Noob's Guide to Modding Suspension!
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- Опубликовано: 26 июл 2024
- Adjustable or Non Adjustable? Linear or Progressive Springs? STATIC OR BAGGED? AIR OR HYDRAULICS? In the automotive world, how you ride (literally) can determine a lot about your vehicle. Suspension affects how it corners, reacts to bumps, how it makes aerodynamics bend around, but most importantly...how it sits!! So GET LOW, GET LOW. Or get High too, I guess whatever is your preference. Get ready to squat, dance, bounce, bog, and prepare your booty for whatever ride the road is about to give you.
Believe me when I say Coils change the way your car ride. It can make a derpy Mustang with garbage OEM suspension feel like a whole new car! Sporty, reactive, better center of gravity, better aero, and way less wheel spin. It squats less when accelerating and bogs less when braking. Clumsy begins to feel sharp and lazy begins to feel focused. I'm honestly shocked how Fitment from both a wheel and suspension standpoint were the last mods I ever got around to on both of my vehicles. Seriously, my poor Corvette and Mustang had to suffer with massive 4x4 looking wheel gap, but now look at em. Ahhh, that's hot. They're so pretty now. BuT BLadED? hOW cAN uR mUsTAnG LoOk PReTTy oN LoWeReD CoiLS iF iT'S GoNE?
I said it was involved in an accident so brutal it was considered a total loss by insurance... but I never once said...it was gone :)
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“Disadvantages of magnetic suspension: Give up your first born child” LOL I LOST IT RIGHT THERE!! Bladed, your tutorials are so funny and really useful, it always makes learning things about cars so much fun.
Just at work i thought "I hope Bladed does a new noobs guide or history of freaking car video again" and then I get home and there it is.
You’ve talked it into existence my friend
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It's not that expensive lol just nearly $1,800 for my Audi RIP
Don't cheap out on coilovers, they can be worse that stock of you go too cheap. You can also get more adjustability with the more expensive ones as well.
Honestly a $1K Coilover setup is still leagues ahead of a worn out OEM strut setup. For High mileage old used cars, I think even cheap-mid range coils are still fine. The cheapest coils are still better than the best springs, since I'd rather have a new assembly than keep wearing my OEM one. As for a new car, OEM suspension has gotten so advanced with adjustability, that yeah some Coilovers are far worse than OEM (on top of New Cars being low mileage so nothing is worn yet).
@@BladedAngel true, especially if it is a 20 year old car with blown out struts. Just something to keep in mind. 1K is about where I think a good starting point. Brands like Feal suspension or BC Coilovers typically start there.
@@jaydenray2803 Yeah, I'm on BC Racing for da Stang, it runs fine for now. Anything was better than my literal lack of functioning struts/control arms on my Driver's side (Cause duh, a truck slammed into it). But I'd say $1K is a great budget starter to get into a low-mid to mid range. OFC I would never tell someone AY YOOOO, GO GET EM $300 eBAY COILS BROOOOOOOOO! I can already foresee nothing good coming from that.
@@BladedAngel lol, BC's are the way I went too. Good stuff.
Straight style on fools at your local car meet 😂 couldn’t have said it better myself
6:05 Thats not always true, there are Coilovers like the KW Clubsport, who are compatible with the adjustible OEM System, so you can adjust them with the onboard computer. But they are super expensive compared the normal mid tier coilovers
noted.
My moms moms dads grandpas uncles aunts grandmas moms moms friend friend friends moms dogs cat owns a Supra with air suspension!
I’m expecting to hear that someday. Btw Your videos are amazing and I have learned a lot more than I already did.
hearted just for the sheer commitment to writing your whole family lineage.
@@BladedAngel yep. Also I didn’t realize this until now. Thx
Your “noobs guide” videos are what brought me to your channel a while back when I was trying to get into cars. Easy to understand while giving the pros and cons straight forward
New noob's guide let's go
Best way to start off a thursday morning
Im 14 and ive been watching you for 4 years i grew up with a dad that loves cars and recently me and my dad saved up and bought a legend car and we started racing last season and all of your videos are great i love them so thank you
I’m totally not a car guy, I’m just a huge nerd and I have watched every single one of your videos just so if I ever find myself in a “car culture” situation, I’ll be able to blend in seamlessly. 😂
Literally what I’m doing too lmao 😂
Hey Bladed, great video! I also wanted to point out that hydraulic suspension in road cars does more than raise and lower for bumps. For instance, on my CL63 AMG, it virtually eliminates body roll through turns. This gives the vehicle much more stability, control, and just a more sporty feeling when driving hard, without necessarily giving up a comfortable ride.
