Why Sonic Fans STILL Want Mephiles Back - Sonic the Hedgehog Villain Discussion

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  • Опубликовано: 15 янв 2019
  • #sonic06 #mephiles #sonic
    13 years later and Sonic fans still want to see this embodiment of darkness return for at least one more game. What makes him such a fan favourite, and what lesson isn't being learned by Sega?
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    ~Music~
    Mephiles' Temptation from Sonic 06
    The Resurrection of Mephiles from Sonic 06
    Showdown with Mephiles from Sonic 06
    Mephiles' Whisper from Sonic 06
    Mephiles Boss 1 from Sonic 06
    Death Egg Robot Phase 2 from Sonic Forces
    Flame Core (The Cavern) from Sonic 06
    Mephiles Boss 2 from Sonic 06
    Infinite Battle First Bout from Sonic Forces
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  • @lorddanny2988
    @lorddanny2988  5 лет назад +2785

    In the beginning of this video, I say "Mephiles the Dark", not "Mephiles the Dog". If I did say "dog", my British accent would make it sound very different to the word "dark".

    • @Poly_Hes_Gone
      @Poly_Hes_Gone 5 лет назад +44

      oof

    • @hilly410
      @hilly410 5 лет назад +54

      Now that I heard it again, I do hear dark instead of dog, but lemme get back to this video

    • @CedroEscarlate
      @CedroEscarlate 5 лет назад +41

      Dogness

    • @cherriepp3655
      @cherriepp3655 5 лет назад +9

      I can understand

    • @boldblues
      @boldblues 5 лет назад +38

      Guess the dark has more bite than bark.

  • @pantsdraws
    @pantsdraws 5 лет назад +2380

    I think his name is...Memphis Tennessee

    • @kvr0n248
      @kvr0n248 5 лет назад +26

      I Like Pizza I love you

    • @neomoons296
      @neomoons296 5 лет назад +19

      nice reference

    • @katelynthewhitewerewolf6376
      @katelynthewhitewerewolf6376 5 лет назад +20

      @@neomoons296
      I want Mephiles to come back too he's a better villain than Eggman Dark Gaia and King Arthur the Black Knight should also return too.
      Seriously Sega stop doing this to better villains.

    • @TLG_Luke
      @TLG_Luke 5 лет назад +93

      Welcome to Tilted Towers...

    • @thebowz998
      @thebowz998 5 лет назад +42

      And he is part lizard.

  • @jackiexkh
    @jackiexkh 5 лет назад +2347

    Mephiles: Creepy being of pure evil.
    Infinite: Teenage edgelord.

  • @thebowz998
    @thebowz998 5 лет назад +3475

    “Well you see, it’s a gamer-pad.
    Not many girls come in here because I get friendzoned so frequently...
    _But that’s okay.”_

    • @sexygunslinger7809
      @sexygunslinger7809 5 лет назад +82

      Oh fuck

    • @rumeysaongul4765
      @rumeysaongul4765 5 лет назад +82

      The bowz
      The priceless referrence. XD

    • @masquerabe6692
      @masquerabe6692 5 лет назад +245

      I’d like to be in the friend zone
      I’d like friends...

    • @Mizzriah
      @Mizzriah 5 лет назад +198

      The Pun-Isher. It’s not as pleasant as you’d think...

    • @masquerabe6692
      @masquerabe6692 5 лет назад +191

      Just watching 5901
      They don’t treat you like a friend, they treat you like an I T E M

  • @SpitshineSneakers
    @SpitshineSneakers 5 лет назад +1460

    There's a simple reason people want Mephiles the Dog...
    It's because he's an *Alpha Gamer*.

    • @lorddanny2988
      @lorddanny2988  5 лет назад +325

      Ain't that the reason why he keeps getting friendzoned so frequently?

    • @alpha_gem
      @alpha_gem 5 лет назад +213

      I’d like to be in the friend zone, I’d like friends

    • @lorddanny2988
      @lorddanny2988  5 лет назад +256

      @@alpha_gem It's not as pleasant as you'd think. They don't treat you like a friend, they treat you like an *i t e m*

    • @thebowz998
      @thebowz998 5 лет назад +164

      “Sometimes I wish I could be more than just an accessory to these women, but unfortunately as a gamer, I don’t get respect.”

    • @alpha_gem
      @alpha_gem 5 лет назад +136

      Well... I’m not a gamer so maybe they’ll respect me

  • @nicegoatdoctor8224
    @nicegoatdoctor8224 5 лет назад +1699

    The Virgin Infinite vs the Chad Mephiles.

    • @austinreed7343
      @austinreed7343 4 года назад +36

      Good Boy
      Vs. The Wizard Zavok Vs. The Lad Robotnik.

    • @ainsleyharriot6060
      @ainsleyharriot6060 4 года назад +57

      Girls never treated him as a person

    • @jamiegioca9448
      @jamiegioca9448 4 года назад +26

      Infinite Walk vs. Mephiles Stride

    • @xmascritter2383
      @xmascritter2383 3 года назад +58

      Thats the difference between them. Mephiles is an alpha gamer

    • @aggromango534
      @aggromango534 3 года назад +10

      Alright
      Infinite could LITERALLY OVER DO REALITY, bUt bEcAuSe Mephiles iS a aLpHa gAmEr he could win.
      You all are just relying on what you saw. Not what could be behind all of that

  • @epicmaj8r
    @epicmaj8r 4 года назад +706

    Mephiles: *straight up kills Sonic without any hesitation on first encounter*
    Eggman & other villains: no. That's not how you're supposed to play the game

    • @megaman37456
      @megaman37456 2 года назад +83

      The Chad Mephiles: Haha energy blade go brrrrr!
      The Virgin Eggman: It's fine to scare and threaten people, but when you actually hurt someone you've gone too far!

    • @fungusjoe5005
      @fungusjoe5005 2 года назад +78

      @@megaman37456
      The Virgin Memphis: Not many girls come in here because I get friend zoned so frequently.
      The Chad Eggman: I miss my wife, Tails.

    • @spinomania1921
      @spinomania1921 2 года назад +8

      @@fungusjoe5005 Gigachad Shadow: I fucked your wife. Now excuse me, i have more women i need to go bed with

    • @darksonicyt5430
      @darksonicyt5430 2 года назад +2

      @@spinomania1921 Shadow: I peed on your wife robotnik. She's mine now.

    • @Xul-Xata
      @Xul-Xata 2 года назад +2

      @@fungusjoe5005 who the hell is memphis?

  • @jtaimelaon4735
    @jtaimelaon4735 5 лет назад +658

    It’s because he’s an ALPHA gamer.

    • @lorddanny2988
      @lorddanny2988  5 лет назад +144

      Too bad he gets friendzoned so frequently.

    • @jesalt8230
      @jesalt8230 3 года назад +45

      @@lorddanny2988 but that's ok

    • @finnaginary941
      @finnaginary941 3 года назад +17

      Where are the boys droppin?

    • @t.o.d4868
      @t.o.d4868 3 года назад +15

      @@lorddanny2988 Silver isn't a gamer, maybe he won't get friendzoned

    • @justarandombluebird8222
      @justarandombluebird8222 3 года назад +15

      THAT JUST MAKE YOU A BETA COKE

  • @annacollins8999
    @annacollins8999 5 лет назад +1569

    "Cuz I keep getting tilted at the towers"
    Memphis, Tennessee
    2019

    • @lorddanny2988
      @lorddanny2988  5 лет назад +214

      This isn't really tilted... OR a tower...

    • @annacollins8999
      @annacollins8999 5 лет назад +172

      @@lorddanny2988 well, it's my gamer pad.
      Not many women come up here cuz I get friend zoned so often.

    • @user-vs6oe8fl3m
      @user-vs6oe8fl3m 5 лет назад +1

      Nestor Illyanovich, Nestor Illyanovivh, why didn't it work?

    • @rumeysaongul4765
      @rumeysaongul4765 5 лет назад +4

      Aidan Collins
      The referrence

    • @lunasus7924
      @lunasus7924 5 лет назад +19

      everyone is quoting this video.
      I love it.

  • @BovineDesigns
    @BovineDesigns 5 лет назад +1584

    Go on Shadow
    Don't you support gay rights?

    • @thesimpthatsimpsforeverysi6419
      @thesimpthatsimpsforeverysi6419 5 лет назад +51

      SNAPCUBE REFERENCE!

    • @giygas_9577
      @giygas_9577 5 лет назад +111

      Look at this weird flame in front of me, it's REALLY BIG!!!

    • @sweggyq_
      @sweggyq_ 5 лет назад +87

      "Oh , I'm sorry, I confused you for Sonic, I thought we were getting married"

    • @giygas_9577
      @giygas_9577 5 лет назад +49

      @@sweggyq_ COME KISS ME BOI!
      Also you forgot the Me-files at the end of that quote. XD

    • @sweggyq_
      @sweggyq_ 5 лет назад +4

      @@giygas_9577 welp I was close enough 😂

  • @clank7298
    @clank7298 5 лет назад +1898

    Every villain has beaten Sonic to a pulp.
    But Mephiles...
    Killed him.

    • @koolmckool7039
      @koolmckool7039 5 лет назад +252

      All the villains try something convoluted, but Mephiles is like "you guys are doing it wrong".

    • @Deiruto_Uchiha
      @Deiruto_Uchiha 5 лет назад +160

      He killed Sonic with a single strike and a smooth kill

    • @silkworm2595
      @silkworm2595 5 лет назад +26

      He didn't though. Also it was a stab in the back, not a fight

    • @koolmckool7039
      @koolmckool7039 5 лет назад +126

      @@silkworm2595 He did kill Sonic. No one said that they had a fight.

    • @silkworm2595
      @silkworm2595 5 лет назад +10

      @@koolmckool7039 still being alive doesn't cut it. Mephles was boring.

