The Thief on the Cross = Saved Through Faith ALONE?!
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- Опубликовано: 5 июн 2024
- In this video, we examine the conversion of the thief on the cross. How was he saved?
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Salvation can’t be earned it’s the Free Gift of God.
Amen
@@mariamartins5796 you wont make it. You need to trust Jesus to save you, no one else, nothing else, and definitely not your life savings of filthy rags.
@@carlcasey4177
You won't make it.
That's the same thing I was told by those who got the vaccine 4 yrs ago.
They said if I didn't get the vaccine I wouldn't make it.
It's obvious I did make it.
@@WC3isBetterThanReforged you wont make it too.
@@carlcasey4177
You won't make it.
I was told that by the vaccinated 4 yrs ago.
I did make it.
By grace alone, through faith alone, in Christ alone❤
Amen 🥰
@@mariamartins5796 Galatians 5:
3 For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law.
4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.
5 For we through the Spirit wait for the hope of righteousness by faith.
that is calvinism and is not found in any form in the Bible
I am believing in OSAS and I was so vehemently against it. However, you have cleared up so many confusing scripture by differentiating the discipleship/service/servant (works) from the salvation - no works. So many things fell into place for me. I’m reading the New Testament in a new light.
Thank you
Yes! Many are putting the cart before the horse.
Amen.
Romans 4:4-5 KJV
4 Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt.
5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.
No, the thief on the cross was not baptized. That’s correct. However this does not verify the claim you don’t have to be baptized.🤦🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️
1. While Jesus was on earth he had power to forgive sin. Matt 9:6!
So he could just forgive you and you could go to heaven.
2. The great commission for baptism was not enforced until after the resurrection. Matt 28:19!
So no this does not in any way back up this idea of not being baptized. True belief requires action. If you believe what Jesus says you will do what he says. Our modern day meaning of belief is not what biblical belief is.
John 14: 24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.
James 1: 22 But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.
DONT DECEIVE YOURSELVES.🤦🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️
@@revamp6612
Having belief in OSAS does not mean a person will not or does not do good works or get baptised. It just means that salvation is not dependant upon those good works or water baptism. I do not see OSAS as a free licence to sin. I now know for certain that I am saved because I believe and trust on Jesus Christ. This has truly set me free! The works I do are all down to the Spirit that resides in me and ALL glory goes to God.
I no longer rely upon my sinful flesh, that constantly lets me down and brings guilt and condemnation. Jesus’ sacrifice has made me righteous in the eyes of God and justified me. A free gift that I received for believing on Christ’s death, burial and resurrection. He is the son of God and His words and promises are enough for me.
@@debbiewareing1178 the fact that Jesus died for us while we were yet sinners, tells me it’s not our works that save us. We did absolutely nothing to earn that. Yet he died for us anyway. Our good deeds didn’t make him die. Yet our bad deeds can cost us our salvation. Sin leads to destruction. Tell me have you read Galatians? Who was Paul writing too?
People mock and call it "the bare minimum" but it is the bare maximum.
It’s the sole condition compatible with God’s unmerited grace.
@@OnoDiamante amen!
AAAAA MMMM EEEEEEE NNNN
I would compare those Christians who pride themselves with works to people who add a few cents to the price they pay for something and then go "keep the change".(lol)
I really do think its more detrimental than it is good for them.
I don't deserve you Jesus. Thank you for saving me.
We are to come to Jesus as a child. People want to make Salvation hard when all we have to do is "Believe".
Orthodox will say he was an exception because he had not time left to do good deeds, not realizing we are all the thief on the cross.
Yea but you can also argue by that logic that he definitely didn't do any works because he had no time to proving that works are not a requirement
@@bigal98761 pls explain?
This is undisputable proof that salvation is by faith alone. Great vid, God bless
Fuego you preach the same beautiful message, God bless you brother.
Exactly
No it’s not, actually. It shows a lack of study. The thief on the cross was while Jesus was on earth Jesus had power to forgive sin. Matt 9:6.
The thief on the cross was before the great commission. Matt 28:19.
There is also the question. Was the thief already baptized?
However to me that question is irrelevant due to the two points above.
So ask yourself can any man forbid water???
