We Realised Our Baby Was Born Blind

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  • Опубликовано: 26 ноя 2024

Комментарии • 402

  • @angkimmoy6735
    @angkimmoy6735 3 года назад +619

    After watching this, I felt emotionally touched by the young and optimistic parent. I could really empathy their story as it brings me back my memories, 27 years ago, because I also have a son who was diagnosed with Leber’s congenital amaurosis. Today, my son works as a software engineer, after facing many obstacles - he struggles in the society especially in education, but his effort and determination of hard work bring him to where he is today. I am so proud of him! Just believe in youself and there is light at the end of the tunnel!

    • @angkimmoy6735
      @angkimmoy6735 3 года назад +20

      Information Technology has really help my son alot

    • @dollytan1729
      @dollytan1729 3 года назад +15

      Wow!27 years ago wd hv been even harder,👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻thank u for sharing your story.

    • @jamesshopee
      @jamesshopee 3 года назад +9

      Please help to share your experience with this pair of young parents 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

    • @cjkoh8227
      @cjkoh8227 3 года назад +7

      Thank you for sharing with us nothing is impossible

    • @gad7602
      @gad7602 3 года назад +4

      ❤🌼

  • @MrLookitspam
    @MrLookitspam Год назад +13

    He’s standing in the light of parents who love him. I don’t see darkness for him.

  • @jujupianolover
    @jujupianolover 3 года назад +574

    I hope Elliot’s parents read this comment. I understand how hard it can be to raise a visually impaired child. It must also be realy heartbreaking to learn about his condition at first. Want to encourage you that blind people can have equally, if not, more fulfilling lives than others. I went to a music college and one of my professors who is blind is able to teach classes, do research, is married and has a beautiful family and daughter. A blind friend of mine is a lovely person and is getting married. The journey is going to be hard, but Elliot’s potential and future is so bright! Keep doing what you’re doing! Jia you!

    • @swarankaur125
      @swarankaur125 Год назад +2

      My child is also blind but he is paralyzed and cannot stand he is 5years old now😢

    • @itsrealdhea3988
      @itsrealdhea3988 Год назад +2

      ​@@swarankaur125you strong enough to handle this situation

  • @jc10x
    @jc10x 3 года назад +569

    I hope that future technology will allow him to gain vision again. Sending lots of love to parents ~

    • @heisyahweh7148
      @heisyahweh7148 3 года назад +21

      It would be scary for him to have vision because he doesn't know what it is like to have one. You can't miss something you never knew.

    • @estelle8757
      @estelle8757 3 года назад +16

      @@heisyahweh7148 yea but u can adapt n change. It’s like u saying if I was poor I won’t want to be rich becos I won’t miss something I nvr had...I mean I may be wrong but that’s how ur msg came across as, to me

    • @aj-sz8mu
      @aj-sz8mu 3 года назад +28

      @@heisyahweh7148 tons of kids who've never heard before receive hearing aids and cry at what they hear and live normal lives. scary. sure. but it would be more cruel to deprive him of that opportunity to see.

    • @sigma_z
      @sigma_z 3 года назад +9

      @@heisyahweh7148 I agree with everyone else here. If technology can bring some sort of sight back to this little angel, the opportunity should be given to him. In fact I saw something recently where they implanted something near the retina and people could start seeing in very low resolution grey scale vision? Not perfect, but definitely a start. There's still hope that technology can help us all lead better and more complete lives.

    • @moonstars6279
      @moonstars6279 3 года назад +3

      May GOD provides his vision and show him light. Stay positively God loves children and I believe Jesus surely heal your child.

  • @christwg07
    @christwg07 3 года назад +214

    Hope CNA will cover more families and individuals with special needs, make a difference in other’s lives etc

    • @yaopaul9394
      @yaopaul9394 3 года назад +1

      Your comment touched my heart.

  • @eddiec679
    @eddiec679 3 года назад +140

    A very touched moment, when the baby acknowledged his parents was cheering for him, and he was happy he could navigate to ground successfully..... Praying for the cute baby and his family.... God bless :)

  • @h.i3677
    @h.i3677 3 года назад +93

    I know you guys are struggling but as a deaf person i assure you he will do well like all people. I am 23 and will graduate in medical microbiology this July. Blindness, deafness or any other ability are not disabilities these are special abilities.