  • @cynderadracona7093
    @cynderadracona7093 4 года назад +754

    “Don’t trust him, Silver! He looks like a sleep-deprived, homeless person!”
    “Of course I look like a sleep-deprived, homeless person! We’re in a freaking war zone!”

  • @norealmagicever3292
    @norealmagicever3292 5 лет назад +1356

    i gotta say, the fortnite community just hasnt been the same since mephiles went on hiatus. i hope his ex-boyfriend shadow can get him to come back.

    • @rumeysaongul4765
      @rumeysaongul4765 5 лет назад +6

      Carnalval
      Yeah, xD

    • @breezyfan1012
      @breezyfan1012 4 года назад +1

      Lol snapcube refrains

    • @arkroyalthelolicon808
      @arkroyalthelolicon808 4 года назад +3

      Wtfh are you talking about Mephiles isn't im fortnite

    • @astrowyrm6871
      @astrowyrm6871 4 года назад +34

      @@arkroyalthelolicon808 hes talking about a video that snapcube made when they did a live fandub of sonic 06

    • @breezyfan1012
      @breezyfan1012 4 года назад +3

      pasword woosh

  • @cressedangel123
    @cressedangel123 5 лет назад +516

    Memphis Tennessee truly understood gamers, as he wanted to create Tilted Towers in the Sonic universe

    • @rumeysaongul4765
      @rumeysaongul4765 5 лет назад +8

      cressedangel123
      Oh wow! Yes, :D

    • @justarandombluebird8222
      @justarandombluebird8222 3 года назад +41

      To bad he got friend zone so frequently

    • @felobatirmoheb4884
      @felobatirmoheb4884 2 года назад +31

      @@justarandombluebird8222 and it isn't as pleasant as you'd think, they don't treat him like a friend, but as an *item* .

    • @Chief_-yb3fx
      @Chief_-yb3fx 2 года назад +19

      @@felobatirmoheb4884 well I'm not a gamer so maybe they'll respect me

    • @Joker_Zz
      @Joker_Zz 2 года назад +15

      @@Chief_-yb3fx That's the difference between you and me, Silver the Hedgehog... I'm an alpha gamer

  • @hydrastuff8029
    @hydrastuff8029 5 лет назад +723

    To be fair, if Mephiles were to come back, it would definitely have a Harley Quinn effect. People would love him more and more with every appearance. Especially with the vibe he gives out.

    • @ROT695
      @ROT695 4 года назад +59

      Cyber Stuff I feel like he’s the type of character you only bring out every now and again. Too much of him would make it so he isn’t as great anymore. All of the villains people seem to like are the ones that haven’t had many appearances. Chaos has appeared a few times now though 😅

    • @melissalopez154
      @melissalopez154 3 года назад +16

      -Limit breaker tenkaichi SS4 fan- Which is why he’s such a great villain!

    • @sackinator3k47
      @sackinator3k47 3 года назад +5

      Oh, hey comrade.

    • @ether2275
      @ether2275 3 года назад +9

      the vibe of an alpha gamer

    • @megaman37456
      @megaman37456 2 года назад +16

      @Fang Lazken AKA Ranshi Mephiles did in ONE game what Robotnik couldn't achieve in a FRANCHISE. Let that sink in. Mephiles IS a threat, and I think the reason we haven't seen Mephiles resurface is simply because he's too good at being a villain, he has no qualms killing without gloating, he likes to manipulate but he is willing to go for the quick kill. Eggman wants Sonic dead, but can never achieve it because in reality his robots are inferior to Sonics abilities, and Eggman NEVER learns from past defeats.

  • @sntzdtoxins
    @sntzdtoxins 5 лет назад +1208

    Another reason he is the best villain
    He's the only one that actually killed sonic
    edit: sonic had no idea who this guy was anyway, he just came up and said ight bro, you lost living privileges, just to continue his plan, while others are there because rawr, i dislike blue rat

    • @constantinb4592
      @constantinb4592 4 года назад +29

      You got TOTALLY right

    • @TusontTheOnly
      @TusontTheOnly 4 года назад +7

      True

    • @TusontTheOnly
      @TusontTheOnly 4 года назад +9

      Infinite lade the beat down but he killed him

    • @God-T
      @God-T 4 года назад +22

      Mephiles the only psychopath hedgehog, I love him

    • @EveCat2343
      @EveCat2343 4 года назад +48

      Right!?
      In SA2 Eggman got close to killing Sonic, and Shadow was close to destroying everyone, but both times they failed, either by unforeseen events or by their own change of heart.
      Mephiles had no change of heart, and he didn't give up. When Silver failed he did it himself. He's far more memorable than any other villain for that alone.

  • @remyrichardson2741
    @remyrichardson2741 4 года назад +238

    "I'm gonna do a little dance."
    -Memphis Tenessee

  • @khfan4life365
    @khfan4life365 5 лет назад +938

    Mephiles did what the other villains couldn’t. He actually succeeded in killing Sonic. His darkness, depth, and outright evil nature makes him a compelling villain. Regardless of how bad Sonic 06 was, it had a damn good villain.

    • @ali-kun7038
      @ali-kun7038 5 лет назад +59

      And the funny thing is he didn't intended to kill sonic, but since that was the only way to be solaris he did.

    • @austinserby219
      @austinserby219 5 лет назад +8

      No in generations eggman killed both sonics

    • @foolsfortune1677
      @foolsfortune1677 5 лет назад +41

      @@austinserby219
      Unconscious =/= Dead.

    • @pcruz-zd5tc
      @pcruz-zd5tc 5 лет назад +31

      Sonic 06 had a great villain a BEAUTIFUL soundtrack and a story I could enjoy the only things in my opinion that ruin sonic 06 for me is the bugs, the animation, the tedious jobs you have to do in the towns, the fact that silver is slow as hell, that damn ball part in one of silvers missions, the clunky and stiff gameplay, and the fact that all together it was a rushed game. If they truly took their time to flesh everything out make some changes tweak some things and find a way to make the game more enjoyable as the story progressed than I feel like sonic 06 once had the potential to be one of the best modern sonic games to date. If I could have one wish for sonic team its to remake this game from the ground up with the same overall story and much more improved and much more fun kinda like a soft reboot. Cause I would love to see a way better version of sonic 06.

    • @AeroFlash15
      @AeroFlash15 5 лет назад +10

      Ali_ Gaming. He did try to kill Sonic, albeit indirectly, through Silver. But since Silver failed too many times, Mephiles decided to take matters into his own hands.

  • @DemonikPrizm
    @DemonikPrizm 5 лет назад +958

    It could still happen. Shadow wasn't supposed to come back either.

    • @stoopiosproductions3130
      @stoopiosproductions3130 5 лет назад +85

      my pp wasnt supposed to come but it did

    • @impulse5674
      @impulse5674 5 лет назад +48

      The thing is shadow came back only like 3 years after sa2

    • @waringaw.m6350
      @waringaw.m6350 5 лет назад +26

      @@impulse5674 2*

    • @tythehedgechidnafox
      @tythehedgechidnafox 5 лет назад +64

      Possibly
      But we don’t have nearly as many people wanting Mephiles back as we did people sobbing over Shadow

    • @flainfan
      @flainfan 5 лет назад +58

      The difference is that Shadow wasn’t erased from existence like Mephiles was.

  • @orion_x-000
    @orion_x-000 5 лет назад +490

    Despite Sonic 06 not being the best Sonic Game, we can all agree that Mephiles was a really good villain for the Sonic Franchise.

  • @likecanyounot4763
    @likecanyounot4763 5 лет назад +70

    "They don't treat you like a friend.
    They treat you...like an _item_ "

  • @brosephnoonan223
    @brosephnoonan223 5 лет назад +531

    11:25
    _"...Still a good soundtrack though."_
    Sonic summarized in 5 words.

  • @Superluigi881
    @Superluigi881 5 лет назад +1294

    Infinite is just a much crappier Mephiles. He’s a try hard. Mephiles didn’t have to try to be intimidating. He just was.
    Thank you for so many likes btw. I appreciate it.

    • @SilverH3dgehogGameing
      @SilverH3dgehogGameing 5 лет назад +85

      Wheeze, Infinite is just a Mephiles want-to-be deep down.
      he's a fan boy of him

    • @Pop_Shuv
      @Pop_Shuv 5 лет назад +36

      Infinite is not that bad but I get what you mean :)

    • @impulse5674
      @impulse5674 5 лет назад +29

      AngelDog626 Kylo Ren and Darth Vader intensifies

    • @justalpha9138
      @justalpha9138 5 лет назад +24

      Infinite isn't THAT bad, but I can see why people like Mephiles.

    • @RedGoji
      @RedGoji 5 лет назад +4

      wow you coward infinite is not a mephiles he's a powerful villain

  • @chillyfizz9203
    @chillyfizz9203 5 лет назад +208

    Why Sonic Fans like Mephiles:
    1. He legit is the only one to kill Sonic.
    2. He is made of Shadow's Shadow and has a connection with him.
    3. He looks and acts cool
    4. Just coz

    • @games_on_phone89
      @games_on_phone89 4 года назад +36

      5.he's an alpha gamer that gets so TILTED at the TOWERS

    • @risottonero7118
      @risottonero7118 4 года назад +25

      6. He's part lizard

    • @games_on_phone89
      @games_on_phone89 4 года назад +19

      @@risottonero7118 7. he cosplayed as shadow AND a steven universe crystal gem at the same time

    • @chaos_doom1321
      @chaos_doom1321 4 года назад +7

      Damn, Mephiles is not Shadow's shadow. He is the evil conscience of a god. His true form is an amorphous mass of darkness. Mephiles is Solaris with half of all his power.

