Soviet Cold War Tanker vs Russian Modern Tanker loadout (T-72 Version)
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So there is another armor system called 6B15 cowboy for tankers, it was introduced before Ratnik-3K was, 6b15 was the first armored protection complex that was widely issued to tankers even before Ratnik. It came a few years prior!
Sergei Guyduk sent me
Hi Oxide, on 6:35 is that a yugo m70ab2?
lol thinking the T-14 is gona replace the T-72 is not gonna happen. that is to mean if the 100 T-14s, T-15s, and so forth are replacing the T-72 in crew jobs. But even that is a stretch. Russia will need to make up for 2284 worth of tank crews.
Russia also operates 369 T-90A, 120 Т-90 and 30 Т-90М tanks. All existing T-90 variants will be modernised to T-90M by 2020-2025 though.
The T-80 has 550 in active service and 3,000 in storage in 2016.
So, retiring the T-72 and refitting to T-80s is very plausible.
level 3 armor can't stop the mosin man
in russian b is v than 6b15 you should read 6v15
Soviet tankers are given PM, AKS-74U, tank and Mustache
Don’t worry about protective gear, that mustache could kill a mujahadeen in an instant
Theyre gonna counter it with theyre own one
@@hiddenmustache6422 Nah they shave of the mustache, right?
@@ricardo3760 Muslim here. Yup,those butthurt hippies shave off their moustaches and keep the beard only.
@@_lordtachanka_2314 You know the reason for that?
@@ricardo3760 according to Islam, it is good to keep a shaved moustache. But it is completely your choice whether or not you want to shave it. But for some reason they believe that a shaved moustache is compulsory,and they hand out punishments to the local populace for keeping an unshaven moustache in places like Afghanistan or the middle east,where terrorism still runs rampant.
"Who will save the world?"
Russian peoples may be if vodka will be available
So im not the only one that thinks one of them looks like the Btr commander , also in case somebody wants to know his name is Sergei Gayduk
Putin
Mustache Guy hahaah
*IT'S NOT TOO LATE.*
Я чуть со стула не упал когда Цоя услышал!) Атмосферно, молодцы!
Сколько можно слушать этот депресняк????? за*бло это кино
Да не говори ,я щас сам при обалдел (матом) !!!
@@Vadoomed рассуждаешь как школяр, не включай Цоя и будут улыбки и радость, что посоветуешь веселящеё ? Цой делал музыку эпохи пост-панка, вдохновение the cure, это такой жанр в принципе
@@Vadoomed Это блять ШЕДЕВР на все времена! Никто не заставляет тебя это слушать!
@@GunsNClothes видосы оксида ?
I don't have claustrophobia, but i gotta admit that seeing him try to squeeze through the driver's emergency hatch made me nervous lol
Unless you're a contortionist/short/skinny it's a pretty futile affair under real time pressure - you'll get cooked halfway.
Much better chances jumping out of the hatch..
@@OK-1K1 the drivers hatch could be blocked so you're fucked either way
@@nully3n in that case i'd put a good old 9mm pill in my skull tbh, much less pain
i almost started sweating just thinking about how much he would be sweating after all that
I'm a faily overweight guy, 1,85mt tall and all, but I've always managed to squeeze in tight places and be elastic enought, and almost never felt claustrophobia catching on me. But seeing this guy trying to exit the tank gave me short-breath and felt a sense of panic growing inside me.
Out of Commission, become a pillbox. Out of ammo, become a bunker. Out of time, become heroes.
The beast!!!
Oh nice reference
I knew it as:
We are tankers
If the tracks get destroyed, we are bunker
If the gun gets destroyed, we are cover
If the armour gets destroyed, we are heros
Why can't we go home in a f****** helicopter!
@@davideb.4290 Death before dismount
Oxide is soviet 5'7 manlet confirmed
But mans be walking aesthetic
О, поставил лайк за "Кино" на фоне. Довольно необычно слышать эту группу в англоязычном видео)
The soviet tanker "style" can't be beaten.
and it is... *Style.*
Very important style
Yes it can
For me many of the Soviet styles can't be beaten
@Hans Blitzkrieg that's just part of the soviet swag
Спасибо за "Кино" на фоне!
