Surface Pro X Teardown! Most Repairable Surface Pro Ever??
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- Опубликовано: 28 авг 2024
- Recently we tore down the Surface Laptop 3 and found that Microsoft had greatly improved it’s repairability, it went from being one of the worst devices we had ever seen to earning a respectable 5 out of 10.
Today, we got our hands on the brand new Surface Pro X. With a sleek redesigned form factor and a brand new anodized aluminum case, we’re wondering if the Pro X got any repairability upgrades, and there’s only one way to find out, To tear it down.
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Wow it's as if Microsoft saw your videos and tried to actually improve their repairability instead of making it worse!
That's why I love channels like ifixit or Jerry rig everything, most companies don't want their products scoring badly on popular websites or RUclips channels, and most of them try to improve the build quality and reparability of their devices.
This is great for consumers.
(PS : I'm not a native English speaker so sorry for mistakes)
But still there is the risk of breaking the display
I would say the real reasons they made it modular are: To make Apple look shameful and to attract cooperates to get this thing, knowing that no privacy information can be leaked out when they sell these things after a couple of years instead of putting them through paper shredder
Like apple...
and if buy this one... i will buy macpro13 and setup win10 after...
They should have called it "Surface Pro Shield"...
MS CEO: "how did you come up with that name?"
Product Manager: "well... everything is covered in shields..."
Microsoft: Kill em like they do in that movie "Anti-Trust" so we can steal the naming idea and not deal with him suing for rights
The replaceable ssd is alone a upgrading point for some
keep in mind that its only a 30mm nvme, which is not a very common size, good luck finding many replacements
@@tylercgarrison It's not that hard to find, it's unusual, but they definitely exist, which is better than nothing in my book.
@@tylercgarrison True, but it's small enough to deter OEM's from soldering SSD's....... Microsoft charges a ridiculous price for their memory upgrades.....Toshiba just launched a 1TB 2230mm nvme ssd...microsoft only offers 512GB
@@TheFPSPower Hiya, a little help please,
I tried searching for '30mm nvme' and only kept getting results for the longer nvme ssds.
Could you please tell me what keywords I should be using to find the ssd for the surface x?
thanks
@@kninezbanks Hiya, a little help please,
I tried searching for '30mm nvme' and only kept getting results for the longer nvme ssds.
Could you please tell me what keywords I should be using to find the ssd for the surface x?
thanks
I would love to see what devices you guys at iFixit use on a daily basis. Do you think it would be possible to do a video about it and explaining why you chose that particular device?
They use framework laptops
Why has nobody done a Surface Pro 8 teardown?
This is a good video. Short, informative and concise.
the only things i replace on a laptop are the hard drive, ram and battery
That's what most people do. The SSD is a huge change and welcomed. But they could have added pull tabs or secured the battery in differently. The RAM is still fairly easy in this just time consuming.
Battery is non replaceable, access to internals requires hours of risky screen and metal shield removing. To reassemble will be even more pain in the ass to replace those shields. SSD type is hard to find and very expensive. So how does it get a 6/10? That's just bizarre...
6/10 seems generous considering the risks involved with screen removal and all those shields.
But it's still possible. And I'm sure that the easy swap SSD and the fact that tons of the components aren't screwed on is a huge help for the score..
Perhaps you don't have to take off *all* the shields if only one components needs replacement
The scores seem to be tailored to the device type, which in this case is a tablet PC. If this was scored as a laptop it would probably be a 2/10.
@@unarmedduck surface laptop still got 5/10 with the same shields and battery glued in. I think they give a better score because previous model was so terrible
@@jm1835 The surface laptop doesn't require the awkward removal of the LCD panel just to reach the internals though.
holy shit that removable ssd design. the entire laptop and tablet industries can take a lesson.
So on the “downside” you’re not going to say anything about the heat shields you say that take “hours” to remove and aren’t reusable. I’d say that’s something big to include
I think they didn't hold that against the device because they aren't essential components themselves but are more to protect essential components from wear and tear.
Those shields are necessary that's why.
@@KMon1111IND yes exactly otherwise the surface will thermal throttle because of no heat dissipation.
@@adityathakur7604 so why don't other laptops have these "shields? They are only there to discourage removal and prove violation of warranty if removed
These look like RF shields. A must have for interference certification especially as it is a mobile device and not a laptop
Looks like a good tear down, I been fixing all my other electronics and I have been on the repairability scale
Surface Pro 7 teardown video please
I loved this Inside. This looks like apple macbook air
This is a positive change.
Hope next they made removable ram
And they say only Apple cares about the internal beauty of components~
Yes! I don't know why I care so much about what the inside looks like, since I never see it, but something about knowing that much attention to detail went into the inner-workings of my computer makes me happy.
SURFACE 8 tear down pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
So, I'm new to the whole surface game, but I have a few questions.