    • @tiruliru1189
      @tiruliru1189 3 года назад +2

      5. Mephiles is the most well-written character in my book.

  • @azurethegamerkobold5434
    @azurethegamerkobold5434 5 лет назад +255

    biggest mistake that forces made was not letting infinite take center stage... he should have double crossed Eggman, stole the chaos emeralds and mutated into some monster or became super powerful requiring sonic and the heroes to deal with a MUCH larger threat. Infinite had potential but it was squandered.

    • @Bullboy_Adventures
      @Bullboy_Adventures 3 года назад +26

      It's like the writers were trying their absolute hardest to not make infinite the main villain while making eggbotnik the main villain. Maybe they had already planned on doing what you said, but someone at the very last minute said NO, I WANT EGGMAN TO BE THE FINAL BOSS and just rushed it with infinite being sidelined

    • @Bullboy_Adventures
      @Bullboy_Adventures 3 года назад +8

      PS, imagine what infinite could do with the phantom ruby and all the chaos emeralds.

    • @YuriChan640
      @YuriChan640 2 года назад +6

      That would be better and it would also be better if Shadow and Infinite fight in the main story.

    • @217adaptiveperspective
      @217adaptiveperspective 2 года назад +6

      It feels like there was so much they could've done with Infinite using stuff that was already there but they just didn't for some reason...

    • @floricel_112
      @floricel_112 Год назад +3

      Controversial, maybe, but this is actually the *one* , *singular* aspect I will defend about forces: for the first time in *years* since Sonic 3, it is *Eggman* who double crosses the other villain and takes over as the main antagonist. For year up until this point, ever since Sonic 3, if the game featured a secondary antagonist/villain, that antagonist would either betray, overshadow, double cross Eggman and take over as the main antagonist/final boss. Chaos, Shadow, Metal Sonic, Black Doom, Mephiles, Eggman Nega *several times* , Emerl/Gizoid, Dark Gaia, the Babylon genie, that one robot in Gravity, the deadly six. The list goes on. And most these games would more of less follow the same story beats: secondary antagonist gets introduced, they beat Sonic up, they're revealed to be forced or willingly in cahoots with Eggman, rematch with Sonic eventually, they break free from Eggman (Eggman does something optional), turn the tables on him and take over, final boss time. It's been so overdone and been happening for so long that the moment Infinite was introduced I was waiting for these exact story beats, and for the most part they did, that when it was *Eggman* who double crossed and turned on Infinite, I breathed a sigh of relief. Because for the longest Eggman has felt like a secondary antagonist in his own series. He's felt more like a king Dedede than a Bowser, if you like that comparison

  • @fiveslash6081
    @fiveslash6081 5 лет назад +548

    Eggman outdated
    Infinite overrated
    Long have we waited
    *Mephiles activated*

    • @nota444tm2
      @nota444tm2 5 лет назад +27

      Never saw infinite overrated. I always saw metal sonic overrated, but still a badass villain.

    • @driley1988
      @driley1988 4 года назад +6

      I wouldn't call infinite overrated

    • @-hello6177
      @-hello6177 4 года назад +4

      @@nota444tm2 depends on the metal sonic, some are shit some are good

    • @newpancakeman
      @newpancakeman 4 года назад

      SleepyWolf Obama was displeased in eggman’s rather vile actions

    • @alexanderramos353
      @alexanderramos353 3 года назад

      (Mephiles has activated) (Infinite and eggman give mephiles a death eye stare) (Mephiles *disactivated*)

  • @Nov-5062
    @Nov-5062 5 лет назад +1267

    Mephiles is such a great character. he had so much depth and gloom and mystery that can add so much to the sonic universe.
    Finally I get likes for saying good stuff about Sonic 06, and not threats to my life.

    • @hattanalshutaifi4587
      @hattanalshutaifi4587 5 лет назад +51

      Nov 5062 Despite the infamy of his debut game, Mephiles proved to be an extremely popular Sonic villain.

    • @BardockSkywalker
      @BardockSkywalker 5 лет назад +28

      @Kokkino I Think That's What Make Him Such An Amazing Character, Unlike Other Antagonists In The Series Where Even In The Worst Situations, We Usually Didn't Took Them Seriously, We *COULD NOT* See Melhiles The Same Way, Cause He Was Intiminating & Treathning By *JUST* Being There & Every Time He Shows Up, It's Made Up Like A Big Deal... Because... *IT IS* A Big Deal, His Personality Also Was Pretty Unique For A Sonic Antagonist & Character, He Was Powerful, Destructive & Cruel, But Smart, Manipulative & Freaking Terrifying, Something Other Sonic Villians R Not, We Never Got Scared By A Sonic Villian The Same Way Mephiles Did... & Maybe That's Y Alot Of People (Myself Included) Either Love To Hate This Guy, Or Just Straight Adore Him

    • @hattanalshutaifi4587
      @hattanalshutaifi4587 5 лет назад +11

      Kokkino he is also complete monster

    • @thenightwolfgame2422
      @thenightwolfgame2422 5 лет назад +8

      I agreed

    • @Nov-5062
      @Nov-5062 5 лет назад +4

      @@buffkangaroodog not necessarily.

  • @byakurenbreak
    @byakurenbreak 5 лет назад +138

    “Well, it’s a gamer pad. Not many girls come in here because I get friend zoned so frequently.”

    • @lorddanny2988
      @lorddanny2988  5 лет назад +39

      "I'd like to be in the friendzone! I'd like friends!"

    • @RENNYEIGHT
      @RENNYEIGHT 3 года назад +15

      @No U They don't treat you like a friend, they treat you like an item

    • @disgustingweeb1059
      @disgustingweeb1059 3 года назад +14

      Sometimes I wish I could be more than just an accessory to these women, but unfortunately as a gamer, I don’t get respect.

    • @jesalt8230
      @jesalt8230 3 года назад +14

      @@disgustingweeb1059 I'm not a gamer so maybe they'll respect me

    • @jeffreycarey1680
      @jeffreycarey1680 2 года назад +3

      @@jesalt8230 "That just makes you a beta cuck. [pause] That's the... that's the difference between you and I, Silver the Hedgehog. I'm a... I'm an AlpHa gaMER..."

  • @GoldenPhaze
    @GoldenPhaze 4 года назад +141

    They won't bring him back because they don't treat him like a friend, but they treat him like an iTeM..

    • @thedude1302
      @thedude1302 Год назад +3

      Well you see, it's a gamer pad

    • @pokehearts121
      @pokehearts121 Год назад

      That just makes you a beta cuck

    • @kai_fatallysapphic
      @kai_fatallysapphic 11 месяцев назад

      well I'm not a character owned by Sega, so maybe they'll respect me!

    • @GoldenPhaze
      @GoldenPhaze 11 месяцев назад

      @@kai_fatallysapphic That just makes you a beta cuck..

  • @OnefinityAnimationsTSF101
    @OnefinityAnimationsTSF101 5 лет назад +338

    Even Sonic 06 was a rushed game, Mephiles was a well-written character!

    • @Nitroboost245
      @Nitroboost245 5 лет назад +25

      probably the reason why it was rushed. then again, maybe Mephiles was rushed too and the developers just got him perfect by fluke

    • @rumeysaongul4765
      @rumeysaongul4765 5 лет назад +3

      Nitroboost245 - NitroNation Leader
      Maybe....xD

    • @nellewoodruff6337
      @nellewoodruff6337 5 лет назад +1

      @@Nitroboost245 It makes me sad how likely this is...

    • @felipe_drawmania1604
      @felipe_drawmania1604 5 лет назад

      @@Nitroboost245 It was time constraints(1 year development only).

    • @BioCraftHero
      @BioCraftHero 5 лет назад +2

      Something cool about Sonic ‘06 that I ended up particularly enjoying was the villain(s). The designs were actually pretty good, with Memphis Tennessee and Iblis all showing how those characters were. The final boss being Solaris (?) was actually kinda neat, and I kinda liked the design they went with. The story to the game was good too, and honestly it’d probably be amazing if it actually wasn’t a sonic game.

  • @imp8453
    @imp8453 5 лет назад +441

    Welcome to my gamer pad... Not many girls come here because i get friendszoned so frequently

    • @rumeysaongul4765
      @rumeysaongul4765 5 лет назад +6

      Alexis the Hyena
      Priceless referrence. XD

    • @JupiterDude3000
      @JupiterDude3000 4 года назад +9

      Alexis the Hyena I like the friendzone, I like friends

    • @kcOupons
      @kcOupons 4 года назад +15

      It's not as pleasant as you think... They don't treat you like a friend... they treat you like an item...

    • @BlueRyuu246
      @BlueRyuu246 4 года назад +6

      Somehow I wish I can be more than...just an ACCESSORY to these women, but as a gamer I don't get respect.

    • @epicmaj8r
      @epicmaj8r 4 года назад +5

      @@BlueRyuu246 I'm not a gamer. So maybe...they'll respect me!

  • @SooperExuberant444
    @SooperExuberant444 5 лет назад +67

    Memphis Tennessee WAS a great villain.

  • @OminousBlast
    @OminousBlast 5 лет назад +372

    Why I like Mephiles:
    He is an actual threat
    He has good depth.
    He looks cool.
    He’s a hedgehog and not some huge monster type thing so he seems very powerful for who he is.

    • @taupe5799
      @taupe5799 5 лет назад +22

      And not built built by eggman

    • @kurokoro
      @kurokoro 5 лет назад +8

      And he doesnt have a mouth,weird...

