You're Probably Wasting Your Money... 🙄 DDR4 vs DDR5 RAM For Gaming!
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00:00 Intro
01:13 What RAM did we use?
03:12 Halo Infinite DDR4 Testing
03:58 SOTTR DDR4 Testing
05:23 Marcus's Warzone Song...
05:37 WZ2 DDR4 Testing
06:22 Far Cry 6 DDR4 Testing
07:05 DDR5 at 3600MHz?
09:11 6600MHz DDR45Testing
10:14 Benchmark Graphs
12:09 Do Faster Speeds Matter? 
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Fan fact: if you mixed ddr5 with ddr4 you get ddr9
Why not ddr20?
If you add a stick ddr3 to you get ddr12
Facts tho
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DDR 4.5?
The ram timings were not talked about in this video, but they are very important. When the DDR5 was underclocked at 3600, the timings were probably still CL36 or something around that. DDR4 3600 is usually CL 14, 16 or 18. Much tighter. This explains why the FPS were worse on the DDR5 3600 . The timings should have been discussed or at least given so we could have a better idea how they affect the results.
also on ddr4 single or dual rank was not mentioned
Exactly same toughts here. I would like to see how tight timings you can get ddr5 with 3600mhz.
Agreed, for workload purposes the higher frequency can be an advantage but for gaming the Cas Latency is frequently overlooked. A CL36 with a 5600MHz DDR5 kit has a responce time of about 12.86 nanoseconds and a CL16 3600MHz DDR4 kit has roughly an 8.89 nanosecond responce time. Bigger numbers doesn't always mean better. For those who want to work out their RAM responce time it's CL multiplied by 2000 divided by the frequency to give an answer in nanoseconds.
Hi mate think u can help me with a pc build ?
apparantly this youtuber is not pro enough
Thanks for making all the videos you do, lots have helped me w building my desktop when I did and nowadays I watch bc you have good video ideas elite video quality and editing. Thanks! Great work!
Very helpful. Thanks!
This was almost a perfectly executed test. I just wished that both kits were the same size and not 16g vs 32g. The video had the potential to be perfect but the idea that the ram kits aren't the same same size , I did appreciate that you tested the ddr5 at 3600mhz. I figure if or when ddr5 is more mainstream and 5200-6000 kits with better timings are a thing only then will there be an substantial increase over 3600 ddr4.
Videos like this are SUPER helpful to those trying to navigate the "new and shiny" products and wondering if you are really getting a performance uplift compared to "older/previous generation" products that are cheaper! Thank you good sir
not exactly helpful.
as one commenter above already stated: The ram timings were not talked about in this video, but they are very important. When the DDR5 was underclocked at 3600, the timings were probably still CL36 or something around that. DDR4 3600 is usually CL 14, 16 or 18. Much tighter. This explains why the FPS were worse on the DDR5 3600 . The timings should have been discussed or at least given so we could have a better idea how they affect the results.
@@robertanthonybermudez5545 you are arguing for the sake of small percentages in performance, the vast majority of users simply won't be able to tell a difference.
@@colinhoover5153 if its not clear for you, I am pointing out the uncertainties in the TESTING METHOD. never I have mentioned any percentages significant or not.
@@robertanthonybermudez5545 did you tune into PC Centric and expect to see Steve or perhaps Tech Notice giving a full in depth breakdown of DDR5 vs DDR4? You may give beef for his "testing methods" but perhaps a change of expectation is needed here
@@colinhoover5153 of course! testing methods are standardized for the very reason of reliability. whoever youtuber uploads a content comparing performances, wether that be a small youtuber or big channels like LTT, i expect the same standard.
Those two front fans not spinning is driving me crazy.
Great presentation, got me subbed!!
great video, thank you for your work, really enlighting!
"ill be here all day" comes to my mind after seeing your hair at 7:05 lol
Thanks for doing this! No one is doing these tests in 2023 now that the platform has matured a bit. Great to have updated info. Saved me some money!
Great video!
Thank you! Great video!
Great video as usual keep it up my guy!
