Correct, these are Micron! The Surface Pro uses SK Hynix. You can find a link to the full chip ID’s at the bottom of the blog post: www.ifixit.com/News/96998/from-0-10-to-8-10-microsoft-puts-repair-front-and-center
Bottom cover held with magnets... this is the sort of attention to detail you rarely see from PC vendors these days. It's clear that Microsoft is taking repairability very seriously. Thumbs up.
Replacing the 256GB SSD on my Laptop 7 with 2TB later today. I read the service manual yesterday, but your teardown really assuaged any worries I had about the process. Love how easy MS made accessing the internals. In previous generations, you basically destroyed the rubber feet to get them off.
@@asianstud7 I asked Microsoft. They will also confirm on their live chat. They confirmed the SL7 voids warranty this series. I noticed on this teardown there is a silver sticker on the ssd. Maybe that’s how they know.
Who remembers when "Surface" was a smart table, before Microsoft rebranded the name into a line of computers? That table was pretty cool, but I don't know a single business that owned one.
I remember those tables. It was cool as heck, I thought we'd see them in coffee shops and stuff at some point but that never happened. It must've been real expensive
Yeah I remember those, you could lay out documents on them like they were physical things and the idea was to work collaboratively sitting around it. Turning it into an entire brand was a good idea though because it’s a good name.
Much better than previous Surface devices. I remember when Surface Laptops could only be accessed via destroying them, making them consumable (when the battery died, you couldn't replace it) and I also remember the Surface Pro batteries being glued in so tightly, an inverted pint glass could be stuck to the chassis (via the remaining adhesive) with no problems.
A score of 8 seems a bit high for the Surface Pro when removing the screen is still such a pain. That paper-thin glass is still a problem for all but the most experienced techs and basically necessitates a screen replacement if the battery goes bad. In contrast, the Samsung and Apple tablets have much thicker glass and much thinner adhesive which means the screen can be removed without damage.
This isn't the case. The method ifixit uses to remove the screen is not the easiest, microsoft actually recommends using a display debonding jig and opening pick, which allows easy separation of the display with no heat required, and anyone would be able to do it. You can see this in microsofts own disassembly videos of the recent surface pros.
@@fjjwfp7819 Those Microsoft videos are made to make the device look easy to repair. I can tell you from experience that the $60 little jig does almost nothing to help me when I'm trying to open a 2+ year old device full of normal wear and tear with old adhesive and micro-cracks on the display threatening to ruin my day. This could easily be avoided by making the glass thicker or making the adhesive thinner.
He did say that the Surface Pro was rated by the tablet repairability score as opposed to the Laptop repairability score that the Surface Laptop was rated against. The Tablet repairability score most likely assumes heat to remove a glued-down screen. An 8 is reasonable considering the internals when calculated to a tablet score, but a 6 would be more accurate if you treat it like a laptop
@@leonro Nope, no change is needed from Qualcomm. LPCAMM2 will allow OEMs to design PCBs with upgradeable LPDDR5/5X/5T. But LPCAMM2 is very new, hence won't be mainstream until 2025-2026
@@leonro no, it's a choice of the manufacturers. The RAM is not part of the CPU like you would see with simpler SoC designs that use a package-on-package approach. Board manufacturers could have opted for LPCAMM2, but I guess since that is so new, no one dared to do that and take on the additional cost.
Cost thing, that and power/speed/heat/etc etc etc. LPCAMM2 should fix most, but not all. RAM will always have plusses being near or on the processing chip, and adding connectors complicates that tremendously. So, it's a trade off: 1. Badass speed/power consumption goodness, or 2. repairability. The ram issue goes even deeper with developer thoughtfulness on ram usage, and OS abilities to control ram. Today, just buy the right machine to start with IMHO. It's kind of like expecting a Yugo to go as fast as a Tesla. Sure, you COULD do that, but it's going to require a lot of work and money. Just like replacing ram chips soldered to the board. Sure you could do that....
unreal! Here I am, trying to figure out how best to dissolve/soften industrial-strength glue to replace the 2 batteries in my Surface Book 2. Good on Microsoft for listening to its users and making such a dramatic improvement in reparability.
I didn't expect to say this, having personal experience with previous generations of the Surface Pro, but kudos to Microsoft's hardware team for these designs. Huge leaps forward in terms of repairability, even though there's still room for improvement. If only their OS wasn't becoming more of a spyware and losing useful settings and features with each update...
