You the only tech content creator who make very detailed videos on laptops and puts amazing amount of work in them ! They literally cover everything a laptop buyer wanna know in the most uncomplicated way ever !
Agreed! Gaming laptops are getting so much better and make much more sense for a lot of gamers today but they don’t get nearly as much love from tech youtubers. Happy I found this channel!
@@bangostate yeah exactly you can literally buy cheap gaming laptop to be your everything device , I use my nitro 5 for work , gaming and basically everything and you can get an rtx 3050 laptop for less of a price of a cheap android midrange phone which people buy to play genshin impact on low graphics 😭 I feel like there have been no better time In history to get into gaming/ design because cheap products don't sacrifice anything and expensive ones are only get more niche and you can't even spot the difference 😂
@@wezcuz6072 Can't compare laptops to phones. Phones are very expensive bc of the extreme portability benefit. I agree that its a great time to buy good tech for gaming, design and creation. its only going to get better. Can't wait to game on an ultra book w/ GTX 1070/1080 level GPU performance 😁
The current status of DDR5 is in its early stage. The potential of its development is quite high as faster clock speeds and especially significantly faster/lower timings are on the way which will further increase CPU performance in the near future.
I'm amazed by the amount of details on each of vids you made, that's insane, thanks for tons of info on your vids I finally can chose the Legion 5 pro 2022 as my daily laptop
I’ve learned more watching this guy while shopping for a computer than I have in years. There’s so much to understanding the different aspects of a laptop and I feel like I’m getting a much better grasp on it and can make a better informed decision on a pretty expensive purchase.
there's one key use case you've missed in the case of DDR4 vs DDR5 and that is music production. a lot of music plugins use a LOT of RAM and DDR5 simply has much better bandwidth and efficiency than DDR4
Pretty sure I found your channel when you had about 18K subs. Now you're at 561K subs. It really should be more, as you are the absolute best laptop reviewer here on YT. All the best to you and yours this holiday season! o7
Been waiting for this one. Thanks for taking the time to make it happen. Going ddr4 was one of the concessions I had to accept on the new laptop I just picked up. I basically traded ddr4 for getting 3070ti over 3070 with the ti also have a 10w higher tdp. This video helped confirm I made the right choice. Side note - wonder what the deal is with the 1% lowers on Forza, seems janky.
Perfectly timed video! 🔥 Was thinking about buying the Predator Helios 300 RTX 3060 (2022) variation but was having second thoughts in choosing DDR4 vs DDR5 and would it be worth the money. Thanks for the in-depth analysis, helped me a lot. 🙏🏼
I'm going to go with go with ddr5 ram i looked on amazon for laptop ram the ddr4 16 gb 4000 mhz vs ddr5 16 gb 4800mhz are about the same price maybe like $2 difference.
The three machines I just bought all have DDR5, so I'm being completely honest when I say there doesn't appear to be very much real world difference between the two except in very specific circumstances.
1) why would you get a gaming LAPTOP full stop 2) DDR5 will become more useful in time as software becomes better developed to use it. I'm buying it for 3+yrs from now, not now.
I upgraded my laptop ram from ddr5 4800 (16gb) to 5600 (32gb) from crucial and can’t tell u how much faster and less stressful it’s been using my gpu (3070) on more demanding games and not worry about background apps taking all ram usage. I’ve been getting few more fps on hogwarts legacy but its not very noticeable as its only 2-4 fps
Hey Jarrod, just wondering since DDR5 is already "running in dual-channal", would a 8 GB DDR5 stick be more similar to 8+8 GB DDR4 or a 16 GB stick of DDR4? And would this mean that having uneven sticks such as 8+16, 8+24, or 8+32 in DDR5 be usable, as in be better than just 8+8 or just one 8 of DDR5, in situations where you can't switch out the 8 GB stick i.e. it being soldiered to the motherboard?
Have you considered doing gaming benchmarks on the iGPUs? With Ryzens having good battery life and iGPUs gaming on battery is starting to become feasible in certain situations.
Do you know, or can you check if DDR5 increases performance of Intel's iris Xe? The 96 EU chip on laptops with DDR4 3200 is almost 50% slower than the same chip with LPDDR4X. The jump from 11th gen to 12th gen didn't change the number of EUs, but jumping to DDR5 must have had some effect.