A really great video thank you :)
For something as essential as RAM, I'm amazed so few channels have covered this subject as well as this, for ordinary chaps deciding which way to swing. Also, your vid on the relative performance of DDR4 at different MHz speeds is essential viewing if going DDR4. Ta muchly.
Came a long way from the super market bro 💯💪🏼 keep up the great work !!
Such a great video. Answers such important and relevant questions gamers have. Becoming my favourite RUclipsr!
Thank you!
quite helpfull, thanks
This video helped make me decisions on my upcoming pc build 👍
Classic presentation ~ great fun!
Question: Did you use a seperate 6600MHz kit for the 6600MHz test or did you enable XMP on the 6000MHz to get that up to 6600MHz?
Best part -> I literally was searching about DDR4 vs DDR5 and just saw this guy's vid pop up
Thank you PC Centric
Loved your energy and the testing. I'm not sure if it would make a difference, but I would like to see tests with intensive scenarios in the games such as dense firefights and extreme settings. Maybe there are significant differences there compared to tranquil walks around the map? Great video though. I was looking forward to upgrading to a DDR5 build... WAS.
You explained everything well in this video Marcus!
Thanks dude!
love ur vids hoping to get a very similar to ur 3090 design that u built a while ago just with a 3080ti:D
Great video! Future reference MW2 actually has a built in benchmark with the multiplayer if buy it, you know "for science" lol.
I just dropped a 5800X3D into my DDR4 rig as an upgrade instead of changing to AM5... the smart play right now.
What was the FPS uplift?
The 7000 x3d CPUs may knock it into a cocked hat (but likely at a price), and you have nowhere else to go on AM4.
@@Safetytrousers Yet.... AMD has said they are continuing to support the AM4 platform for a while longer so we may see more versions of x3D chips/refreshes and even zen 4 which they originally planned so we might get more improved CPUs for the platform at some point
@@exoticspeedefy7916 Chances are continued support means BIOS and chipset updates, and continuation of existing CPUs. AMD do want sales of AM5 and what better way to boost that than by only making new x3d chips for AM5.
same here 5800X3D happy with it
I went out of my way to get a DDR4 computer rather than DDR5. I seem to recall a similar issue with DDR3 or maybe when DDR4 first came out. It was ages ago.
If you only changed the memory speed on the DDR5 when testing the lower speeds, then the sloppier timings of DDR5 can massively hold it back, it really needs the higher speed to help counter it’s slower timings. I’ve found that tightening timings usually tends to yield a better performance gain than a faster speed when OC’ing RAM
Exactly!
Punctual reply here, I imagine it depends on what you're doing. Ddr4 can act on data faster, DDR5 can act on more data at once. If you're not moving large chunks in and out of memory constantly, ddr4 is equal to or better than DDR5.
If one kit can move up to 1GB of data and the process takes 1 seconds, and another moves up to 10GB but it takes 2 seconds for the process, then the second kit obviously moves more data. But if the largest transfer is only ever 1MB, the first kit is completing the task twice as fast.
Thats the difference between latency and clock speed. Clock is like your "time budget" , how many things it can do in one second, and latency is how much of that budget it costs to perform a given command.
People look at the max bandwidth alone and conclude DDR5 is just better by default, but if you're doing anything other than benchmarks, you're wasting money most of the time.
Games primarily use the VRAM for everything, if you run out of it and it hits the system ram, it doesn't matter how fast your ram or it's bandwidth, it's gonna be slower than aids. Ideally in that scenario you'd want as little data xfer as possible with the best access times possible.
I think, I might be making this all up, am I making it up? Nah...id never do that...come on what do you take me for? Come on, I'm not that kinda guy come on ..
@@brovid-19 I understand your point, but if you’re making direct comparisons between ram kits and only altering the speeds without a care about timings then you will lose performance and it can directly impact frame rates - this comment is from over a year ago though so I can’t remember exactly why I left it or what happened lmao
I will wait until ddr5 becomes cheaper as it’s really not worth the money for performance currently. Great video as always.
I get there's a difference between 60fps and 144fps but when these cards are averaging into the 200's you just got to feel like there's no point worrying about the numbers by that point.