    • @deanmoriarty6015
      @deanmoriarty6015 5 лет назад +29

      not really a hedgehog, he just took the shape of shadow so he could have a physical form

    • @akumaking1
      @akumaking1 5 лет назад +12

      And he's voices by Dan Green

    • @yoshithinksyourwrong6367
      @yoshithinksyourwrong6367 5 лет назад

      So metal sonic.You're thinking of metal sonic

  • @remixtrick
    @remixtrick 5 лет назад +672

    Sega should just remake 06. They wouldn't necessarily have change many things about the game's story, just fix the glitches, improve the graphics, etc.

    • @jttk5995
      @jttk5995 5 лет назад +51

      Remixtrick Fans creators are remaking sonic 06 you should check it out if you want

    • @twistedtwistan5576
      @twistedtwistan5576 5 лет назад +199

      And get rid of the human and hedgehog romance

    • @TheAbsol7448
      @TheAbsol7448 5 лет назад +54

      I do think they would need to patch up the story.

    • @demoriginal
      @demoriginal 5 лет назад +4

      Fm 64 WAIT REALLY

    • @demoriginal
      @demoriginal 5 лет назад +4

      Twistan Connor yes plz i disliked that

  • @Mariodash23
    @Mariodash23 5 лет назад +185

    I’ve always believed that Sonic the Hedgehog should have what I can a “Maypole Character Story”, wherein you introduce your main character in your first installment, establish them, and when introducing other characters and villains they have more interesting stories, development, and interactions. This kinda thing is what I feel the Adventure Era of Sonic got down and what’s made it (in my opinion) the best era of Sonic in terms of characters and writing. Sonic was the protagonist, but his friends all developed in their own ways because of their interactions and relationship with Sonic and the villains all had a specific narrative theme to them.
    Chaos and Gerald were fueled by their hatred and sorrow, resulting in them wanting to destroy the world.
    Black Doom intended to destroy Earth while taking advantage of a powerful weapon he could control. That being Shadow who was resurrected with barely any of his memories.
    Mephilis was a being of pure darkness intent on becoming a god, ruling over all of Time itself.
    As for Sonics friends, Tails learned to become his own kind of hero based on his time with Sonic.
    Amy became less dependent upon Sonic and start protecting herself.
    Shadow found his peace with the trauma of his past, his creation, and would try to help protect the world in his own way (even if he is too edgy to admit that).
    This is why I feel the later Sonic games have been disappointing narrative wise. They throw out the “Maypole Character Story” idea and instead just have Sonic save the day every time while all his friends just sit on the sidelines not doing much.

    • @rumeysaongul4765
      @rumeysaongul4765 5 лет назад +12

      Red Blade Renegade
      Wow! I totally agree with you! I miss that narrative as well!

    • @ROT695
      @ROT695 4 года назад +6

      Red Blade Renegade It’s the same with sonic Unleashed too. Most of the character development was for Chip and who helped him with that? Sonic 🤔

    • @birdwhoknowswhatsgood1483
      @birdwhoknowswhatsgood1483 3 года назад +4

      Black Knight did a great job of adding more to his character without necessarily having to develop him much more. You get to actually see his philosophical side and his beliefs like life having an end is what makes it great and something going on forever isn’t necessarily a good thing. But it mostly has the effect that you described with the other characters developing because of him like stopping Gawain from killing himself and helping Merlina overcome her grief and fear. One of the reasons it's up in my top 10
      Sonic games

  • @haoujudai
    @haoujudai 5 лет назад +85

    Aside from Dark Gaia, Mephiles was the only villain in the Sonic series to truly make you feel that everything was on the line when dealing with him. He set a standard for the series that no other villain has been able to match TO DATE and it’s sad that they won’t expand on the foundation he made for the Sonic series.

    • @__0bliv1on__
      @__0bliv1on__ Год назад +3

      With The End making their appearance to the series, the comment is now currently outdated

    • @Cimmerian_Iter
      @Cimmerian_Iter 8 месяцев назад

      @@__0bliv1on__ the end? you mean that joke of final boss in sonic frontiers?

  • @DarkFrozenDepths
    @DarkFrozenDepths 5 лет назад +235

    Mephiles was the only one to LITERALLY KILL SONIC... Not even Eggman did that...
    No, he is best villain by a landslide...

    • @Lunarstar57
      @Lunarstar57 5 лет назад +6

      Eggman never killed Sonic but the moment in SA2 where he almost did is still pretty iconic

    • @elijahbradley704
      @elijahbradley704 5 лет назад

      While I do think Mephilis is a great villain, my favorite sonic character is metal sonic.

    • @gamejitzu
      @gamejitzu 5 лет назад +6

      I mean to be fair, Mephilles just sneak attacked Sonic while he was minding his own business. Eggman wouldn't do that, he wants to prove he's superior, and completely outmatch Sonic in every way possible (and make him suffer). So a normal surprise kill isn't really how Eggman does things. After all there were a lot of chances Eggman's had if he wanted to just kill him

    • @yoshithinksyourwrong6367
      @yoshithinksyourwrong6367 5 лет назад

      He's just metal sonic,but he can talk.

    • @thegreatcaboose7744
      @thegreatcaboose7744 5 лет назад +5

      Gaming Sensei also, Sonic never once meets Mephiles in the entire game, I’m pretty sure he doesn’t even know he exists lol

  • @HiddenWhiteFang
    @HiddenWhiteFang 5 лет назад +241

    I've avoided '06 everything because of the rep it gets, even though I've always wanted to play it because the story always sounded interesting... I feel like I should at least watch a playthrough just to get a feel for this character... Yes, bring him back, SEGA.

    • @lorddanny2988
      @lorddanny2988  5 лет назад +41

      I'd suggest playing it. It only gets a bad rep because at the time it was a disappointment and fans didn't like the change from the Adventure style, or the new voice actors. It's actually not that bad unless you deliberately hunt for the glitches.

    • @HiddenWhiteFang
      @HiddenWhiteFang 5 лет назад +15

      @@lorddanny2988 That's the first time anyone has ever encouraged me to play '06. I'd love to, but I'm waiting for backwards compatibility on Xbox One... If they ever do it...

    • @alimajeed9185
      @alimajeed9185 4 года назад +13

      Definitely give it a go! It's maybe not for everyone but it's about as shounen as SA1 and S2, and in a lot of ways it's easily the most narratively ambitious game in the series. A three-way time travelling epic with an emphasis on more dramatic elements, it doesn't fulfil all it's potential that's for sure, but it's about as high brow as the series has gotten. I'd kill for a better shot at what this game was going for.

    • @mistyBubblez
      @mistyBubblez 3 года назад +6

      Same!!! But I have the game! And only played a little bit of it, I’ve been a play through, Sonic 06 is’nt even bad expect for Elise kisses Sonic.

    • @mistyBubblez
      @mistyBubblez 3 года назад +1

      @@HiddenWhiteFang same!

  • @shiruotakuno28
    @shiruotakuno28 5 лет назад +188

    Good villain, bad game.
    Imagine what Sonic 06 would've been like with a better staff and 1 more year in development.

    • @felipe_drawmania1604
      @felipe_drawmania1604 5 лет назад +16

      Like Unleashed had.

    • @marcodestefano7119
      @marcodestefano7119 4 года назад +29

      Imagine an alternate universe where people love Sonic '07 and praise it like the best Sonic game...

    • @topcoppelion6626
      @topcoppelion6626 4 года назад +13

      @@marcodestefano7119 And as a bonus if it was Sonic 07 then there would be no Sonic and the secret rings! Epic Win.

    • @_Tzer
      @_Tzer 4 года назад +5

      No forces had more time and look at it

    • @_Tzer
      @_Tzer 4 года назад

      @@topcoppelion6626 we wouldnt get darkspine dat bad

  • @MetalMania343
    @MetalMania343 4 года назад +69

    The entire comment section is just SnapCube references.

  • @juggernautk.captain5845
    @juggernautk.captain5845 5 лет назад +203

    So basically 'dark' version of Shadow... which Shadow was essentially dark Sonic...
    So, dark-dark Sonic?

    • @koolmckool7039
      @koolmckool7039 5 лет назад +7

      @chiliad You just said it without that pass. 😱

    • @koolmckool7039
      @koolmckool7039 5 лет назад +1

      @chiliad Lol.

    • @DarkBlade6690
      @DarkBlade6690 5 лет назад +4

      Nah... 🤔 more like darker or way darker Sonic 😂

    • @returnedtomonkey8886
      @returnedtomonkey8886 5 лет назад +11

      Shadow - Daniel
      Mephiles - cooler Daniel

    • @Jellyman4
      @Jellyman4 5 лет назад +8

      Your profile mactches exactly what u said here.literally.

  • @dianewierzbicki1997
    @dianewierzbicki1997 5 лет назад +660

    I think SEGA should give Mephiles a chance, either allowing their employees or even their fans to remake Sonic 06 to the way it should be, or let Ian Flynn use his early concept for the Shadow Fall arc from the Archie Comics and use it for a new game or in the IDW comics.
    FYI: there are some fans that are working on a mod called “Legacy of Solaris” that is to fix the rushed and unfairly hated game.

    • @strubberyg7451
      @strubberyg7451 5 лет назад +41

      Well, it is fairly hated for some reasons. A lot of reasons actually. The hate is over amplified, but "rushed development" is not a get out of jail card. They decided to split the development on it, they decided to rush it to launch, it's their fault.
      I'd like to see that fan mod though...

    • @ofbeastsandblades4570
      @ofbeastsandblades4570 5 лет назад +6

      Might I ask what the original concept for Shadow Fall was?

    • @dianewierzbicki1997
      @dianewierzbicki1997 5 лет назад +14

      @@ofbeastsandblades4570 I think it was the Black Arms Invasion that has been building up from #171 of Archie's Sonic, and it was stated that Mephiles was going to make an appearance as well.

    • @ofbeastsandblades4570
      @ofbeastsandblades4570 5 лет назад +3

      Hmm, interesting.