Хэло, май рашин фрэнд
@@byby8445 о да вы из Англии!)
Привет из Казахстана!
Ah, I knew it was Tsoi singing!!
Это было очень классно. Цой жив!
Oh my, how it’s aged
For those who are wondering....
These are the Kino song in the video:
1. дальше действовать будем мы
2. нам с тобой
3. Песня без слов
4. спокойная ночь
5. невесёлая песня
P.S.: Sry if any1 made a list about the songs already, I checked the comments and didn't see any... :(
thanks bro, time to listen to some Кино.
Thank you
Az én fiam ;)
Damn Oxide, you tank gunner looks like a boss. Dude looks almost like the commander from Afghan: the Soviet experiencs.
The man the myth the legend Sergey Gayduk.
I really try my best to not only be a bitter GWOT Vet but also a Soviet Afghan Vet. Both physically and mentally. But thanks for the compliment.
Now i know why was this guy so familiar :)
Oh, you know they knew and were going for that look.
KINO was definitely the right choice of music.
As a kid who grew up in late Soviet Union I immediately appreciated your choice of music. A+ for Viktor Tsoy.
Huge like for the soundtrack by "Kino". That is so Afghan war accurate. We owned Mujahedeens when and where we wanted. And no, we did not run, we withdrew in organized manner under West world pressure so they can have their Afghan war too. And I do not say that we are better or you are better. I wish we were never were there. Politicians start wars, not regular people. So lets make friendships, trade and exchange ideas and cultures - not hate, making enemies and wars. Lets keep our politicians in check so our kids can play together. Peace to all of you.
Amen - Brothers and I did a total of 5 tours in Vietnam among us -- One of my best friends years later was a NVA officer at the same time I was there -- I trust combat vets - not politicians
@@sue08401 well, at least one of the brains woke up ...
And if pondering and the next step ....?)))
5:20 the yugolsav copy of the t72 the m84 had an upper hand in this as it had a system to force the gun away from the hatch regardless of the situation so that driver could escape
I thought some of the later models of T72 also had that?
didnt have the cope cage researched
Thanks for the video.
Two years I was a T-80 tank commander at training facility, and unfortunately, haven't seen any of those fancy Ratnik kits in use as haven't seen an intercom devices suited for those. As a tall guy, I had a difficulty using uniform with lots of straps, MOLLE's etc, as you have a lot of stuff around you that keeps sticking and tearing shit off of your jacket and, especially, pants. T-72 has quite comfortable hatch design and dimensions, so I can imagine anyone getting in and out in 8-10 seconds, on the other hand T-80's hatches are 1/3'rd smaller, so I, for example, had difficulties getting in and out, especially with weapons (ammo box) and gasmask bag on you. T-90 gunner hatch is even smaller, so the same thing about that. My height also made me feel like a cocktail shrimp inside a can, those headphones, the summer version, was making corns all around your head and neck, winter version was the only one comfortable, but raised possibility of heatstroke. I couldn't imagine myself in a helmet for same reasons, plus you won't need a ballistic helmet when sitting directly on ammunition with your ass, just sayin'. :)
The T-Pose scene was appreciated.
whad does it mean?
@@pripjatyfighter3786 Default pose for humanoid assets in cg/video games.
@@Meph648 but i think they dont do because of the video games...
@@pripjatyfighter3786 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
damn these kino songs just add another level to the video
Theres just something so aesthetically pleasing about tankers, especially soviet tankers.
With a mustache
Yes
Probably the only channel I know that shows Russia/Soviet stuff in an interesting way
Oh hey, that tank has the black triangle from the Polish Armed Forces.
