Vegan Fake Meats & Heart Disease, Early Death (study)

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Комментарии • 635

  • @darkhorseman8263
    @darkhorseman8263 14 дней назад +109

    It's made a lot like processed foods, so it's hardly surprising.

  • @Dontlicktheballoons
    @Dontlicktheballoons 14 дней назад +127

    Was a vegitairian from 11yrs old to 34.
    Now I hunt, fish, and grow the majority of my food.
    Thanks to this channel for helping convince me to reintroduce meat.
    Ive not been this clear minded, nor had this level of stamina in twenty years.
    Didn't even notice how off i was.

    • @terryjackson9395
      @terryjackson9395 14 дней назад +16

      This particular Study says Whole Food Plant Based diet is best against all-cause mortality. Its basically a caution against processed food. It also has a chart showing non-processed meat being a little bit worse than Ultra-processed plant-based. And non-processed plant based being the best (Fig 2 of the study)
      But why doesn't Mike talk about that? maybe you should ask yourself.

    • @cas2985
      @cas2985 14 дней назад

      @@terryjackson9395 You just read a comment from a real life testimonial and yet you still think plant food is good. Can’t argue with a moron.

    • @sursomsatan1225
      @sursomsatan1225 14 дней назад +5

      Welcome back

    • @Dontlicktheballoons
      @Dontlicktheballoons 14 дней назад +10

      @@terryjackson9395 I can only speak to how my dietary change has affected me personally, but for myself Im much healthier both mentally and physically now that I eat an omnivorous diet.
      I mean no disrespect, just want to clarify my position and I wish you well.

    • @sportysbusiness
      @sportysbusiness 9 дней назад

      @@terryjackson9395 Because the study doesn't include people who are meat based, only omnivores. I'm a carnivore and the conclusion that whole food plant based is better than omnivore is probably correct due to the healthy user bias. Until there is an animal based versus plant based study, it is impossible to say plant based is better.

  • @matthewdancz9152
    @matthewdancz9152 14 дней назад +103

    The main issue here is nobody is asking why these plant based processed foods cause heart disease problems. In the 70's we identified rapeseed oil as a primary driver of heart disease and banned it sale for human consumption. The Canadians rebranded the oil as Canola oil and have been selling it in America ever since.

    • @dawnelder9046
      @dawnelder9046 14 дней назад +5

      The fake heme was approved on a small study where the best you can saw is the rats did not die. But compared to the control group almost 30 questionable differences during bloodwork and at autopsy.
      Add in several seed oils.

    • @btudrus
      @btudrus 13 дней назад

      "The main issue here is nobody is asking why these plant based processed foods cause heart disease problems."
      Because plants generally do cause heart disease.
      Especially sugar, carbohydrates in general and plant-toxins. So basically every single plant-based "food".
      Eat meat and you will get zero heart disease!

    • @Ntropic
      @Ntropic 3 дня назад +1

      Rapeseed oil is not a upf.

    • @SafeEffective-ls2pl
      @SafeEffective-ls2pl 3 дня назад +3

      @Ntropic Keep consuming industrial lubricants

    • @Ntropic
      @Ntropic 3 дня назад +2

      @@SafeEffective-ls2pl things can have more than one use, the use as a lubricant is based on vicosity and friction not on anything that would be correlated with health. all oils can be used as lubricants and both seed oils and other oils have been used in industry, but are no longer used, because they can get rancid. this is fallacious reasoning.

  • @deborahnagel9011
    @deborahnagel9011 14 дней назад +112

    I keep trying to tell people make real food. Processed foods are crap, stop believing the lies! Thanks for the report !

    • @markwhite6782
      @markwhite6782 14 дней назад +14

      But...but...but Bill Gates said this was good for your health, along with another booster shot.

    • @terryjackson9395
      @terryjackson9395 14 дней назад

      The Study says Whole Food Plant Based diet is best against all-cause mortality

    • @terryjackson9395
      @terryjackson9395 14 дней назад +2

      Couldn't agree more! Whole food plant based for 15 years (maybe once a month I'll eat one of these vegan burgers or a vegan pizza. And very occasional glass of wine) Never felt better.

    • @SafeEffective-ls2pl
      @SafeEffective-ls2pl 3 дня назад

      @terryjackson9395 I eat mostly steaks, ribs, and chicken. Never felt better

    • @TaLeng2023
      @TaLeng2023 2 дня назад

      Yeah, if they REALLY want to eat plant protein in lieu of meat, might as well just cook the plants themselves, or make their own meat subs at home, like seitan (which is just gluten after the starch is washed off bread dough).

  • @mwhite1474
    @mwhite1474 14 дней назад +85

    But Bill Gates says his beyond beef is "safe and effective ". Where have I heard that before?

    • @Lots3say
      @Lots3say 14 дней назад +5

      Right😮!

    • @drewhayward7753
      @drewhayward7753 13 дней назад

      Bill gates is a wanker just look at him really and he claims to be expert on health thay sould band him on talking about any thing

    • @aquavitae3824
      @aquavitae3824 13 дней назад +2

      😂

    • @sscott504
      @sscott504 12 дней назад +1

      ✔️✔️✔️✔️

    • @cantbeaslave
      @cantbeaslave 11 дней назад +6

      He looks great too! Note my sarcasm.

  • @suuismith7620
    @suuismith7620 14 дней назад +42

    Hello from UK, my mother have brought up 7 children with no highly processed foods, free range meats and no pesticides or chemical fertiliser in Malaysia. We didn't have any health problems, also we as children spend alot of time outdoor. When I came over to UK to do nurse training, so call medical professionals, media, government & food corporations has misinformed the people. 2019 I was very ill, GP did not help, I had to search for real information from podcaster like you, thank you. Recovered, now healthy 70 years young grandmother, no longer believe any of the nonsense that this monsters that wants to destroy your health.