1. If I take all of this apart, and I take the shields off the parts inside, can I put all the bits back together again?
2. If I do take it completely apart, can I interchange any RAM or add more? I REALLY want more RAM.
3. Does the screen attach back together after you rip it off the glue?
4. Last but not least, can someone tell me just how much of this laptop is interchangeable? (the inside parts)
I would love to see a variation of lineage OS on this as it seems like an even better android tablet or chromebook when there's native support instead of x86 emulation
Windows also supports native ARM applications. Maybe with a windows android subsystem or emulator or devs recompiling their apps for ARM...
@@nachik09 Interesting. Would definitely like to see the play store but on windows
You can run ARM Linux if you want more native ARM programs
ok well it's not "hours" later, more like 10 minutes
I want to see how to swap the ssd. i bought a same size ssd, swpped it on my surface pro x. but it won't be able to read it.
Other the shield the problem of this Surface Is that the RAM Is soldered on the motherboard. IMHO the true reparabilty of this PC Is or 3-4/10 .
nice job, when would the teardown for surface pro 7 be up? kinda curious whether pro 7 has removable ssd now
I wonder how much those proprietary SSD’s will cost from Microsoft
They're not proprietary, they're m.2 drives in an unusual length. It's around the size of a wifi card, when they're usually much bigger.
they look like msata, and they pretty cheap right now.
Actually it's quite possible it can be an NVMe SSD, since previously Microsoft had already sourced BGA chip SSDs from Samsung (specifically the PM971a, identified in the Surface Pro 5 teardown as KUS020203M-B000), most likely the SSD in this tablet would have that style of SSD in a M.2 FF.
Edit: Toshiba is the only one I found on Google that has an SSD in that such form factor: www.servethehome.com/toshiba-bg4-single-package-m-2-2230-30mm-nvme-ssd-review/
www.tomshardware.com/reviews/toshiba-bg4-m.2-nvme-ssd-review,6330.html
A guy already upgraded those SSD on reddit. They're just the shortest form of M.2 ssd ( wifi card length).
It's a 2230(30mm) SSD and normal long SSDs are 2280(80mm)
Im Thinking now Apple has just mainboard and battery 🙃 and here so so much tecnic
Microsoft didn't liked the surface destructive laptop teardown from the past year so they preferred to put magnets instead of watching that kind of destruction of their creation, is amazing 😂
No, it's because of European law
aldo s wich law? I didn't saw any law of repairability 🤔
I didn't follow it but if you watch Louis Rossmann, the advocate of repair. You will find some information if you watch enough of his videos
I hope that Surface Pro 8 will share the construction of this
I'm surprised I still can't find a teardown of the surface pro 8. I wanna see how the cooling was done this time (I own an i7 one)
love it!!!
I'd be all over this if it weren't for the anodized black aluminum... I don't like things that show high contrast scratches. I prefer straight silver.
What about Surface pro 7 ?? Does it follow the same path on repairiblity like pro X??....
Her: buys 500$ laptop
Also her: *"Nothing personal kid."*
I know most shielding is used to suppress RF interference, but why do Microsoft devices always have SO many of them in comparison to something like an iPad or MacBook?
love the tear down but the surface pro x has been out for over a year and i cannot find a replacement screen for it anywhere in Canada. if any one know how i can purchase one let me know asap.
i have a asus mid-range laptop and its hinges had become stiff after a year. can you tell us how to fix it.
do they use lubricants in the hinges or it's just the dust that makes it hard to move.
this kind of problem is quite common for budget problems for budget laptops irrespective of the brand, i guess.
When i took the surface pro x out of the box it slipped out of my hand and the display crashed. Where can i buy a new screen?
What background music are you using?
How is this any different than surface pro 7 vs surface pro x and such vast difference in repairability score
It should have a worse score, I replace batteries and screens in surface's and this one is much worse than all the surfaces that come before it. Some of the screws are a larger torx bit than other surfaces they haven't made any significant changes that should give it a score above a pro 4
I hope doesn't have active cooling system. As it is unclear from this picture at 1:03
0:34 is that an m.2 2230 ssd? that looks shorter than 2242...
I had a surface pro 5th gen. The battery went off. Microsoft : The battery can NOT be replaced, they proposed to replace the whole device for 450 bucks. I tried the repair, I cracked the screen, the screen replacement 180 bucks. I gave up my surface pro 5th gen. I lost plenty of third party software licenses + the device itself. Will never buy a Microsoft hardware ever again until they make totally serviceable as Dell and Lenovo. Now in process to get the Lenovo X1 tablet
There are no details to unpack the receiver so that it can carefully unpack the device without any error in disassembling the pieces
0:26 what is this type of SSD called ? What do I write on amazon to buy this ?
is that drive a 2230 or 2242?
I would give it 4.5 to 5 at most. unless u can replace the battery without glued stuff, nothing should get more than a 5.
