsche GT3/GT4RS
@@fqeagles21 Agreed I went for a 296 GTB over the 992 GT3 RS, I couldn't see any point upgrading from my 991.2 GT3 RS. I have also driven the 992 GT3 RS hard on track and fully logged it, whilst excellent it didn't blow me away anymore than my 991.2 GT3 RS, on slow and medium average speed tracks the difference is small - high average speed tracks like Spa or the ring you gain more benefit for sure. Probably the bigger issue for me was the engine and gear box didn't move the game on. Couldn't care less about the interior, adjustable damping in cab is great. And yet overall it didn't really move me - probably because the engine and gear box didn't really move the game on. I might take a look at the 992.2 RS, we'll see.
First, the Z06 and GT3 target different buyer expectations, and I don't think there are many people cross shopping them. The GT3 wholly is track focused, whereas the Z06 is more of a balance between daily driving and track use , and only comes with a targa top or as a convertible. Does the GT3 even offer a targa top or convertible? (If so, I have not seen one). Second, the Z06 and GT3 are in completely different price categories. The base price of the Z06 is more in line with the Carrera. Considering price, and the fact that the Carrera is closer to the Z06 in daily driving comfort, that probably would be the better comparison. But, I can't recall the last time a car magazine compared a Corvette to another car in its price category - they almost always compare the Corvette to cars costing significantly more money (1.5X, 2X, 3X, etc.). The fact that car magazines cannot find an equivalently priced car that even comes close to the Corvette in daily driveability, performance, etc., that tells you which car really is the winner.
Nobody is cross shopping a C8 Z06 and Carrera (theres the Z51 C8 for that). They serve different buyers markets.
On a side note good luck getting a Z06 for anywhere close to MSRP. They are all going for $130k the second you tick any options box which puts them squarely in 911 GT3/Touring (not RS) price points to which many people are cross shopping them.
The GT3 RS is obviously an outlier and theres nothing in the market that track focused short of a McLaren Senna so you can't objectively compare it to anything.
@@adonislimes6156
There is a fallacy in your argument - Corvettes are not the only cars selling over MSRP. Markups on 911 GT3s are even higher than on Z06s, at least here in the U.S. Even used 2022 and 2023 GT3s are selling for almost $300k. Of course, you can get a Z06 for MSRP if you are patient enough to wait in the allocation line. The same probably can be said for the GT3.
Moreover, most people have a budget when shopping for a new car, and do not significantly vary from that budget, certainly not enough to jump from the price of a Z06 to the price of a GT3. So, although few people may cross shop a Z06 with a Carrera, even fewer will cross shop a new Z06 with a new GT3.
@@adonislimes6156
Also, very few people are cross shopping a Stingray with a Carrera for the same reason I noted in my previous reply. The MSRP for the base Carrera is nearly double that of the Stingray, and even a little higher than the MSRP of the Z06. Start adding in options to get a Stingray and Carerra comparably equipped, and the Carrera will be more than double the price of the Stingray. People rarely make that jump in price when buying a new car. The vast majority of people buying Carerras want a Porsche, and never give serious consideration to a Chevrolet in the first place.
@@adonislimes6156
Lastly, since the question may come up, I did buy my C8 Stingray at MSRP and, yes, I did have to wait a while. The Bowling Green manufacturing plant now is at full production, so wait time on Stingrays is significantly shorter than when I purchased mine. It should get even shorter unless there is another strike by the United Auto Workers.
I love that corvettes are always compared to much more expensive cars! The bang for the buck is what makes me love corvettes so much. I race a c5z06 that I payed $15,000 for and it is so satisfying to beat cars that cost 50-60k more.
GM engineers specifically spent a ton of time working on the exhaust itself to perfect the sound. It’s designed to be center exit. The side exit euro spec sounds nothing like the USA spec
Obviously they didn’t spend enough!
@@JeepCherokeeful yea not the euro one cause who cares about them. All about the USA baby!!! It sounds better than a 458 over here in the usa😎
@@JeepCherokeefulblame those communist in the EU
@@JeepCherokeeful You can blame the stupid Euro emission regulations for that, this sounds like a completely different car in this video, plus lower HP on the euro spec.
Not sure why so many journalists complain about the steering wheel here but not others who did the same thing. La Ferrari has it. The new Ford GT has it. Nobody cared with those two. I've driven a C8 and the wheel is fine.