Acts 10: 45 And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.
46 For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter,
47 Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we?
48 And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.
@@revamp6612 You guys try to do everything in your power including twisting the scriptures just to make salvation about works. Why? Just give it up, believe in what the word says, and trust in his grace instead.
@@_ChristIsTheTruth here is what the word says.
Rom 11:19 Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be graffed in.
20 Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:
21 For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.
Think about that. Are you standing in faith high minded??? Keep in mind Paul was writing to the Church of Rome, to people who were already saved.🤔🤔🤔
“”””take heed lest he also spare not thee.””””
I speak about the thief on the cross, all the time: he never repented all of his sins, he never got baptized, he never had a multi tiered proving point to show that he was saved he believed the pond the Lord Jesus and Jesus declared that he would see him in Paradise
He believed the pond ?
Whats the pond ?
He repented of his unbelief and believed God
I am amazed at how vehemently people insist on adding to the perfect work and sacrifice of our Savior.
Thank you my brothers in christ for preaching the real gospel and made everyone save
Amen, not our works, but HIS Work. Blessings 😊
I love it that you used the word "Repented" to describe what the thief on the Cross did, that he "changed his mind" about who Jesus was. God's Holy Spirit has brought this word to my attention and I'm hearing Pastors and people everywhere say it "Repent" mean to turn from your sins. The Repent of your sins False Gospel. I'm sending everyone I know your and others videos of this word to help them understand the correct of these words in the King James Bible text.
Thank you so much.
Also, today I'm a happy woman, I finally got through on your Patreon. I think the problem was my bank card.
It can't mean to turn from sin God himself repented it's like calling God a sinner which is impossible because he never sinned
"To him that worketh not, but believeth on Him that justifieth the ungodly, his FAITH is counted for righteousness" - Romans 4:5, Faith without works equals righteousness, aka faith alone righteousness.
Thank you so much for your videos!✝️
It’s funny to me(in a sort of tragic way) that the biggest refutation of works based salvation is so often overlooked or outright ignored.
If the man on the cross next to Christ wasn’t saved by faith alone, then that would mean God is partial, which contradicts James 2. God is not partial. What I mean is, God doesn’t show favoritism, so if the man on the cross next to Christ didn’t need to get baptized or do any of works, then that also applies to every man equally. Anyone who says otherwise is calling God a liar… 🤷🏽♂️
Yes and he was willing to listen to what God was teaching him.
great point
Love ya brother ❤ come LORD JESUS
Great explanation of this gospel 🙌
It’s so simple but many people have made devils out of these other doctrines. Faith alone in Christ alone. OSAS! If you believe u can lose what u lost then u never had it to begin with.
Amen 🙏 this is the ultimate example of saved by grace through faith apart from works 🙌
Amen 🙏 brother in our Lord Jesus Christ ✝️ God bless
What an incredible reminder of God's boundless grace! The thief on the cross is a perfect example of how faith alone can save us, even in our final moments.
You are without a doubt the best at explaining scripture when it’s confusing. Have you ever thought to become a pastor? Lol. We need more pastors in this world that preach the correct gospel.
This makes me appreciate the lord Jesus even more, I am grateful for the lord Jesus.
Thank you Lord Jesus Christ for the preacher man Oronato diamante
Amen and Amen brother!
We are truly the thieves on the cross, guilty of all charges and ALREADY condemned to death
AMen!!!!!
My brother and my pastor
I’m no one’s pastor, brother.
Don't you host a service in prison each week?
🤔✝️🤔
@@OnoDiamante okay my brother then…
@@MakeRoomForGod I preach in the prison weekly, but I’m not a pastor.
Great video brother! Keep spreading that good news!
Thank you for posting this video. Well done brother!
WE call that Confession!!!
The thief who repented became a preacher to his fellow criminal on the cross. "We are punished justly, for we are getting what our deeds deserve. But this man has done nothing wrong.”