You will be able to upgrade the SSD only if you can find another one like this 🤣
@Zacchi4000 it's nvme but the length of the stick is not standard... it's shorter
You can't upgrade even if you find another. You can only swam same capacity.
@@imho4990 that's not true, stop spreading fake news. Standard 2230 NGFF key m work fine.
@@bishal_k_roy it is standard, it's 2230. The NGFF allows for 2230, 2262, 22110.
@Zacchi4000 it is
You can't buy these parts individually, can you? I want more ram...
On the Lenovo X1 tablet the battery is accessable without removing the display adhesive, a new one can be bought and swapped out.
So, I'm still not buying any disposable Surface Crap. Try harder, like you really mean it!
But how easy is it to upgrade the SSD and hace the device in the same working order?
Aren't there a whole bunch of partitions, folders and other Microsofty security crap?
You can download a usb-stick-bootable image with all the surface stuff included directly from microsoft, using a valid surface's serial number. I did it the other day before giving my old surface 7 to my dad
@@Kowalskithegreat Ok, thanks. What about the Windows activation product key? Did Microsoft require you to enter any product keys after the new install?
@@PushyPawn it activated itself I didn't have to do anything
do the zenbook pro duo
Really nice
It’s not a Microsoft product if its not full of component shields
which is a good thing. RF Shields for good EMI protection.
Hope I never need to service mine,...so far it just suffers from poor battery life.
can you try Huawei mate x and huawei MatePad Pro with new m pen, Test write something，please :)please:) please:)and It's so great for vlog too:)
I wonder, if the device get stolen, is it possible for a thief to just replace the ssd and sell the device again like brand new, knowing that all the data and secure information saved in that ssd?
There could be board firmware locks, but I doubt MS implemented that.
Tom Chai So it won’t have the ability to find the laptop or secure the laptop from a thief with password and face unlock, if the thief replace the ssd? So sad, no privacy and security ☹️☹️
Bitlocker my friend, same as a laptop.
Nguyễn Hồng Hải how does it work?
@@wizuraihakim2816 Bitlocker means all the data in the drive will be encrypted on the hard drive level, before window login this is how business are encrypted so it's miles better than average mobile solutions.
Wanna see the surface pro 7 torn down
SURFACE PRO 7 PLEASE!
iPad Pro 2019/2020 vs surface pro X
Batteries wear out over time so this is totally a useless device in 3-4 years when you need to replace the battery.
Right around the time I would buy a new computer anyway
Huawei nova 5T
Why is there so much crackling in your audio?
The removable SSD is not as nice as it sounds. Most m.2 SSDs are 2242 or 2280 (i.e. too long)
It's actually surprisingly hard to find good m.2 2230 SSDs for consumer purchase.
zack from jerryrigeverything left the group😂😂
AMERICANS WHATS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ELEMENTARY,MIDDLE AND HIGH SCHOOL?!?
To me it looks like a 4 out of 10. You guys have given a 6 out of 10 to the switch lite. I don't think they are at same repairability as switch lite is much easier to repair than this.
6? Seriously?
battery off mobo. no thanks
Great 😇😻
They barked so much about repairability then for what reason they had to glue down the battery?😤
I assume that they are getting the case included with the battery. The battery will act as a guide for the rest of the components like motherboard and such to be placed so it will not slide around and reduce manufacturing/repair error. And besides, if they need to ship something, its safer to ship the entire case with the battery inside it since it will be less likely to be bumped around and get damaged.
I don't think that makes any sense. There are a lot of other options for fixing a thing in a place. I think they only wanted to be a nice guy without being actually nice.
this assessment is wrong. you can't give a 6 out of 10 on reparability when the battery is glued in like that. true score should is 2.
3 max.
the battery will be the first thing to go, and when it does, 99% of users will have no choice but to throw away the entire device or pay microsoft some ridiculous replacement cost. no one should buy these devices.
I wish I had a Surface Pro X....
They tear a perfectly good Surface Pro X apart in front of my eyes
Gosh. Your upgradebility levels are so random.
SQ1 is a Crap!!!!
Apple: That's liegal
I'm kinda _really_ curious how many people _actually_ give a shit about the repairability of such a device other than those stupid enough to drop it. It's like the Bugatti Veyrons reported top speed of 431 km/h - Who needs this? Less than even the 1%ers. What's the PRO? You get high scores in Magazines that give a shit. What's the CON? It drives production cost up like mad and does little for the vast majority of end consumers that treat their devices with care like they should.
anything glued together is not repairable. 0 out of 10
eighth
You CAN'T upgrade SSD. You can only replace same capacity.
no you can
That's not true. Stop spreading fake news.
@@valyushalee2320 It's true.
@@imho4990 source?
She has a great voice, but I'm sorry her arms needs to be waxed
@@user-pr9pq8en2d r/whoosh
Did you watch the video? It's obvious a guy did the teardown and she voiced over it. Learn to understand satire lol