Sucks everyone else doesn't get the center open exhaust like we do. Hopefully the aftermarket can fix that across the pond 😉
Yup, literally the only reason their version sounds like shit is because of compliance to euro laws. Watch speed phenoms first time drive in C8 Z06 to get an actual estimate of how the car sounds like, its glorious.
So funny how crazy the law and bureaucracy has gotten. No more center pipes, and it's too loud! Lol.
@@aab350z yeah I thought California had the most strict emissions, but Europe said hold my beer 🍺
1 second ago
thanks for writing this... I was over here like why is the exhaust on the outside and not in the middle.
@@brandonchism6960 yeah I think that slightly skewed his review of the Z06, because it sounds AMAZING unrestricted!
Keep in mind the euro spec Z06 seems to have a different exhaust than the US spec Z06 (It looks like the base C8 Exhaust). Didn’t find the sound the same at all in comparison to the US reviews.
I knew something was a bit off!
The euro Z06 loses 40hp
Damn, those euro emissions rules really messed up the sound in the z06
Plus a reduced HP in the Euro Corvette model.
GT3 vs Z06 would be the fair test as those are the real rivals. The GT3 RS is a much more track oriented and expensive car than the Z06.
literally 2x the price of the Z06 even with the Z07 package.
Agreed
European reviewers always do this. Afraid to compare Apples to Apples. Why? There are PLENTY of European sports cars in the 110K pound range, but they know the Vet would embarrass them, so they find a way out.
Porsche started shipping this to the Z06 comparos after the normal GT3 lost to it at the track.
@@markw9512it lost by 1/10th in Savage geese video... With 150hp less... Hardly a loss
One small bit being forgotten here... Its that you cant get a GT3RS for under 350k USD...
i just got one for 297k
Does that mean I can have a Z06 in two different colors in my garage. One for rain and one for shine...These can be picked up state side for around $125 with a few options.
@@Epsonblade No you can't. They are going for at or over $200k.
@@billymays7210 I don't pay dealer mark up, MY DAD OWNS 7 DEALERSHIPS IN FLORIDA... SO YEAH, YEAH I CAN.
@@Epsonblade
1) You said “these can be picked up for $125k” not “I can get these for MSRP because…”
2) HAHAHAHAHAHAHA @ MY DADDY OWNS DEALERSHIPS SO I CAN 😂😂😂 PRICELESS! Thank you for the meme!
3) My daddy can beat up your daddy! 😘😘😘
The Z06 is an absolute steal relative to the Porsche. It is a monster on track too - every inch a true rival for the mighty GT3RS. Well done GM for building a car that has become an instant legend.
😂😂😂
@@tecumseh4095motorsport magazine confirm it's faster so no need to laugh
A legend is not a ugly fat pig 3700lbs mid engine that we see everywhere! It's a american sports car. Let me choose every other mid engine than this design who was already old in 2020!
@@philippeleblond9631 👏 👏
@@philippeleblond9631 how many high revving naturally aspirated V8 cars are available today? Besides the Z06, I don't see anyone.
Here in the states, Z06 Corvettes have a center-mounted exhaust. It's unfortunate that the cars produced for overseas markets have the same exhaust position as the Stingrays.
Yea its due to euro decibal restrictions the exhaust had to be modified for export but still the Z06 is an amazing car to say the least.
@@realdeal7188 I definitely agree 👍🏾
If you're interested in seeing a real world head to head on track review, check out Savagegeese Z06 vs GT3 track test. Real race car driver supported by each manufacturer's support teams (test starts aprox 26min in / surprisingresult). Although that Porche is SWEET, for the money the Zo6 is an easy choice to make.
Exactly Correct!!
That was the standard GT3. This is the RS. In Hagerty's test, the GT3 RS was faster than the Z06 around Willow Springs.
Claims Porsche has the best engine, *forgets the Z06 has the worlds most powerful and most responsive naturally aspirated V8*
Lol they have to a qualify that as “v8”. No Supercar manufacturer makes a na v8 anymore and no the corvette does not have the highest horsepower per liter of any NA production engine,,, not close
@wethomas3
Clearly said V8.
Thats the record.
Dont be biased
@@WindyCity1992 my point is it’s hardly a record. Not one high end car manufacturer makes a NA v8. Not Porsche, not Ferrari, not Lamborghini, not bmw, not Audi, not Mercedes. The only ones are toyota, Dodge, Chevy, and ford. So lol it’s not impressive!
hee haw
@wethomas3
Doesnt matter who does what
When it was being done nobody
Questioned the competition did they??