Good idea with the Iris Xe performance comparison, but perhaps a bit too much work for too little gain. I just checked on Geizhals (German product filtering engine) for Intel Core 12th Gen laptops that do *not* have a dedicated GPU and then compared the number of listings with DDR4 vs. DDR5. Result: only 31 listings with DDR5, yet 384 listings with DDR4. In other words: DDR4 still dominates the "iGPU-only" market. So any comparison to make would be largely academical without little practical use for laptop buyers. When filtering for 12th Gen laptops *with dGPU*, the market is split almost 50:50, with 294 listings on DDR4 and 267 listings on DDR5. So that comparison is quite relevant to the buyer at the moment. But I agree, the pretty good performance of Intel Iris Xe is not receiving enough spotlight in the tech review space. Perhaps Intel should step up their marketing. They haven't even given a properly supported answer to G-SYNC and FreeSync yet. // Tom
I think he tested this (or simply tested different laptops and it included this) and to my VERY BIG suprise, the performance was basically the same. I cannot understand why, I though the extra bandwidth would make a lot of difference. I don't remember which video was, sadly.
If you have DDR4 you'll be good probably till DDR6 but get DDR5 if barely noticible fps diffrence in fps and work loads is worth it to you and or you want to just future proof your system more but i'd say if you're on a budget DDR4 is not a bad choice imo
Just built a new PC and decided to go with DDR5 because, at the moment DDR4 and DDR5 might have slight differences, but surely 2 years from now, newer and better DDR5 will be out on the market. This means, that my motherboard will be able to cater those upgrades while DDR4 might not get newer upgrades .
software usually has hyperparameters, these are optimized on benchmark system, to maximize performance. once DDR5 gains significant marketshare, benchmark system will be upgraded to DDR5, and hyperparameters retuned. that is when DDR5 will get fair evaluation. till then, DDR4 has unfair advantage.
i'm looking at your price differences. if i remember correctly, you had a video where you said we don't need two sticks of ddr5 (unlike ddr4) for dual channel performance boost. so why would you want 2x 8 GB sticks instead of 1x 16 GB stick? using just one stick would be more upgradeable in the future. or similarly why get 2x 16 GB sticks if 1x 32 GB stick is cheaper?
DDR5 is definitely a smart choice for someone who wants some longevity to their GPU. I’m sure with the newer more intensive games that are coming out, DDR5 will become a necessity.
I'm so lucky .I was disappointed until this video came. Choose ddr4 laptop which saved some money and bought higher tier GPU. A 140W 3070 is 30% faster and 33% more vram than 3060 . Also faster than 100W 3080.
@@vmafarah9473 definitely worth it...instant impact if you own an external 1440p monitor. That 140w operating range. DLSS 2.0 support vs the 2070s max q 4k omen i have...is also a pretty nice feature offering a lot more POTENTIAL. DLSS +Vulkan on warzone with a 140w 3070 aint too bad, better FPS yields than most ppls desktops.
Hey today I found two laptops in the same price but the different is one got Rtx 3060 16 ram ddr4 3200 16ram and Ryzen 5 5600h with 1tb of memory. And the other latop got i5 12500 ddr5 16 ram but come with rtx (3050) what with only 500 gb . What do u guys think I should get? 🤷♂️🤷♂️😅
I just bought a gigabyte aero 5xe4 and a lot of the fact that it ( while being a super high end spec laptop) was so reasonable priced was cuz it uses ddr4 memory. I think for most people unless they haha a ddr5 laptop to compare constantly , and are very nitpicky , the vast majority of buyers won't really even notice the difference. But gigabytes ddr5 laptops are a good bit more expensive. So ya
Could have also compared 1 stick of 16 gb ddr4 and 1stick of 16 gb ddr5. Also mismatched RAM. Like 1x8 1x32/16 ddr4 and 1x8 1x32/16 ddr5, and compare that 24gb/40 gb results with the results from this video and check how good ddr5 memory management is. I know it's a tough ask, but many of us can't make these comparisons
@Elegant spy And IDK, because that game seems to be very old and poorly optimized. I mean, are you really going to need 4 - 6 more FPS above 120 fps or so?