  • @robertbeckler5058
    @robertbeckler5058 14 дней назад +75

    Fake meat is fake food?

    • @m.j.debruin3041
      @m.j.debruin3041 14 дней назад

      Yes. And give you fake health and a fake immune system.

    • @btudrus
      @btudrus 14 дней назад

      Plant "food" is fake food...

    • @theghoulgals2474
      @theghoulgals2474 14 дней назад +8

      Who knew?😭😭🤣😭

  • @pamelaevans4076
    @pamelaevans4076 14 дней назад +36

    "We need to look beyond this." I know you didn't do it on purpose but I love a good pun.

  • @anonymoussource7999
    @anonymoussource7999 14 дней назад +99

    Did you hear about hotdog-eating champ Joey Chestnut signing a contract with vegan “Impossible Foods”? Nathan’s has banned him from this year’s competition at Coney Island.

    • @nottheone582
      @nottheone582 14 дней назад

      both are shit foods

    • @yaiburanakul8505
      @yaiburanakul8505 14 дней назад +12

      Hope he does not die as a result of his contract.

    • @mikerude5073
      @mikerude5073 14 дней назад

      He went from eating hotdogs to sucking on them.

    • @thunderchubbs7640
      @thunderchubbs7640 14 дней назад

      Why would they need to ban a vegan from a hot dog eating contest? 🤔

    • @lilascharmante2712
      @lilascharmante2712 14 дней назад +6

      To be fair, all hot dogs aren't healthy.

  • @helpinyerdasellavon
    @helpinyerdasellavon 14 дней назад +40

    Fake and toxic vs real and nutritious is the real problem. Whole healthy foods are the best option regardless if it's vegan/vegetarian or not.

  • @davidrex9592
    @davidrex9592 14 дней назад +107

    No crap. It's like saying eating Doritos is bad. This is common sense.

    • @davidsalvador8989
      @davidsalvador8989 14 дней назад +6

      I was watching some podcast about 6 months ago where the "scientist" said that vegan meat eaters avoided heart issues that regular meat eaters were getting. I thought "bull crap!".

    • @maenad1231
      @maenad1231 14 дней назад +2

      Not _exactly._ I feel like your comparison is half-true though still makes a good point.
      It’s different since fake meat (meat analogues) have legitimate nutritional value in the sense they are not close to being empty calories like Doritos and Oreos. Which one part of the reason Ultra processed junk foods have even worse impact on the body than other ultraprocessed foods.
      However, it’s true they are similar the those junk foods in the sense they are not a whole food _(ex: like steak, fresh fish, lentils, beans)_ nor a minimally processed food _(ex: low fat yogurt, rolled oats, canned veg, canned/pouched fish, bean patty made of pressed beans/veg, tempeh, sauerkraut)_ - which experts agree are health-promoting.
      They don’t even qualify as a regular “processed food” _(okay if not a staple of your diet)_ they fall into the UPF/ultraprocessed food category - which is “ true half” part of the comparison to Doritos.
      Which makes them more similar to either UPFs with nutritional value _(ex: lunch meat, sausages, most frozen dinners whether vegetarian/vegan or containing meat/animal sourced foods)_ and/or some fast food entrees _(ex: from McD, BK, Popeyes)_ rather than junk food snack that’s equally as processed but has no notable nutritional value.
      I don’t eat fast food ever but I will occasionally eat meat analogues especially if I get invited to a BBQ. They can satisfy a rare craving but it’s strange that’s it’s not obvious that they’re meant to be eaten in moderation _(ie; buying a package from the store every couple/few months ideally; there’s not many foods in isolation that can negatively impact a somewhat fit/healthy person if they’re only eating 5-to-26 portions a year)_
      If you wouldn’t eat a whopper every week you shouldn’t eat the impossible whopper every week either. This food is supposed to be usually avoided because it’s a treat/indulgence

    • @robertleinweber4017
      @robertleinweber4017 13 дней назад +4

      Hey, don't pick on Doritos. I love em. Can't stop eating them which is why I don't eat them. That crap is addictive. Also, common sense isn't common,,, anymore.

    • @Ntropic
      @Ntropic 3 дня назад

      The study didn't even look at plant meats, the headlines and this video are bs. They looked at plant based upfs, mostly pasta, cakes and breads. Meat replacements were only 0.2%. this doesn't say anything about them

    • @SafeEffective-ls2pl
      @SafeEffective-ls2pl 3 дня назад +1

      @Ntropic You keep consuming things made in labs.

  • @straightedgeveganbel2453
    @straightedgeveganbel2453 14 дней назад +26

    Junk food is junk food. Don't eat junk food!

    • @btudrus
      @btudrus 13 дней назад

      Any plant-based "food' is junk...

  • @Leyanore
    @Leyanore 13 дней назад +7

    To answer your question, I'm watching from Bosnia and Herzegovina. I've been watching your channel since the pandemic. Pretty cool topics, thank you for being consistent and professional with uploads!😊

  • @justjosie8963
    @justjosie8963 14 дней назад +99

    What a suprise......not.

    • @wiz7650
      @wiz7650 14 дней назад

      I mean yeah, processed foods usually are bad for your health regardless of being vegan or not.

  • @deborahmichele
    @deborahmichele 14 дней назад +23

    This falls under "when you don't really know, but you know". Anything ultra processed was never going to turn out to be good for us! But aaahhh. "food frequency questionnaire" - oy

  • @user-qq5du7iv4t
    @user-qq5du7iv4t 14 дней назад +174

    Never interfere with Darwin when he is doing his best work. Fake meat gets expected results, let it happen, let nature take its course.