Best suspension is hydro pneumatic
Advantage : smooth driving feel
can defuse bombs on uneven roads
Could save someone live
No pot hole could ruin your life
Disadvantage : only available in Rolls-Royce Ghost and certain Citroen model
And some main battle tanks
The “sad pushrod noises” got me alright
This guy has probably saved a few people with these videos. Keep it up
Side note about the Magneride part: Tein makes an active suspension kit for their coilovers (EDFC Actice) which perform similarly in theory, being able to adjust damping on the fly. Since the system runs of a g-sensor and a GPS speed sensor for some versions, it's nowhere near as advanced as Magneride, but still an impressive feat of engineering for what it is imo
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Amazing video!
Thank you RUclips for not telling me this was available!!!! Good stuff
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My cadillac had magnetic suspension. Rode beautifully, but after the wreck only one replacement was $900. I had to say goodbye to my car.
F
@@BladedAngel F indeed. I cried that day
Insurance is a thing...
@@brianbird3756 the damage outweighed the price of the car, they totaled it
@@magicmanv2658 not hard to do nowadays, by your first comment, it seemed like you had to sell your car because of $900.
Sorry for the confusion.
"give up your first born" is no joke. Moton's aftermarket EDC struts are like 10k
This is gonna be awesome ^^
I’ve had different experiences with springs vs coilovers on my s550. Did a lot of homework but long story short, the springs were much nicer than my street comfort spec coilovers. Yes I lost adjustability but I’m not blowing shock mounts. I’m sure good coilovers are out there but I guess they weren’t for me
very helpful I was wondering about the exact same stuff. I am considering lowering my car
When comes to modding your suspension specially Truck owners go way off they make it even more Tall it's just not right so please When modding your truck do it in a right height Air suspension is good suspension for trucks because you can sit low and adjust your right height that's good
Great video. Thank you so much.
A potholes best friend.
I can see this one along with the video about fitment solving so many people's problems, very educational. Also, as camber and caster plates were mentioned, what about a video about wheel geometry next time? There's the Ackermann (not Mikasa) angle that I almost never see or hear about for example
I know you probably haven’t seen the lowrider side of the air suspension community yet, but I’m from east Texas and where I come from it is a huge deal to bag trucks and do them in a lowrider style.
I have mag ride on my 05 Cadillac STS4 it’s amazing. The nice thing about MRC is that they can last forever as long as the seals last. My car is almost 20 years old and still has factory suspension. I’m going to replace them anyway because they are kinda rusty now. But still don’t leak! I can also adjust on the fly the suspension stiffness from touring to performance.
You can get an in-between coilovers and lowering springs. Matched shocks and springs like a Bilstein B12 kit. Very good for fast road and occasional track days.
I haven't had an opportunity to drive a car with magride yet.
Hello 👋 thanks for making video
Drop spindles are definitely a big thing on Pro Touring muscle cars. Though I've noticed that some of these pro touring cars have converted to 4-link and coilover systems on the front and rear.
"my longest noob's guide"
Spends 4 minutes oppressing with his magnetic suspension
Nice video
I remember when I lowered my mustang on coilovers, I had accidentally set them for all the way down instead of all the way up. Scrape nation, I did raise her up about a ½inch. And yes Camber Caster plates are basically a must, it was the only reason my mustang didn't be come a stance car. Overall tho they were probably nicer than stock suspension and the felt great. 10/10 for coilovers
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Not sure if they're the same but I know a "Drop Knuckle" is good for realigning you axles and/or steering rack when you lower a car (anti squat). Note that ik this for drift setups.