Excellent video Marcus!! May I know what r your thoughts on XPG Lancer 5200 MHz Ram kits ? It's the only Available DDR5 for my region at $80.
love your style of making videos😍
I agree i really thought ddr5 would have a more of a difference to be honest, however i'm actually really releived about it. I'm running a basic set up witha asus strix 1080ti 11gb 3600mhz ddr4 ram on a old asus strix 6th gen board with a i7 6700k cpu and was really considering a expensive leap to ddr5 ram motherboard cpu & gpu upgrade until I watched this. ddr4 seems to be the way to go which is a lot easier on the wallet to say the least lol. Awesome content by the way man appreciate the solid intel on what gamers should or shouldn't buy this content saved my wallet big time!
Thank you. This helped me make my purchase. Ddr4 3600. Z690 motherboard
This is as super helpful. Just grabbed the i7-13700 with a 4070 and was literally frozen trying to decide if the ddr4 mobo was the right decision.
Was literally thinking of building that setup to. What's your fps 1440p on warzone?
Relatable
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that motherboard model line is one of my favorite motherboard lines.
CL timings at XMP would be relevant and usefull.
This video was an eye opener for me.
Thank you so much! First time builder, pretty much settled on Amd 7700x but motherboard and ram cost for an all white build is expensive. DDR4 sounds like a much better option right now
If you go AMD 7700x you'll need a motherboard that supports the required Am5, therefore your only ram choice is DDR5. Hope that helps
this actually helps because the motherboard im thinking about upgrading to only takes ddr5 for some reason so i’m trying to weigh my options
@Damion Manuel all AMD motherboards* Intel has motherboards that can run both DDR4 and DDR5, although at the time of this comment most companies are starting to move away from intel DDR4 support for their latest motherboards
"it's all about value" after testing on a 4090 and ignoring the GPU cost in the £/frame calculations.
If someone spends £1800 on a GPU, they're spending £450+ on the MB and CPU, and £100+ on the RAM. If spending an extra £100 on RAM nets even a 5% FPS increase, compared to the 4% price increase, that's Better value for money.
I actually find it refreshing how you make it clear you're not going to test at 1080P because of the GPU you're using, similar with the max settings in SOTTR. People focus too much on arbitrary numbers especially when it comes to things like DDR5 and then tend to give bad advice on the back of that. I like how your benchmarks are relative to what people are actually going to be running on a daily basis.
I agree, but I think it's more realistic that somebody would run either 1080p or 4k as a 4k monitors scales down to that. With 1440p you're kinda stuck there. So for real demanding games or games where refresh really matters you might super sample from 1080 with ultra everything and RT on (or is that just me?!)
Generally today's 1440p card is tomorrows 1080p ultra card and so on.
yeah,1080p is already past thing,1440p is new min resolution on 2023
80% of gamers still play on 1080p, what are you talking about?
Thanks for the information i recently bought a pc with a older cpu i7 7700 16 gb ram and a rx 6700xt runs great but wanted to upgrade motherboard to ddr5 but might change my mind. I might stick to getting a new ddr4 motherboard and get a better cpu
WOAH WOAH...as a 2080 ti series owner...I can attest that for WARZONE type games, if you are still at 2666 16 gb. Then going to 3200 32gb does add around 18-25 extra fps with the right setup in that situation. And also given you can sell the 2666 for 50 and get the 3200 for 75...then...for 25 bucks it is price to performance in the 20 series as well.
The courage not to leave your dance/rap scenes in the cutting room floor is admirable.
Thanks PC Centric for saving my money :)
This was a very useful video. It clearly shows at 4k ram speeds do not make a difference. But at lower resolutions ram speeds make more of a difference. It would be good to see the results for a lower end system in 1080p and 1440p. Ie 13600k with a 3080 and 6600xt
i wouldve loved to see that. ive been going down this rabbit hole on whether to get ddr4 or ddr5 ram. i just bought a 13600k and a 3080 yesterday.
@@rinse3x what did you go with and how do you feel about it? I impulse bought a 3060ti and a titanium rated psu and the gpu doesn't fit in my itx case lmao
@@baloneyslice247 3080 and ddr5. Works great. Love it
Hi Marcus
I've been with you from day one, I have just built a i5 13600k with a ddr4 board 3080ti, it's a super rig, thanks for the cost savings, I'm now ordering a 4080 with Xmas pennies. Keep the videos coming, your the best on you tube.