Great teardown! Clear explanations of everything. Thank you! Microsoft has really improved their repairability and I hope this puts pressure on other Windows vendors to follow. Apple does what it wants and likely won't take serious steps unless staying closed severely impacts its financials.
If anyone could help me answer a question, I was wondering if the ssd card can be removed and slotted into another surface pro 11 and be able to function as normal. In the event the original hardware has failed.
Neat that they put QR codes to their service manual pages, but Dell and Lenovo have had service manuals for their professional laptops for ages now (maybe not so much for consumer-oriented models....).
I would have loved to see some mention of the surface laptop screen replacement. Aside from the battery, that is the most common repair that most people will need. I suspect that it isn't very pleasant if it wasn't even mentioned by a Microsoft partner.
The manuals were released on day 1, but I had some more issues in upgrding the SSD on my laptop since the recovery image is not yet available.
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Until is it, the only option is likely to be to image your original SSD with something like Clonezilla and write that image to another SSD. And you may have to use another computer to do that because of a lack of drive cloning software that will run on Arm.
I would still prefer they engineer some sort of solution for the Surface Pro that does not require you to get busy trying to pry the screen up with guitar picks. It feels like it would be perilously easy to shatter the screen while doing that, if you're not careful.
@@michaelthomashamilton why is it easy to not be “perilously” clumsy so as to not shatter screens when performing simple repairs? Have to just not be a klutz I guess
Is the SSD replaceable in the Surface Laptop 7 15", you show it being taken out of its sock and obviously it is a 2230 form factor. Reason for asking is that the difference between a 512Gb and 256Gb model is 300 CAD which I can easily match. Unless there is a special sector on the drive and is not easily replaceable.....
Huge question! What type of keyboard does the surface laptop use? Is it actually reliable or will it fail once dust start building up under the keyboard keys like apple's butterfly keys did? I've looked online about this and no answer 🥲
The laptop looks like it could accomodate a 2nd SSD. All that's needed is the connector and a screw to hold it! A bit bummer it's not populated. Wonder if other components for it are missing or one could just fit the missing connector and make something to hold the 2nd SSD...
Excellent teardown. I am pleasantly surprised at how repairable the Surface Laptop is, especially. Those ARM PC motherboards are also quite small compared to the one on my Zen 2 13" laptop from 2020. Normally the RAM is stacked onto the Qualcomm SoC die itself, but I assume it is separate here to make it easier to make different RAM SKUs for the products.
This is interesting, I am glad to see Microsoft doing this with their laptops. I hope this is a continued trend, and that we see other manufacturers adopt the same consumer friendliness
8 out of 10 for what exactly. That they tell you which screw to use? Soldered cpu and ram and the only replaceable stuff is the bettery. So what is the big deal?
At midnight, @ Best Buy website i ordered MBP 14 that was on sale for 1500. If Im later yold order dod not through, i might be tempted with Surface laptop 7 on sale. Major selling point is consumer repairability. Apple is certainly not about that.
What Microsoft uses to run x86 applications on ARM is not an *emulation* layer but a *translation* layer which basically converts the system calls into language that ARM can understand instead of having an ARM CPU pretending to be x86
Nice job Microsoft! I like the changes. Now I am just waiting for upgradeable ram and CPUs in devices like these and I am sold. In the mean time I will hang onto my five year old tablet and keep using my regular nice and upgradeable laptop. (Too bad I can't upgrade the cpu or gpu. Whatever, change is slow.)
Big props to Microsoft for the laptop, but I think the 8 on the tablet is too generous with the screen the still glued down. "Everyone does it" is not a good excuse and it never will be.
I'm not a computer engineer, but I'm pretty sure having your heat pipes run directly over the battery isn't a good idea. Especially on something as powerful as a surface pro 11. Then again it's not that powerful to begin with.
I may be wrong but from the video it looked like the battery is split into two cells & the heat pipe runs between them with some room to spare on both sides so I don't think its heat affects the battery much
"Apple don't even announce when they intend to release manuals for a device." Actually, with Apple, you know from Day 1 exactly when they'll release the service manuals: NEVER. (Or even if they do release them, the most failure-prone things you'd need to repair aren't repairable.)
what about the screen assembly on the Laptop 7? Screens can be repaired when they have fault on their motherboards and they are very hard to work with because they are fragile and difficult to separate from the shell..