  • @kiyo1412
    @kiyo1412 3 года назад +181

    You guys are amazing parents. Think that he is a child with a different ability. Your love and strength will develop him.

    • @stephenchia264
      @stephenchia264 3 года назад +3

      Be brave and accept him às he issues
      God bless him

  • @heisyahweh7148
    @heisyahweh7148 3 года назад +302

    The crazy part is that as he grows up, being blind will be normal to him that he wouldn't be able to imagine his life with vision. Blindness is all he has known since birth and that's normal to him. This is to say that everyone's "normal" is different and we should respect that! Wishing him and his lovely parents all the best!

    • @retrovox
      @retrovox 3 года назад +7

      Yes, the child is born blind and he does not have any concept of colour, light, shapes and forms. He does not know what he is missing out. So, what are the parents grieving on? They are grieving on their own loss. Expectation not met and hence, grief and sorrow set in.

    • @abcd-hw8io
      @abcd-hw8io 2 года назад

      When he reaches a certain age, he would talk to his classmates and he would somewhat imagine what being a sighted person would be like.

    • @kc_h7h
      @kc_h7h 2 года назад +7

      @@retrovox actually blind people arnt really that interested in forms and objects. Because they can somewhat understand how that works. But most blind people are really amazed at depth and distance. They find it odd that the average person can see objects 100 meters away. And they know how far and how close it is. Thats something they find impossible to understand

    • @Whocares158
      @Whocares158 9 месяцев назад

      This isn't normal.
      I'm sick and tired of everyone justifying the brutality and violence of Nature as "Normal"

  • @kaylamoody9973
    @kaylamoody9973 3 года назад +103

    I have an family friend who is visually impaired lives independently, he is in his 60's. He goes skiing with a guide and a beeper for him to guide him. With your love and dedication to him, and the technology like braille key boards for computers. He can do anything , but just in a different way.

  • @beezlebub9
    @beezlebub9 3 года назад +192

    This little guy has amazing parents. Dancing seems to be an instinctive response to music.

  • @chrisloveall971
    @chrisloveall971 3 года назад +49

    He is blessed to have these two for parents. They're doing a wonderful job!!!! He will grow up to do AMAZING things! 👏

  • @emilyperkins9947
    @emilyperkins9947 3 года назад +30

    His father said the best thing: your expectations shouldn't be reduced! He'll just reach his targets in a different way! Don't let something that others may view as an impairment keep you from reaching high!

  • @gainiq2002
    @gainiq2002 3 года назад +44

    Don’t worry too much, everything will turn out fine. Take things one day at a time. As a parent with a special needs child myself, I have also asked myself a million times what will happen to my child when I’m not around for him anymore. I have learned to trust in God and do whatever we can for him now. You have an amazing child who will bring you on an amazing journey as parents. God blessed.

  • @gedecandra7722
    @gedecandra7722 3 года назад +24

    This kind of Documentary make you feel grateful of what you have and a reason to try to make the world a better place.

  • @Tammissa
    @Tammissa 3 года назад +46

    He’s a beautiful boy! What an 👼 angel. Mom and dad are doing a great job!

  • @Wanyann
    @Wanyann 2 года назад +12

    This is the first time I cried. It’s so painful to see a blind baby. Elliot’s parents are spiritually strong and caring. I wish this baby be happy and always healthy in his life.

  • @hendrix5556
    @hendrix5556 3 года назад +29

    I wish you all the strength you need and lots and lots of joy with you wonderful boy. All the best from Thailand

  • @crsytaltan
    @crsytaltan 3 года назад +65

    have been following your story since the reddit post, really inspiring couple and elliot will grow up just fine with such great parents!!

    • @MsEverAfterings
      @MsEverAfterings 3 года назад

      Aww, can I have the link to the post?

    • @crsytaltan
      @crsytaltan 3 года назад +3

      @@MsEverAfterings www.reddit.com/r/singapore/comments/kaje6j/part_3_baby_born_blind_need_help/ here you go!

  • @jochen4731
    @jochen4731 3 года назад +8

    There's going to be a reason for him to look up one day. You guys are truly amazing. Do not be discouraged. God bless you and keep watch over Elliot every step of the way.