    • @mystic_ramen
      @mystic_ramen 5 лет назад +7

      @@strubberyg7451 How is it their fault for rushing something just because people broke apart from the team, and it was THEIR decision. It just sounds like you're hating on someone's good effort, but I'd kinda appreciate if you'd elaborate on what you we're saying.

  • @sonicfan2403
    @sonicfan2403 5 лет назад +73

    Honestly at this point, there is no harm in bringing him back. You can even right around the whole erasing the events thing and say that he managed to slip through the cracks of time and travel to another dimension. Now that doesn't mean everyone will remember him from that time, but he remembers them and plot for revenge! I would like him to be a boogey man for Silver, he haunts him in his dreams, and appears like a hallucination kind of Slade was to Robin in Teen Titan's. At this point, there are ways for SEGA and Sonic Team to bring back this character without contradicting 06's ending!

  • @wildmonkeycar
    @wildmonkeycar 5 лет назад +353

    I’d be up for a full-on remake of 06, honestly. With enough time and effort, it could be the great game it was meant to be

    • @grim6865
      @grim6865 5 лет назад +25

      there’s a fan remake in progress of 06 and gameplay wise it’s really good so far

    • @Therevengeforget
      @Therevengeforget 2 года назад +2

      @@grim6865 hey, is it up?

    • @fatfrancis1106
      @fatfrancis1106 2 года назад

      @@grim6865 serious??

    • @Moda-pf8wt
      @Moda-pf8wt Год назад

      @@fatfrancis1106 Sonic P-06 is still in the works, but the gameplay got reworked and it's amazing!

  • @knux7468
    @knux7468 5 лет назад +329

    I do agree with you that his appearance in 06 was iconic and that he shouldnt return. I personally feel that him returning would definitely affect his value as a character and could possibly be damaged if hes not presented right.

    • @hattanalshutaifi4587
      @hattanalshutaifi4587 5 лет назад +31

      Eddie B. Despite the infamy of his debut game, Mephiles proved to be an extremely popular Sonic villain.

    • @Eichro
      @Eichro 5 лет назад +6

      Just like Shadow. Shadow would be held much more dearly if he just stayed dead, but now he's just "one more friend".

    • @hattanalshutaifi4587
      @hattanalshutaifi4587 5 лет назад +10

      Eichro should noted shadow is second most popular character after sonic

    • @jaydenc367
      @jaydenc367 5 лет назад +1

      @@Eichroeh I like shadow being alive...still think he's overrated AF though

    • @oliverkirkland9332
      @oliverkirkland9332 5 лет назад +1

      I mostly agree with you; Mephiles coming back in newer games would affect the quality of his character, but I personally think that he should be reintroduced so a wider population of Sonic fans can see what an ACTUALLY decent Sonic villain is.
      How could this be accomplished? I think Sonic 06 should be remade (hopefully by a more competent team and without rushed deadlines), thus keeping Mephiles in his "original game" while making the game more relevant to younger people (because I doubt that anyone who didn't already have a copy of 06 would just stumble upon a video like this and go "hey I should go buy a game that's more than a decade old").
      I think that Mephiles could still "reappear" in future games, in a sense...Basically, the writers (probably in that 06 remake that I still want) just need to insert some lore about how (after beating 06 or an 06 remake) Mephiles may not have been born, but due to his time-manipulation powers some part of him still exists in the time-space continuum; That, coupled with Time Eater's appearance and theme, would be enough to imply that Time Eater is canonically that leftover part of Mephiles.
      Hell, if they wanted to take the idea even farther, the writers could maybe even say that Dark Gaia is also a part of Mephiles (though I'm really only saying that based on its coloration and the minions you fight as Were Sonic); If they changed the Phantom Ruby's colors from red to purple, the writers could even possibly get away with saying that Infinite is being influenced to behave like Mephiles (by implying that the Phantom Ruby is also a part of Mephiles), which could then explain why he's a...rather shitty imitation of Mephiles (since he's not Mephiles, but with his thoughts and actions being indirectly influenced by him).
      I mean...this idea would overwrite a lot of pre-established Sonic lore, but honestly, a lot of the existing Sonic lore is shit anyways and it would create some cohesion between the games...somewhat.

  • @goose8614
    @goose8614 5 лет назад +109

    Mephiles is practically Segas Darth Maul. A cool looking, interesting character that fans had wanted to see more of and yet the company behind them refuse to do so.

    • @marcodestefano7119
      @marcodestefano7119 4 года назад +5

      Darth maul had other appearances though, unlike Mephiles...

    • @topcoppelion6626
      @topcoppelion6626 4 года назад +5

      @@marcodestefano7119 I don't think appearances in media like the Clone Wars (cannon) are able to be compared to Mobile game cash-ins..

    • @Zeed_316
      @Zeed_316 4 года назад

      Plus both were introduced in a game/movie that concept wise, had a really good story, but was poorly executed.

    • @messofabeing9392
      @messofabeing9392 3 года назад +2

      Opposite, actually. Darth Maul appears way too much, despite already serving his purpose; Mephiles has a lot of remaining potential but it still hasn't been taken advantage of.

  • @george_MF_washington
    @george_MF_washington 5 лет назад +115

    Its Memphis,
    Memphis Tennessee

  • @killjoy516
    @killjoy516 5 лет назад +32

    Honestly, one of the things to me that makes him the best Villain of any Sonic game to me, is the fact that HE'S THE ONLY ONE TO EVER ACTUALLY KILL SONIC, AND HE DID IT IN TEN SECONDS OR LESS.

    • @Therevengeforget
      @Therevengeforget 2 года назад +5

      Eggman: I have over 30 years of experience with dealing with that gosh darn hedgehog!
      Mephiles: ... *kills Sonic in just one, precise, and deadly strike*
      Eggman: HOW?!

    • @thequagestclodsire
      @thequagestclodsire Год назад +3

      @@Therevengeforget "He stepped on my front lawn."

  • @TussalDragon344
    @TussalDragon344 5 лет назад +86

    "The main antagonist of the game was a monster which seemed to consist of nothing but DARKNESS"
    Okay, I believe you

    • @Karmalu
      @Karmalu 4 года назад +7

      Darkness after darkness after darkness after darkness

  • @soopakoopa6461
    @soopakoopa6461 5 лет назад +41

    So Infinite adopted the dark, while Mephiles was born in it. Let the Bane jokes commence.

  • @RaxusXeronos
    @RaxusXeronos 5 лет назад +12

    Another thing seems to be after changing, Mephiles doesn't seem to move his eyes to look at characters, he turns his head to stare dead at them.

    • @lorddanny2988
      @lorddanny2988  5 лет назад +3

      That's true. I only remember his eye moving once and that was during his first cutscene with Shadow.

  • @queenthaliathegraceful9598
    @queenthaliathegraceful9598 5 лет назад +24

    "I too have insomnia. But unlike you, it is not because I have depression. You see, I stay up late to play Fortnite and go to Tilted Towers" - Memphis Tennessee

  • @TheAbsol7448
    @TheAbsol7448 5 лет назад +42

    It's an absolute shame that the game was never delayed. The result is an absolute clusterfuck, but it had so much potential.

  • @Soldier-kc2bu
    @Soldier-kc2bu 5 лет назад +206

    The only way Mephiles could possibly return is if SEGA remakes Sonic 06 in a way that it's supposed to be...
    I personally hope that SEGA would remake Sonic 06 & make it into the 15th Anniversary Sonic game we've all wanted generations ago, who agrees?

    • @humanarian
      @humanarian 5 лет назад +18

      That would be the best! That game needs a proper remastering, _especially_ those awful in-game cutscenes that are just a pain to watch. With the modern technology and lots of experience, Sonic '06 can be turned into the absolute best Sonic game that has ever existed!

    • @magicman6908
      @magicman6908 5 лет назад +11

      @@humanarian ive always liked the sonic 06 idea and story just not the gameplay. i think that a lot of things can be done really really right with sonic 06 since it really is a continuation of the sonic adventure games. but, hey, who knows. id like moreand better but this is sega we are talking about

    • @PotatoPatatoVonSpudsworth
      @PotatoPatatoVonSpudsworth 5 лет назад +4

      Soldier 76 | It wouldn't work. The game has so much bad blood around it and you'd only be reminding people of your greatest failure. Trying to convince already scarred consumers that this time it'll be different? They may as well try and re-make the Star Wars Prequels while they're at it. Sure, you'd buy the game, but not very many people share your faith. You'd have to throw everything you had at the project to show people it wouldn't be the same, and at that point the risk of losing everything would be to high.

    • @demi-yeethus5440
      @demi-yeethus5440 5 лет назад +2

      I think that there is a project dedicated to remaster Sonic 06 by ChaosX, and so far it's pretty good concerning the gameplay.

    • @Prinzherbert
      @Prinzherbert 5 лет назад +1

      @@PotatoPatatoVonSpudsworth Did you know people can now easily search for gameplays in RUclips? If people see the game, they will most likely see gameplays of it before buying. So, if the game is good, people are gonna buy it and it could change how 06 is always considered the horrible Sonic game.

  • @MrDarthCIS
    @MrDarthCIS 4 года назад +30

    I hope he returns some day, such a villain deserves to appear in more than one game, I love how chilling he was.

  • @ELFKNMAPO
    @ELFKNMAPO 5 лет назад +57

    Mephiles is probably the best sonic villain in the franchise tbh. Cant think of anyone else with the same amount of character and conceptualization as him

  • @spareaccount9360
    @spareaccount9360 5 лет назад +141

    OH MY GOD
    I LEGIT THOUGHT I WAS THE ONLY ONE THAT WANTS TO SEE HIM AGAIN
    I mean, the game is shit, but he’s my favourite Sonic villain hands down.