Microsoft is clearly getting ahead of any Right to repair regulations coming rom the EU and the US. Either way, that's so awesome. You can swap out the battery in 4-5 years and keep using your laptop like it's new. Not to mention less than $100 gets you a 1TB SSD on Amazon and you can get rid of the 256GB, making the Surface Laptop $1,300 for 16GB/1TB. I f*cking wish my MacBook Pro could do that. :D
Imagine Linus Torvalds trying to sell Linux with a custom PC he makes. I think Microsoft should support existing ARM hardware, like those guys who made it run on a Lumia Phone, or that other attempt for Raspberry. Both sucked because no drivers. That's where Microsoft should help.
All cool and so but I still won't buy an ARM based laptop until it has socketed RAM and storage. Punkt Ende Aus!
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These do have socketed storage. RAM will never be in conventional sockets because it's LPDDR5x, which can't be put in SODIMM sockets (the super-low voltage means that the noise margins are too low for that), but Microsoft could have used the new LPCAMM2 form factor.
hmm, i think we have to thank Framework for showing others how it can be done - surface laptop feels very similar the biggest test will be parts availability
3:43 isn't it Micron RAM?
You mentioned SK Hynix
Correct, these are Micron! The Surface Pro uses SK Hynix. You can find a link to the full chip ID’s at the bottom of the blog post: www.ifixit.com/News/96998/from-0-10-to-8-10-microsoft-puts-repair-front-and-center
Bottom cover held with magnets... this is the sort of attention to detail you rarely see from PC vendors these days. It's clear that Microsoft is taking repairability very seriously. Thumbs up.
No glue holding the feet on either, that's one of the big annoyance points with hidden screws too.
its a new europe union rule , xd other company fallow
From nightmare to repair to solid 8 score, WOW!
It looks like MS is making progress compared to previous models. Good on them!
Replacing the 256GB SSD on my Laptop 7 with 2TB later today. I read the service manual yesterday, but your teardown really assuaged any worries I had about the process. Love how easy MS made accessing the internals. In previous generations, you basically destroyed the rubber feet to get them off.
Nice. How much does that 2tb storage cost you?
Be aware the surface laptop 7 voids warranty if upgrading SSD. Unlike previous models
@@darren6028 how do you know this? And how they gonna know anyway?
@@asianstud7 I asked Microsoft. They will also confirm on their live chat. They confirmed the SL7 voids warranty this series. I noticed on this teardown there is a silver sticker on the ssd. Maybe that’s how they know.
@@darren6028 oh I see. So they give you the option to upgrade but will void the warranty if you do. That's a rock and a hard place
Who remembers when "Surface" was a smart table, before Microsoft rebranded the name into a line of computers? That table was pretty cool, but I don't know a single business that owned one.
I remember those tables. It was cool as heck, I thought we'd see them in coffee shops and stuff at some point but that never happened. It must've been real expensive
I remember the first such table. It didn't use touch sensors, it used cameras to track hand movement. One step up from a Ballmer-era concept video.
I saw one at a lounge. Was pretty cool… had a 4player game on it… each side was a player. I can’t remember much though.
Yeah I remember those, you could lay out documents on them like they were physical things and the idea was to work collaboratively sitting around it. Turning it into an entire brand was a good idea though because it’s a good name.
I don't want to remember the surface rt. But we have 3 at home still (3 siblings)
"Bald" of you talking about my grandpa's hair
I see what you did there
@@iFixitYourself He barely shaved that joke in there.
Much better than previous Surface devices. I remember when Surface Laptops could only be accessed via destroying them, making them consumable (when the battery died, you couldn't replace it) and I also remember the Surface Pro batteries being glued in so tightly, an inverted pint glass could be stuck to the chassis (via the remaining adhesive) with no problems.
A score of 8 seems a bit high for the Surface Pro when removing the screen is still such a pain. That paper-thin glass is still a problem for all but the most experienced techs and basically necessitates a screen replacement if the battery goes bad. In contrast, the Samsung and Apple tablets have much thicker glass and much thinner adhesive which means the screen can be removed without damage.
Yeha, 5-7 would be more realistic as the score
This isn't the case. The method ifixit uses to remove the screen is not the easiest, microsoft actually recommends using a display debonding jig and opening pick, which allows easy separation of the display with no heat required, and anyone would be able to do it. You can see this in microsofts own disassembly videos of the recent surface pros.
I was going to say 8 seems low for the laptop. It seems about as good as the Framework... what more could you realistically want?