@@deanvelobaron9686 Да, ты можешь www.moto-armia.pl/produkt/czolg-t55-ams-merida-stan-kolekcjonerski/
Because it is Polish T-72M (M1)
Oxide, you seriously inspire me to do research about guns and other cool shit, plus the great production quality, the music, the guns... You are easily one of my favourite channels.
I could not have imagined a few years ago that a war thunder boy could make such great content in the future. ❤️
He went from operating them virtually to actually physically working with one irl, very nice
За Цоя лайк!!! Особенно когда несётся Т-72 под песню "Дальше действовать будем мы"!
С динамической броней на верхнем броне листе, и башне, наш Т-72Б3 выглядит вообще прекрасно
Ну только вот это ущербный Т-72М)
The Mi-8 went down long ago over the hills, no smoke rises
I am down to my last magazine,
My friends are long gone
I do not know if I will see my mother again
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Afgan Afgan Afgan
Afgan Afganistan
That's not nearly an exact translation.
@@honzabalak3462 mate, its fucking nothing. It has a resemblance to the song "afghan" but nothing more than that.
thanks for letting me help find ww2 footage and pictures
Группа "Кино" на фоне - это очень круто!
7:36 Russian tanker crews in 2076 after scoring a confirmed kill
Your voice is soft like an elf, but your body is tough as a dwarf
Haha, he does have a Dwarf body type.
made me think of the bloodhound gang lyric. "Life's short and hard like a body building elf."
Dwelf
With that body he can tank a 120mm
in soviet 80's theme = KINO, Victor Choi
Виктор Цой - [Victor Tsoi]
@@cka4ok51rus8 thank you for your assist! Im korean, and our name '최' is 'Choi' in english. But Victor is russian. and russian speaking 'Tsoi' is correct.
He's half Russian and half Korean right?
I sometimes forget.
@@changhee95 Yes, his grandfather was from North Korea
группа крови на рукаве.
Спасибо автору за ролик, особенно очень понравился музыкальный ряд! Сразу вспомнил молодость 😊Спасибо!
The music choice is excellent.
Fire protection for the crew
Autoloader:,
Your S u r e
In the Leopard-2 everything is the same, only there is no automatic loader.
Judging by all the footage in Ukraine the Russians appear to have largely failed in equiping their tankers with the new gear.
they have quite a mix of old soviet equipment and modern ratnik
@@alikhidzam3749 most of the new stuff is being sold by their COs
Well like said here spaces are crammed. Soldiers might opt to leave/ditch armour for comfort. Ive seen the helmet though many times in combat footage.
The scene where you crawled from the driver's seat to the turret gave me claustrophobia through the monitor, god damn that looks cramped!
Man, what an outstanding quality. You have covered the topic better than any Russian youtuber, thanks a lot)
The wait is finally over
Also kino makes everything better
"Who, baby whooo would save the woorld"
"I'm too young to die"
You even added Kino to the background music. Nice touch, товарищ.
Спасибо за В. Цоя! От души братка!
За Цоя отдельный лайк!
This is probably your best video yet Oxide. Very nicely done bro please keep it up.
Someone should edit the tank footage to play with _Who Will Save The World_ by Modern Talking.
I always love it when I click on an Oxide video and immediately hear my favorite kino song.
I really loved both the loadouts.
The aviator glasses made then even better.
I came here for the mustaches and was not disappointed
Afgan Afgan Afgan
Afgan Afganistan
Kruzhit chernyy tyul'pan
Nad beregom reki
Song Name: Swallowing Dust
gruupa krovi intensifies
Муцураев Intensifies
@@lebowski9140 Cute green eyes, which you'll probably never see again, for you will lay couple feet under the Chechen rocks, in a mass grave, while she'll probably move on after a couple of months, or even, weeks. Ah...The mentality of a warrior, opposed to a bride of war mentality. I kri evri tiem.
...vsya nadiozhdya adin magazhin
prosto tak ne vasmyote skatiiiiiiiii
Afgan...afgan afgan
...
He ended his life with a grenade.
песни группы "Кино" - зачёт ;)
Very interesting video, the Kino soundtrack was a great addition!