  • @LopsidedAdventures
    @LopsidedAdventures 14 дней назад +10

    Nothing beats real food. That's the only way to go if you want to be healthy.

  • @Ntropic
    @Ntropic 3 дня назад +8

    Your video misses the study as much as the news articles. The study investigated plant based upf's, only 0.2% of those were plant meats, the category was mostly filled by cakes and other sweet meals. They did not separate into plant meats at all. The effect of processed plant products was similar to unprocessed animal products. This is rubbish.

  • @McCaffreyPickleball
    @McCaffreyPickleball 14 дней назад +24

    The percent of dietary contribution of "mock meats" was 0.2%.
    Do you think you may be drawing conclusions about the health outcomes of mock meats a little prematurely?

    • @soylentgreenb
      @soylentgreenb 7 дней назад +7

      Yes. Absolutely awful take. Key takeaways from this study is: error bars too big to really say much of anything but the weak indications it offers is that donuts (vegan UPF) is worse for you than brown rice (vegan unprocessed food) and unprocessed meat is about as bad as vegan junk food.

    • @McCaffreyPickleball
      @McCaffreyPickleball 6 дней назад +1

      @user-vo9wd6tx6c the quote is from the study... He didn't read that part in his video.

  • @doejohn8674
    @doejohn8674 14 дней назад +9

    Garbage in garbage out, the same questionnaire study showed that "keto" doesn't help with diabetes (but there are much better studies that show around 50% remission).
    You can basically prove whatever you want with a questionnaire study.
    (And no, I am not a vegetarian, I eat meat or fish every day).

  • @druelleb9620
    @druelleb9620 11 дней назад +3

    Thanks for this! I've been vegan 15yrs now, medical professionals even question my age.. I stay away from that processed stuff and I move my body every day. But when people find out I'm vegan more often than not they say "oh that's why you are so healthy or slim". ALL THE TIME! People assume plant based = healthy. Not these days... More and more processed junk coming out all the time..

  • @ch1cksng3r
    @ch1cksng3r 14 дней назад +26

    Eating ANYTHING processed, plant based or otherwise, is not good!
    And loving the werewolf look 😁

    • @terryjackson9395
      @terryjackson9395 14 дней назад +5

      The study actually shows Non-processed meat to be a little worse than Ultra-processed plant-based foods for heart disease. With non-processed plant-based foods being much better than both (Fig. 2 of the study)
      Here's the study"
      "Implications of food ultra-processing on cardiovascular risk considering plant origin foods: an analysis of the UK Biobank cohort"

    • @btudrus
      @btudrus 14 дней назад

      " Eating ANYTHING processed, plant based or otherwise, is not good!"
      Eating anything plant-based, processed or not is BAD...

    • @ArgosySpecOps
      @ArgosySpecOps 14 дней назад +4

      Warewolf? More like Gambit from the X-Men.

    • @ch1cksng3r
      @ch1cksng3r 13 дней назад

      @@btudrus the jury is still out.

    • @btudrus
      @btudrus 13 дней назад

      @@ch1cksng3r "the jury is still out"
      There is no jury, LOL.
      There is just a tons of vegan/religious propaganda which has in the past 150 years completely trashed the scientific literature with this "plant-based" bullshit...

  • @lonewolf30531
    @lonewolf30531 14 дней назад +20

    Gates behind this .

    • @Zizzyyzz
      @Zizzyyzz 14 дней назад +9

      Yeeup. Eugenics Burgers.

  • @terryjackson9395
    @terryjackson9395 14 дней назад +10

    Literally this study shows whole food plant based diet has lowest mortality. Don't spin it otherwise...
    Study says Whole Food Plant Based diet is best, and there's harm in all ultra-processed food diets vs whole food plant based..
    Quote:
    "Plant-sourced non-UPF may be associated with a lower risk of CVD. These results support the notion to improve CVD health outcomes with a shift towards plant-sourced food choices that consider the degree of food processing. Our findings also demonstrated that the relationship between the dietary contribution of non-red meat (all foods, except red meat) and CVD risk depended on whether it underwent ultra-processing or not."
    Researchers found that for every 10% increase in plant-based foods, the risk of death from heart disease fell by 20%. Yet, when the increase in plant-based foods came from UPFs, it was linked to a 12%rise in heart disease-related deaths.
    Lead study author Fernanda Rauber explained that the composition and processing methods of UPFs can lead to higher blood pressure and cholesterol.
    (yes cholesterol)

    • @GarudaLegends
      @GarudaLegends 14 дней назад

      Meanwhile meat eaters live vastly longer than vegans and have the best life expectancy. no sane person cares about this fake meat or an unhealthy vegan diet.

    • @paulcallicoat7597
      @paulcallicoat7597 14 дней назад

      You are doing a good job of spreading the lies that were paid for by the big food and pharma corporations. I'm all for getting up my cholesterol and my bp is a lot less than it was eating the sad.

    • @laurendamasoruiz
      @laurendamasoruiz 8 дней назад

      Of course, Darwin said that in the first 4 minutes. I can’t speak for everyone else here but I have no problem with eating fruit and vegetables. What I do have a problem with is junk-products pretending to be healthy by advertising themselves as vegan. No-one should be eating that crap

    • @soylentgreenb
      @soylentgreenb 7 дней назад

      Booze is a 4 times larger component of vegan UPF than vegan fake meats and all the error bars overlap between the categories, meaning it has no resolving power to say anything with a reasonable level of confidence. Worthless study.