And here I was worried about the 5200mhz vs 5800mhz ram on my new laptop, both ddr5, although the 5800 is marked as xmp. But really, if the difference is this tiny for ddr4 vs ddr5 AND a fairly big difference in frequency, then 600 mhz frequency difference in the same generation should really be pretty tiny, nothing to care about. The RAM in my new laptop can be changed so if I really for some reason want better RAM later, I can just buy some. I'm coming from 2666 mhz ddr4 ram in my alienware m17r3 laptop... and it's doing fine enough even at 4k with stable 60fps with some settings tweaked. This alienware m18r1 with max specs except for RAM will absolutely bulldoze any game.
Question Here Hi, does hp omen k series newer chasis one are good to go buy? 3070 ti 150 watts without qhd or 3070 ti max q with qhd . Which is better?
Would my razer blade pro running DDR4 2666v 2x8g be able to use hyperx 3300v ddr4 1x32g? just purchased a new one and Ram is making eletrick buzzing sound.... i called company and they told me that "Ram is good, Razer pro can only support ram upto 2800 frequency, but the Ram is 3300v..... that's why this would not work on my pc"
finally this question has been answered now. could you please do a comparison between the 11th gen and 12th gen intel processor in gaming? several laptops still using non-Ti RTX GPU paired with intel 12th gen in 2022.
I asked the question before but he told me there is no similar device. I think there will be a 6% difference in games. But could multi-core performance is more.
@@vmafarah9473 That's unfortunate.. Hope Lenovo would send both Legion 5i Pro last year and this year (paired with 3060 or 3070) version if he ask them to.
When laptop ddr5 memory has gotten up to speeds to around 6500mhz, then this will be the comparable test. 2333 laptop ram vs 4800 would have been a more accurate test
Hi Jarrod, i want to ask about the Legion 5 2021, i remember you use ssd m.2 4tb on one slot. How is that possible? I read on the website, it's just maxed up to 1.5tb. can you explain about this?
I guess right now, there's no real major difference between DDR4 and DDR5. If you're getting a new laptop or bulding a new PC, it's best to get DDR5. If you have a good gaming laptop already or PC, it's probably best to wait to upgrade or buy a new MOBO or Laptop.
you should compare price by price . 130 dollars of ddr5 vs 130 dollars for example . 64gb ddr4 cas 16 vs 64gb probably 4800 mhz and cas 44 . then the ddr4 would be faster . of course if you do not factorize this , then a 250 dollars 64gb of ddr5 vs 130 dollars of ddr4 would win almost everytime
Don’t know about other gaming laptop series but here in the EU the Rog Zephyrus G16 DDR4 12 gen costs 450 Euro less than the same Spec Zephyrus 12th gen G16 equivilent with DDR5.
Hello Jarrod, Question, if I have a ASUS ROG Strix SCAR 18 Core i9 RTX 4080 18in laptop and want to upgrade the ram, which one could you point me in the direction of. TIA
Hey Jarrod,plz consider including the lightroom benchmark in the next videos u make,nobody test for the photographers these sistems,photoshop is not our main tool,its lightroom now days,when clearly there is a right benchmark for it from puget
My DDR3 32 GB ram has a latency of 32ns. unlike 90ns you are testing. also, mine is 2rx8. This number makes a lot of difference. DDR4 ram battery life is dependent on what manufacturing they used to build it. A 10nm will be super efficienct compared to 14-20nm. This has nothing really to do with DDR4/DDR5
Hi Jarrod. Can you please share some information regarding the gigabyte g5 kd52au123SO and it’s ability to bypass Optimus? And please share your overall thought about it I would much appreciate that :)
Have you tried single chanel performance? If I understood correctly what Linus said in his video there would be bigger jump in performace because Single chanel of DDR5 acts almost like Dual chanel of DDR4, right?
I've got a Legion 5i Pro with 12th Gen i7 processor with 16GB (two sticks). I'm thinking of upgrading to 32GB (Star Citizen!!!). Which would you recommend? Feel free to share a link if you know of a good supplier in the UK.