Dude your channel is the best nobody else covers russian gear quite like you. Keep it up man I love it
epic limb choke device? sign me up.
And glad I could help with confirming the AKS-74 as the main rifle, rather than the AKS-74U as a lot of people think.
@8:24 looks like the most Russian Tank Crewman ever
I try to do my part.
I'm loving the informative content, feels like im learning new stuff along with some truly blessed footage behind it
How to protect T-72 tankers :
call a friendly Mi-24 !
Thanks for video Oxide .
Kino makes this nostalgia even more beautiful . I wish i could give more likes .
"And T-72 being sole replaced by rumory future vehicles, like Armada"
T-80 and T-90A: Am I a joke to you?
T-80BVM and T-90M. T-90A are obsolete.
@@exodus1621 and T-90 is even more obsolete. But we still have museum pieces T-72M1 made from 87-93 :P, still good enough considering were occupied by the enemy since 1998 just like Ukraine since 2014. T-90A is not obsolete, just not the modern standard, its 2005 standard with much needed newer stronger gun on top of standard welded turret. One could think obsolete in terms of protection or firepower. Most folks forgot that the enemy is in control of media and are thus misled into russophobia, that Russians bad, inferior, guilty of everything. One doesnt need to look far to see excesses of western degeneracy and them trying to impose it on everyone.
As for BVM? tank base armor seems to me like steel-textolite mix, which is fine but obsolete. Unless the modern ERA works with old armor array in unforseen ways :P
Did it at least get 2A46M-4 as gun replacement? I havent seen anything of the sort.But I guess guns are costly to give to give to an outdated unit - however, as long as gun is dangerous, so was a T-34 85 - not due to its armor - sure among many other upgrades. Non-stop upgrading of everything can an effect on the economy, while in the end you have nukes to make trigger happy west think twice..
I found this while searching for Tank tactics, and I have to say, it's informative and cool to see such content. Keep up the good work!
Awesome vid man. Keep it up. Looking forward to tank ballistic tests
I was drafted in 2017 and in 2018 my entire tank batallion was issued ratnik gear and we were so happy)))
How's Ukraine 🤣
@@dominator167able as much as I'm against fighting my neighbors I really hate Westerns, especially Brits suddenly needing all russians to comment on a war that many russians have nothing to do with or against. I didn't see anyone pestering Brits and Americans and needing them to comment on killing a million people in Iraq...
@@MrRusskie99 good luck, hopefully the war ends soon.
@@dominator167able it isn’t anything like CNN shows you. Most of the time, you’re just sitting somewhere underneath a tree, cleaning your equipment while awaiting orders. It isn’t nonstop shooting.
"Kino" music? nice))) my russian smile)
I can't get tired of your videos, specially the newest ones with all the educational information about load outs.
Been waiting so long for this video, but it was worth the wait. Excellent work on it.
That's a pretty neat comparison between Soviet and Russian tanker kit. It's interesting they thought an unsupported upper chest pocket would be a good place for a makarov.
It's actually designed specifically for the Mak daddy in shape and size.... but with the pistol fully holstered within it. It sucks to try and get it out.
@@HKB5190 Yea, but is it supported or rigid in any way? It just seems like doing anything other than sitting in a tank would just be unwieldy. I don't know, maybe I'm trying to apply logic to Soviet gear development.
@@blrdgg6571 literally just a pocket with a liner shaped like the pistol. It actually holds it pretty comfortably. Drawing it sucks.
Well i dont think they had in mind you pulling it out Clint Eastwood style : D
Reminds me of the bmp driver from "afghan: the soviet experience"
YO OX MY BOY HIT ME UP WITH THAT CAT TOURNIQUET!!!
It was actually a BTR 80 but yeah. Part of why that uniform is so iconic is because of that moustache guy.
Oh boy was this worth the wait, awesome video, just like the music and the moustaches!