Great video brother 🙏🏿
Amen ✝ thanks again for the lesson
Amen 🙏
What a beautiful message, what a beautiful video. Thanks Onorato, I like your style 😊
Amen Brother
The blood of Jesus is the sole most precious atoning payment and valuable thing to ever exist. To say that one can compare their filthy rags to the righteousness of God is blasphemy and it calls God a liar as well. We need to pray for these conditionalists and Lordshipers who have been deceived and continue deceiving while this thinking that they are doing the will of God. Thank you, brother Ono, for opening my eyes are I, too, was fooled by that false gospel for many years. God bless you and peace of Christ to you.
Jesus gave the gospel to both, one believed and received. one believed not and perished. Best example that there is in the word of God how to be saved.
AMEN
Not. By. Faith. But. By. Grace. Thru. Faith. ! Only. Believe.
i heard a story about the thief on the cross so sweet i cried my heart out.
exactly was thinking of this example last night
The poor thief on the cross would have had no chance with the legalists.
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Amen the thief on the cross had no works to demonstrate his faith, all he did was believe and he was saved.
The Thief on the Cross is always my go to to refute the works based salvationists on how to be saved. They never have an answer for it.😂
In the days of Abraham and the under the law of Moses, men were saved by the same Grace as in the days of Christ's Grace according to Romans 4:
"3 For what saith the scripture? ([1]Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness).
4 Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt.
5 But ([3]to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness)."
And furthermore of David Romans 4 says:
"6Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, ([2]unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works),
7 Saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered.
8 Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin."
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the respective clauses and their ages in their proper chronological order are:
[1]: the days of Abraham before the law of moses
[2]: the precrucifiction age of the law of moses
[3]: the postcrucifiction age of grace
In all 3 ages, according to Romans 4, men were saved by "their faith in God being counted as righteousness)
Why then the petition and propitiation of Christ? To make peace between God and the WHOLE WORLD (not just Jacob) ONCE and for ALL. (1 John 2:2).
Anyone who denies this truth of universal salvation denies the truth of Christ.
AMEN. Thank you
It also says IF Abraham were justified by works he has the glory but NOT before GOD that's what James was saying your faith without works are dead in the sight of man not God
Works salvation is heresy
There's many who load works into what that thief did. I've heard he kept the Torah. Lol. I've heard his mouth saved him. I've heard his repenting from sins saved him. I've heard he was an exception, that no one gets saved like that today. I've heard that was before the resurrection, and it's Old Testament salvation from the same ones who preach John 3:16 cannot save today. Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ plus nothing to be saved is too little for many professing Christians, too little for many Bible believing Baptists. John 3:16 is enough for me to know I'm saved.
Acts 3:19, "REPENT, then, and turn to God, so that your sins may be wiped out, that times of refreshing may come from the Lord."
Matthew 4:17 says, "From that time on Jesus began to preach, “REPENT, for the kingdom of heaven has come near.”
Acts 17:30 says, "In the past God overlooked such ignorance, but now he commands all people everywhere to REPENT.
Luke 13:3 says, "I tell you, no! But unless you REPENT, you too will all perish."
Acts 2:38 says, "Peter replied, “REPENT and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit."
2Corintians 2:10 says, "Godly sorrow brings REPENTANCE that leads to salvation..."
Are we saved by the gospel? Did the thief hear the gospel so as to believe?
Yes. “For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.” Romans 1:16
No, this is a case of progressive revelation.
@@OnoDiamante Absolutely, today we are saved by the gospel. I agree we have to have faith to be saved, 100%. The following is how I suggest we better understand what that faith looks like.
You say "the *only thing* the thief could do to be saved is the *only thing* we must do to be saved". How we are saved today cannot and should not be compared to the thief. Today we are saved by the gospel. The thief did not hear the gospel and therefore could not obey the gospel. Therefore, his example doesn't apply to us.
To understand how we today are saved by the hearing and obeying of the gospel, wouldn't it be wise to understand the conversions of those who heard and obeyed the gospel? God has seen fit to give us multiple examples. You pulled one verse from one of the later conversions to prove your point.
If what you say is true, then you should be able to prove your point starting with the great commission, (where Jesus sends out the apostles out to proclaim the gospel and make disciples,) and then the conversions that follow.
I hate how Gino Jennings thinks and declares that the criminal went to Hell because he was not baptized in water. Gino doesn't realize that if that's the case, then Jesus would have never promised him that he would be with him in Paradise
Onorato, I’ve heard you are post-trib rapture. That doesn’t bother me, I have no clue when it’ll be. My question is are we already in the tribulation, or bearing it but not in it?