Bro I wish you could also investigate the effects of using a premium SODIMM kit, such as the GSKill F5-4800S3434A16GX2-RS. Same capacity, but much, MUCH lower timings (CL40 vs CL34)
as of now, ddr5 == high performance at lesser power consumption, vs ddr4. maybe not by much, but if you’re getting similar performance (or more) at lesser power consumption means less electricity bills in 10 years and also more environmental friendly. we are yet to see more results 😊
new q4 2022/q1 2023 laptop owners liek me need a test and comparison vid for the ff. ddr5 modules: 1. 2x16 patriot cl40 4800 for 160usd 2. 2x16 crucial cl40 4800 for 168usd 3. 2x16 kingston impact cl38 4800 for 200usd 4. 2x16 teamgroup elite cl40 4800 for 224usd 5. 2x16 samsung cl40 4800 for 260usd
Can anyone explain why do I also get over 12k points in Cinebench R23 with i7-11800H and 9200 in geekbench 5? its basically same as the i9-12900H tested in the video, how is that even possible?
You the only tech content creator who make very detailed videos on laptops and puts amazing amount of work in them ! They literally cover everything a laptop buyer wanna know in the most uncomplicated way ever !
Agreed! Gaming laptops are getting so much better and make much more sense for a lot of gamers today but they don’t get nearly as much love from tech youtubers. Happy I found this channel!
@@bangostate yeah exactly you can literally buy cheap gaming laptop to be your everything device , I use my nitro 5 for work , gaming and basically everything and you can get an rtx 3050 laptop for less of a price of a cheap android midrange phone which people buy to play genshin impact on low graphics 😭 I feel like there have been no better time In history to get into gaming/ design because cheap products don't sacrifice anything and expensive ones are only get more niche and you can't even spot the difference 😂
@@wezcuz6072 You've never seen cheap midrange android smartphones then
@@wezcuz6072 Can't compare laptops to phones. Phones are very expensive bc of the extreme portability benefit. I agree that its a great time to buy good tech for gaming, design and creation. its only going to get better. Can't wait to game on an ultra book w/ GTX 1070/1080 level GPU performance 😁
Yeap, he helped me buying my laptop. I'm pretty happy that I got a legion 5 instead of a nitro 5.
The current status of DDR5 is in its early stage. The potential of its development is quite high as faster clock speeds and especially significantly faster/lower timings are on the way which will further increase CPU performance in the near future.
What's gonna unlock DDR5 potential? Is it software compatibility?
@@oqserenity1642 Manufacturers! Same as DDR4 came from 2100MHz to 3600 or higher with lower timings
As far as I'm aware, we might not get much further with clocks on ddr5 cause we're kinda maxing out sodimm connector right now
Then how GPU is benefiting? Can the timing decrease when transfer rate increase?
@@vmafarah9473 I didn't mean that ddr4 maxes out the slot. Ddr5 kinda is and we might not see faster clocks on ddr5, but timings should go down
I'm amazed by the amount of details on each of vids you made, that's insane, thanks for tons of info on your vids I finally can chose the Legion 5 pro 2022 as my daily laptop
I’ve learned more watching this guy while shopping for a computer than I have in years. There’s so much to understanding the different aspects of a laptop and I feel like I’m getting a much better grasp on it and can make a better informed decision on a pretty expensive purchase.
yet another depth analysis. great work Jarrod 💖
I didn't expect DDR5 memory can improve battery life that much
Will vary greatly on each manufacturer
It’s uses less power
Probably something stuck in the background, or a service/program doing whatever it did. Unlucky.
there's one key use case you've missed in the case of DDR4 vs DDR5 and that is music production. a lot of music plugins use a LOT of RAM and DDR5 simply has much better bandwidth and efficiency than DDR4
Agreed. The more and better the RAM, the better.
Arent vsts more CPU intensive than ram?
@@ASPEDBUSDRIVER1 kontakt uses a ton of memory, mostly library plugins especially classical-oriented stuff. effect vsts tend to be more cpu-intensive
I wonder if Ableton and Pioneer DJ Rekordbox would run better in DDR5 (?)
Sure, for productivity, ddr5 is better. But for games, especially with a medium-range gpu, it really doesn't matter and never has really.
Only you are doing such a great job in the laptop field putting hours and hours of work in for a single video great job and thanks for your hard work
Pretty sure I found your channel when you had about 18K subs. Now you're at 561K subs. It really should be more, as you are the absolute best laptop reviewer here on YT.