    • @mrreyes5004
      @mrreyes5004 5 лет назад +6

      Love how one of the worst games has one of the best villains.
      Infinite's just a bootleg Mephiles, if anything. More bark than bite, far less developed and not even half as intimidating.

    • @silencedkarma7154
      @silencedkarma7154 5 лет назад +1

      @@mrreyes5004 and best soundtracks

    • @burntnutz69
      @burntnutz69 5 лет назад +2

      He's my favorite *character*

  • @divineshrek3307
    @divineshrek3307 5 лет назад +41

    Mephiles:*kills sonic*
    Eggman:TEACH ME YOUR WAYS!!!

    • @charliefunk3309
      @charliefunk3309 4 года назад

      Ha Ha nice joke 😂

    • @Karmalu
      @Karmalu 4 года назад

      Eggman could’ve easily killed Sonic in Unleashed with the device he used to turn him into a Werehog

    • @katieshadowsong4665
      @katieshadowsong4665 4 года назад

      wolftrooper 359 he didn’t mean to pull it out

    • @ROT695
      @ROT695 4 года назад +1

      The Prince Vegeta At this point I don’t think Eggman really truly wants to kill Sonic. I mean what would he do after? He’d probably create Eggman Land and after a while get bored 😂

  • @friesforlife8120
    @friesforlife8120 5 лет назад +32

    Mephiles was a sonic character that sometimes reminded me of a final fantasy villain. I don’t like him as much as die hard fans but he was interesting and probably one of the best sonic villains so far.

    • @humangirl2122
      @humangirl2122 3 года назад +5

      He was like Sega's own Organization XIII.

  • @waterPsychiatrist
    @waterPsychiatrist 5 лет назад +5

    Every time it shows footage of Mephiles, i can hear the Sonic 06 Fandub

  • @iscream4761
    @iscream4761 5 лет назад +363

    Today's Sega can't be trusted in bringing back the Mephiles we saw in 06, they want money not deep storylines :(
    Still, some slight references in the main games would be a nice touch, but again, today's Sega isn't good at handling character depth (take a look at forces tails)

    • @marx4538
      @marx4538 5 лет назад +17

      Every company wants money.

    • @AAhmou
      @AAhmou 5 лет назад +20

      More like the actual Sonic team doesn't understand their previous creations.

    • @cody2819
      @cody2819 5 лет назад +10

      I actually think they put more focus in the story than gameplay now or days. Not every Sonic game has to be more dark and "OMG fate rests on Sonic" than the last. But, that's story based gaming for ya.
      Here's an idea---focus on Sonic and Metal (Sonic) for a game. Doesn't need to be Heroes or anything, but Unleashed did well with so few characters.

    • @CedroEscarlate
      @CedroEscarlate 5 лет назад +7

      What's stupid because deep storylines + hard work make lots of more money

    • @eezybihh
      @eezybihh 5 лет назад +4

      @@marx4538 Duh. But most company pleases fans, Sega at this point instead of giving us a cake they just toss mud pies at our feet

  • @ForgottenSon_
    @ForgottenSon_ 5 лет назад +132

    There's a quote I said to me friend a while back
    It's "A good villain can make even a bad story great"
    and that's true for Mephiles, wouldn't you agree?

    • @Cromwell2903
      @Cromwell2903 5 лет назад +10

      Well, Sonic 06 still wasn't a good story, but it would've been far worse without someone like Mephiles

    • @user-eu4bq8wn8w
      @user-eu4bq8wn8w 5 лет назад +1

      Yes luv i agree with u whole heartedly

    • @silkworm2595
      @silkworm2595 5 лет назад +1

      No because that makes no sense

    • @oliverkirkland9332
      @oliverkirkland9332 5 лет назад

      @@Cromwell2903 agreed

    • @jold3174
      @jold3174 5 лет назад +1

      The only redeeming quality was him

  • @melsthetrashlord4108
    @melsthetrashlord4108 5 лет назад +38

    I like how you say Mephiles couldn’t come back cause of his fate in 06, but we all know Sega doesn’t care about continuity anymore!
    Classic Sonic and Blaze’s backstories for example. They got changed with just a rewrite and nothing else.
    So yeah they could just bring him back with a new backstory cause Sega just doesn’t care really that much about plot holes or continuity anymore! :D

    • @felipe_drawmania1604
      @felipe_drawmania1604 5 лет назад +3

      Blaze's backstory changed?Isn't she still from another dimension?
      And Classic Sonic,that's more of a mess than anything.

    • @melsthetrashlord4108
      @melsthetrashlord4108 5 лет назад +3

      Felipe_ DrawMania No in 06 they changed her backstory to just being the future with Silver. She isn’t even a Queen anymore and just Silvers mentor lol-

    • @felipe_drawmania1604
      @felipe_drawmania1604 5 лет назад

      @@melsthetrashlord4108 I pretty sure they don't acknowledge that anymore.

    • @felipe_drawmania1604
      @felipe_drawmania1604 5 лет назад

      @@melsthetrashlord4108 The one who truly got confusing was Eggman Nega.

    • @melsthetrashlord4108
      @melsthetrashlord4108 5 лет назад +2

      Felipe_ DrawMania Hm yeah, but I’m not sure if they honestly changed Blaze’s backstory back to normal or not. Tho if you take Sonic Forces as is she isn’t there at all, so I guess you can use the as confirming she is back in her own dimension? I don’t know Sega is weird with Sonic lore-

  • @DoomPickle490
    @DoomPickle490 5 лет назад +31

    Sonic 06 was obviously a bad game but if it gave us anything good besides the soundtrack it’s Silver and Mephiles. The biggest thing with Mephilies is that as much as I love Eggman. He’s hard to take serious because he’s a goof ball villain. Mephilies is a serious villain that is ruthless and evil in a way Eggman just isn’t. I had a ton of hope for Infinite even if he wasn’t Mephilies but his writing honestly ruined him

  • @itzjdude616
    @itzjdude616 5 лет назад +22

    Mephiles is the most focused sonic bad guy. The closest we have gotten was metal sonic in sonic heroes.

  • @BradynNewcomer
    @BradynNewcomer 5 лет назад +39

    I'll be honest, I like this character despite the many flaws he had, and his voice is so unsettling, it's perfect.

  • @xvaderxkiller5190
    @xvaderxkiller5190 4 года назад +5

    06 is underrated for so many reasons it's sad

  • @somewhatokperson8007
    @somewhatokperson8007 4 года назад +10

    "They don't treat you like a friend, they treat you like an item. I want to be more than just an accessory."
    BTW the first scene of mephelis you saw was also my first scene of him.
    I remember 1st grade and when I saw the scene where he killed sonic I got scared af

  • @discountaccountstudios8789
    @discountaccountstudios8789 5 лет назад +212

    Mephiles actually appeared in the scrouge comic where he’s in jail

    • @SilverH3dgehogGameing
      @SilverH3dgehogGameing 5 лет назад +38

      hah yeah, I liked that little reference, it seemed to imply he knew Scourge in a way lol

    • @SomaCruztheDemigodofBalance
      @SomaCruztheDemigodofBalance 5 лет назад +17

      Perhaps he was the Anti-Shadow, then.

    • @discountaccountstudios8789
      @discountaccountstudios8789 5 лет назад +14

      Soma Cruz the Demigod of Balance nah shadow is more of a anti mephiles

    • @HarmonyBunny
      @HarmonyBunny 5 лет назад +7

      @@discountaccountstudios8789 Are you sure? Mephiles copied Shadow's appearance, therefore he's an Anti-Shadow.

    • @jasper8952
      @jasper8952 5 лет назад +5

      HarmonyBunny yes

  • @FurryWhoGames
    @FurryWhoGames 5 лет назад +20

    I’m glad people still talk about this Villian, I want him back

  • @numberoneintrovert
    @numberoneintrovert 5 лет назад +79

    Infinite: Dragon Ball Z villain.
    Mephiles: Lovable Dragon Ball Z villain.

    • @kaptainkibiroproductions45
      @kaptainkibiroproductions45 5 лет назад +9

      So infinite is Fat Buu as a villain and mephiles is cell or frieza or something

    • @numberoneintrovert
      @numberoneintrovert 5 лет назад +12

      @@kaptainkibiroproductions45 Yeah. Something like that. Except Mephiles actually has a temper that lasts more than 1.5 seconds worth of dynamite. Also, he looks cooler.

    • @disappointed8759
      @disappointed8759 3 года назад +6

      Nah, i'd say Mephiles is what the majority of Z villains are (quality), and Infinite what Super's villains are (trash)

    • @specialbeamvegeta4059
      @specialbeamvegeta4059 2 года назад +1

      @@disappointed8759 tbf Super literally only had ONE villain lol

  • @divine.fn_
    @divine.fn_ 5 лет назад +20

    I just thought about this: what if they brought back mephiles to manipulate infinite? And not only that, but to think like him too? That would be badass

  • @DylanofScreenTime
    @DylanofScreenTime 5 лет назад +106

    My idea as to how Mephilies could come back, is if he was in Shadow's mind.
    He couldn't mind control him, he couldn't hurt him, he's just an entity inside of Shadow's mind.
    He could manipulate Shadow in a certain way, saying stuff like "This is the only way, this is how it was meant to be."
    It could be interesting nonetheless, cuz that would imply that Shadow is the only one who remembers the events of Sonic 06.

    • @Superstarzs2000
      @Superstarzs2000 5 лет назад +20

      Agree although it will probably make sense if Mephiles communicated by Shadow’s shadow.

    • @DylanofScreenTime
      @DylanofScreenTime 5 лет назад +15

      Yeah, something like that.
      Or in Shadow’s reflection in water.
      That seems creepy and definitely something Mephiles would do.

    • @TheBohobemeister
      @TheBohobemeister 5 лет назад +7

      Why would Shadow be the only one to remember the events of Sonic 06?