Good thing I seen this video, guess I'll be lowering my c6 tommorow 😂
I drive a 2001 Mx5. I have Eibach pro line lowering springs and Bilstein B6 dampers. This paired with some Whiteline antiroll bars and 17 inch rims running Michelin pilot sport 5’s, it makes for a wonderful ride on street. It’s very firm yet also smooth over bumps. Not magnetic suspension smooth, but absolutely one of the best regular old damper designs I’ve ever felt.
Honestly I’d recommend against coilovers for street cars as most coilovers are just way too stiff. If you’re building a track car then coilovers all the way, but for street I’d advise getting some nice dampers and springs. I’ve done coilovers on cars before and while yes the handling is amazing, the ride will suck ass.
13:29 That's a cool looking train though.
Lets go a other modding guide
You can only adjust dampening on coilovers easily. To adjust ride height you must take the load off the springs to adjust.
Love to see bladed getting out of list hell
One of the other great advantages about hyrdaulics is that they are the cheapest way for amatuer race/engineering teams to play with fully mode-decoupled suspension setups on track
You forgot about the Hydro-pneumatic suspension type, found in older Citroën, Rolls Roys and Mercedes.
Man now I need to go buy a cadillac deville dts with Magnetic suspension.
I got Mag Ride on my Zl1 and can confirm it's the best lol.
Magnaride+rolling sleeve air springs = ultimate superiority.
I expected different suspension types(double wishbone and push rod)but I am not disappointed
Just as a nice to know the new Volvos except for the xc40 all have leafsprings in the back too ;)
Yes man more good content and not a list vid
Hey new subscriber here, I watched a good amount of your content, you seem very knowledgeable and I love your sarcasm... Can you do a noob guide for BBK... Are they worth it?.... Do you suggest a different kind of brake upgrade for daily drivers? .... I have 17 Civic 1.5l engine... Do you have different suggestions for people like my car or for you Vette example??... If you bang one out, thank you in advance
Nice
nice timing, next mod I'm doing is Fortune Auto coilovers, just need like a month to get the money for them
Thx i need this
My dad put drop spindles on his blazer. Its gonna look awesome once he gets his drive shaft shortened because it doesnt fit now lol
I feel like trying to install MR would be a fun task
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Got a CT5 w magniride so cool super soft and hell of a car
My Taurus just hit 150k miles so this will probably be super handy
Dialing your struts from the hood changes ride stiffness not ride height, if you wanna change ride height in coil overs it’s pretty hard cause you have to take the wheels off and take them out, then once you get it all set you have to change your sway bar end links because the geometry changes and they will be preloaded
you dont have to take coilovers out to change the ride height
When you were talking about air suspension you say you can get cups does that count as air cups suspension or is that something completely different because what I've seen air cup suspension as is a coil over with a cup on top of it that you can use to adjust your ride height and is best for going over like speed bumps and Steep driveways while also still having the coilovers
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Did you know that Cadillac was the first to debut MRC on 2002.5 Cadillac Seville STS. Cadillac also had night vision option for the 2000-05 DTS.
lowering springs are great for cars with factory magnetic ride suspension
So funny dude , oppressive
7:00 that car looks like it high fiving another car like in the movie cars (ik amazing discovery)
Im doing fortune 500 air cup and drop spindles on my audi, so I can have long spring travel while being lower. trying to craft up the ultimate touring car.
What about cutting out the strut mounts and welding them back in higher or lower?
Bro forgot that Lowering the car will lower drag thus faster acceleration but nonetheless great video keep up
I gotta do a coil over conversion on my 1996 Nissan hardbody, the old strut bars aren’t going to cut it on track
Yes another videohehe
If ya do one off these agian do enginge layouts
You should do a "Top # mods for beginners" could be nice for Newbies to know what mods are adecuate for starting in the car modding hobby.
I think he already did a year ago. Tires and wheels are the number one and two ways to make your car significantly better. Almost everyone will tell you getting a good pair of tires and wheels will let you feel the difference immediately, he had diffuser and splitters on that video too
Camaros comes stock with magna ride. And I didn't realize corvettes had leaf springs seems a little outdated for a sports car
It's been a while but I am still a noob
I feel like you should've briefly mentioned lowering springs with aftermarket struts and shocks.