The thief on the cross also proves that soul sleep is unbiblical too since Jesus told him TODAY he will be with him in paradise
1:55 FEAR OF GOD he was saved bc he had the fear of God and a changed of heart that ment his spirit was alive even tho his flesh was dieing if wee look at paul he is a example of the first thef that repented that hour the beging of knowledge is the fear of God Jesus said keep his comandment why does every generation think they dont have to obey God i will be praying for you God bless
Thief was pre-Paul and saved by faith AND works(confess by mouth)
Believers today are POST Paul.
Besides faith/trust in the death/burial/resurrection of Christ where does Paul teach our works/personal effort are also required for you & I to be JUSTIFIED/saved ?
Paul verses please.
Please explain to me this verse then?
Joshua 24:14-15 KJV
[14] Now therefore fear the LORD, and serve him in sincerity and in truth: and put away the gods which your fathers served on the other side of the flood, and in Egypt; and serve ye the LORD. [15] And if it seem evil unto you to serve the LORD, choose you this day whom ye will serve; whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD.
Seams like God wants us to Obey him
@@patricj951 his free gift is Jesus Christ dieing for all of our sins not for eternal life that's based on if u obey the holy spirit it's called the 2ed death Jesus has saved us from the first one the 2ed death is for disobedience children God bless get away from youtubers and read the word of God God Bless
Thanks. Are people who believe they can lose their salvation really saved?
If they initially trusted in Christ alone. Many genuine believers are led astray doctrinally concerning their security in Christ due to a lack of growth and false teaching.
@@OnoDiamantestop lying to these people to make them feel good.
The thief was before the resurrection. Jesus commanded baptism after his resurrection. Matt 28:19.
Also Jesus while was on earth had power to forgive sin. Matt 9:6
After his resurrection this changed.
I’m going to ask you, can any man forbid water???
Acts 10:47-48 has that answer. Now please stop leading people astray.
let me try explaining it to you like this when you were born u was a sinner Jesus already died on the cross are you paid for your sins something dramatic happens to you fire happens and a fireman comes in your house to save you he gets stuck in the building you freak out you want to help him so you tell him is there anything that I can do to help and all he says is love God with all your heart soul and mind and show the same kind of love that I have shown you to your neighbor now look that man died we could go on with our lives learning to hate people and forget what that firemen died for so that fireman's death was in vain but if we remember what the fireman's words of what he said before he passed away then his death was not in vain just believing is not the only thing you absolutely need because that's lip service you have to obey everyone is going to be judged according to their works works of the spirit no longer works of the flesh that fireman saved you from your fleshly death he's asking you to be spiritually bound to him even though he's dead but has Resurrected
Sir, I find it quite interesting that you would say that a cult is one that teaches "justification by faith alone". There is only one place in the bible from Gen to Rev which uses the term "faith alone" and it is proceeded by the word "not". In that book of James there is an important statement about this idea. James writes about Abraham, an often listed person who was saved before and without lifting a finger. Lets actually read what James says on this matter.
Jas 2:21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works (when) he offered Isaac his son on the altar?
Jas 2:22 Do you see that faith was working together with his works, and by works faith was made perfect?
Jas 2:23 And the Scripture was fulfilled which says, "ABRAHAM BELIEVED GOD, AND IT WAS ACCOUNTED TO HIM FOR RIGHTEOUSNESS." And he was called the friend of God.
Jas 2:24 You see then that a man is justified by works, and not by faith only.
The word "when" is an adj. and it's temporal. It tells us "when" at what point Abraham was considered justified by God. Maybe you have never actually read this verse.
You also simply don't understand what the word "faith" means. Its the Greek word "pistis" and it's a noun. It NEVER means believe. That would be the word pisteuo in the Greek. That is the word correctly translated believe. NOT faith. Most bible translations are from those who are reformers. Men who believe in the Luther doctrine of faith alone. That is a vile concept Luther picked up from some of his friends like Wycliffe and Huss. The bible NEVER teaches the faith alone doctrine.