    • @Cromwell2903
      @Cromwell2903 5 лет назад +5

      I don't see why Shadow would be the only one to remember, its implied that Sonic and Elise remember partially

    • @DylanofScreenTime
      @DylanofScreenTime 5 лет назад +4

      Well for two reasons.
      1:Cuz he’s the ultimate life form.
      2:In my head, I would imagine that the only kind of people that could remember a time wipe, are androids.
      (That’s what I would say, anyway)
      I think that sounds interesting, and it could add more to Shadow’s character, with us asking how does he handle those memories?

  • @shiritsuskorone405
    @shiritsuskorone405 5 лет назад +209

    If they bring Mephiles back, they need Iblis for it....but other than that there is nothing really to stop him from reappearing. In my opinion they just erased this specific timeline in the game from happening - but Solaris is time itself so....who know maybe thy are split in some other timeline and this Mephiles makes it back to our current timeline. And if Blaze really has Iblis flames which is heavily implied (being from another dimension - the dimension she sealed herself to in 06, the sol dimension) maaaybe they could do something with Blaze in the future - and Silver because he is a great character too. Maybe those ideas could be some plotlines for an upcoming Silver the Hedgehog game....one can dream, right?
    Anyways I am glad I am not the only one that really loves Mephiles...great video as always, thank you!

    • @Nov-5062
      @Nov-5062 5 лет назад +5

      It's just that the lack of his appearances in games kinda bothers me. It seems that Sega doesn't like him that much.

    • @lukeshaw7016
      @lukeshaw7016 5 лет назад +3

      He doesn't need iblis

    • @lpfan4491
      @lpfan4491 5 лет назад +2

      his powers were back in generations i guess

    • @Supershadowman2001
      @Supershadowman2001 5 лет назад +3

      Well lord Danny made a video on how he could return without iblis. Basically he would be made from the goo from the black comet and fused with Shadow’s DNA. I’d advise watching that because Lord Danny explained it much better

    • @SomaCruztheDemigodofBalance
      @SomaCruztheDemigodofBalance 5 лет назад +5

      The 06 version of Mephiles was prevented from being born, before the timelines split, so all versions of him and Iblis were erased simultaneously. However, the Ian Flynn idea has some merit, and perhaps he might even retain his memories of 06... 🤔🤔🤔

  • @R4TS_KZZK
    @R4TS_KZZK 2 года назад +7

    I am so happy that Mephiles is getting attention now, and even better, it's been revealed that he's getting into the mobile app "Sonic Forces: Speed Battle" later in October 2022.
    Also, another thing about Infinite and Mephiles is that Infinite wanted to end literally everything JUST because he was called weak, nothing else. Mephiles was part of Solaris and didn't care if he was insulted or not. No insults changed his character whatsoever, while Infinite changed into a whiny child with anger issues.

  • @cryostorm2178
    @cryostorm2178 5 лет назад +23

    Mephiles eye's are more Pink/Green than Red/Yellow.
    I don't get why some fans thought he was Infinite Just for the Eyes

  • @NoiriumIdk
    @NoiriumIdk 5 лет назад +68

    If Mephiles's game is Sonic 06 that's a sad legacy for such a good villain. 😂

    • @CompletelyChaotic
      @CompletelyChaotic 5 лет назад

      Do you like sonic adventure?

    • @NoiriumIdk
      @NoiriumIdk 5 лет назад

      @@CompletelyChaotic Yeah. 1 and 2 were both really good.

    • @Mariodash23
      @Mariodash23 5 лет назад

      Obi-Wan Kenobi See, this is why you were the only good character in the prequels.

  • @Paledraggon
    @Paledraggon 5 лет назад +32

    A lot of people talk crap about overly dark or edgy characters in games, but I like them both ironically and unironically if they are done right. Infinite had so much potential, but in the end he just gets overshadowed, which is exactly the opposite of what you want from a "big bad." Mephiles on the other hand is exactly what I want from a dark/evil character. Good villains have the ability to turn a good game into a great game if given the chance. To that end I'd love to see a return of Mephiles in some form or another after all their more recent failed villains.

    • @rumeysaongul4765
      @rumeysaongul4765 5 лет назад +8

      Pale Dragon
      Yes, but with the current plots, even if Mephiles returned, ge might not be the way we expected him to be. We need good writing in Sonic games before that.

  • @deadweight4887
    @deadweight4887 5 лет назад +11

    Mephiles true form legit scared me when I first played the game, defeating him at end of Shadow's story also felt like a good fight and the ending was epic. I felt terrified when he killed Sonic, I think what makes him special is that he's just pure evil, strong af and manipulative

  • @LjuboCupic1912
    @LjuboCupic1912 5 лет назад +27

    He’s probably my second favorite Sonic villain, after Neo Metal Sonic.

  • @steel6189
    @steel6189 5 лет назад +113

    I feel like they should've remade sonic 06 and just made everything better.

    • @PiggTheKidd
      @PiggTheKidd 5 лет назад +1

      Yeah and finish it

    • @dhamin8168
      @dhamin8168 5 лет назад +2

      It would be awesome if they just fixed the glitches and gameplay mechanics. Added better attacks and fixed the camera. Also remove that Elise scene... that was disturbing

    • @shadowlessday2573
      @shadowlessday2573 5 лет назад +6

      @@dhamin8168 Better tracks? Shiiit those song tracks in 06 were fucking good homie.

    • @dhamin8168
      @dhamin8168 5 лет назад +4

      Shadowless Day I think you misread. I said better attacks. The soundtrack was phenomenal.

    • @shadowlessday2573
      @shadowlessday2573 5 лет назад +1

      @@dhamin8168 lmao wth and yeah man those attacks do need fixing I agree lol my bad. The Music was so good that everytime I hear an accordion I think back to 06's accordion man playing away and me stopping just to listen

  • @speedstarregeneration2573
    @speedstarregeneration2573 5 лет назад +65

    Like say what you will about 06, Mephiles is a high of that game. He kept the story entertaining, was the only one to kill Sonic and pose an actual threat to reality itself, was actually outclassing Shadow and tried to manipulate Silver into killing him as a means to change the future (which was a lie obviously). So powerful even Eggman had to do truce with the gang to take him down. The fact that he popped up as a playable character in Runners showed they do in fact still acknowledge that he exists. Ian Flynn even believed that the Time Eater (Gens main threat) was what remained of Mephiles in the new timeline. He was more cunning, evil and ruthless than Zavok and Infinite could have been. He HAS to return at some point.

    • @speedstarregeneration2573
      @speedstarregeneration2573 5 лет назад +7

      @SMD sth91 somebody never played SA2, Sonic Heroes or Shadow The Hedgehog then. This wasnt his first forced truce with the gang.

    • @speedstarregeneration2573
      @speedstarregeneration2573 5 лет назад +5

      @SMD sth91 who said anything about the pure evil AU Robotnik from that cartoon? I was talking about the Dr. Ivo 'Eggman' Robotnik from the actual games like the canon version of the guy. Anything your aforementioned Robotnik is doing is a different scenario than the Dr. Eggman of the games. Theres a thing called Alternative Universes. Which should be there to differenciate in this case the Eggy from the games from the Eggy from the cartoon and comics. They. Are Not. The Same. Person. They may share certain aspects, but they arent alike. At least not 1:1.

    • @speedstarregeneration2573
      @speedstarregeneration2573 5 лет назад +3

      @SMD sth91 another bunch of AUs not canon to the main games. Pretty sure the promo comic for Sonic 1 is irrelevant nowadays.

    • @speedstarregeneration2573
      @speedstarregeneration2573 5 лет назад +1

      @SMD sth91 bruh your looking too deep into the stuff. He is a human. The only important one at that.

    • @SomaCruztheDemigodofBalance
      @SomaCruztheDemigodofBalance 5 лет назад +6

      In the games, Eggman has admitted to only caring about the people's existence, because he can't rule an empty planet. In 06, his own life was on the line, so he helped the heroes in order to survive. If there's one thing he can be relied on to keep in mind, it's self-preservation!

  • @Torusu_dame
    @Torusu_dame 5 лет назад +16

    Mephiles is the best villain in Sonic's franchise

  • @PotatoPatatoVonSpudsworth
    @PotatoPatatoVonSpudsworth 5 лет назад +11

    One of Sonic Team's biggest problems is confusing "dark and intimidating" with "edgy." Its a very, _very_ important line you mustn't cross, but they've shown time and time again that they really aren't know where that line _is._
    From a villain design perspective, consider someone like Darth Vader as you epitome of "dark and intimidating." There's a reason that character works so well, and there's a reason you'd never consider the guy "edgy."

  • @daneyal7162
    @daneyal7162 5 лет назад +36

    Of course we want him back! It's DAN GREEN!

  • @small_insomniac
    @small_insomniac 5 лет назад +79

    I think SEGA is just embarassed over Sonic 06 and want to forget it ever happened.

    • @bradunderachiever158
      @bradunderachiever158 5 лет назад +5

      Ima Space Person I agree

    • @rogankane6901
      @rogankane6901 5 лет назад +5

      Remake the Darned game Sega! Fix all the goddarned Glitches and the loading screens!

    • @chaosfountain9550
      @chaosfountain9550 5 лет назад +1

      No one would want to play the fixed version though still.

    • @topcoppelion6626
      @topcoppelion6626 4 года назад +2

      Considering they chucked the best level from that game into Sonic Generations i believe they still hold some value to it.