All the best to you and yours this holiday season! o7
Ddr4 is still relevant for me
DDR is still relevant for me 💀💀💀
Same here
Lmaooo
rdr2 is still relevant to me
You are irrelevant to the survival of the human species and the grand scheme of the universe 😙☺️
Been waiting for this one. Thanks for taking the time to make it happen. Going ddr4 was one of the concessions I had to accept on the new laptop I just picked up. I basically traded ddr4 for getting 3070ti over 3070 with the ti also have a 10w higher tdp. This video helped confirm I made the right choice. Side note - wonder what the deal is with the 1% lowers on Forza, seems janky.
Perfectly timed video! 🔥
Was thinking about buying the Predator Helios 300 RTX 3060 (2022) variation but was having second thoughts in choosing DDR4 vs DDR5 and would it be worth the money. Thanks for the in-depth analysis, helped me a lot. 🙏🏼
Now the helios 300 on bestbuy is 1.5k $ right ?
Recently I bought one of it with ddr5 good one
@@samoraiuk2234 1149 on sale
I still game on a 5 year old helios 300 with a 1060.
I'm going to go with go with ddr5 ram i looked on amazon for laptop ram the ddr4 16 gb 4000 mhz vs ddr5 16 gb 4800mhz are about the same price maybe like $2 difference.
This guy gives the reviews on whole other level man... Hats off
The three machines I just bought all have DDR5, so I'm being completely honest when I say there doesn't appear to be very much real world difference between the two except in very specific circumstances.
Tyvm for you observing this info. Very helpful for me personally. Helped to make a decision, which laptop to buy. Thank you man. !!
Thanks Jarrod!! You're AWESOME. Love your channel!!💖👏😉👍
1) why would you get a gaming LAPTOP full stop
2) DDR5 will become more useful in time as software becomes better developed to use it.
I'm buying it for 3+yrs from now, not now.
Until watching this vid, I wasn't aware every word ended with an R.
I upgraded my laptop ram from ddr5 4800 (16gb) to 5600 (32gb) from crucial and can’t tell u how much faster and less stressful it’s been using my gpu (3070) on more demanding games and not worry about background apps taking all ram usage. I’ve been getting few more fps on hogwarts legacy but its not very noticeable as its only 2-4 fps
Witch laptop you have and how you already know that your laptop motherboard cam support from 4800mhz to 5600mhz ?It runs stable at 5600mhz?
Thanks for making clear, now I can refer friends to this video to see the difference if it matters to them.
Your only video which is so much detailed as well as simple to understand
Hey Jarrod, just wondering since DDR5 is already "running in dual-channal", would a 8 GB DDR5 stick be more similar to 8+8 GB DDR4 or a 16 GB stick of DDR4? And would this mean that having uneven sticks such as 8+16, 8+24, or 8+32 in DDR5 be usable, as in be better than just 8+8 or just one 8 of DDR5, in situations where you can't switch out the 8 GB stick i.e. it being soldiered to the motherboard?
Please answer/test this in a future video Jarrod
Have you considered doing gaming benchmarks on the iGPUs? With Ryzens having good battery life and iGPUs gaming on battery is starting to become feasible in certain situations.
I mean if you are only playing LOL or CS yeah its possible, but not on battery.
Still only 2 hours tops on a RDNA2 laptop.
company's : we got new generation
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Do you know, or can you check if DDR5 increases performance of Intel's iris Xe? The 96 EU chip on laptops with DDR4 3200 is almost 50% slower than the same chip with LPDDR4X. The jump from 11th gen to 12th gen didn't change the number of EUs, but jumping to DDR5 must have had some effect.
DDR5 is gonna be better for igpu in AMD and Intel. The igpu uses the system RAM so the faster the better.
How come, Jarrod miss this?
Where's already a LPDDR5X
Good idea with the Iris Xe performance comparison, but perhaps a bit too much work for too little gain. I just checked on Geizhals (German product filtering engine) for Intel Core 12th Gen laptops that do *not* have a dedicated GPU and then compared the number of listings with DDR4 vs. DDR5. Result: only 31 listings with DDR5, yet 384 listings with DDR4. In other words: DDR4 still dominates the "iGPU-only" market. So any comparison to make would be largely academical without little practical use for laptop buyers. When filtering for 12th Gen laptops *with dGPU*, the market is split almost 50:50, with 294 listings on DDR4 and 267 listings on DDR5. So that comparison is quite relevant to the buyer at the moment. But I agree, the pretty good performance of Intel Iris Xe is not receiving enough spotlight in the tech review space. Perhaps Intel should step up their marketing. They haven't even given a properly supported answer to G-SYNC and FreeSync yet. // Tom
I think he tested this (or simply tested different laptops and it included this) and to my VERY BIG suprise, the performance was basically the same. I cannot understand why, I though the extra bandwidth would make a lot of difference. I don't remember which video was, sadly.