Do not get a 4080!
This is interesting... I upgraded my processor from an i7 8700K to a i9 13900KS so I practically had to upgrade everything anyways. Got the ASUS ROG Maximus Hero z790 mobo so I'm forced to get DDR5 now. Kinda went stupid with my build and got the 128GB of Corsair Vengeance 5600 MHz RAM while running a RTX 3090 which I'm sure my GPU is going to bottleneck my new system for now. I still don't regret it though, as I'm sure my system is major future proof except the GPU.
You should definitely do a mid maxer build where you only build PC parts that give the best bang for buck.
Yeah i would like to see a Budget Rtx 4080 gaming Pc that only go for No bottleneck of the GPU no flashy bells and whistle.
I got myself a DDR4 Rip jaws 4000mhz 32gb cl14 kit and it works fine
Literally been looking every where for something recent on ddr5 as I am on 4 and upgrading cpu and gpu this year which made me wonder if I should make the jump to ddr5 and upgrade everything which would give me two computers all I would need is a power supply and case however there is nothing recent on if you should make the switch or not and after watching this I think I will just stay on ddr4 and wait for ddr6 😂
It's really simple. DDR5 is in the exact same stage and DDR4 was and DDR3 etc etc. In the beginning it's a new, better product BUT the timings are nearly 3-4x higher. The best of the best DDR4 (out of the box w/o manual OC's) is 4000mhz CL14 compared to say G. Skill 6400mhz CL32 - that's the lowest/quickest DDR5 I've seen. I'm likely still going to wait. I have a Z690 DDR4 board with 64gb of 4000mhz CL14 and the price to performance just isn't there. The only situations where it would make sense would be if you are actually building a brand new computer or you're doing something that actually utilizes ram way more than gaming. Current DDR5 prices have dropped a fair bit so now is the time to def buy it but I'm still not blown away why the latencies. $180-190 for 6000mhz 36 / 38 latency. Meh. Then add on another $300-500 for a decent DDR5 mobo.
This video is amazing. Just wish it had came out earlier ;) I bought a 6000MHz, C36 Latency, Corsair Vengeance RGB DDR% kit, for exactly $194. With tax it ended up being 200. I got it on offer, it was about 230 without the deal. Now the prices are down to 197 without tax, and I think that it's pretty good value. It's got good MHz, and a decent latency, plus the price is rather attractive. So would love to hear your thoughts on the descision. Thanks in advanced
I got a Dom Platinum 32GB 5600MHz C36 for 170 for black friday and for the money I had available to spend on my PC, I'm more than happy atm. You could never spend your money "wrong". Just know that since you have a DDR5 board and FAST DDR5 RAM, you'll probably be chillin for the next 5-6 years.
@@rparmar10_ no matter what hardware you have, you will start looking to upgrade by year 3. There is no "chilling" in tech, you're either equipped with the latest and greatest, or you're behind, which seriously doesn't even matter. The term "future proofing" is just a lie you tell yourself to justify your unnecessary over spending on expensive parts you don't actually need. That is spending your money very wrong. DDR5 has no real purpose for gamers, it mostly benefits productivity users (assuming you are a gamer since you're watching this video). That money saved could have gone to something that matters more now, like a better GPU, or just save the money. A bit of advice from a PC builder for 20 years, just buy what you need now, and look for a good deal. By the time you actually have a need to upgrade, all of the stuff you wanna buy now will still be there, their technology will be more matured, and for a much better price. Why are you spending extra money NOW for something you don't need and cannot take advantage of, just so you MIGHT be able to get by in the future? So many new tech are always around the corner, and you wanna LIMIT yourself NOW, away from all the options you can have later??? Rethink you're entire approach, seriously.
@@rparmar10_exactly.
That's mighty expensive, even without considering the DDR5 motherboards are on average $100 more than the DDR4 ones.
DDR5 currently is only for people with money that don't know what to do with them.
@@rparmar10_ that was the idea behind the decision to get DDR5
TY for the video. Too many influencers just influence viewers to blindly jump on to the next new thing.