  • @deathwingthedestroyer3632
    @deathwingthedestroyer3632 5 лет назад +65

    The Edge Gods of SEGA
    Shadow
    Infinite
    Mephiles

    • @_Tzer
      @_Tzer 4 года назад +2

      puyo puyo

    • @rurukki1594
      @rurukki1594 4 года назад +1

      @Medal Cat oh wow i didnt knew ;-;

  • @OoXLR8oO
    @OoXLR8oO 5 лет назад +11

    Infinite: Kylo Ren
    Mephiles: Darth Vader

    • @messofabeing9392
      @messofabeing9392 4 года назад +1

      Didn’t Vader turn good tho? I didn’t watch the main trilogy, I don’t know...
      I think he’s closer to Palpatine than Vader.

    • @topcoppelion6626
      @topcoppelion6626 4 года назад +2

      Infinite: Kylo Ren
      Mephiles: Darth Sidious
      Shadow: Darth Vader

    • @UnovaKing48.
      @UnovaKing48. 4 года назад +1

      @@topcoppelion6626 True , then Eggman is Darth Tyranus,
      Grand Moff Wilhuff Tarkin,
      And Supreme Leader and Allegiant General Enric Pryde

  • @enzoqueijao
    @enzoqueijao 5 лет назад +4

    You merely adopted the darkness. I was born into it, molded by it.

  • @vareos9874
    @vareos9874 5 лет назад +240

    as garbage as sonic 06 is gameplay/bug wise i still think the story is really good. sure the whole elise story is kinda cringey but the rest was fantastic. and well much better than any story the sonic series has seen since then

    • @demoriginal
      @demoriginal 5 лет назад +1

      Vareos Potshoterzz yh

    • @sensei1669
      @sensei1669 4 года назад +13

      Yeah I agree. If they were to remake it I’d say
      •Inprove gameplay and graphics(Obviously)
      •Remove the whole human hedgehog thing, that was wack.

    • @Unethical.Dodgson
      @Unethical.Dodgson 4 года назад

      Games with better stories since:
      Colours. Secret rings. Lost world. Boom. Generations.
      You might not like them as much but they are at least way more coherent

    • @sebastianbenavidesmorales2274
      @sebastianbenavidesmorales2274 4 года назад +9

      @@Unethical.Dodgson unleashed, secret rings, and maybe black knight have good stories, everything else are just lame comedy plots with some serious moments here and there, specially lost world which is the laziest, ever since 06 they are just afraid to do an ambitious plot or giving the spotlight to any other character but sonic and eggman

    • @viktoryc
      @viktoryc 4 года назад

      All they have to do to the story is either add a bf for elise, to make saving elise more important or just get rid of the romance

  • @Youeverthinkthat
    @Youeverthinkthat Год назад +2

    I love mephiles,
    When I first got back into the sonic fandom his design was so captivating and I loved it.

  • @doctorrussia
    @doctorrussia 5 лет назад +10

    He's the best because he's an alpha gamer

    • @lorddanny2988
      @lorddanny2988  5 лет назад +5

      Too bad he gets friendzoned so frequently.

  • @MoostachedSaiyanPrince
    @MoostachedSaiyanPrince 5 лет назад +160

    Infinite is a tryhard edgelord, whereas Mephiles came across as someone you couldn't trust at first, and someone you should genuinely fear by the end. He wasn't some emo wannabe villain monologuing about hopelessness and fear, he was a manipulator who's calm and measured mannerisms made him unnerving and even somewhat frightening. And the level of power he obtained by the end of the game made him the single strongest entity that Sonic and his friends ever had to face. Not to mention that in a way, he had succeeded in a way that no other villain has. Sure, Infinite beat Sonic, but he didn't kill him and was so obsessed with making other people feel hopeless that he himself allowed the person who would end up being instrumental in beating him to live and provide the motivation to do so, not to mention sparing Sonic's life like a damn fool. Too bad Sonic 06 was one of the worst Sonic games, because it had the best Sonic Villain.

    • @NotaPizzaGRL
      @NotaPizzaGRL 5 лет назад +13

      It's amazing how time changes because back then Mephiles was the edgelord villain. Honestly just make another Sonic game with some time and care put into it first. Sonic Mania was a good start but let's see something like that for 3D.

    • @algalax2
      @algalax2 4 года назад +3

      Moostached Saiyan Prince IMO Merlina was the best villain.

    • @-hello6177
      @-hello6177 4 года назад +1

      @@NotaPizzaGRL Honestly, 06 is extremely underrated imo, I didn't see any bugs while playing, and the shit people say they find is normally in places you'd never go into the game, and you need to fucking keep hitting a wall until you can clip it (gamegrumps wall clipping being used as a reason to say the game is bad boils my blood to unreasonable amounts, what the actual fuck, do people really need to make that many stretches to call the game bad, sonic kisses a human that's already enough), very few of the complaints are things you'd normally find throughout the whole game, Mephiles being edgelord probably being one of the stretches people made.
      Also silver's battle takes the same amount of time to beat as the first boss, why everyone keeps calling it unbalanced

    • @francisharkins
      @francisharkins 4 года назад +1

      @@-hello6177 Depends on what happened in Silver battles. Really only hated 4 things from 06 personally.
      1. Sonic x Elise ship in game... Just... no... gross and weird. Also they over sexualized the heck out of Elise. That outfit is just so very inappropriate and the storyline focused too much on shipping towards the end.
      2. Elise levels... the controls became very demanding and hard to handle in Elise levels turning was very wide so you were likely to hit a wall or obstacle often, and the "shield" was difficult to use as it required perfect timing, and was almost impossible to deal with annoying enemies.
      3. Boss battles in the Sonic Storylines. Sonic bosses mainly cause the mechanics and controls could be inconsistent at times or the arenas are just badly designed... like the first Silver Boss fight for example. So many objects that just get in the way making it hard to get around or away and the arena is so small on top of being cluttered that getting caught by Silver means you will likely get trapped on the walls of the arena and spam killed, mainly thanks to Sega slapping a weird knockdown animation for being hit rather than I-Frames like in every other Sonic game.
      4. Silver level puzzles and general navigation in the game. Personally I hated Silver's levels because the game never helped you figure out puzzles or anything outside of the basics of using Silver. Then the general navigation system of the game was annoying when you had to go somewhere in the overworld but given zero context or clues about where or how to go there. (Which is what the Grumps ran into first. But in some fairness to the game this is Arin "doesn't pay attention" Hanson who doesn't ever do tutorials or just clicks through everything. Resorting to using a guide in games you shouldn't need them like Wind Waker and more recently Phoenix Wright. Grumps are not really the best to go too for honest gameplay just more laughs and satire.) But the whole game was just too open with the overworld and never helped the player out when they needed it.
      Its just all those things happening in a short time that ruin it and Sonic 06 is just not fun to play until you get to shadow levels or late game Sonic ones. Silver is only fun for the first mission then they throw him into environments and puzzles thag are just not suited or hard to use him in.

    • @-hello6177
      @-hello6177 4 года назад

      @@francisharkins I can confidently say that I'm shit at puzzles, and even more so about me from three years ago, so me from when I played sonic 06, yeah if he can do it and yall having problems then you just dumb
      (agree 100% on elise levels, very slow, demanding I don't remember really)

  • @aortaplatinum
    @aortaplatinum 5 лет назад +62

    "Slightly flawed story"
    Bruh
    He totally could have just stabbed Elise, making her involuntarily cry.
    There was no reason at all to set up Silver to kill Sonic, Mephiles proved he could do that no problem.

    • @DaReelSlimN80
      @DaReelSlimN80 5 лет назад +10

      I'm pretty sure only emotional tears work, but even then he could've just went forward in time and killed sonic after she got attached to him or just reunite with Iblis in the future, or he could've just killed Elise

    • @aortaplatinum
      @aortaplatinum 5 лет назад +2

      @@DaReelSlimN80 oh fuck yeah I didn't even think about that last one, reuniting in the future. Since Solaris IS time and space, it wouldn't really matter where or when they fused into one again. By not restricting Mephiles' powers, the writers made him TOO competent a villain. He even could have gone back right after the failed experiment that separated them and joined back right there.

    • @TheKing-uh7zn
      @TheKing-uh7zn 5 лет назад +1

      I believe it was explained that Iblis had evolved to not be able to refuse with Mephiles.
      Now why couldn't he do it the moment Iblis escapes in the future? Why couldn't he refuse with Iblis by going back before Iblis was sealed? Well i think that has to do with Time Shenanigans. He was already there. So what would've happened to himself if he fused with Iblis and became Solaris infront of his past self? What about the moment Iblis escapes in the future? Perhaps Mephiles and Iblis have to be from the same time in order to fuse with eachother. We don't really know. And trust me. They're never gonna explain it

    • @WingItMan217
      @WingItMan217 5 лет назад +7

      There’s a reason the story was erased from existence

    • @wonderfulrose477
      @wonderfulrose477 5 лет назад +3

      N8THEGR8 Whenever time travel is involved there will ALWAYS be plot holes. You just have to use suspension of disbelief and not think about it too much.

  • @rem_z3r0
    @rem_z3r0 5 лет назад +14

    Trying to watch this vid while not refering back to the name Mephiles recieved in the Sonic Fandub was a challenge 😂

  • @starlightrose3237
    @starlightrose3237 5 лет назад +3

    They don't treat you like a friend, they treat you like an *item*

  • @senorcarlito-6119
    @senorcarlito-6119 5 лет назад +4

    Mephiles was ironically the light in sonic 06

  • @jubusch
    @jubusch 5 лет назад +5

    If that damm princes didn’t exist, sonic 06’s plot would be perfect

  • @CoffeeholicAlien
    @CoffeeholicAlien 5 лет назад +11

    His name is Memphis Tennessee and you better respect his name.

  • @tophatproductions8243
    @tophatproductions8243 2 года назад +6

    I think instead of zavok, mephiles should have been one of infinite's illusions

    • @Nov-5062
      @Nov-5062 2 года назад +1

      Yeah no one likes Zavok