Yall aren't good at hiding the bias lol
Porsche is amazing, no doubt but I could never spend twice as much for 1 or 2 seconds slower on a track. You'll never notice.
The Corvette is an astonishing accomplishment to this day, because it's built by a mass production car company. Porsche is dedicated to building sports cars and couldn't pull this off without selling SUVs with VW money. For GM, a general-purpose car builder, to build a flat-plane V8 super car is as astounding as Honda building the NSX, and perhaps more so because GM has been doing it non-stop for 70 years! It's just as long a legacy as Porsche.
Absolutely agree; well stated.
And pay there workers criminal wages…
@@TylerSmithMusic1 Although I understand, GM has been teetering on bankruptcy for decades now with government bail outs and such. Unless we all are willing to pay Porsche money for GM product, I'm not sure what the answer is.
@@dash-ryan which were paid for by American tax dollars. We save the company, and get charged over price for every vehicle as they make record profits and stock buyback? Porsche is a specialty company I got that. But mass production is only impressive if you take out the fact that the people who create the vehicles you love, are worked like 2nd class citizens
@@TylerSmithMusic1 Just wait until the market is flooded with inexpensive Chinese EVs. They will also turn huge profits because their employees are worked like 3rd class citizens, at best. My point is that although you make a good point and all employees should be given fair wages and good work conditions, how do compete in a global economy with product made for far less with cheap and inhuman labor? My only thought is for all people to change their buying habits in favor of supporting your local economy. Walmart is a perfect example of how people who don't like the way Walmart shuts down the local mom-and-pop operations when they show up, but is that Walmart's fault or the community's fault for not supporting local business? How do you convince people to take the higher road in their buying habits, when they themselves need a price break to survive? You're right, GM needs to treat it's employees better, but you also have a responsibility then to support GM with your buying dollars.
I mean, to each his own, but I've heard that Z06 engine, and I frankly have no idea what he's talking about. This video did it no justice, but it sounds glorious. Also, didn't realize this immediately, but the entire exhaust setup in the euro-spec car is completely different than US Z06. In the States, the Z06 has 4 central exhaust tips. I wonder if that's due to European noise regulations, and if that's the case, what a shame.
@@ernestkeller186 Because a British reviewer will never give an American car the credit it deserves
In what world are these two cars cost comparable? I just went on Autotrader and the GT3 RS is going for over $400 grand, and the ZO6 for less than $200K. Not only that, watch Harry's Garage review and you'll get an ASTONISHINGLY differently viewpoint of the GT3 on British roads. Hmmm, I wonder how there could be such a strong disparity in opinions?
Look I own a 992 Carrera T but to compare a Z06 to a GT3 RS and glaze over the price differences is ridiculous!
Did I miss something or was the gigantic price difference between these two cars barely mentioned? Also, Z06 production is just ramping up and the car should be easier to get soon... but almost no one will ever be able to actually buy a GT3RS.
literally bro and they always down play the z06 as if it’s not half the price and beats the porsches on tracks🤣🤣
Price difference....with import costs to the UK they'd be a similar price and given this is a UK review...................the C8 is going for between £100k-£140k.
Which converting us $120k-$160k US.
@@slats1987 The Porsche starts at $241,000 😮😮😮
@Cane1992 plus the cost for four other Porsches you'll have to buy first before you can get on the list!
well it's a euro review. That's why 😂
wish they did the quad center exhaust on the z06 in europe too. Also the car sounds more muted in Euro spec how sad
I'm guessing different regulations just to legalize it there? Sad they don't get the same car.
Kinda reminds of 30 years ago, when they ruined Lambo's with EPA stuff just to be able to sell them in America.
The Z06 for Europe doesn't have the quad center exhaust??? That's too bad. ☹
The us spec with the center exhausts makes it a bit more unique.
This is a ridiculous comparison likely meant to minimize the Vette.
@@ernestkeller186 GT3 vs Z06 is a natural comparo, US spec for both cars. Not the RS with as you mention EU spec.
@@ernestkeller186 I'm agreeing with you...read my post again. GT3 vs Z06 in the US is fair. GT3RS vs Z06 in EU is not fair.
@@ernestkeller186 no problemo
With that price difference, you can fix whatever is wrong with the Z06. I prefer the 'vette.