But it's not even a good comparison in this video.
that mouse mat is sick
Does anyone remeber the kid show gumby from the 80s or 90s? This is the guy right here.
Would you consider testing these components for different applications, like Premier Pro, Lightroom, Photoshop etc? Those are supposedly very RAM dependent
Good question!
We are talking about gaming not for creators which is another animal in the room! GAMING
@@latlanticcityphil yes... We are talking about gaming in this video.. which is why I asked for a video concerning content creation... What's the point you're trying to make lmao
I can tell a huge difference especially multitasking in-between Adobe software, like photoshop and premiere pro. It works so much more seamlessly compared to my older DDR4 sticks and having a few extra tabs open on chrome wont hurt me then either :)
@@iggsterify this is a channel for PC gaming though. Nothing wrong with your question, just asking it in the wrong place.
ddr4 vs ddr5 there is still no difference.
Long live DDR4 still the king in Gaming, performance, and price in building a killer Gaming PC, and I have 5 my self
I play warzone almost exclusively with a 7950x and a 4090. According to my pc I’m using 33 of 64 gigs of my ddr5 ram at 6000 mhz. I get consistent 250-300 fps on very high 2k settings. My Alienware monitors only do 240hz of 2k though.
thanks for posting this im feeling a bit better now about going with my 32gb of 6000mhz ddr5, because after this video and reading alot of the comments i was a bit unsure
Sir, what is your view on Corsair Dominator Platinum ddr4 and Teamgroup T-Force Xtreem ddr4 Ram? I prefer ddr4 so I'm asking. What will I choose from the above choices? Which one is better than the other?
14:01 "I wouldn't spend hours and HOURS....." Exactly, that's why I spent days and DAYS! 🤣🤣🤣
The mouse mat looks great. But I don’t need something that large. I wish you had smaller ones!
i love this chanel i flow you years ::my salutation from Algeria !!great video my friend
I am glad i stuck with a 32gb dual channel ddr4 3600mhz kit. The money you save when compared to DDR5 is pretty much night and day.
Now watch a video from people who actually know what they are talking about. You probably won't be so glad. Especially if gaming.
@@B.D.E. ?? Well, as someone who already built a ddr5 system and a ddr4 system. At 1440p, at best, i saw 5% FPS difference. And you don't have to take my word for it. Look at HUB benchmarks, to Linus, to Gamernexsus, to Jay2cents. Pretty much all of them show there is barely any difference between the two at 1440p, and especially at 4k. Not sure where you're getting your source from? Looks like i am still sticking to being "glad".
What about 1% lows? would be interesting to see if there is a big difference. This affects games more than raw average FPS IMO.
Those are in the benchmarks, ddr5 is pointless for that too.
Got the 7700x at Micro Center with a free kit of DDR5 32gb Ram @ 6000Mhrz :] only paid for the CPU, was a deal they were having there. hehehe
Wow excellent video sir. Love from India.
I am running 12600k with 32gb cl16 3200mhz trident z neo ram and rtx 4080.
For 1440p 144hz it is enough
Just the video i need to watch
Well i just got a new rig with a 3080 and an i5-13600k. Origannlly got ddr4 3600mhz but realized it wasn't compatible with my mobo. i got the corsair vengeance 6000mhz with cl36 and it was only like an extra $60, 32gb of course. So it seems as if the prices are nearly the same, and its harder to save money for a GPU when you can still barely find one msrp.
Is there a video that shows what to do after building my pc? And shows what setting are best?
If anyone in the uk sees this I need help please. I need to know if pc components will drop in prices in january sales.
you would be insane to put ddr4 in a new system now
What about games that actually use ram? Not just basic selection of mainstream games. But games that do a lot of generating, like: teardown, 7 days to die or minecraft.
What abot the influence of Latencies, is ther a differnce between a DDR4 3600-C18 and a 3600-C16 and a 3600-C14 what compaired to DDR4-4000-C14 or a DDR4-4266-C16 or a DDR4-4400-C18 .... or a DDR4-5333-C20, for me as Ryzen 5000 series user speeds above 4000 are not of interest as getting penalties latest there, and latencies are more important on intel perhaps another story.