    • @BM1982.V2
      @BM1982.V2 2 дня назад

      Also plant based meats only made up 0.2% of the UPFs so you can't form any conclusions on that. It's mostly cookies, cakes, pastries, alcohol, and soft drinks. It's the most duh study ever but bad faith actors like this are totally misrepresenting the data and banking on the general public not having scientific literacy to actually go read the study and find out how bad these youtubers and the media are.

  • @bludog4657
    @bludog4657 14 дней назад +12

    Love the short Mike. Keep preaching!! Love from New Mexico

    • @soylentgreenb
      @soylentgreenb 7 дней назад +1

      Preaching is the correct word. Neither you nor he even read the study. Huge error bars. 0.2% vegan fake meats. Unprocessed meat about as bad as vegan UPF (think donuts, potato chips and other truly awful junk); but again, huge error bars.

  • @MindControll
    @MindControll 14 дней назад +18

    Interesting how you just gloss over how it says plant based diets are associated with lower cardiovascular disease risk.

    • @noellesnow186
      @noellesnow186 11 дней назад +5

      The Govt still wants you to eat breakfast cereals, which we know is ALL SUGAR. SO BAD for you.

    • @brianf761
      @brianf761 4 дня назад +1

      I would argue that it is clearly pointed out that any diet based on whole foods is superior to a diet based on ultra processed. I would also urge anybody to base their diet on what works for them.

    • @Phlakaton88
      @Phlakaton88 4 дня назад

      Vegetable based diets have a higher rate of diabetes and insulin resistance. Shrug. Meat only cures that. Bloodwork doesn’t lie. For me at least.

    • @shanenice5380
      @shanenice5380 5 часов назад

      ​@noellesnow186 there's good cereal is pure cane sugar ill eat that just in the morning

  • @Bonsqueesquee
    @Bonsqueesquee 14 дней назад +21

    I tried that diet and I felt my absolute worst, not even spirituality could save me. My hormones went wild! The last processed fake meat I checked the ingredients on the back of, "meat free meat" Canola Oil and flour. Those were the ingredients.

    • @peterpan408
      @peterpan408 14 дней назад +6

      That's how you make it.. flour/tofu, oil, other stuff.

    • @Zizzyyzz
      @Zizzyyzz 14 дней назад +8

      🤢

  • @humbertopedraza147
    @humbertopedraza147 14 дней назад +21

    Not surprised, but good job reporting 👏

    • @soylentgreenb
      @soylentgreenb 7 дней назад

      This is called confirmation bias. If you read the study, 0.2% of foods were vegan fake meats. Vegan UPF is potato chips, donuts, peanut M&Ms, pastries, soft drinks, booze (!), sugar frosted flakes, margarine, pre-sliced bread and similar junk. Real, unprocessed meat did about as poorly as vegan UPF (think donuts and M&Ms and such garbage) and *all* the error bars overlapped so there's no statistical resolving power there anyone.

  • @AnneMB955
    @AnneMB955 14 дней назад +14

    First time I’ve heard this study and the findings. Makes so much sense. Whole, natural food consumer here. 🙋‍♀️🇦🇺

    • @soylentgreenb
      @soylentgreenb 7 дней назад

      If you actually read the study it says nothing about vegan fake meats (0.2% of foods in study) and it says vegan UPF (donuts, prepackaged bread, vegetable oil based sauces, margerine, pre-packaged sliced bread, ketchup etc) is as bad for you as real unprocessed meat. And all the error bars overlap so it doesn't even tell you this with any meaningful level of certainty.

  • @djmikio
    @djmikio 14 дней назад +16

    I've watched friends who've alternately followed either a carnivore or vegan diet and benefitted. The commonality was that they avoided sugar, starchy carbs, and process foods, as part of their strategy.

    • @peterv1436
      @peterv1436 14 дней назад +7

      How do you avoid starchy carbs on a wholefood vegan diet without being severly protein deficient? All of the natural plant foods that are considered high in protein have relatively more starch than protein in them by at least 3 to 1, not to mention that protein is poorer quality and less bioavailable than that from animal sources. Without consuming some sort of highly processed protein isolate it is impossible to get sufficient protein and not consume massive amounts of carbs on a vegan diet.

    • @lat1419
      @lat1419 14 дней назад +2

      In the short term. Fasting is also helpful, but intermittently not permanently!

    • @djmikio
      @djmikio 14 дней назад +1

      @@peterv1436 Well I'm no vegan but I think their reasoning is that if you are eating slow glycemic uptake, slow release sources the high starch to protein ratio is acceptable. I certainly know a couple of vegans who have been quite healthy for decades even if I wouldn't want to try it myself.

    • @cloudoftime
      @cloudoftime 14 дней назад

      They avoided starchy carbs? How are starchy carbs bad for you exactly?

    • @djmikio
      @djmikio 14 дней назад

      @@cloudoftime Most grains, almost all grain-based flour, as well as other fast uptake carbs induce postprandial glucose spikes, or rapid increases in blood sugar after eating, increasing ROS production, which interferes with blood vessel control and increases inflammation. Over the past couple of decades, a lot of research has been connecting this process to more and more of the health challenges of modern humanity.

  • @sandral5086
    @sandral5086 4 дня назад +3

    If you listen to vegan doctors instead of vegan influencers they have been saying fake meat is is not food and don’t promote it at all. It’s a processed food so it would have the same effect as any other processed food

  • @markwhite6782
    @markwhite6782 14 дней назад +12

    This is looked at in a positive manner. Just one more example of big food creating more wealth for big pharma and the medical industrial complex.

    • @acfanter
      @acfanter 14 дней назад

      Gates Fnd, WHO & WEF big into pushing the no meat messages…
      Climate lies, culling healthy animals. It’s more like
      Impossible to Remain Alive Foods

    • @BrendaHeld
      @BrendaHeld 14 дней назад +1

      That's exactly 💯% TRUTH and what it's All about! Keeping people ill and MAKING MONEY!