Also buy a second car lol
It's very predicable that the much more expensive GT3 RS won the test, but I think it´s typically a conclusion of european biased and unfair test: first because based on price, the Z06 is also cheaper than the ordinary GT3 , the 911 that it should be compared, and in the pure performances the Z06 probably could humiliate both 911 GT3s in the most of numbers. In my opinion this Corvette CR8 Z06 is to European sports cars what the P-51 Mustang was to German fighters in the middle of last World War, a real paradigm breakdown. The P-51 had a american version of English Merlin engine , this Corvette a american copy of of a Ferrari engine. In general this GM's car has a superior engineering based on better fundamentals at a very competitive cost while the 911 is attached in its tradition and historical relevance in the sport cars world to justify its price. The fact that in the track, the Corvette Gt Am version have beaten 911 Gt am (RSR with a central engine) version so easily in the last Le Mans.
And yet a raced prep version of this very car beat Porsche at Le Mans by a large margin. Euro reviewers twist themselves in knots attempting somehow detract from the car to the point where they contradict each other or test convertible version head to head with its lower spec tires, suspension tune, weight etc. If this exact car were somehow coming from a new Brit marque and priced the same as the old Euros it would be celebrated as a revelation and certainly win the comparison
I belive this is cynical from the so called press. That is because they seat neck deep in the ass of mighty makers like VAG striving for their ever recurring cars and events and advertising, while they gain nothing from erratic american performance cars presence and market share. @@jpslayermayor9293
@@jpslayermayor9293the race-prepared version of the 911 crushed the Corvette 5 years in a row
It is not so difficult to accept that regardless of the price, the 911 gt3/rs was always superior to the z06 of each generation including this one, and well, the Corvette here in Europe and the rest of the world costs the same or more than a 911 and you talk about the Europeans are biased when literally all their magazines like motor trend or car and driver are completely biased with foreign cars or I remind you of the c7 zr1 beating the 911 gt2 in the vir when the 911 gt2 practically destroys the Corvette on any track in the rest of the world , or comparing the lap of the c8 z06 in the VIR with a professional driver against the lap of the 992 gt3 and an amateur driver, the numbers do not lie and the 911 was always superior and the only excuse they had was the price but now with the Corvette costing the same as a Porsche, they no longer have excuses and if we talk about lemans, the 911 crushed the Corvette in the last 5 years
@@Steven-re3id Man you a masterpiece of Porsche fanboy ... The last five GT Am Pro victories in Le Mans before 2023 were 2 from Ferrari, 2 from Aston Martin ( the Brand that won more GT class races in Le Mans in this century) and only 1 from Porsche, and this year Corvette won very easily . By the way the last year that Porsche won (2020) there was no Corvette in the race neither CR8 or CR7 and the car Porsche uses in Le Mans is the RSR , a "especial" 911 with a CENTRAL ENGINE. No that car is not a real 911 with rear engine as RS GT3 or 911 R . Porsche RS GT2 was another model with turbos and it is no more in production and had almost twice the price of GT3 RS... CR8 is not the front engined CR7.... is a totally different car with CENTRAL ENGINE as RSR that Porsche use in competition ( Can you tell me why) . In fact it is a Ferrari copy with more cm3 in the engine. The trick that GT3 RS uses to be slight faster in track is its DRS, but its is only a aero trick copied from F1 that aftermarked tunners can adapt in any car and it can be very dangerous if used in the regular roads.
The GT3RS get my vote but the Z06 is a brilliant car too, probably the best car America has ever produced.
US made plenty of great cars other than the Z06 like the Chevy Camaro ZL1 1LE, 2016 Dodge Viper ACR, 2020 Shelby GT509 carbon fiber track package, C7 ZR1, and 2022 Cadillac CT5 V blackwing.
@@YusufSayed-px2xy Don't forget the Ford GT, all 3 versions are trading pretty well.
Nope - that honor still belongs to the Plymouth Voyager with wood grain trim.
Now remember that this will be the next to slowest C8 Corvette of the five trims that will eventually be made available. Just imagine this car with twin turbos around 1000hp, AWD, hybrid and more carbon fiber.