If you have DDR4 you'll be good probably till DDR6 but get DDR5 if barely noticible fps diffrence in fps and work loads is worth it to you and or you want to just future proof your system more but i'd say if you're on a budget DDR4 is not a bad choice imo
Great video Jarrod! Thx man!
Just built a new PC and decided to go with DDR5 because, at the moment DDR4 and DDR5 might have slight differences, but surely 2 years from now, newer and better DDR5 will be out on the market. This means, that my motherboard will be able to cater those upgrades while DDR4 might not get newer upgrades .
Good video. Helps with future purchases.
Ngl XMG is pretty awesome for sending you almost identical configs with a single variable.
Jarrod rocking melodic death metal shirts all the time.
Great work man, thanks!
Thank you for great comparison.
Thank you for the knowledge.
It's good to see you adding in Apex and other first person shooter titles during your tests, so many of us are FPS addicts lol, cheers.
i think you should do more reviews about the laptops
and test a different configration
maybe comparing also
this is the video i was looking for!
Love the metal shirts
software usually has hyperparameters, these are optimized on benchmark system, to maximize performance. once DDR5 gains significant marketshare, benchmark system will be upgraded to DDR5, and hyperparameters retuned. that is when DDR5 will get fair evaluation. till then, DDR4 has unfair advantage.
Fantastic review. Will you do a review desktop motherboards DDR4 vs DDR5?
if you would have talked about battery life difference too this would have been the perfect video on this planet
OH MY IT IS HERE THANK YOU JARROD
I should get the money first lol
i'm looking at your price differences. if i remember correctly, you had a video where you said we don't need two sticks of ddr5 (unlike ddr4) for dual channel performance boost. so why would you want 2x 8 GB sticks instead of 1x 16 GB stick? using just one stick would be more upgradeable in the future. or similarly why get 2x 16 GB sticks if 1x 32 GB stick is cheaper?
That’s a good question, I want answer for this one too
A buyers guide will be greatly appreciated by the audience right now
Great explanation
did not expect that much difference wow
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DDR5 is definitely a smart choice for someone who wants some longevity to their GPU. I’m sure with the newer more intensive games that are coming out, DDR5 will become a necessity.
In December 2022, only go 12th Gen CPU plus DDR5 RAM. Worth the little extra. Great video. 👍
I'm lucky because the Asus Tuf fx507zr laptop that I bought a few weeks ago already uses DDR5 RAM 🤗
Same
I'm so lucky .I was disappointed until this video came. Choose ddr4 laptop which saved some money and bought higher tier GPU. A 140W 3070 is 30% faster and 33% more vram than 3060 . Also faster than 100W 3080.
@@vmafarah9473 definitely worth it...instant impact if you own an external 1440p monitor. That 140w operating range. DLSS 2.0 support vs the 2070s max q 4k omen i have...is also a pretty nice feature offering a lot more POTENTIAL. DLSS +Vulkan on warzone with a 140w 3070 aint too bad, better FPS yields than most ppls desktops.
Hey today I found two laptops in the same price but the different is one got Rtx 3060 16 ram ddr4 3200 16ram and Ryzen 5 5600h with 1tb of memory.
And the other latop got i5 12500 ddr5 16 ram but come with rtx (3050) what with only 500 gb . What do u guys think I should get? 🤷♂️🤷♂️😅
keep in mind… this is the beginning off DDR5-Memory. I think the Performance in some years would be very better 🚀
I just bought a gigabyte aero 5xe4 and a lot of the fact that it ( while being a super high end spec laptop) was so reasonable priced was cuz it uses ddr4 memory. I think for most people unless they haha a ddr5 laptop to compare constantly , and are very nitpicky , the vast majority of buyers won't really even notice the difference. But gigabytes ddr5 laptops are a good bit more expensive. So ya
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I want to request New World be used as one of your benchmark games
Hello Jarrod tnx for the videos I have question is liquid metal cooling in ROG laptop worth it to cancel buying higher GPU in legion or tuf
I mean the choice is pretty obvious:
DDR4: Chad black PCB with a cool sticker
DDR5: Nasty green, only 3% faster
Nice b8 m8.