  • @Pen_Mary
    @Pen_Mary 3 года назад +16

    With both of ur supports, the boy will grow up stronger. From the vdo, he is vey young, but very understandable.Perhaps, visual impaired teach him to greatly adapt to it and become even more independent.

  • @ThaiIsland
    @ThaiIsland 3 года назад +18

    Keep up with the good work parents. He’ll turnout to be a fine young man one day. 🙏🏼❤️

  • @rextan2049
    @rextan2049 3 года назад +8

    I am a single father of 2. I can see that it’s not easy for the 2 of you, especially your kid. Please don’t give up. God will bless you all.

  • @Jun-si4db
    @Jun-si4db 3 года назад +27

    amazing parents!!! keep going eliot's mommy and daddy

  • @apriltoo
    @apriltoo 3 года назад +5

    Thank you for loving him sincerely...he's so lucky to have you guys as his parent.
    He's a special kid, special kid is for special parents. So i bet you two are special...believe in that!
    You two are special, so does Elliot...❤️❤️❤️
    Stay strong...be happy...be patient

  • @kerlynlim2155
    @kerlynlim2155 3 года назад +5

    I have a special needs girl too. Can fully understand where u come from, we have to be stronger than any other parents in order to bring joy to our kids. We have these fear that if one day we pass on and how they can survive independently. Whatever going to be just try our best in raising them in a healthy and happy environment. All the best to you guys and your cute baby boy

  • @ivykaneshiro7554
    @ivykaneshiro7554 2 года назад +1

    Elliot is gifted to you both…your love,patience,understanding and compassion is so precious…your tenderness and your sincere voice makes life so easy on him…elliot’s aim In becoming a blessing child is a reward to you both..his strong personality will make life worth living..good parents

  • @kristabeltang1089
    @kristabeltang1089 3 года назад +3

    Thanks CNA for this video. To Elliot's parents, I have 3 kids and one of them is Autism and the other one is 1 year old now. It is also not easy but i believe yours will be more challenging. Your story encourage me to do more for Kristabel to build up her confidence level. Keep up the good works. Miracle will happen.

  • @ZacMusiconline
    @ZacMusiconline 3 года назад +22

    amazing parents! I'm sure Elliot will grow up and achieve great things. keep up the good work!

  • @cottonhairedhoe5243
    @cottonhairedhoe5243 2 года назад +2

    My son will be 3 next month and he was born blind as well and this was the first time I’ve seen anyone shed any light on the situation thank you for this.

    • @ireneamancio3265
      @ireneamancio3265 2 года назад

      Im afraid my daughter has vision problem too... she's 4mos now but she cant track things. Not even looking at me....we were scheduled for a visit to a pedia optha by the end of this month.

    • @user-vh6te
      @user-vh6te 2 года назад

      ​@@ireneamancio3265
      I hope she'll do well

  • @shanswan-eq-et3452
    @shanswan-eq-et3452 3 года назад +8

    A very touching and inspiring story!
    Weishi and Eric are such loving, resilient, amazing and brave parents! ❤️
    Elliot is a lovely and cute baby boy! can tell that he is responding well to his parents motivation. Keep going!
    Lots of love to you, Elliot, Weishi and Eric! Keep the faith and stay strong!❤️😍

  • @frozenicebladez7508
    @frozenicebladez7508 3 года назад +7

    That kid has amazing parent! Definitely gonna succeed in life!

  • @elliecarter92
    @elliecarter92 3 года назад +3

    What a strong mother he has. So inspiring. ❤︎

  • @candeliasee6064
    @candeliasee6064 3 года назад +10

    All respect to parents who love their kids (leading them to live according to their abilities)

  • @jch0111
    @jch0111 3 года назад +13

    This was inspiring, and my heart goes all out for the Koh’s.

  • @rosegarza4887
    @rosegarza4887 3 года назад +10

    The parents are doing amazing job hang in there.💕💕

  • @glowish1993
    @glowish1993 3 года назад +8

    Respect to the parents!!! Thanks for sharing

  • @Maledicta80
    @Maledicta80 3 года назад +8

    Great parents! Keep up your spirit! Elliot is lucky to have u both as his parents!