Thanks dude you saved my pockets
Thanks
Is the case in the description the same case you are using for the video. ?
I saw that same ram 32gb ddr5 for 100 bucks and that was the easiest future proof for my new build, why not tbh.
Where it mattered (like not limited elsewhere), I think the DDR5 performance difference was unexpectedly huge! 6 or 7% increase in FPS is more than most overclocking of CPU or GPU will deliver despite costing 100s of additional watts. But that's just me.
if my budget of gpu is 4080, i would rather save everything a bit more for a 4090.
@@ke-channel9876and you will sacrifice 5 to 7% performance boost cause by ddr5?
Typical things people say to lie to themselves they did not get tricked into paying extra for nothing
@@netfreak6993 You really think DDR4 3600 will hold back the 4090 more than DDR5 will boos 4080? Your brain must be extra smooth.
@@heikghey captain, land it to me straight, got a desktop 2 months ago with ddr4 3600 and now thinking of getting ddr5 6000, tell me, will i be wasting money and neurons?
It would be nice to have benchmarks for lower graphics settings which wouldn't actually bottleneck at GPU level and probably yield a performance increase on the faster memory. Max settings is good for showing off a new GPU, but out in the real world, a lot of gamers would sacrifice graphical fidelity for raw FPS gains.
I bought a new PC last week: an i5-13600KF with 32 GB of DDR4 3600 MHz memory and an ASUS Strix Z690-A Gaming WiFi D4 motherboard. I did consider DDR5 memory but the price plus more expensive motherboards pushed me towards DDR4 which I think was a good choice after watching numerous DDR4 vs DDR5 comparison videos on RUclips. I play games at 1440p with maxed out settings and RT, if available, on a RTX 3080 so I feel I have a well-balanced system for what it cost me. Yes, I could have future-proofed it by investing in DDR5 now but, honestly, by the time I next upgrade my PC, DDR6 or DDR7 will be around as my previous PC (i7-4770K with 16 GB DDR3 1600 memory) last me almost 10 years!
Did pretty much the same and more than happy as I reused my DDR4 3600 RAM so saved a fair bit on the motherboard CPU upgrade. Luckily I bought the Strix-D4 as well with the cashback offer from ASUS so even more savings...
Future proofing is a myth. Coming from a PC builder for 20+ years, just buy what you need now, and use that saved money on better parts. By the time you actually need to upgrade, there will be many more choices for a much better price. There is absolutely no reason to buy parts that you don't need and can't take advantage of now, just to bet that you will be ok with those said parts in the future. In a way, you are actually limiting yourself from the many options you can have in the future, and that's the only "future-proof" you'll get.
Same.
I went 13600k and DDR5 because I run servers while gaming, I can definately tell a huge difference from DDR4, but that's just me most people wouldnt notice anything at all. It does make me comfortable though spending that money on DDR5 because personally I think it's worth it, and while there's no thing such as future proofing, I am quite confident I will be able to use my ram sticks in a few years time without feeling held back because of my motherboard choice, like I did with my previous RAM sticks which had 2666MHz.. So a huge upgrade..
I also do work with my PC, so things such as Photoshop work so much more cleanly. But just for gaming obviously you should wait to buy DDR5 thats what I'd say.
@@DubboU i get what your saying but using a little more then you need on lets say a graphic card maybe mean that in 1 or 2 years will be very playable and enjoyable, instead of having to buy a new graphics card just because you went from CSGO which can be played on anything to a card that has to run elden ring or God of War. Personally i bought a 2080 in 2018 and used 100$ extra as opposed to a 2070, and im very happy with the decision even though i didnt really need the 2080 until cyberpunk came out. "future proofing" is most likely going from 1700 to 1900 or 2000 not going from a 700 build to a 3000 dollar build in my experience.
10:24 I heard this and remembered seeing people actually setting their DDR5 to 3600 so they can have 128gb of ram function in AM5
Thanks!
Thanks for the testing. I use ddr4 16 gb 3000 corsair.