  • @user-iv8jq7dd9y
    @user-iv8jq7dd9y 14 дней назад +4

    It may not seem like much, but walk-in place or around your house is a good way to stay active too. Doesn't have to be complicated.

    • @gohawks3571
      @gohawks3571 11 дней назад +1

      If you have the space, hula hooping has been great for me (got when I had funny hours & couldn't go for my regular walks). They seem on par with walking, and you can watch TV! Also got because it was the quietest for living upstairs 👍 Just adding an option 🤗

  • @aisbcatering831
    @aisbcatering831 День назад +3

    Tell me you didn't read the study without teling me,you didn't read the study

  • @leelindsay5618
    @leelindsay5618 14 дней назад +4

    Its like cattle on "AMP" Adaptive Multi-Paddock grazing can not only increase diversity in pasture plants, wildlife habitat, and cooling because of increased ground cover, it also increases water infiltration into the soil and ground water percolation into aquifers and lateral movement of water in the soil into streams (protecting topsoil and filtering water through soil), but the cattle are walking pro-biotic factories that mulch grasses and forbs in 12-24hrs and feed soil life and create new topsoil while producing high quality protein that is rich in Omega 3s (more than in wild caught salmon) and other phytonutrients (unlike feedlot cattle). Plus its a common practice in Regenerative Agriculture to follow cattle with sheep, and birds and even pigs where the exact same acreage can produce meat, milk, eggs, leather, wool, bacon, and even honey and wildlife..... Understanding Ag has the scientific studies.

  • @gon7155
    @gon7155 14 дней назад +15

    Safe and effective.

  • @doristhayer8317
    @doristhayer8317 14 дней назад +5

    Good Lord! FAKE is FAKE! Is dangerous and will ALWAYS WILL BE!

  • @nbrown5907
    @nbrown5907 14 дней назад +1

    Who is honestly surprised by this? Hello from Illinois. Remember all of the fast food breaded chicken has no more than 50% actual chicken meat in it. I do not know what the fillers are but if they are plant based all of the breaded chicken would raise your risk. Be careful it is a minefield out here.

  • @R27035
    @R27035 14 дней назад +4

    What's surprising is that mainstream media is reporting this.

    • @sursomsatan1225
      @sursomsatan1225 14 дней назад +1

      They'll correct their mistake soon by producing a plethora of articles about how bad meat is.

    • @nokieng6502
      @nokieng6502 14 дней назад +1

      Reported on the Lancet, not the American Medical Conglomerate 😃😃👍

    • @R27035
      @R27035 14 дней назад +1

      @@nokieng6502 New York Post, Daily Mail and other lamestream media as well.

    • @soylentgreenb
      @soylentgreenb 7 дней назад

      What's not surprising is that they lied about what the study actually said. The study says nothing about vegan fake meats (0.2% of total foods), the bulk part of the vegan UPF category was chips, cookies, margarine, candy, breakfast cereals, soft drinks, pre-sliced bread, pretzels, "industrial pizza" etc. What it also says is that non-vegan UPF (steak, eggs etc) did as poorly as vegan UPF. But all the error bars overlap anyway so it doesn't even tell you that. They made up a lie and ran with it, now you took up the lie and kept spreading it.

  • @1xm_mx1
    @1xm_mx1 14 дней назад +6

    "Let them eat fake meat and bugs!" - WEF

    • @SpamMouse
      @SpamMouse 14 дней назад +1

      Bugs deep-fried in seed oils ! 🐜🐜🐜

  • @peterpan408
    @peterpan408 14 дней назад +8

    I think everyone knows artificial processed food (usually plant-based because meat is expensive) is not to be eaten.
    So dont eat them.

    • @terryjackson9395
      @terryjackson9395 14 дней назад +2

      Well, to be honest, the study actually shows Non-processed meat to be a little worse than Ultra-processed plant-based foods! (at least for heart disease). With non-processed plant-based foods being much better than both (Fig. 2 of the study).
      But Mike didn't mention that. Guess he just forgot.

    • @NaturalBornWinner-
      @NaturalBornWinner- 14 дней назад

      ​@@terryjackson9395Non processed meat such as steak you mean? Yes steak is high in protein and other nutrients, and good for the health 🥩😋

    • @soylentgreenb
      @soylentgreenb 7 дней назад +1

      Did any of you actually read the study? Plant-based meats are essentially not part of the study (0.2% of total). It is comparing things like donuts and sliced bread (vegan UPF) to things like brown rice and cabbage (vegan non-UPF) to things like steak (non-vegan non-UPF) to things like salami and canned spray cheese (non-vegan UPF). What it finds is that non-vegan UPF is as bad as vegan UPF and the error bars all overlap so the significance is extremely low.

  • @jessicaparker1940
    @jessicaparker1940 День назад +2

    Why is pasta on the list of ‘unprocessed’ and butter considered ‘processed’? Pasta is made with flour which is highly processed (no mention of bread on the list at all)

  • @pleaserespond3984
    @pleaserespond3984 14 дней назад +2

    The nova classification seems completely useless. A can of boiled pasteurised chickpeas would be nova-1. But if they had a pinch of salt added, it instantly bumps them to nova-3. Even though when I cook with them I would add salt as needed, so the two cans do not result in any difference in the final dish.

  • @lindad6223
    @lindad6223 14 дней назад +5

    why am I not surprised?