  • @Danielle_Visuals
    @Danielle_Visuals 5 месяцев назад +1

    I was also visually impaired from 4 months old, and now 17 years later I'm still fighting through tough times 😭😭 I feel this baby😭 I wish the best ❤️

  • @ellethu22
    @ellethu22 2 года назад

    What a cutie he is! His smile is so contagious. He’s lucky to have supportive and loving parents to care, teach, and provide him resources so that he can grow an able and independent person. Sending you all the love and best wishes!

  • @ashahsiegel2513
    @ashahsiegel2513 3 года назад +3

    Elliot is a wonderful boy! I love him already! And his parents are such wonderful parents! This family is full of love

  • @Kgidiful
    @Kgidiful 2 года назад +1

    Thank you for being such amazing parents.

  • @kizziekizzie4
    @kizziekizzie4 3 года назад +1

    Thank u for being strong Elliot's mummy and daddy... pls dont stop persevering... u guys r in my prayers....

  • @jeromestavrosyeo
    @jeromestavrosyeo 2 года назад +1

    Heartbreaking. Im speechless. I feel for the parents and baby Elliot. Hard to watch....sigh...baby Elliot and parents - much blessings to you both and may your life be filled with joy and happiness from Baby Elliot. God bless

  • @omecool20
    @omecool20 3 года назад +7

    Love the spirit of the parents. Sending love from MY.

  • @euneunn
    @euneunn 3 года назад +4

    ❤️❤️❤️ You guys have come so far~ I still remember the dilemma you had whether to put E in the public light to raise awareness for VI babies. Ultimately to aim for a society and environment that is assistive, receptive and inclusive. So proud of you both 😢, stick to your innate intuitive love yall have for E, it is what that will take him to places... Even highly exceeding your expectations~ 🤗🤗🤗

  • @joelpayne1193
    @joelpayne1193 Год назад

    This story is heartwarming and I believe this kid will have bright future because parents support and love their kid. Good luck and hope your journey goes well. 😊

  • @edkg8888
    @edkg8888 3 года назад +1

    What a beautiful boy, I am so happy he has such a supportive family. He will definitely grow up to be someone amazing.

  • @ordinaryobserver897
    @ordinaryobserver897 3 года назад +2

    For a period I was helping a blind adult and learnt that he is very independent in moving around in sg. He was also blind since young. I believe your son has no problem to achieve that and even more since both of you could try to map out the possible routes he could take. Very encouraged by both of you. Will pray for your family. God bless.

  • @antonissa8345
    @antonissa8345 2 года назад +5

    He may not be able to see in the traditional way but his blindness allows him to see the world in a far more unique way

  • @marlenesabiooliva7667
    @marlenesabiooliva7667 3 года назад +1

    I am so touched to the core while viewing this video. My husband and I are involve in Ephpheta Foundation for the Blind, Inc. Our mission right now is the free cataract operation in cooperation with our donors and loyal benefactors. Praise God the foundation was able to survive for more than 40 yrs. It was nevet easy but with God's grace we are able to continue with our mission. Father Jess Fernandez, SJ our founder is turning 90 years old on June 28, 2021. God bless to both of you for this video.

  • @kellykhong3590
    @kellykhong3590 3 года назад +3

    I wish nothing but the best for this family.

  • @MalcolmWong
    @MalcolmWong 3 года назад +2

    Sending love to this lovely family, parents be strong, unite and hope your boy Elliot grow up independent in future

  • @silentnight9655
    @silentnight9655 2 года назад +1

    ''Blind baby''. Sad words. You can see the heartbreak on his dad's face. Eliot is lovely.

  • @sigma_z
    @sigma_z 3 года назад +2

    You are such a wonderful family. Thank you for taking such good care of this little angel. You're amazing parents and your love for your son is so obvious it shines so bright. 🤗

  • @tinoodlesyeptho2924
    @tinoodlesyeptho2924 3 года назад +2

    Such amazing parents. Lots of love to them. The boy is the cutest, also wish him the best for the journey that is life.

  • @syedmuhdariff3872
    @syedmuhdariff3872 Год назад

    you are so strong bro.when i saw this video its make me cry..i hope the boy will always healthy and become good person on his future

  • @robbrent
    @robbrent 3 года назад +2

    Such heartwarming friends and parents, much love and support for them all from 🇿🇦

  • @nancytan6758
    @nancytan6758 3 года назад +2

    Amazing parents. God Bless this family.❤️

  • @brillyntoh7237
    @brillyntoh7237 3 года назад +4

    Very inspiring couple and parents. I could never do this. Elliot is lucky to meet you all. Sending some love to this beautiful family ❤️❤️

  • @lilatea8089
    @lilatea8089 3 года назад +1

    I’m glad that CNA and the parents are willing to be part of this video… so that other parents who are in the same boat won’t feel like they are alone when dealing with similar issues.