@akhoustonyou listed all the American barges 😂
I keep imagining Mr. Ed everytime this guy talks lol
Great SCENERIES and great video. I’m not sure what mode your in,but the exhaust sounds like it’s in tour mode. Really quite! I’ve watched about every C8 Z06 video out there. And I’ve owned my own for 3 months now. And it’s way louder in the cockpit then it sounds here. And out side as well. Cheers
Only reason the Z06 sounds bad is because it has a euro spec exhaust that ruins the sound. The US one is way louder
It was very amusing to see this guy struggle finding weak excuses to place the Porsche ahead of the Corvette....all any sensible person can say is at less than HALF the price...the Corvette is an unbelievable example of American ingenuity...kudos GM! Oh, and one more thing..put both on a race course and see what happens...ha ha ha
Put them both on a race course and see what happens ?
OK…..
Let’s start with Le Mans…..Porsche has won it more times than ANY OTHER manufacturer on the PLANET !!!
Chevrolet ISN’T EVEN IN THE TOP 12 !!!
Ha Ha Ha yourself……BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA………
Where is Porsche in Indy racing....Chevrolet has won it more than any other manufacturer on the planet...Porsche is no where to be found...can't cut it....ha ha ha ROFLMAO@@unclebob4964
Yeah lets start with Le Mans...this year 8 Porsches competed against just one C8 Corvette and the Corvette took the checkered flag....8 to 1 still couldn't win...ha ha ha @@unclebob4964
@@deek4412 You are kidding, of course ! ? Thought this was about real cars you can buy and drive. Send me a photo of your “Indy” car cruising down Main Street.
If your really wanting to use such a moronic argument….ok.
Honda and Ilmor Engineering make ENGINES for identical Indy car chassis. THATS IT.
And even then, they struggle to run for 4 hours on an 4 turn circuit !
Porsche runs TWENTY FOUR (24) HOURS on an actual ROAD COURSE !
( are you starting to catch on ? )
In the real world, Porsche has Chevrolet for breakfast……ha ha ha….KMBFAYSF.
I’m always surprised when people talk negatively about the steering wheel on the Zeke Zo6 it’s identical to a laFerrari wheel 😮
ATTENTION
The euro spec Z06 (with the side exhausts) have a significant power and even sound deficit compared to US spec cars. I would recommend driving a US model as you get an entirely different experience.
Meant for the race track but most will babysit in the garage or drive it to tea parties
The C8Z06 with £90k in the trunk should help make your decision.
That corner exhaust in the euro-spec Z06 is really a shame because it loses all that character that you get from the center exit they spent a whole extra year developing during the pandemic. Honestly it really doesn't even sound close, so I'm wondering if the z06 was in the right exhaust mode. It's their first year and first generation trying all this out though, so I'm sure once the complaints start rolling in they'll hopefully make some improvements to the next generation (particularly with feedback from the wheel and pedals).
The EU is eating their bacon.
It will be interesting to see how the vett preforms in long term reliability ,I hope it does well,I've seen a a couple in nz on the road and it looks amazing 😊
British reviewers by default will downplay the flaws of Ferrari and other manufacturers like they don’t exist but when it comes to the Corvette they always point out flaws that they make seem to be complete deal breakers or not good enough. Very bias in my opinion.
@@ernestkeller186 British car reviewers are becoming like business class reviewers, never mind all the effort and engineering that it takes to deliver the product because at the end it comes down to how dry the steak was. Absolutely silly
It's literally a Chevy vs a porsche... you don't think the chevy will have a few more flaws and shortcomings 😂
@@coreyegan6751 same could be said about Ferrari and other European brands and all their flaws, crazy thing is that they don’t even bother fixing it or making improvements because of this type of bias and arrogance, but yet British reviewers seem to completely overlook that. No one said that the corvette was perfect but in terms of a sports car that has gotten a complete transformation through quite frankly brilliant engineering in the mist of intense regulations and industry trends, Chevy has done its job on the corvette and delivered with this one here. Let’s call a spade a spade and give credit where it’s rightfully due.
He said both cars are “absolutely brilliant” what more praise do you want? I’m sure there are plenty of American reviewers that prefer the Porsche too, none of which is to say that the Corvette isn’t a great car.
He's saying what he sees and experienced. Roads here in UK are pretty shitty most of the time and if the Porsche deals with them better than the Corvette that's his experience. If it was an American reviewer driving the same cars on American roads the result may have been different. He said both cars were excellent, but the 911 dealt with our roads better...
Nice review guys!
Thanks!