@@fjjwfp7819 Those Microsoft videos are made to make the device look easy to repair. I can tell you from experience that the $60 little jig does almost nothing to help me when I'm trying to open a 2+ year old device full of normal wear and tear with old adhesive and micro-cracks on the display threatening to ruin my day.
This could easily be avoided by making the glass thicker or making the adhesive thinner.
He did say that the Surface Pro was rated by the tablet repairability score as opposed to the Laptop repairability score that the Surface Laptop was rated against. The Tablet repairability score most likely assumes heat to remove a glued-down screen. An 8 is reasonable considering the internals when calculated to a tablet score, but a 6 would be more accurate if you treat it like a laptop
we also need to upgrade the ram modules like SSDs
Hence LPCAMM2.
That's more on Qualcomm to make designs with detached RAM chips than on Microsoft. All snapdragons so far have them stuck on the chip.
@@leonro Nope, no change is needed from Qualcomm. LPCAMM2 will allow OEMs to design PCBs with upgradeable LPDDR5/5X/5T. But LPCAMM2 is very new, hence won't be mainstream until 2025-2026
@@leonro no, it's a choice of the manufacturers. The RAM is not part of the CPU like you would see with simpler SoC designs that use a package-on-package approach. Board manufacturers could have opted for LPCAMM2, but I guess since that is so new, no one dared to do that and take on the additional cost.
Cost thing, that and power/speed/heat/etc etc etc. LPCAMM2 should fix most, but not all. RAM will always have plusses being near or on the processing chip, and adding connectors complicates that tremendously. So, it's a trade off: 1. Badass speed/power consumption goodness, or 2. repairability. The ram issue goes even deeper with developer thoughtfulness on ram usage, and OS abilities to control ram. Today, just buy the right machine to start with IMHO. It's kind of like expecting a Yugo to go as fast as a Tesla. Sure, you COULD do that, but it's going to require a lot of work and money. Just like replacing ram chips soldered to the board. Sure you could do that....
Wow, I’m actually much more impressed than I thought I’d be.
Good to see more players really getting into repairability like this.
Excellent progress, I am excited for the future.
unreal! Here I am, trying to figure out how best to dissolve/soften industrial-strength glue to replace the 2 batteries in my Surface Book 2. Good on Microsoft for listening to its users and making such a dramatic improvement in reparability.
Why can't Apple make an easy repairable device like that
they can, they just won't
"Durability"
@@Pray4MePls23 "stupidity" (Apple that is...)
Money.
Microsoft sells a bunch of these computers to corporate customers who want repairability. Apple doesn't.
Awesome to see for me, that the Hardware on the Surface Laptop including battery is switchable and reperable. Thats nice.
I've been waiting for this video. Repairability should be just as important as any other feature when purchasing an expensive electronic device.
The repairabilty is a big reason why I bought the Surfact Laptop 7, Plus they made the SSD upgradable
I didn't expect to say this, having personal experience with previous generations of the Surface Pro, but kudos to Microsoft's hardware team for these designs. Huge leaps forward in terms of repairability, even though there's still room for improvement.
If only their OS wasn't becoming more of a spyware and losing useful settings and features with each update...
Thank you for showing us and for your work! :) Great!
I've been looking forward to this teardown since the surface announcement. Many thanks.
Finally, an easily repairable tablet! Not gluing down the battery is a huge win here.
Thank you for your work ifixit!
Though he didn't have to yank those shields like that!
I would love to see the next refresh have upgradable RAM with LPCAMM2.
So you are confirming the flux capacitor?
Great teardown! Clear explanations of everything. Thank you!
Microsoft has really improved their repairability and I hope this puts pressure on other Windows vendors to follow. Apple does what it wants and likely won't take serious steps unless staying closed severely impacts its financials.
Great news! It’s going the right way
As much as I despise M$ and their spyware, finally upping their repairability and handing out manuals is nice to see. Good job.
Wow, they are surprisingly servicable devices. I didn't expect this for an outcome.
How is this easier then a Dell Lattitude or HP Elitebook etc?
If anyone could help me answer a question, I was wondering if the ssd card can be removed and slotted into another surface pro 11 and be able to function as normal. In the event the original hardware has failed.
Color me impressed. Good work MS 🎉
Are you guys going to do the new Lenovo and other SnapDragon laptops? I'm wondering if any of them have upgradable ssd and ram
I'm really interested device becoz of the repairability. Hopefully the parts will be easu and available in the future
Neat that they put QR codes to their service manual pages, but Dell and Lenovo have had service manuals for their professional laptops for ages now (maybe not so much for consumer-oriented models....).