This is a video worth watching especially from the historical side and how you can learn something within 10 mins, awesome work, keep it up brate!
oh my god, nevesolaya pesnya actually fits really well with like the credits for a russian war documentary
7:36 *asserting dominance*
Didn't disappoint. Great research with eye candy to boot. I can only imagine what's in store next. Keep up the great work my dude.
Dude your channel has quickly become my favorite. Keep up the hard work it’d very much appreciated.
Hey man love your content. Guy in old gear looks exactly like my taknk commander when I was serving in army. 5:23 100% you are correct height is ideal tanker. But escape hatch maybe easier for russians because most of us especially tankers are very skinny.
"Who, baby, who will save the world?"
That outro is so cool. I am a big fan of all your camera work. Keep up the good work.
Loved the music selection, quality content mate, loved the channel, awesome stache too. Keep up the good work
The T-72 being replaced by the T-14 is sick joke in hindsight. The actual replacement of the T-72 is the T-64.
Т-90?
Yo get us in on them free tourniquets, love all your projects fam.
Great vid. Looking forward to the next ballistics test
cool video man, I really appreciate your hard work and enjoy your videos!
The mustaches in this are on point.
I can't properly see whether are you wearing the their back then very popular ''Sapogi'' black leather jackboots on the Soviet version (which were literally always worn by the Soviet tankers, together with all other Soviet Armed Forces personnel). Anyway, I'm pointing that out because it's also one of the main main and biggest differences between Cold War era Soviet and modern Russian tankers, since they're nowadays, of course, using the standard all-out laces combat boots.
Secondly, one of the crucial differences also being the fact that this Soviet tanker suit (officially designated ''TK'' - ''Tankoviy Kostyum'', literally; ''Tanker's Costume'') was actually not a uniform like today's version and the ''Ratnik'' gear, but simply a combat/working suit, intended to be just worn above the then standard-issue M-69 green cotton service uniform. Hence the name ''kostyum'' in the official designation (exactly like on the Soviet infantryman's KZS, as an example), which marked the two-piece suit intended to be worn above the regular uniform. The other used name ''kombinezon'' (''coverall'', as used in the KLMK) was a term for one-piece suit, also intended to be worn above the then regular M-69 uniform.
Also, by the end of '80s, the khaki version was actually adopted by all Soviet tankers in general, not just by the ones involved in Afghan-war (the black version was officially discontinued by Soviet defence ministry back in '83, but was still very common up until '87/'88 at least, since it took a good time to replenish them for such a huge army as the Soviet was).
Here are two photos of Soviet tankers from their elite 4th Guards-motorized tank division ''Tamanskaja'' (the first one is from the failed Coup d'etat in August of '91 in Moscow's Red square):
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However, the largest misconception that you've made in this video in my opinion is that fact that you've omissed that modern Russian tankers today are officially still using the modified version of these originally Soviet suits, which was actually returned to usage through Army's modernization program beginning as of 2017, which was pursued under policy of the current Defence minister Sergey Shoygu as well as Chieff of staff general Valeriy Gerasimov. One of results being the Soviet tankers suits, which are nowadays returned to usage after more than twenty year of disuse, since they were officially discontinued from production and usage and replaced with then standard TCKO and VSR infantryman's camouflage patterns in '93, later also ''Flora'' pattern, as of '98.
However, the modern Russian version of this suit is now featured in dark-blue pattern (at first glace very similar to the original Soviet black version you're wearing here, which is why they are often incorrectly referred to as being ''black''). Also, it doesn't feature the pants-integrated belt anymore and the distinctive yellow chest tank patch featured on a dark rhomboid background nowadays does not portray the styllized T-62 like the the one you're wearing here/the Soviet one, but the T-90A tank instead.
Moreover, that largest differences being the fact that suit today finally provides full fireproof (as it is covered with additional nylon layers above the usual polycarbonate reinforced cotton), something that Soviet ones never had. And most importantly, the newest Russian version now even features an anti-infrared layers, which severely lowest of possibility of spotting its weared via thermal camera. Exactly like the ''Ratnik'' gear, it's also suit not paired with the outdated ''Sapogi'' jackboots of course, but with modern, all-out laces boots.