@@CARmagazineTV Should have mentioned that the Z06 in Europe has a less communicative exhaust system, instead of stating the Z06's engine is to blame.
The Vette is better looking, sounds better even with the hokey Euro exhaust, performs just as well, is way more livable and half the price. You can keep the Porsche...
Very curious how much sound the Z06 loses due to emission regulation (particulate filter) compared to the US version. Would have loved to hear more of the engine in the video
It loses 40hp, and loses 18db
@robertm.3520 they never care, they just want to give American cars their typical biased bullshit. Bet he failed to mention the fact that the euro spec Z06 also beat the GT3 RS at Magny Cours, a slow tight corner track with short straights designed to challenge braking and mechanical grip while benefitting high downforce cars on 4 turns, with a massive high speed corner that should give the GT3 RS a massive advantage over other cars since it's got nearly 900lbs more downforce than the Z06
@@saltyfloridaman7163magny cours CLUB has nothing to do with the gp track.... its a test circuit for driving classes. And the review was made by the magazine owner who is not a pro driver at all. Maybe the actual Magny Cours track laptimes with Conti the pro driver from the same magazine will follow but as of now those times have zero value. If you would eventually read the web page you would know that the magazine owner and driver by his own admission states he isnt interested in getting the best laptime but just to get a feel for the car. In Italy in Vairano the z06 with cup 2r lost against a standard gt3 and sorry but 4ruote isnt a german magazine.
Where was the Ford GT when people started talking about the greatest car to come out of America and then there is the ACR Viper... The Z06 is not the greatest American car. Its great value in performance
Not much of a test to determine a winner? Why not put them both on a track to see what they're really capable of, and you may have a different opinion!
The GT3 RS was faster around Willow Springs in Hagerty's test.
I guess if they were comparing bargains the vette would be the winner . They’re comparing apples to oranges!!!
Always disappointed how European reviewers misunderstand the Corvette. The Z-06 is first and foremost a daily driver. It has all the creature comforts of your E Class. If Chevrolet Corvette were to make a track first, road car second, it would be a Z/28. Not even a ZR1 is a track car first.
What kind of Z06 has exhaust pipes on each side and not on the center
This is a very biased video. GT3RS costs over twice as much as the Z06. It has no frunk or trunk. It has a stiff ride that you will not be able enjoy driving around town. Does not have a targa roof. I am a bit puzzled. Its like taking ACR Viper Extreme and comparing it with 911 Carrera S. GT3RS does one thing only, Z06 does so many and of those many, it does tracking very well. Recent track comparison between GT3RS and Z06 was shockingly close. Check out Randy’s driving of both cars.
This is a very biased comment, as the z06 is not a super car. Yet .. it’s a very overpriced American sports car. It’s not all that. It claims 0-60 in 2.6 seconds yet everyone I have seen launch it, even owners I know can only manage 3.4 seconds and higher, due to the wheels trying not to slip and manage all the power. My 2024 M3 CS will cook this thing.
That man said the Z06 sound is “not memorable” 😂 like he doesn’t know it has basic stingray exhaust.
Price for price, the Corvette is hard to beat.
Car Magazine has the most illogical pairings of cars and then makes the judgment based on random facts. There is no way that people are cross-shopping these two cars. First off, unless you have a garage full of Porsches, there is no way you can get in line to buy a new GT3 RS. Plus, let's load some luggage into each car. The GT3 RS is a track day monster, and the Z06 is simply not that.
People might not cross shop them but both are track toys so....
Z06 is a track car once you have the Z06 package, just not at the level the GT3 RS is. Edit: meant Z07
One man’s illogical is another man’s thought-provoking! ;)
@@CARmagazineTV Based
@@CARmagazineTV😂😂
Nice test! I'd be disappointed with Porsche if this new 'Vette could beat it within its first year or so of release. It sounds like the 'Vette is faster at 0-60, and perhaps other straight line metrics, like 0-100 and quarter mile. But tight, twisty roads are the Porsche's domain.
Has the latest Z06 been tested on Germany's home turf - Nürburgring? If yes, how did it faire in its first year?