  • @bubulala5
    @bubulala5 3 года назад +7

    I pray for strength for the parents

  • @artistsyeun7677
    @artistsyeun7677 3 года назад +1

    This boy is going to be very successful in future, trust me.. no worries. God bless and stay strong.

  • @franciswoon2130
    @franciswoon2130 3 года назад +1

    This baby is very lucky to have such good parents .god bless.

  • @clara.t68
    @clara.t68 3 года назад +1

    Amazing noble parents any child would be so blessed to have❤️❤️

  • @vaishnavichennai
    @vaishnavichennai 3 года назад +1

    My heart pains I am crying over so badly much love to the parents, I really feel bad and inspired by them to have good amount of patience with kids.

  • @mistygreen5335
    @mistygreen5335 2 года назад

    You guys are amazing parents. Elliot is so blessed to call you mom & dad. He is so adorable and looks happy and at ease because of you. You guys give me so much inspiration. I have my little one and I also feel an endless love for her like I can do everything for her no matter how tired I am. But your love is another level and I aspire to be a loving, patient, optimistic parent like you. May God bless your lives immensely.

  • @staricee8700
    @staricee8700 Год назад +1

    Love how he flaps his arms like wings it's super cute

  • @tandysaysyoucandoanything6758
    @tandysaysyoucandoanything6758 3 года назад +4

    Elliot feels the parents love and that is what will help him be successful in life 😍😍😍❤️😍❤️😍❤️😍❤️😍❤️😍❤️❤️❤️❤️

  • @yongkiatlee3450
    @yongkiatlee3450 3 года назад +1

    加油 both parents!! He will grow up to be a great man!

  • @joycepotato
    @joycepotato 3 года назад +2

    So much love in one video. Wishing all the happiness and joy you guys deserved. He will grow up well!! 💪

  • @gottabesometime6632
    @gottabesometime6632 2 года назад

    You are such incredible parents, and your little man is beyond awesome..DON'T PLEASE DON'T PUT YOUR EXSPECTATIONS ON HIM.
    He's impaired but so intelligent as he has heightened senses that you both, arent gifted with, as parents this will become so apparent.
    Your son is SPECIAL, LOVE HIM FOR EXACTLY what and who he is as I know you will.
    Ask or pray for nothing more, as your BOY is your gift!

  • @kholynette
    @kholynette 3 года назад +4

    Such admirable parents to raise their child

  • @UnlockingADHD
    @UnlockingADHD 3 года назад +1

    All the best to Elliott. Very inspired and touched by your love, patience and strength

  • @ritumishra5216
    @ritumishra5216 2 года назад

    Lots of love and prayers to baby..and hats off to parents. It's a huge learning i have had today generally when I lose my calm with the child

  • @nschweiz4248
    @nschweiz4248 3 года назад

    Dear Koh family,
    You are doing a wonderful job with Elliott. Please do not give up on him. Elliot needs both his parents to nurture and guide him. If all else fails in Singapore, here is Switzerland visually impaired youngsters get around by public transportation easily and they lead very independent lives. Either way, Elliot is a lucky and bright boy!
    Love from Switzerland

  • @bbatwfan
    @bbatwfan 3 года назад +2

    Extremely inspiring. All the best!

  • @samreen3881
    @samreen3881 2 года назад

    Sending lots of love and prayer for Elliot and his family! The parents are doing an excellent job and I’m 100% sure that he will go on to become an extremely successful individual♥️♥️♥️♥️

  • @jaclee3594
    @jaclee3594 3 года назад

    Elliot is such a beautiful child. So adorable. God bless this family and Elliot!

  • @LV-fv8ss
    @LV-fv8ss 2 года назад

    I really admire two of you. Lovely boy and good luck to him and your family.

  • @eugenejustin5314
    @eugenejustin5314 3 года назад +4

    God Bless this family.
    Hope someday, technology can bring this child vision.