The ''Ratnik'' tanker's gear which you're also featuring in the video (the EMR digital-camo pattern uniform, 6B48 headset and the vest) is actually in usage restricted exclusively for T-14 Armata tank and T-15 Kurganjec infantry combat vehicle, while the standard tankers of their currently used/III generation tanks (the T-72B/B3/B3M, T-90A/M and T-80BV/U/BVM) as well as ICV's/IFV's (BMP-2 & 3) are exclusively using the newest and above mentioned version of the originally Soviet two-piece suits. The main reason being the fact that you've yourself demostrated in the video - the ''Ratnik'' gear along its 6B48 vest and particularly the sturdy helmet is literally a nightmare for relatively cramped space of Soviet-era MBT's - especially for quick exiting/bailing out. And that's exactly why the ''Ratnik'' gear is used only in their next/IV generation combat vehicles - the T-14/15.
Here's a photo which proves this (modern Russian tanker appearances lined-up, from left to right are: T-72/80/90/BMP-2/3 crewman in summer and winter suits and T-14/15 crewman in ''Ratnik'' gear):
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And last but not least, the Soviet tankers actually never officially used the AKS-74, but exclusively the AKS-74U (I proved and explained that to the one chap in the comments below, so I won't go repeating now). Anyway, the AKS-74/74M was actually adopted by tankers yet after the fall of the USSR (during '90s) and that was simply because the 74U was discontinued from production back in '93.
Despite some of the minor misconceptions, I'm still giving it a BIG like and thanking you for this video, since someone has finally tought about making something dedicated to the undeservedly forgotten Soviet cold war era and modern Russian tankers, instead of just one-and the same worn-out stories about WWII Red Army ones. So, like and big respect! :)
This is a lot of comment. But there are some issues I take with it. My Soviet tanker firstly did wear sapogi boots. They are very uncomfortable and for you not to notice is very insulting to his sacrifice :D. A lot of more detailed information like other versions of the tanker uniform between 1960s to Modern is skipped because I would be making an hour long video if I mentioned TSSKO, flora, various versions.
Anyway lets get to some of the issues with this comment:
Some IFV and legacy tanker crews have been issued 6B48. Not solely T-14 and 15 series crew. It is not exclusive as you've stated. There are many pictures on the internet of BMP and T90 crew being issued 6b48.
I know that there are differences between the Soviet black and the modern Russian "Black" suit. You could've also mentioned differences from WW2 suits to Cold war. Because I said, "since their infancy Soviet and Russian tankers have distinguished themselves with their black uniforms." The only thing that I have confirmed in that statement is that the uniforms are black. That is a generalization and not a misconception. I also did mention that the Soviets made a fireproof suit, it was to imply that the regular suit wasn't fireproof.
About the AKS-74 use, Soviet tankers exclusively used this firearm in the first half of the Soviet Afgan war. Officially or not it was the case. I took a look at your argument and you're not showing pictures of tankers that were actually in the Soviet Afgan war... just drawn images and 90s era pictures. You should've done better research.
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Anyway, glad you liked the video and hope you learned something new!