Do you know if remove battery in asus proart pz13 is same way or just like x12 detachable?
I would have loved to see some mention of the surface laptop screen replacement. Aside from the battery, that is the most common repair that most people will need. I suspect that it isn't very pleasant if it wasn't even mentioned by a Microsoft partner.
you would just need to unscrew the hinge and put on a new display I would assume
@@user-91291 Odd to give the repair an 8 then if the only display replacement option is a Macbook style full top assembly.
What type of SSD does the Surface Laptop 7 use? I know you said M2, but I can't find the exact one online.
i read on reedit something like the M.2 2230 NVME SSD ...i dont know for sure
m2 nvme. 2230 (30mm size, the shortest one)
Gracias por sus videos. Ustedes dictan cursos de reparacion de apple? en su pagina web no he visto nada de cursos.
The manuals were released on day 1, but I had some more issues in upgrding the SSD on my laptop since the recovery image is not yet available.
Until is it, the only option is likely to be to image your original SSD with something like Clonezilla and write that image to another SSD. And you may have to use another computer to do that because of a lack of drive cloning software that will run on Arm.
I would still prefer they engineer some sort of solution for the Surface Pro that does not require you to get busy trying to pry the screen up with guitar picks. It feels like it would be perilously easy to shatter the screen while doing that, if you're not careful.
If you watch microsofts own teardown they made a display removal jig that allows display separation with no heat or manual prying required
If you move passed your naivety, you will learn how not complicated it is to avoid being clumsy
@@1rstTry but why
@@michaelthomashamilton why is it easy to not be “perilously” clumsy so as to not shatter screens when performing simple repairs? Have to just not be a klutz I guess
@@1rstTry I don't understand
Incroyablement utile ! Très bonne vidéo...
Is the SSD replaceable in the Surface Laptop 7 15", you show it being taken out of its sock and obviously it is a 2230 form factor. Reason for asking is that the difference between a 512Gb and 256Gb model is 300 CAD which I can easily match. Unless there is a special sector on the drive and is not easily replaceable.....
Huge question! What type of keyboard does the surface laptop use? Is it actually reliable or will it fail once dust start building up under the keyboard keys like apple's butterfly keys did?
I've looked online about this and no answer 🥲
The laptop looks like it could accomodate a 2nd SSD. All that's needed is the connector and a screw to hold it! A bit bummer it's not populated. Wonder if other components for it are missing or one could just fit the missing connector and make something to hold the 2nd SSD...
where is the air intake vent located?
3:43 SK Hynix? That looks like a Micron logo. What am i missing?
the rubber feets were glued with glue or have joints
Excellent teardown. I am pleasantly surprised at how repairable the Surface Laptop is, especially. Those ARM PC motherboards are also quite small compared to the one on my Zen 2 13" laptop from 2020.
Normally the RAM is stacked onto the Qualcomm SoC die itself, but I assume it is separate here to make it easier to make different RAM SKUs for the products.
What do you do with these electronics?
awesome to see Microsoft doing this, what a upgrade!!!!
Friendly reminder that detailed repair manuals and screws should (and used to be) the standard and the bare minimum.
This is interesting, I am glad to see Microsoft doing this with their laptops. I hope this is a continued trend, and that we see other manufacturers adopt the same consumer friendliness
Good brother 😊
Awesome & Thanks :)
Is SP 11 able to run VPN?
I don't see why it wouldn't.
8 out of 10 for what exactly. That they tell you which screw to use? Soldered cpu and ram and the only replaceable stuff is the bettery. So what is the big deal?
3:46, looks like Micron DRAM to me while you say it's SK hynix DRAM
This redeemed their storage pricing scheme from Apple-esque to acceptable
I wonder if the next ones are gonna get CAMM2 to avoid soldered RAM...
Depends if they can fit into the thin designs coming along.
Gotta apploud Microsoft here. It should be like this with every company...
starting the video with apple the "I" on the beginning of your channel name resample it well
At midnight, @ Best Buy website i ordered MBP 14 that was on sale for 1500. If Im later yold order dod not through, i might be tempted with Surface laptop 7 on sale. Major selling point is consumer repairability. Apple is certainly not about that.