  • @hahadarrie
    @hahadarrie 2 года назад

    He is absolutely adoreable. I wish him all the best and nay he lead a fullfilled life. I'm moved to tears over how fantastically theu are parenting Baby Elliot.

  • @Vvvvvvv3
    @Vvvvvvv3 3 года назад +2

    They are doing such a wonderful job raising their child!

  • @AmyLeeAngelLove
    @AmyLeeAngelLove 2 года назад +1

    To all parents who have children with disabilities, I hope there is a cure for each one of your children.

  • @dianaahakim2001
    @dianaahakim2001 3 года назад +10

    Blindness, or any impairment really, physical or mental, shouldn’t define a person. They are just like you and me and they shouldn’t be treated differently just because they’re a bit special in a way.

  • @Life-isdifferent2021
    @Life-isdifferent2021 3 года назад

    Blessed family ♥️ and what's more beautiful is they have a beautiful son who inspite of being visually impaired turn their pain into Joy and hope 🥰 may God bless you all forver....best parents in the world 👍👏👏🙏🙏

  • @Tigrinyatalesandtalks
    @Tigrinyatalesandtalks 2 года назад

    Wishing him and his parents More blessings and sucess.

  • @mahbrum
    @mahbrum 3 года назад +5

    This is a really inspiring video. The parents are such wonderful, beautiful people as is their son.

  • @sebastianfigueiredo8560
    @sebastianfigueiredo8560 3 года назад +23

    With the love of parents and their support, I hope that through God' s grace that their child will see again.🙏

    • @sebastianfigueiredo8560
      @sebastianfigueiredo8560 3 года назад +1

      I wish that this issue can be addressed by community as a whole, so this young wonderful gift of life can see again.🙏

    • @djazM
      @djazM 3 года назад

      @ Sebastian Figueiredo AMEN🙌

    • @xxs0ulxx1
      @xxs0ulxx1 3 года назад +1

      and if god doesn't? why did your god not give him sight in the first place?

    • @sebastianfigueiredo8560
      @sebastianfigueiredo8560 3 года назад +1

      @@xxs0ulxx1 . Are u a atheist to give me such a ridiculous comment.

    • @xxs0ulxx1
      @xxs0ulxx1 3 года назад +1

      @@sebastianfigueiredo8560 how is it ridiculous. I think you are the ridiculous one giving false hopes

  • @jasminetan0506
    @jasminetan0506 2 года назад

    Amazing parents . Wishing for a miracle so Elliot can see his parents !

  • @mr.mediocregamer9653
    @mr.mediocregamer9653 2 года назад +7

    He's an adorable little man. I'm sure with the love of his parents there to encourage him that he'll go on to make them prouder than they already are.

  • @Derlei
    @Derlei 3 года назад +16

    Amazing parents and beautiful baby.

  • @amychua8669
    @amychua8669 2 года назад +2

    Dear Elliot, I pray you will grow up and your eyes will heal 100% well once again. May God bless you, dear Elliot. Fear not, for God answers good prayers requests with good also. Take care, love lots.- from Auntie Amy Chua.👓

  • @ivantoh9001
    @ivantoh9001 3 года назад +8

    He will be independent just like millions of visually impaired people in the world.

  • @PoPoinJapan
    @PoPoinJapan 3 года назад +4

    This world renowned pianist, Nobuyuki Tsujii, 32, has the same condition as baby Elliot. I’m a big fan of his, and going to his concert is such a wonderful and encouraging experience. He is living by himself now and go around the world to perform. His mother discovered his talent to memories notes at a very young age.

  • @stephen_lee10
    @stephen_lee10 3 года назад

    A parents love is a special type of power that can change the world and yourself. I feel everything will be okay. Love will lead the way.

  • @TheYvettevideo
    @TheYvettevideo 3 года назад +2

    All my prayers and respects to the amazing parents of special needs children! Jiayou! All the children are angels! ❤️❤️❤️

  • @samanthagxy1943
    @samanthagxy1943 3 года назад +1

    Great parents! My best wishes and all the best to the family.

  • @starswlx
    @starswlx 3 года назад +3

    Pls stay strong:) miracle may happen🙏🏻

  • @estherchong6925
    @estherchong6925 3 года назад +1

    Jiayou... You have been brave parents. Heard from my client who son is visually impaired that they trained him to go sch independently at 13yrs just like any other kids.