Exactly! Just look at how badly the porch is in this video, including GT3s, beat up on this Z06 in the twisties of VIR! It’s incredible, he never stood a chance! ruclips.net/video/avynPe70KAU/видео.htmlfeature=shared
The US spec exhaust changes the Z06 completely😭😭
its funny when car journalists reveal the sticker prices of the cars without mentioning the actual dealer cost. Here in texas, a new Z06 is $270,000 and a gt3 rs is $600,000+ with dealer markup... making both of these cars absurd propositions. You could get a McLaren 765LT or GT2RS for the price of the new gt3RS, and a 991.2 gt3 rs for the price of the new z06..... The world is upside down rn.
The C8 was selling for insane money when it first came out, but the nice thing is they come down over time as GM doesn’t limit production to a few hundred examples. Give it another 6-8 months.
Well, yes, Porsche as we know is just mechanical perfection 🥰 but to be fair the Corvette is amazing for it's price! :)
Fairly typical of a stock Corvette to be conservative in setup and alignment. I bet once the track guys start tuning these Z06's they will really come alive. (Not to say I'm assuming it will suddenly be better than the RS, I'm not.
I take the Corvette between the two of them. No question.
@@juliusten6225 ewww
Only one of them will be a classic and sold above sticker price potentially for 20+ years. The other is going to be $70k someday and will be modded with Pep Boys junk. Tough call...
@@MrSchn3llsure thing dummie.
Yes sir move on, nothing special about this Z06 engine 😂
Why doesn’t Chevrolet badge the car as Zed06 in the UK? That aside, nice video on how the GedT3 compares to the Zed06
Why compare the z06 to the GT3RS?! The GT4RS would have been a better comparo. Or the GT3.
A fairer comparison would be a regular GT3. A C-8 Corvette ZL1 would be a comparison to the GT3 RS, but Chevy hasn't made it yet.
The Zr1 will be a competitor to the Porsche gt3rs and then Corvette is releasing a turbo S competitor with a hybrid system, similar to the holy Trinity of Yore.
“An outstanding super car that goes way beyond anything that’s come out of the states before”… Second gen Ford GT/ Mkii enters the chat…
The Z06 ate it alive at VIR Grand Course
Yeah. For 4X the cost of the Z06.
Isnt GT3RS almost twice expensive than Z06? Actual cost not MSRP.
Yes, literally 2x the price, I think you can max out with options close to 400k before dealer markup, while the vette never even touches 190k before dealer mark up. Base z06 is 120kish, base GT3RS is 299,999.99.
Great work Jetro
who
@@PixelVogue
Jethro Bodington
@@RSADYNAMICS what has he got to do with the video?
@@PixelVogue why you hating for ?
@@RSADYNAMICS no hate, just telling you friend Jetro isn't here
Z06 should be compared to GT3: they are road cars that can be taken to the tracks on weekends... GT3-RS is a race car that can be driven on the roads, so it's not in the same league, not to mention the huge price for the RS.
Why does the Z06 have the standard C8 exhaust on it?
Well done. Brilliant review.
Thanks!
Them toggles on the steering like tryna change traction and brake balance on gran truismo 7 MID LAP And CRASH
The GT3 RS is a pure track car, the Z06 an all-rounder. Nice surrounding to review them both, but impossible to compare. Maybe a "normal" GT3 would have been the better choice in characteristics, not necessarily price-wise. If the focus is on winding country roads, maybe even the GT3 Touring.
Well said. Unlike most of the fanboyz commenting from both sides.
@@brianhimmelman420 AWD turbo with a back seat… you’re gonna get a TON of views with that video 😂
@@brianhimmelman420 Um, I didn’t…. I was agreeing with the OP, ya know, the one you replied to? 😂 And that’s the best Chevy could do with their steering and an NA motor… the ZR1 will be faster, but will probably be even more “numb” once they bolt on the turbos… that’s why people pay more $ for a Porsche, the way it feels vs the raw numbers.
Are you being sarcastic comparing a turbo AWD sporty GT with a back seat to an NA 2 seat 2WD sports car “tuned for the track”?
The price delta between the GT3 and Z06 is approximately a Z06. Hmmm.
It’s a shame the particulate filter mutes the z06 LT6 engine
Only a car reviewer would ignore $100,000 dollar difference because its never their money they are considering only their 9/10 experience
I knew what the comments would be before I went to add my own.
Most bias Z06 video yet. Not anywhere near a fair comparison due to price but the reviewer was also just generally unfair.
That 5.5 V8 is amazing and hes complaining about it? I havent heard anyother reviewers complain about power delivery our sound. Only this propagandist.
Guy is out to lunch.