Yes, I've never got a chance to wear those boots I must admit, but I've still heard from many various sources that they're really uncomfortable to wear, although I never intent to take all of the ''un/comfortabilty rumors'' seriously until I've try that specific item myself. Because, in many various occassions I've heard or read many those stories about ''comforability issues'' of some specific subjects, but in the end for me personally some of them ended just fine when I tried to wear or use them. After all, I think we'll agree that it would be really hard to believe that almost all Soviet Armed Forces personnel wore exclusively the Sapogi for almost the entire Cold War period (except certain Air Force branches, like jet pilots and paratroopers) if they were really that uncomfortable. Anyway, I still think you should have included them, since I believe you would still survive wearing them for those humble few minutes for the video. ;)
About the ''Ratnik'' gear - well, I personally still absolutely never saw any photos nor videos showing T-72/80/90 and less inedded BMP-2/3 crewmen wearing that outfit, only T-14/15 as I've stated and also 2S19 Msta and 2S30 Koalicija, I forgot to mention those SPG's. I'm daily following the official page of the Russian Defence Ministry on FB, it's called the ''Minoboroniy Rossiyi'' (''Минобороны России'') which actively shares various photo albums of almost every major training excersise or parade of all branches of the Russian Armed Forces. To this day, I've never saw ''Ratnik''-issued gear tankers manning anything else except T-14/15 and SPG's, as I've said and vice-versa. And exactly due to that I've logically condluded that the one serves for this and the other one for that. And as I've also stated, there's a purely logical reason for this, which you've nicely demonstrated in the video yourself. Moreover, if all of the tankers can be issued with the ''Ratnik'' gear (no matter what CV they belong), then why was the current (dark-blue) version of the Soviet-era TK introduced again and for what then it serves and exists? You didn't provide me explanation for that, but it surely can't be the case that today's Russian tankers can simply pick between the two options (''Ratnik'' or TK). I don't see any sense nor logic in that. However, If you still claim that currently used Soviet-era/III generation MBT's ones can use ''Ratnik'', then simply provide me few photos like You said You saw and I'll instantly admit that I was wrong, don't worry. However, until I see some photos or a video at least, I'll stick to the claim that ''Ratnik'' gear is issued only to T-14/15 and SPG crewman, as I've said.
About that newest/current Russian version of the Soviet tanker's suits - well, I think you've maybe gotten me wrong there. I never want to say that You should've included the timeline of all the Soviet tankers - the Red Army ones which you're mentioning would then turn out as ''surplus'' here, because they actually never wore these two-piece suits like the Yours in the video, but one piece actually, which is why their version was officially designated as ''kombinezon'' (''coverall'') instead of ''kostyum'' (''costume''). However, due to both being completely black and both having integrated belt, it's very easy to mix'em up - only a few specific details are giveaways, like the little yellow tank patch which was introduced yet with that Cold war's two-piece suits (although Red Army tankers could be often seen wearing khaki, grey and even blue coveralls, but that was exclusively an improvised/unofficial alternative due to serious shortage and lack of propper/black cotton for such huge army, which then also experineced probably the largest mobilisation in the history of mankind). Anyway, I just wanted to point out that the refurbished version of these originally Soviet tanker suits is returned to official and daily usage for almost all of the current Russian tankers as of 2017 and that so it should be necessairly described (or mentioned at least). Because, judging by the video of Yours, it now sounds and looks like that the modern Russian tankers are issued exclusively with the ''Ratnik'' gear and nothing else, which is simply not true and what can make some false conclusions, that's all.
And for the finals, about the AKS-74U case - but of course that I didn't provide photos from the Afghan war (after all, I described that the origins of the photos I provided) and as I recall, I was never actually speaking of the case with the Afghan war in the first place and most importantly, I've never stated that they didn't use it at all, but only that they never used it officially (were never originally issued with it) and solely that was my point.
I was actually speaking about the general (official) case with the usage of the rifle and these few photo links you've posted above now even better and even more prove my original point, since they're all exclusively from the Afghan war, as I've expected (the T-62M tanks are probably the finest giweaways, among other details of course). It's completely normal that the tankers used AKS-74's there, logically because it was a war down there and it's naturally expected that in such case and random conditions or opportunities, everyone uses literally anything that they get their hands on, even something that's not originally ''theirs''. Every army in any conflicts experiences such, let's say ''disorganisations''. Moreover, the Soviet tankers deliberately preferred the AKS-74 there, because the skirmishes often took place at longer ranges - in mostly wide-open terrains of the Afghan deserts where the AKS-74 turned out to be sensibly more useful, thanks to its much longer barrel which features much higher muzzle velocity and thus offers superior range along with the accuracy, compared to the 74U. So, the Afghan war actually doesn't mean or prove absolutely anything what's concern of the official usage of the AKS-74 among Soviet tankers (so they did use it of course, but were actually never officially issued with it, as I've previously stated).