Heb 11:8 By faith Abraham obeyed when he was called to go out to the place which he would receive as an inheritance. And he went out, not knowing where he was going.
Notice this tells us "when" Abraham did what he did "by faith". It was "when he was called" . What did he DO? He obeyed God's instructions. You must think
he should have said to God, "no way Lord, I don't believe in working my way to heaven" you need to read Luther. Abraham "obeyed by faith". Faith is what God told him to do. Another adj, "when".
You really need to actually read the words written by the inspiration of God and believe them.
Thanks, Post Hole Digger
Content creator, do you use the KJV only?
Do you believe it's the only real bible of God the Father of Jesus Christ?
Atheists mock Jesus all the time.
Jesus still obeyed the Father and died for them too.
I would believe that if the other account agreed with that one ,but it don't,it says both of them railed against Jesus.Thenvon top of that Jesuscwouldchaveclied about thecstagescofcsalvation.Suchcas being babtised by water,asxHeceas.Andcmustcbe born again,which the man on the cross never did either.Jesuscsaidcthiscdsycyouvwill be with me in paradise,the waiting place of the dead.Not eternal life.ano one has that yet.ItcsayscJesuscmust be first partaker of the fruit.Mraningcwhen His kingdom comes.
there are bizarre statements that was the old covernant that was why the thief was saved...the new covernant people must be water baptised to be saved...
Incorrect. ruclips.net/video/6qks9fCWJBA/видео.htmlfeature=shared
What bizzare statements?
Your statement is bizarre for sure.
@@OnoDiamante it is an interesting topic regarding water baptism...i do believe that the blood of Jesus washes our sins...not water...however...how do we explain why then there were Jews and Gentiles being water baptised...?what is the purpose of them being water baptised...?
@@morghe321 the bizarre view is why the thief was saved without water baptism but yet in the book of Acts Jews...Semaritians and Gentiles were water baptised...?many claimed it is for salvation...
out of context and proof texting. he died before the New Covenant took effect. The New Covenant didn't take effect until the Day of Pentecost when the Holy Spirit came. That is also when the "church" and "Kingdom" came into being. The Bible describes when someone becomes a Christian is "when the Lord adds them to the church". Anyway, Jesus forgave him personally just like he forgave many when he was alive but that is still under the Old Testament Covenant. A covenant doesn't take effect until the "testator has died" Scripture only please. Examples are "after they are baptized, they are added to the church by the Lord" There is no other examples in the "original Bible KJV " that says grace alone through faith alone. NOWHERE! That is an invention of Martin Luther. Martin Luther’s most notable alteration in his translation of the New Testament into German was the addition of the word “allein” (alone) to Romans 3:28. The original Greek text does not include this word. Luther’s rendering reads, “A man is justified through faith alone, apart from the works of the law” Martin Luther became an enemy of God when he CHANGE the original text. This is where we are today-in the sea of false denominations that the writers of the NT warned was going to happen. Wolves have crept in among you. scripture please! TC
I can't find "ALONE" in Rom 3:28.
Why does "ALONE" concern you ?
Does Paul teach JUSTIFICATION/saved requires works/personal effort ?
If it's not of works then it is faith ALONE
New International Version
For we maintain that a person is justified by faith apart from the works of the law.
New Living Translation
So we are made right with God through faith and not by obeying the law.
English Standard Version
For we hold that one is justified by faith apart from works of the law.
Berean Study Bible
For we maintain that a man is justified by faith apart from works of the law.
New American Standard Bible
For we maintain that a person is justified by faith apart from works of the Law.
NASB 1995
For we maintain that a man is justified by faith apart from works of the Law.
NASB 1977
For we maintain that a man is justified by faith apart from works of the Law.
Amplified Bible
For we maintain that an individual is justified by faith distinctly apart from works of the Law [the observance of which has nothing to do with justification, that is, being declared free of the guilt of sin and made acceptable to God].
Christian Standard Bible
For we conclude that a person is justified by faith apart from the works of the law.
Holman Christian Standard Bible
For we conclude that a man is justified by faith apart from the works of the law.
Contemporary English Version
We see that people are acceptable to God because they have faith, and not because they obey the Law.