I currently have 4 sticks of 16GB DDR4 and I purchased 4 sticks of 16GB DDR5 so that I could test 64GB vs 64GB. Updating the MB to socket 1700, I couldn't get all 4 sticks of DDR5 to work at 6000. They would only work at base speed of 3600 or if I removed 2 sticks and dropped down to 32GB. Granted, you don't really need 64GB to game but I wanted the RAM. Very disappointed so I returned the DDR5 mobo and ram. The DDR4 is only about 5 fps slower so I didn't lost much but since I needed a new mobo anyway for my 13900, I wanted to upgrade the ram too. I guess I'll upgrade the RAM when I upgrade the cpu next time.
For now I'm maintaining that a 3600MT/s CL16 kit of DDR4 will equal a £200 6000MT/s CL36 kit of DDR5 in MOST situations.
hey i really need help with this question someone please let me know. i was looking online for RAM cause i'm in the making of buying my first pc and i wanted to know if the RAM says AMD only and not AMD and intel will the ram still be compatible with my intel build? or do i need it to say intel for it to be compatible? it's pretty confusing to me since i don't have much knowledge on RAM.
Ahhhhhh it's good to get a xmas gift from somebody and it is a 32gb ddr5, but not worth buying it from your own pocket
Is that the cyberpunk 2077 mouse from oh I think it was razer? If so I live it always wanted one since I've been a huge cyberpunk fan for years
Dud, you need to lay off the caffeine. I could only handle half of this video.....
I feel like if your gunna build a new pc you should get ddr5 just to not be outdated as quick even if the difference is slight rn
question you didnt have the problem like the others of sticking 4 sticks of ddr5 and bios looping and never making it to the OS while in XMP form?
Prices have gotten pretty close. It looks like it's aroun 95$ vs 130$ (canadian). So... for such a little difference I think future-proofing makes sense. Though with the new potential CAMM standard, maybe DDR5 is already dead in the water.
This is exactly why I haven't upgraded my RAM to DDR5 yet. No need. Marginal (at best) gains for more price. The only logical reason for buying DDR5 right now is if you are currently building a "future proof" rig that you plan on keeping for many years to come. Otherwise, if you are in my boat, where upgrading is the option, then it just isn't worth it. Not yet anyway. One day that extra speed will be worth it though.
I completely agree with your future proofing comment cause I'm in the situation where I need to future proof my incoming PC, as my older one is DDR3. I agree with you on specifically your 'one day' comment. Which is correct, at some point (like it happened with DDR2vsDDR3 and DDR3vsDDR4) the speeds and capabilities of DDR5 are going to exceed anything DDR4 can do. Probably a few gens from now. So, you're right, if you are in your position, hold back and then when you actually see it surpassing DDR4 speeds permanently, then you can go for it.
Depends on your current pc. For people like me who are still on ddr3, it makes sense to go straight to ddr5 than ddr4 seeing as this is the last generation of ddr4:)
@@xyr3s Yes, but that is kinda what I was getting at. Someone coming from DDR3 is basically building a whole new rig at this point. At least the core MOBO components, that is. So yes, I agree it depends on the specific PC. I am just saying that for me personally, it makes no sense at the moment. DDR5 isn't going to give me any substantial gains over what I have. One day it will though, so I am holding out. Those, like you, that are moving up generations and having to make a huge change with core components, you might as well go straight to DDR5 to future proof your system. So we are basically saying the same thing, just in different ways.
@@BarbarianAncestry Definitely. I am thinking that once 14th or even 15th gen Intel chips drop, I will then look at upgrading my system. At that point, DDR5 will be the standard, so it would make sense for me personally. Right now I am going to ride out my 11700k with DDR4 because it does the perfectly well. Probably will take this time to focus on upgrading to a 40 series GPU at some point (waiting to see if the 4070 will be a value buy or if I should wait until a 4080 gets more reasonably priced), even though my 3070 has served me well. Then when the time comes, I will be ready to make the jump to DDR5 with a new Mobo, CPU, SSD, etc. But everything is tentative. I am more in the mindset of upgrading when I need to, not when I want to. We will see though. I get the "itch" to buy parts at the most random times lol
@@lttlejordan23 :)
Running a 13700k with a 7200mhz kit. Seems alright. But that’s just 2 sticks