  • @ralomicron
    @ralomicron 13 дней назад +1

    Butter is high in omega 3... study shows that beef fat is liver protective, and butter comes from beef in the long way. As long as we are getting quality, it might actually be better that olive oil

  • @Lennythewinner
    @Lennythewinner 14 дней назад +3

    Re chocolate, I would expect that it's the inclusion of sugar (though there are many chocolate varieties with little, even no, sugar). Referring to chocolate as 'processed' would pertain to the fact that cocoa butter needs to heated to a little above 40 degrees Celsius to completely melt all the crystallized fatty acids naturally present in the raw cocoa butter, then allowed to cool to around 27 degrees to enable the formation of the 'crisp' crystal structure that gives chocolate its 'snap', agitated to break down other any other crystal types, and then allowed to cool very slowly (hence over some time) to ensure the optimal snap. The Wikipedia page gives a good explanation of how chocolate is made.
    Of course there are some that have, for example, other plant-sourced oils added (typically other saturated ones) in order to reduce the proportion of [more expensive] cocoa butter, or, say, added candy pieces. But much proper chocolate comprises just cocoa butter, cocoa solids (what we know of as cocoa nibs or powder), an amount of sugar (dependent on the variety), plus a small amount of lecithin to help make the melted chocolate 'flow' more easily into the shaping molds. In fact the amount of added lecithin is necessarily low, as more than just a very small percent - possibly even as little as just one half a percent - would start to have the opposite effect on the chocolate's fluidity. Let's remember that organic pasture-raised eggs also contain lecithin (albeit an animal form), but we do not get overly concerned about the effect that *this* might have on our microbiome or other organs and functions.

    • @btudrus
      @btudrus 13 дней назад

      Chocolate is very high in oxalates which slowly poison your body...

  • @UnknownUser-sc6jx
    @UnknownUser-sc6jx 14 дней назад +9

    I remember when I was 14 people were eating veggie burgers I'm now in my 30s these processed plant based junk foods have been around for a long time they're full of refined oils and carbohydrate toxic and not human food .

    • @lilascharmante2712
      @lilascharmante2712 14 дней назад +1

      The old kinds weren't so bad, I remember making black beans burgers. They were completely different from Beyond meat, the old vegan burgers used real legumes and vegetables. They were high carb though

    • @someguy4967
      @someguy4967 13 дней назад

      If you ate say a veggie dog versus a meat hot dog you’re still better off. These foods are about context. If they are replacing processed meats it’s better overall.

    • @alleyoop5185
      @alleyoop5185 7 дней назад

      @@someguy4967that depends on what’s in each of them

    • @soylentgreenb
      @soylentgreenb 7 дней назад

      This is called confirmation bias. If you read the study, 0.2% of the foods were vegan fake meats. Vegan UPF is potato chips, donuts, vegetable oil based sauces, ketchup and other such junk.All the error bars overlapped and real (tm) unprocessed meat did as poorly as vegan junk food.

  • @Undomaranel
    @Undomaranel 14 дней назад +5

    Huh, overly processed foods are bad for you, eh?

  • @chqshaitan1
    @chqshaitan1 10 дней назад

    Great video, as ever , its not so much the headline contents of the food, but the amount of processing that they have undertaken

  • @EduardQualls
    @EduardQualls 14 дней назад +18

    @16:08 "Just because something is derived from plants doesn't mean it's healthy..." You mean things like cyanide? _The fruitarians aren't gonna be happy..._

    • @btudrus
      @btudrus 14 дней назад

      Just because something is derived from plants, it is unhealthy!

    • @someguy4967
      @someguy4967 13 дней назад

      You say that like fruitarians are cracking open apple seeds and eating them like that lol. If you ate a seed whole as dense as an apple seed you’d just pass it as nature intended

    • @scotlynhatt
      @scotlynhatt 13 дней назад

      The dosage makes the poison.

    • @btudrus
      @btudrus 12 дней назад

      @@scotlynhatt "The dosage makes the poison."
      Even a small dosis does harm you...

    • @scotlynhatt
      @scotlynhatt 12 дней назад

      @@btudrus what doesn't kill you makes you stronger.

  • @Roberto-cg2gr
    @Roberto-cg2gr 14 дней назад +4

    Please discuss more research on prolonged fasting and effect on different metabolic diseases

  • @KungFuChess
    @KungFuChess 2 дня назад +3

    Now I realize why The Beyond Burger packaging looks like a box of baby wipes.

    • @shanenice5380
      @shanenice5380 5 часов назад

      Wow u not kidding lol.i take notice

  • @jenkroll3298
    @jenkroll3298 14 дней назад +3

    From north arkansas...love your videos, thank you

  • @doristhayer8317
    @doristhayer8317 14 дней назад +2

    Right, "processed" is the key word!

  • @Draw4Dame
    @Draw4Dame 11 дней назад +1

    16:48 If his issue is plantar fasciitis and not literally broken feet I’d recommend the backwards walk and progression to backwards sled pulls Kneesovertoes guy does. Game changer

  • @phfay7
    @phfay7 14 дней назад +1

    Common sense that processed food is bad. Lets check risks of processed meat to processed vegan. That would be a study worth reading.

  • @MsNerdsRevenge
    @MsNerdsRevenge 5 часов назад

    Many of us opposed this. Now it's an issue. The heart for me is Pistol Pete. Why? It was his Palace turned into a makeshift Hospital for hurricane Katrina. He passed from a blocked artery. I'm almost certain it was the left side.

  • @lordrefrigeratorintercoole288
    @lordrefrigeratorintercoole288 14 дней назад +15

    just eat real food, doesn't matter if vegan, keto, pescaterian or whatever....