Literally the same thing can be said for the photo from the later First Chechen war I've last attached - showing Russian tankers using GP-30 attached AK-74M's. But that does not mean that tankers were ever officially issued with GP-30's nor with bag containing its ammunition (grenades) as the standard-issue equipment.
And that's where my story came in as the evidence - back home, in their domestic lands (the USSR, or the rest of the Eastern bloc), there's simply not a single photo/video (for my experience, at least) which would prove that the AK/AKS-74 was ever officiall used by the Soviet tankers, that is, that they were ever officiall issued with one - all of the photos and videos I've ever saw (portraying Soviet tankers during various combat practices, training excersises or daily routines) always show AKS-74U in their hands or slung across their backs, exactly like on the photos I've attached in the original comment.
After all, that's exactly why the 74U was originally designed in the first place - it was always intended for vehicle crewmen and helicopter pilots (MIL Mi-17 transport as well as 24 gunship) and the restricted spaces of their vehicles or aircraft. In opposite, if the tankers or pilots were ever officially using the longer versions back during Soviet times, then why would the shortened version ever exist, no? While that longer folding variant (AKS-74 and the previous AKMS/AKS) were (again, officially speaking) always intended exclusively for mechanized infantry (of BMP's and BTR's, so that the barrel or stock don't hit/get stuck on doors or hatches while they're getting in or out) as well as paratroopers while conducting jumps (so that the stock doesn't brake their jaw when hitting the ground) and thus never officially inteded for any vehicle crews nor pilots, logically because they had their own, special shortened versions.
@@m4mihulja you are wrong on so many counts on your second reply that I'm not going to respond to it properly. It would take too much time.
Well okay then, just try to find some photos or videos to support your claims and then I'll believe you for a word, as I've said already. Simple as that. (photos/pictures/videos are undoubtely the finest evidences anyway, especially for topic like this) Until then, I'm sorry but you're now just trying to label your own personal opinions as some ''facts'', which are indeed not. Starting from that modern version of the suit which is currently standard-issue for all T-72/80/90 tankers (and which you've totally ignored in the video, obviously because you didn't know about it at all until I've presented it here) and and so on and so on...
Dude this is such an awesome video! Well put together, great info and really cool B roll/footage. Please do more like this also the fact it was on Cold War Russian stuff made it cooler
Blasting Kino in a T-72 you got yourself another sub!
Does this tank comes from Poland? It has two orange circels with black triangles inside one on the front plate second at the back. It's distinctive polish military emblem.
Yessir, T-72M Polish.
@@Oxide_does_his_best polish army still use it bruh
@@ukrolus8439 Czechs and Slovakians as well.
@@osiris3103 well welcome to post soviet countries like I live in Poland and military ja shit Poland is still using broken post soviet gear
@@ukrolus8439 I'm Czech, bro. We are virtually on the same exact boat.
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This looks awesome, I hope we see some much more insane projects in the future.
Masterfully produced, keep up the good work.
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Amazing video, keep up the good work dude!
Спасибо парни 👍, хорошо сработали. А видеть крепких мужиков вылезающих с люков непривычно)) глаз привык к солдатикам срочникам 18ти - 20ти лет проходящих службу на такой технике. Цой и Кино вообще в тему!
You can replace the sound of this video at any point with
FATHER THEY HAVE WRITTEN
ON THE POINT OF NO RETURN
What version of Neveselaya Pesnya is playing at the end?
I think it’s the one on the album кино в кино. ruclips.net/video/5sx-EAEFl4o/видео.html 28:31
@@finnwade372 found the version from the video here: ruclips.net/video/kThr86BQ0QY/видео.html
With that 'stache and shades I half expected Modern Talking's "Who Will Save the World" to start playing.
Amazing stuff, Oxide! Always sitting in excitement for your videos 😄
I love you oxide