Good News Translation
For we conclude that a person is put right with God only through faith, and not by doing what the Law commands.
GOD'S WORD® Translation
We conclude that a person has God's approval by faith, not by his own efforts.
International Standard Version
For we maintain that a person is justified by faith apart from the actions prescribed by the Law.
NET Bible
For we consider that a person is declared righteous by faith apart from the works of the law.
King James Bible
Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.
New King James Version
Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith apart from the deeds of the law.
King James 2000 Bible
Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.
New Heart English Bible
For we maintain that one is justified by faith apart from the works of the law.
World English Bible
We maintain therefore that a man is justified by faith apart from the works of the law.
American King James Version
Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.
American Standard Version
We reckon therefore that a man is justified by faith apart from the works of the law.
A Faithful Version
Consequently, we reckon that a man is justified by faith, separate from works of law.
Darby Bible Translation
for we reckon that a man is justified by faith, without works of law.
English Revised Version
We reckon therefore that a man is justified by faith apart from the works of the law.
Webster's Bible Translation
Therefore we conclude, that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.
Geneva Bible of 1587
Therefore we conclude, that a man is iustified by faith, without the workes of the Lawe.
Bishops' Bible of 1568
Therfore, we holde that a man is iustified by fayth, without the deedes of the lawe.
Coverdale Bible of 1535
We holde therfore that a man is iustified by faith, without the workes of the lawe.
Tyndale Bible of 1526
For we suppose that a man is iustified by fayth without the dedes of ye lawe.
Literal Translations
Literal Standard Version
therefore we reckon a man to be declared righteous by faith, apart from works of law.
Berean Literal Bible
Therefore we reckon a man to be justified by faith apart from works of the Law.
Young's Literal Translation
therefore do we reckon a man to be declared righteous by faith, apart from works of law.
Smith's Literal Translation
We reckon then man to be justified by faith without the works of the law.
Literal Emphasis Translation
Therefore we reckon a man to be justified by faith separate from the works of the law.
Douay-Rheims Bible
For we account a man to be justified by faith, without the works of the law.
Catholic Public Domain Version
For we judge a man to be justified by faith, without the works of the law.
Aramaic Bible in Plain English
We determine therefore that by faith a man is made righteous and not by the works of The Written Law.
Lamsa Bible
Therefore we conclude that it is by faith a man is justified and not by the works of the law.
Anderson New Testament
For we conclude that a man is justified by faith, without deeds of law.
Godbey New Testament
For we conclude that a man is justified by faith without works of law.
Haweis New Testament
We conclude therefore that by faith a man is justified, without works of law.
Mace New Testament
for we conclude, that a man is justified by faith, without observing the legal rites.
Weymouth New Testament
For we maintain that it is as the result of faith that a man is held to be righteous, apart from actions done in obedience to Law.
Worrell New Testament
For we reckon that a man is justified by faith, apart from works of law.
Worsley New Testament
Therefore we conclude, that a man is justified by faith, without the works of the law:
@@robusc4940 my argument is against Faith alone. Luther created it and Calvinism also are the 2 heresy's that have destroyed the original intent of the writers of the NT. Reformed doctrine is from SATAN. The Bible is true. Read James -"faith without works is dead".
Amen!
Jesus is the author of faith (Hebrews 12:2), not the offeror of faith. It is BECAUSE OF HIM that we're in Christ Jesus (1 Cor 1:30), not because we choose to believe in Him. That would make salvation because of us. Therefore, everyone was saved through the death and resurrection of Jesus. He is the Savior of ALL men (1 Tim 4:10, 2 Cor 5:19, 1 John 2:2, John 1:29, Hebrews 1:3...shall I go on?), not just the Savior of those who believe in Him.
Paradise is not heaven. Yahushua decended into the grave and set the captives in paradise free. Abraham's bussom is paradise a holding place for the rightous dead untill the sacrafice on the cross. After the cross believers must be baptized.
We are saved by Paul's gospel which is 1Cor 15:1-4. How could you don't mention that. John 3:16 is the message to Israel that they need to believe is Their promised Messiah to be saved. But we, Gentiles, need to believe what Paul preached 1Cor 15: 1-4. Dispensation. It's also very clean in Eph 1: 7-12.