    • @lawrencekniser8555
      @lawrencekniser8555 2 дня назад

      Yes, it does matter because veganism is not sustainable diet for human beings do your homework pal

  • @silvabakx6396
    @silvabakx6396 3 дня назад

    22-26 grams of protein per $1 can of beans (pressure cooked which eliminates harmful lectins). 22 grams of protein in a $2 tin of sardines. 24 grams of protein in 4 eggs

  • @dmeyer-iu8zg
    @dmeyer-iu8zg 14 дней назад +5

    Great study
    Only eat whole foods
    listening from Shitcago, Hellinois

    • @suzanneroche2615
      @suzanneroche2615 14 дней назад

      🌼🌼🌼

    • @soylentgreenb
      @soylentgreenb 7 дней назад

      Terrible study. Vegan fake meats were 0.2% of the total food consumed. Vegan UPF is things like donuts and pre-packaged bread. Even booze was 0.8% of vegan UPF and 4 times bigger than the vegan fake meats category. The vegan UPF (again, think donuts not beyond burger) was as bad as non-UPF non-vegan food (think steak, chicken and eggs). All the error bars overlap so it cannot even say anything confidently.

  • @marik8624
    @marik8624 14 дней назад +1

    Sharing this

  • @Trafficaloco
    @Trafficaloco 4 дня назад

    Thank you 😊

  • @briancossey4773
    @briancossey4773 2 часа назад

    I eat almost NO processed foods.
    I've eliminated as much sugar as possible.
    Working on growing as much of my vegetables as possible with strict control on any fertilizer I might use.
    Will not use anything GMO.
    As far as meats go, sooner or later I will be raising that myself, again keeping an eye to anything I might feed it and making sure no hormones or "vaccinations" are used.
    If I do fry anything, it is usually with either butter or olive oil; have taken to air frying.

  • @jenniferdurant3026
    @jenniferdurant3026 14 дней назад +2

    Audio sounds good

  • @katnez
    @katnez 14 дней назад +2

    My ldl skyrocketed after eating frozen fake chicken on a regular basis! Crazy now I found all these RUclips truth videos. I’ll never do that again. I’m not even vegan but thought I’d be “healthier” joke

  • @healthycarnivore
    @healthycarnivore 14 дней назад

    I would love the creatinine and electrolyte powder but didn’t see a plain no added sweeteners. Do you or will you be making one? Fake sugars off set my gut biome

  • @exploringwithdave5926
    @exploringwithdave5926 11 дней назад +1

    He's right. One stick of butter a day is no good, that's why I eat at least two. For reals

  • @NewMinority
    @NewMinority 14 дней назад +1

    who would have thought! theres me thinking big food and corporations cared for our health? I'm shocked!

  • @lharestad6804
    @lharestad6804 14 дней назад +4

    Hear ya!

  • @beardumaw24
    @beardumaw24 14 дней назад +2

    Humans are not ment to eat prossessed foods plant based or not !

  • @tammyicious
    @tammyicious 11 дней назад

    I shop at an organic market in my area, MOM's Organic Market, I never buy the plant-based items. I enjoy my organic grass-fed beef. I make a hamburger (no bun), fried in butter, just salt and pepper, and it taste like a steak my friends. 😋

  • @GhostRider-ce3eb
    @GhostRider-ce3eb 14 дней назад +4

    veganism is an animal right movement, not a healthy diet...so if you want to do both eat whole not processed food!

    • @terryjackson9395
      @terryjackson9395 14 дней назад +4

      It's both. Vegans/vegetarians live 7-12 years longer than general populations (women 7, men 12). Which may be simply because they tend to eat healthier in general, even WITH occasional veggie burgers eaten. But Methionine-restriction, heme-restriction and less TMAO, HCAs and PAHs may be a factor too.
      So far there's been no evidence that 'grass fed' carnivore will increase lifespan, and increasing those things mentioned above would lead one to believe not. But weight loss and getting off processed foods can definitely make one feel better, even if their life isn't extended.

  • @katnez
    @katnez 14 дней назад +2

    So many are frozen processed & preservative along w bad oils

  • @augiearreola5191
    @augiearreola5191 11 дней назад

    Just liked and subbed. I'm wondering why you don't mention Olive oil. Is it intensional? I thought that was the top of the best oils to cook with.

  • @trixieknits
    @trixieknits 14 дней назад

    Salinas, San Juan Bautista, Fresno, Gilroy all also produce A LOT OF FOOD.

  • @user-gx4uc8my3n
    @user-gx4uc8my3n 14 дней назад +6

    if a meal has no whole food animal products, its a waste of time in my opinion

  • @allynesommer9145
    @allynesommer9145 10 часов назад

    Germany. Dual citizen with USA. Processed food is processed food no matter what. And I rather enjoy my real BLT a few times a year as supposed to eating fake cheese, meats, etc. Not a daily meat eater anyway and very comfortable with a vegtarian diet. So eggs, butter and cheese and milk and chicken a few times a week. Lots of nuts, seeds, legumes. Fruits and veggies.

  • @TheMrsMenes
    @TheMrsMenes 12 дней назад

    Viande&Co is a new artisanal plant based meat that has no artificial colors, flavors or fillers. It has more real produce than any alternative meat product out there. It is small batch, formed by hand and is almost as versatile as a cut from your favorite butcher.

  • @foxdylan9536
    @foxdylan9536 14 дней назад +3

    What a shock, UPF’s are bad, doesn’t make meat any healthier, the best diet is a plant based, whole food diet.

    • @aliendroneservices6621
      @aliendroneservices6621 14 дней назад

      Yes, because PBWF diets *_reliably create more ex-vegans_* than any other.

    • @terryjackson9395
      @terryjackson9395 14 дней назад +2

      This particular study actually shows that ultra-processed plant-based diet being a little better than NON-processed meat (for CVD deaths). And that's a diet of mostly fries, pastries, soda, chips etc (Only 1/5 of 1 percent was actually meat alternatives).
      But who on here actually reads studies LOL.