Awesome review!!
You should have used dual rank kits for DDR4. Anyway great effort!
Could have also compared 1 stick of 16 gb ddr4 and 1stick of 16 gb ddr5. Also mismatched RAM. Like 1x8 1x32/16 ddr4 and 1x8 1x32/16 ddr5, and compare that 24gb/40 gb results with the results from this video and check how good ddr5 memory management is. I know it's a tough ask, but many of us can't make these comparisons
Not sure if he or HW Unboxed did such a comparison, but it's out there already
@@markozindovic9227 I'll search for it. Thank you
Got my legion 5 in 2021 thanks to you. Happy
I have a 8GB 2 channel 5,500 Megahertz Ram soldered to my laptop, is this good for after effects?
5:47 The + gain starts when you go up from 4800 to 6400. It is up to 18% in spider-man for intel desktop 12xxx and 13xxx.
Agreed. The more CPU heavy a game is, the more important the RAM is, especially with DDR4 RAM.
@@cameronbosch1213 then how come csgo only had small performance difference
@Elegant spy Marvel Spider Man Remastered did have a notable difference though.
@Elegant spy And IDK, because that game seems to be very old and poorly optimized. I mean, are you really going to need 4 - 6 more FPS above 120 fps or so?
@Elegant spy It might be due to DirectX 9, which CS:GO as an older games still uses.
Not a big difference really
And here I was worried about the 5200mhz vs 5800mhz ram on my new laptop, both ddr5, although the 5800 is marked as xmp. But really, if the difference is this tiny for ddr4 vs ddr5 AND a fairly big difference in frequency, then 600 mhz frequency difference in the same generation should really be pretty tiny, nothing to care about. The RAM in my new laptop can be changed so if I really for some reason want better RAM later, I can just buy some. I'm coming from 2666 mhz ddr4 ram in my alienware m17r3 laptop... and it's doing fine enough even at 4k with stable 60fps with some settings tweaked. This alienware m18r1 with max specs except for RAM will absolutely bulldoze any game.
Is it better to go with 3080 with DDR4 or 3070ti with DDR5 at the same price range?
What did your get?
@@tonylazutto5794 3080 with DDR5😅
@@RvkKJ 😑
@@RvkKJ I got same problem now. Can't choose.
I'm really wondering, why can't the engineers make it much different like a 50% performance difference? That graph shows only 5 - 10% difference.
It released not too long ago, just wait until it matures, and we get lower latency
Question Here Hi, does hp omen k series newer chasis one are good to go buy? 3070 ti 150 watts without qhd or 3070 ti max q with qhd .
Which is better?
So battery life is seemingly the bigggest benefit of DDR5. Nice.
Would my razer blade pro running DDR4 2666v 2x8g be able to use hyperx 3300v ddr4 1x32g? just purchased a new one and Ram is making eletrick buzzing sound.... i called company and they told me that "Ram is good, Razer pro can only support ram upto 2800 frequency, but the Ram is 3300v..... that's why this would not work on my pc"
finally this question has been answered now. could you please do a comparison between the 11th gen and 12th gen intel processor in gaming? several laptops still using non-Ti RTX GPU paired with intel 12th gen in 2022.
I asked the question before but he told me there is no similar device. I think there will be a 6% difference in games. But could multi-core performance is more.
@@vmafarah9473 That's unfortunate.. Hope Lenovo would send both Legion 5i Pro last year and this year (paired with 3060 or 3070) version if he ask them to.
When laptop ddr5 memory has gotten up to speeds to around 6500mhz, then this will be the comparable test. 2333 laptop ram vs 4800 would have been a more accurate test
Hi Jarrod, i want to ask about the Legion 5 2021, i remember you use ssd m.2 4tb on one slot. How is that possible? I read on the website, it's just maxed up to 1.5tb. can you explain about this?