K now, how i found costume magnetic ride suspension for EK civic 💀
I guess one of the downsides of coilovers is that it tends to make more suspension noise compared to OEMs especially if it's a track-focused setup.
5:45 Really?! Hmmmm 🤔
Well here are some facts. There are some big disadvantages.
1. They are meant to adjust and due to road junk they might not be able to adjust because of road junk getting stuck like small rocks and salt and so on and they are really hard to get clean out or you can't all together.
2. To adjust them is very annoying and to do it properly is very annoying. But because the standard in the United States is well it's good enough looks like you really don't care about something being A+.
3. Some aftermarket companies will not sell you replacement parts if you wanted the units or small pieces was to go bad or get defective. You would have to buy the whole set of four.
So what would be the best option IF hypothetically I wanted to make a certain japanese vehicle look like a lifted/rally/offroad looking beast?
Man am i living in a wrong country , in israel its ilegal to mod your car almost in any way , almost a year ago i bought my childhood dream car bmw e36 its a standart 1.8 sedan(all i could afford the 2.5/2.8 models here cost like 25-30k USD) but i love it, wish i didnt have to pay 120 $ every time i visit gas station xD. Love your videos ))
Hey Blade just bought a C5 corvette and am interested in bags or the hydraulic left system for KW Coilovers. I enjoy lowered cars, but want to be able to raise my car pulling into driveways. What are your thoughts?
but bladed how about the miata?
I was gonna get air bags but I’m thinking about coils now. What should I do?
Hail Hydra
Thx
5:26 CHRISFIX SPOTTED
8:05 you're forgetting a disadvantage which is that they're heavier then other cheaper suspension options and even though they are good for track racing you're better off with coilovers.
You can't do drop shackles on ur Vette? Idk if there are any, but i figured if it's truck suspension, then there has to be parts similar to a truck
Fortune auto has their APLS system
Let me know when they have an air suspension with a vinyl coating.
How much would it cost to switch over to coilovers on the C7?
For a Stingray? Not that much. You can get coilovers for like $2K then either install them yourself or get a shop to do it for like $600 then get it aligned after.
For a Z06 with Magneride? In your dreams!! Someone wrote a forum thread saying, "I started with a beautiful Z06 that rode great, but ended up with $10K worth of Suspension to ride like a POS". A Z06 w/ magneride will need to have it's magneride deleted (A lot of Labor cost) and also buy a system to stop the computer from freaking out it's magneride isn't get a reading. Then for parts to replace the leaf springs and dual wishbone assembly with Coilovers and Struts will cost $3.3K MINIMUM (Yes cheaper ones exist, but they will ride worse than OEM, if you're going to Coils, your goal is to be Same or BETTER). Then labor, then a lot of other frustrations, mayber $3K more, and compatibility later, it doesn't change the fact the C7 chassis isn't meant to be on Coils to begin with. It rides horribly. IMO it's not worth giving up Magneride Leaf Springs since they surprisingly beat most Aftermarket Coilover setups..i hope this helped. Don't throw $10K like the guy on the forum did...only to ride worse than stock!
@@BladedAngel Thanks!
10:03 There is specifically designed air suspension to combat this problem?
For insane prices, yes. I mention cups as well as "Track Focused Bag systems", but still say "A Coilover setup for track will be cheaper".
I can't physically stop someone from racing on bags, but I've seen friends blow them on Lanier Raceplex and Road Atlanta...what happens to their bank account next isn't pretty.
I'd rather blow a coil, OE strut, or shock, than an air system.
I’m 15 and I just got my first car 2 weeks ago but I have to buy everything I want to do to my car with my own money so for my first ever build ill have to unfortunately run lowering springs
Bladed gotta ask which is better, Harder Springs or Softer springs when using MacPherson Struts and Coil Springs
My Family still has their 97 Lancer and my uncle recently changed the suspension springs to a more softer kind
Softer is better for cruising, Harder is better for racing. You can just get a progressive spring so it softens when cruising, but stiffens when you accelerate or corner.
IMO if you want to choose between the two, get coil overs. always the most foolproof way to have a choice instead of buying two different springs based on situation.
@@BladedAngel thanks bladed