Remember, this is BEFORE the cross. 1 Corinthians 15 hadn't applied yet. That's why he said, "Go watch the video if you want to know how to saved.
No, the thief on the cross was not baptized. That’s correct. However this does not verify the claim you don’t have to be baptized.🤦🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️
1. While Jesus was on earth he had power to forgive sin. Matt 9:6!
So he could just forgive you and you could go to heaven.
2. The great commission for baptism was not enforced until after the resurrection. Matt 28:19! The thief was forgiven before the great commission.
So no this does not in any way back up this idea of not being baptized. True belief requires action. If you believe what Jesus says you will do what he says. Our modern day meaning of belief is not what biblical belief is.
John 14: 24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.
James 1: 22 But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.
DONT DECEIVE YOURSELVES.🤦🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️
Oh ok, so all the Old Testament saints were made righteous by faith alone? Then immediately after Christ’s ascension an extra condition of water baptism was added on? Funny how you’ll appeal to John 3:5 to teach baptismal regeneration when that was prior to the Lord’s death. Jesus must have been telling Nicodemus about a future necessity when He said “ye MUST be born again…after I ascend”. Ridiculous.
@@OnoDiamante Please elaborate on what point you are attempting to make. You lost me on that one??🤔🤷🏽♂️➡️ (“So all the Old Testament saints were made righteous by faith alone?” )
When did I appeal to John 3:5???
But in response to that. What water baptism was Jesus referring too, in John 3:5? How do you know the thief wasn’t already baptized?
It’s actually ridiculous that you automatically think he wasn’t, yet neither me or you know if he was or wasn’t. The fact that Jesus could just forgive sin on earth Matt 9:6 is enough to get anyone to heaven.apparently he was teaching Nicodemus something new for the future since Nicodemus had no clue what Jesus was talking about.🤦🏽♂️ John 3:4. How do you suppose the apostle Paul taught baptism as the death of Christ and the infilling of the Spirit as the resurrection. Genuinely Dwell on that for a bit. It’s ridiculous that your nerves are struck so easily when you are challenged in the word of God.
So answer this please. CAN ANY MAN FORBID WATER???
Aren’t we supposed to baptize all nations???
@@revamp6612 The point is that your position necessitates various plans of salvation. How were Old Testament saints made righteous? See Romans 4. John 3:5 isn’t referring to water baptism at all, it’s referring to the new birth by faith alone (John 3:16-18, John 1:12, Galatians 3:26, 1 John 5:1). So your assertion is that the thief could have been baptized prior to coming to faith on the cross and therefore that’s valid? I thought you had to believe on Christ first to be baptized? (Acts 8). Also, you haven’t struck any nerve. These are the same old arguments I’ve encountered again and again.
@@OnoDiamante now you are just being led by tunnel vision.🤣😂 you are way to cocky dude, relax. Did everyone who was baptized by John believe in Jesus???
So no that does not throw out anything. I will be straightforward with you. You can play that know it all game on some one else. Your flawed idea of belief is laughable. True believers do what Jesus says. All throughout the New Testament we are told to “obey” the faith. How do you obey faith??? We are told faith without works is dead.
Read Hebrews 11. 🤦🏽♂️🤣😂
You’ll learn about true faith. You continue to flaw in your own ideas. “Faith alone”
False. We are saved by grace through faith. You so stubbornly look completely over Pauls letter to the Church of Rome. “People already saved.
Rom 11:19 Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be graffed in.
20 Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:
21 For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.
Ask yourself are high minded in faith???
“take heed lest he also spare not thee.”
That’s the real truth.🤦🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️🤔🤔
😂🤣 Roman’s 4. Yes I’ve read it and still do. However heb 11 tells you what faith is. We are told several times in scripture to obey the faith. How do you obey the faith??? Faith with out works is dead. I have faith that if i obey Jesus and believe repent and be baptized and filled with Holy Ghost I will be saved. I believe Jesus so I do as he says.
You are wrong as well “faith alone”🤣😂🤦🏽♂️ we are saved by grace through faith.
Think about it, but read it first.
James 1: 22 But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.
Thanks, I needed to hear this.🫂