This looks like it’s filmed in Bwylch Mountain as did a cruise around the Brecons last year but anyone know for sure?
Finally!!...a Brit that pronounces Porsche correctly!
wait till zr1 come
Those GPFs sure do suck all the life (and 40 HP) from the Z06. Very sad :(
Why does this Z06 car have corner exit exhausts? OPF’s make it necessary?
Lol Americans complaining
It's not oranges and apples
Is full spec vs full spec
It's not Porsche fault that the Z0Y uses cheaper materials
Describing that as "analog" is throwing a brick through the Overton Window !
0 to 100 on the RS must be lower then 10sec ?
Wider tyres track more on the road, like motorbikes, that happens in any car with wide wheels.
Excellent post. Regarding the differential between the 992 RS and the 991.2 RS: the comparison test which included the 992 was run at nearly freezing temperatures, which slowed all three of the cars in it down quite a bit.
Great job comparing cars that are neither in the same category nor price range! 🙄
Its dangerous to drive on the wrong side of the road.
Not one mention of price in this review. Maybe the Corvette is a little more expensive in Europe than the U.S., but I am fairly certain the GT3 is still at least 50,000 more.
He mentioned the prices said the gt3rs is 200,000pounds and corvette is 110,000pounds. But you can’t really even touch one for that price at the moment.
it was mentioned bud
@ernestkeller186what, do you think he should test an illegal version of the car on UK roads? Apples for apples. This Porsche is also neutered compared to it’s predecessor
Here in the States about a $100,000 difference. 😮
For the Vette to get this much praise and to even be mentioned in the same breath as this magnificent Porche machine is amazing. Considering the price difference I am sure a Corvette engineer could make this Vette beat just about anything for that extra money.
I just noticed the zo6 doesnt have the quad exhausts in the middle but i stead on both sides of the rear,it must be à modification ofsomesort from the dealership
That's the Euro spec exhaust. It lowers the power down to 630hp instead of 670hp, and gains another 50lbs of weight due to the heavier exhaust equipped with a particulate filter for stricter emissions
Hats off for chevy moving ahead...its good no matter what they do it
Will never be italian or that hyper category..Great car
Put a front splitter and and wing on the vett and try it again
My otherwise stock 2001 Miata with sticky tires and lightweight rims was too much for the road. Performance cars in general are just far far beyond the realm of safety and traffic laws, its really a huge waste of money unless you do track days.
Another one to make the front end stiffer in order to kill the under steer😂
Be careful about the break in period. It must be done properly for the high revving motor...
The Ferrari esk engine noise doea not suit a Corvette?
The zr1 is coming its been a supercar
I didn't think changing exhausts would have made such a stark degradation to the sound, but that's awful. I was expecting it to not be as good, but not shockingly worse. GM direly need to address this issue for their export cars as with the power being down.
still sounds better than any turbo 6 though
Jeez Are those roads NARROW ENOUGH 😂
Normal in small, hilly and rural countries like this.
The exhaust on that 'vette doesn't look right. The one in the video has 2 + 2 pipes on either side of the car. The z06 has 4 tailpipes in the center. Can't shake it.
Too much for the road? Yes they are. Both. At least the Corvette has a boot and can take the needed overnight luggage for you and your sweetheart.
Can you review the SF90XX when released
Hopefully, yes!
failing to mention that the gt3rs is almost twice the price feels like a slight misstep
It's about the same price after import costs. The base c8 in the UK is going for between $120k-160k, plus everyone knows about the US and it's dealership "markup"
The Porsche ~ 0-100 mph / 10.6 seconds sounds slow for 518 brake ! I'm assuming when the aero and wing are not generating downforce there causing much drag.....The GT3 RS is a great car still as is the Z06. Of the two I'd take a rhd Zo6 in gun metal grey........Nice review.
0-100mph It's 6.6 seconds.
0-100-0 is 10.6
@@hope4farda Cheers!
@@CARmagazineTV That sounds more like it. Thanks !
Top quality video - Thanks!
Much appreciated!
What road was this filmed on please?
Bwlch Mountain, Wales
i was super excited then i seen the rs letters and was slightly less excited, people who buy the this rs are 90% just show offs who dont know anything about cars or driving n just go with the hype, or people obsessed with lap times n forget to enjoy driving, but then so are most gt3 owners 😂, the gt3 is the fun n sexy one, n the real competitor to the z06
Last gen Vette was the most attractive vette to this day.