Be aware the surface laptop 7 voids warranty if upgrading SSD. Unlike previous models
What Microsoft uses to run x86 applications on ARM is not an *emulation* layer but a *translation* layer which basically converts the system calls into language that ARM can understand instead of having an ARM CPU pretending to be x86
@@billkormas3460 indeed
ok
Sadly there still is a fan. My 5year old M1Air is fanless: saving power, cost, volume, noise and maintenance.
Nice job Microsoft! I like the changes. Now I am just waiting for upgradeable ram and CPUs in devices like these and I am sold. In the mean time I will hang onto my five year old tablet and keep using my regular nice and upgradeable laptop. (Too bad I can't upgrade the cpu or gpu. Whatever, change is slow.)
Well done M$, thx iFixit👍
Super cool indeed
8/10 for surface pro is not fair given the fact that the battery connector is hidden underneath the heat dissipation system
Snapdragon X Elite 🚀 🚀
relaxing music! name of the song pls?
Surface is way better than others
Kudos! 🎉🎉 Microsoft
They even write which screwdriver you need? Just reminded me of a certain company developing new screws just to screw us over! (good one!)
Amazing
"Back when your grandpa still had hair!"... where does that leave you?
Snapdragon X ❤❤❤
Big props to Microsoft for the laptop, but I think the 8 on the tablet is too generous with the screen the still glued down. "Everyone does it" is not a good excuse and it never will be.
I'm not a computer engineer, but I'm pretty sure having your heat pipes run directly over the battery isn't a good idea. Especially on something as powerful as a surface pro 11. Then again it's not that powerful to begin with.
The surface tablets have had that for years and it seems they haven’t caused any issues
I may be wrong but from the video it looked like the battery is split into two cells & the heat pipe runs between them with some room to spare on both sides so I don't think its heat affects the battery much
@@Sithhy that is correct, but still. It seems like a bad idea.
@@Sithhyit’ll still spread heat right into the battery cells though! i’ve never seen design with a hot heat pipe jammed in between batteries
The heatpipe doesnt run over the battery, but the battery management circuitry, which assist with its cooling.
I believe those DRAM chips are Micron DRAM...
"Apple don't even announce when they intend to release manuals for a device."
Actually, with Apple, you know from Day 1 exactly when they'll release the service manuals: NEVER.
(Or even if they do release them, the most failure-prone things you'd need to repair aren't repairable.)
what about the screen assembly on the Laptop 7? Screens can be repaired when they have fault on their motherboards and they are very hard to work with because they are fragile and difficult to separate from the shell..
You are getting close msft. Man if you please make a tablet i can open w/o glue, i would be really happy. it would be fun just to try an option.
Kudos to Microsoft.
0:00 - iMac crying in Snapdragon...
Would love to watch your video. But your loud background music prevents me.
To remove the pro 11 battery is Bad
AI is a bug, not a feature. Also, its not real AI, its just a marketing term.
Good on microsoft
8 score on a device that requires you to unglue a paper thin display to access the battery? What the actual f*?
Microsoft is clearly getting ahead of any Right to repair regulations coming rom the EU and the US. Either way, that's so awesome. You can swap out the battery in 4-5 years and keep using your laptop like it's new. Not to mention less than $100 gets you a 1TB SSD on Amazon and you can get rid of the 256GB, making the Surface Laptop $1,300 for 16GB/1TB. I f*cking wish my MacBook Pro could do that. :D
Imagine Linus Torvalds trying to sell Linux with a custom PC he makes. I think Microsoft should support existing ARM hardware, like those guys who made it run on a Lumia Phone, or that other attempt for Raspberry. Both sucked because no drivers. That's where Microsoft should help.
This being Qualcomm devices, no level of repairability will save them from the inevitable end of software support.
One thing is for sure, that Surface devices are now better than ASUS.
All cool and so but I still won't buy an ARM based laptop until it has socketed RAM and storage. Punkt Ende Aus!
These do have socketed storage. RAM will never be in conventional sockets because it's LPDDR5x, which can't be put in SODIMM sockets (the super-low voltage means that the noise margins are too low for that), but Microsoft could have used the new LPCAMM2 form factor.
hmm, i think we have to thank Framework for showing others how it can be done - surface laptop feels very similar
the biggest test will be parts availability
If you say so. Other manufacturers were headed in that general direction anyway.
I'm not buying any hardware with fans. In modern days tech alows to produce powerfull hardware without any moving parts.
5:22 Sounds like the perfect insult to a Klingon
still no schematic I see.