  • @revolutionfrommahbed4246
    @revolutionfrommahbed4246 2 дня назад

    I went mostly meatless for a while in the late 90s early 2000s. While I was going through a health crisis in 2006 my body DEMANDED meat - RED meat and I’m now what I like to call “Keto-vore.” Or a MOSTLY MEAT diet 🤣. But while I was more vegetarian leaning, I became skeptical of all the “meatless” and “dairy free” substitute “foods.” It didn’t seem like FOOD. I’ve often said if you’re vegetarian/vegan but you’re eating fake burgers/hots etc - you aren’t REALLY vegetarian and it’s certainly not about health 🤷🏼‍♀️

  • @winstonslone2797
    @winstonslone2797 3 дня назад

    I stopped putting this poison in my body about 2 months ago. Just water, fish, lean meat and chicken, rice and vegetables and fruit. I didn't need to loose weight but staying with my regular exercise routine and not eating junk I lost 12lbs and feel great

  • @Lennythewinner
    @Lennythewinner 14 дней назад +1

    Hi Mike, when showing tables from papers (as at around 11 min 30 seconds in), please don't keep moving the graphic up and down the screen, because this makes it difficult and, more seriously, very uncomfortable to focus on the depicted data. Please bear this in mind for your future great talks. Thank you.

  • @captainnoyaux
    @captainnoyaux 14 дней назад +1

    a link to the study would be amazing for simplicity :)

    • @BM1982.V2
      @BM1982.V2 2 дня назад

      He wouldn't do that because then it would show how he and many of the media misrepresented the data. Fake meats only made up 0.2% of the ultra processed category. It was mostly cakes, pastries, cookies, alcohol, soft drinks. You can't form conclusions based on 0.2% inclusion.
      The study also showed non processed plant foods to be better than non processed animal foods so he wouldn't want people to learn the truth there.

  • @CyberChud2077
    @CyberChud2077 14 дней назад +2

    Beyond healthy.

  • @nancyhoward2876
    @nancyhoward2876 День назад

    Dark chocolate is good for you - in moderation because chocolate has heavy metals in it. I eat Ghirardelli 86^ cacao bars.

  • @webstertyrrell9412
    @webstertyrrell9412 4 дня назад

    I'm from Texas, but I'm listening in the Philippines.

  • @rxcoco12
    @rxcoco12 14 дней назад +1

    What about plant based folks that eat only real food?? Plant based that eat processed food having heart troubles is not a surprise.

  • @AnthonyTrifoglio
    @AnthonyTrifoglio День назад +1

    I'd love to hear how butter is bad

  • @ajaaoka6364
    @ajaaoka6364 День назад

    Shocking that heavily processed components stripped of most of its source fiber and nutrients is also devoid of any health benefits.
    I'll keep my home made soy burgers and have my meat for special occasions.

  • @laurendamasoruiz
    @laurendamasoruiz 8 дней назад

    It should be illegal to use the word ‘plant’ anywhere near these products. Unless it’s “these were constructed down at the plant”

  • @davidtirschman6288
    @davidtirschman6288 2 дня назад +1

    Thank you for your video. When I think of fake foods o feel an impossible burger is something I have no interest in eating. Thre concoction of ingredients and chemicals is about as beneficial as eating regular junk food. I don't want to ever try this. I had a couple eggs and strips of bacon and then will have a little meat later tonight . I do fasting for the rest of the day.

  • @zene2550
    @zene2550 14 дней назад +1

    To be fair only a small percentage of energy intake came from vegan meat it was mostly other stuff. I saw critiques on Twitter

  • @forrestlong7898
    @forrestlong7898 13 дней назад +4

    I’m a pescatarian and I believe it because ultra processed meat replacements have coconut and palm oil

  • @SSStofu008
    @SSStofu008 2 дня назад +1

    Vegan meat was 0.2% off the total calories they got more calories from alcohol
    How does this tell you ANYTHING about meat alts

  • @danielscarbrough4363
    @danielscarbrough4363 12 дней назад +1

    I chose plant free, my FOOD eats the plants.

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    @shriekitsallie 14 дней назад +46

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  • @gohawks3571
    @gohawks3571 11 дней назад

    I got into faux meats because of the pandemic. I saw the piles of potatoes and whatnot and thought, they aren't gonna show the animal piles☠️ So I checked out vegan meats, but like how I live regularly, I made my own for the most part. Or learned substitutes like mushrooms. It has been interesting, and did save us on occasion. But I do still eat meat. I simply thought there would be an insane deficit. I am absolutely amazed at how the farms have been supported and did not collapse with the whole pandemic situation (I'm sure stuff happened that I don't know about). This was governmental wealth actually used properly for once!
    I guess my original point was, it's not terrible to check out how to make your own faux meats. Great for if you don't have power or something; an emergency situation. Or for camping 🤷‍♀️

  • @m.j.debruin3041
    @m.j.debruin3041 14 дней назад +10

    Like if you already know that we thrive on the carnivore way of eating.

  • @JappaKneads
    @JappaKneads 14 дней назад +14

    Distraction from the jab...

    • @-astrangerontheinternet6687
      @-astrangerontheinternet6687 14 дней назад +2

      Everyone was getting sick way before that intervention.
      Improved metabolic health from an appropriate diet prevents damage from virus and poisoning agents.

  • @Thoughtpologetics
    @Thoughtpologetics 14 дней назад

    Nebraska has the best beef, plenty of land to graze, and fun fact, the soil is some of the richest in the US leading to healthy strong plants, eaten by cows, producing the best beef