I guess right now, there's no real major difference between DDR4 and DDR5. If you're getting a new laptop or bulding a new PC, it's best to get DDR5. If you have a good gaming laptop already or PC, it's probably best to wait to upgrade or buy a new MOBO or Laptop.
you should compare price by price . 130 dollars of ddr5 vs 130 dollars for example . 64gb ddr4 cas 16 vs 64gb probably 4800 mhz and cas 44 . then the ddr4 would be faster . of course if you do not factorize this , then a 250 dollars 64gb of ddr5 vs 130 dollars of ddr4 would win almost everytime
Don’t know about other gaming laptop series but here in the EU the Rog Zephyrus G16 DDR4 12 gen costs 450 Euro less than the same Spec Zephyrus 12th gen G16 equivilent with DDR5.
The way I see it.
You want to squeezes the most out your rams.
The ram sellers want to squeezes the most out of you for a 3% improvements.
3070ti: smh
it'll be couple more years for me to upgrade ddr5 system..😅
Hello Jarrod, Question, if I have a ASUS ROG Strix SCAR 18 Core i9 RTX 4080 18in laptop and want to upgrade the ram, which one could you point me in the direction of. TIA
Hey Jarrod,plz consider including the lightroom benchmark in the next videos u make,nobody test for the photographers these sistems,photoshop is not our main tool,its lightroom now days,when clearly there is a right benchmark for it from puget
My DDR3 32 GB ram has a latency of 32ns. unlike 90ns you are testing. also, mine is 2rx8. This number makes a lot of difference. DDR4 ram battery life is dependent on what manufacturing they used to build it. A 10nm will be super efficienct compared to 14-20nm. This has nothing really to do with DDR4/DDR5
In games, the differences seem minimal.. I guess the reason is because most modern games are GPU-bound.. and memory is pretty much tied to CPU..
Do DDR5 laptop memory include ECC as desktop ram?
I'm waiting to see how the 13th gen cpu's do in laptops before I pull the trigger on one..
Hi Jarrod. Can you please share some information regarding the gigabyte g5 kd52au123SO and it’s ability to bypass Optimus? And please share your overall thought about it I would much appreciate that :)
I’d be interested to see performance difference in a poorly optimized, memory-dependent game like Cities: Skylines.
Have you tried single chanel performance? If I understood correctly what Linus said in his video there would be bigger jump in performace because Single chanel of DDR5 acts almost like Dual chanel of DDR4, right?
I've got a Legion 5i Pro with 12th Gen i7 processor with 16GB (two sticks). I'm thinking of upgrading to 32GB (Star Citizen!!!). Which would you recommend? Feel free to share a link if you know of a good supplier in the UK.
Bro I wish you could also investigate the effects of using a premium SODIMM kit, such as the GSKill F5-4800S3434A16GX2-RS. Same capacity, but much, MUCH lower timings (CL40 vs CL34)
as of now, ddr5 == high performance at lesser power consumption, vs ddr4. maybe not by much, but if you’re getting similar performance (or more) at lesser power consumption means less electricity bills in 10 years and also more environmental friendly. we are yet to see more results 😊
new q4 2022/q1 2023 laptop owners liek me need a test and comparison vid for the ff. ddr5 modules:
1. 2x16 patriot cl40 4800 for 160usd
2. 2x16 crucial cl40 4800 for 168usd
3. 2x16 kingston impact cl38 4800 for 200usd
4. 2x16 teamgroup elite cl40 4800 for 224usd
5. 2x16 samsung cl40 4800 for 260usd
Much more interesting should be ddr4 vs ddr5 igpu comparison, for low end gaming laptops.
Now the question is should I go for ddr5 laptop at 10 percent more price?
Someone please say ddr5 or lpddr 5 which is best. For dell laps.?? Pls be quick
Can anyone explain why do I also get over 12k points in Cinebench R23 with i7-11800H and 9200 in geekbench 5? its basically same as the i9-12900H tested in the video, how is that even possible?
have u guys experience the difference 16gb ram ddr4,5 ? are that big difference if i use it for streaming?
So what if there’s a pc with better specs and ddr4 or worse specs and ddr5
With iGPU laptops the ddr gap Is bigger, since the chips “steal” DRAM.
Is there a difference between DDR5-4800, DDR5-5200 and DDR5-5600 in gaming performance? Is it worth paying extra for the faster laptop ram?