He said it can tow a 2 tonne caravan. Can you imagine looking forward to your summer caravan holiday touring Scotland in that thing. Imagine every hundred miles or so having to find a public charging point, having to decouple the caravan to go and charge it, waiting 45 mins and then paying 80p/kwh for the privilege. And then rinse, repeat only 150 miles later. The only buyers will be the BIK salary sacrifice crowd. I believe Porsche’s days are numbered along with Ford, VW, Mercedes, Volvo and most other ICE car manufacturers.
The amount of owners of caravans is really low...anyone of those can happily buy a Diesel instead...does not matter. I have researched this for Germany...48 Mio Cars are currently in use...and "only" 800k caravans. BUT...those who can afford a Porsche Macan, will most likely tow horses frequently for shorter distances...
Doesn't look great, but not completely appalling. It looks like the new Chinese taxis - possibly because it looks like the battery vehicles that are coming out of China. Maybe they should call it the Porsche Macao ? They should price this in Yuan - then it would make you feel really special when you get some overpriced finance deal on it.? "How much did you pay for your Macao, Nigel" ... "I pay 2 mirrion for it"
Not too suprising...a former Chief Designer of Audi/Bentley, is now the Chief Designer of Geely...They learn fast...like korean...after also a former Chief Designer of Audi changed to Kia/Hyundai...success begun.
No, VAG still makes money...but in capitalism it must be always more money. AND Porsche is the most successfull brand within VAG and makes a loooot of profit per car.
It's very average. Design is average, it's heavy, only reasonably roomy, sounds like a Star Wars spaceship (not nice), range is really 250 miles at best, and expensive although could be worse. Doesn't set the world on fire does it?
Hi Pete, you say that ‘Porsche should have made this 4 years ago’ - I disagree. That would not have been possible at this price point, range and tech. You’re now getting 300-mile range at a much lower price point than Taycan. The tech has also improved greatly with this PPE platform, systems like Innodrive and augmented reality heads-up display are much better than even gen 2 Taycan. This is only this good and possible due to everything Porsche learnt with gen 1 Taycan at a higher price point.
Not really...the underpinning technic for EVs was ready for use about 3 years ago...BUT...the software base on top was a nightmare, which delayed...Macan, Q6, Audi A5/7...etc., too. Audi A5 (formerly known as A4) should have been released two years earlier. Macan and Q6 are using same Software Base.
@@josefv-y8m There isn't many nice electric sports cars however the Macan is competing against many electric SUV (as dull as they are), which frankly all look the same but will be much cheaper. What's going to make me go buy a battery powered Porsche over a Kia Sportage
I used depreciation to my advantage. Online filled out make, model, spec and colour I wanted. Got exactly what I wanted, 6 months old, 5000 miles. 46% below new price, from a dealer and delivered to my door.
Playing anti-EV bingo - crossed off 'milk float' and 'white goods', now just just waiting for 'I've seen so many on fire' and 'I get 750 miles per tank in my diesel Volvo' 🤣🤣
@craig8638 I said no Porsche enthusiast would buy it. Just mums on school run buying the Macan with the added bonus that it has a Porsche badge on front
You have no idea what you are talking about. I’ve owned three petrol powered Porches in the last 15 years and now I own a Taycan and it is simply brilliant.
@@tonyhilliardukI do know what I'm talking about. Sure the Taycan has instant power but is still a heavier car, I would say the mass depreciation tells me I know more than you do! Unless you know of another reason why I can buy a 8 year old 911 for the same price as a 2 year old Taycan? That had a higher starting price
@@Dan-hy5co apologies I reread what I wrote and it came across as rude. Unintentional. However I am a Porsche enthusiast and I’ve bought one so your statement isn’t accurate.
As long we have ears as human beings, sound ist something we like...there is bad sound and good sound...If you don't like it, is OK...like we all like electric guitar sound, which is pure fake, too. I miss the sound in EVs for sporty driving...especially to find a brake point in curves...you always have to look at the speedo instead...or you hear the crying tyres...than you were too fast ;-). A Hyundai Ioniq5 N has the perfect sound and it even simulates gear changes...
It will only end if people refuse to buy them. Even governments with their whack job policies cannot force people to buy EVs. Cars will become like smartphones - it will be all about the new releases of tech, simplicity of design and battery range. that’s why Tesla and BYD have done well so far.
What is new about this? Any Luxury car looses a lot of money as soon you have driven the first 100m... And not even luxury...my Passat GTE was 70k Listprice in 2020...now with 50k km...at 18k dealer price...
No rear wiper? Does Porsche think it never rains in a car park? Or low speed traffic queues? And it was a great place to hide the boot release on the old Macan
I've always loved Porsche, but I'm not a fan of the look😢 I think it needs more attitude !!! From the side, it reminds me of the old rav 4 with that side molding.
I have plenty of money to buy new cars and have bought many over the years. If the only new vehicle choice is an EV, I will never buy another new vehicle ever again. Simple. There are millions of people who hold the same sentiment as me. Manufacturers will go bust, there is just no other option.
Wrong wrong wrong, why would you want a car to drive but have no wonderful engine noise when you want it and sit around 30mins to hour or even longer if charging at home than driving the car... makes zero sense and hope porsche put their 6stroke engine into this
Daddy Daddy! The car isn't working properly. Its not making the brum brum noise! When charging at home it takes me 30 secs to charge my EV which is all the time it takes to plug it in and walk away to enjoy my evening. When charging at a motorway services the car is usually charged before I have time to have a pee and buy a coffee.
I like you and your channel. I like that you doing well and enjoying what you are doing but your reviews are becoming increasingly irrelevant due to the cars you are reviewing.😢
I review new cars to market. This is a long awaited car from Porsche. Just because it’s an EV doesn’t mean it irrelevant. Please let me know which cars I have had on the channel recently that are irrelevant? Honestly interested to know 👍
Thanks for a reply, l think the car market in this country, perhaps globally is screwed. Your insight and analysis on that would be more welcome than reviewing a new over priced Porsche which no one will buy. The reality is that pure electric vehicles are at the wrong price point, have insurance issues and there remains a question mark over their batteries in later years. We're all going to have to hang onto our ICE or hybrid vehicles for a lot longer. Manufacturers know this.
On initial glance, yes. However, it's stylistically much better executed than a BYD. For a mid size SUV, it has great proportions.. On every single criteria other than cost; there's no contest.
In the USA it's sold as a 'Porsche BYD Experience' - and you get 20% off your meal at Panda Express anywhere in the U.S. for 12 months, if you show your Blue Title Document.😋
Electric power never gets boring. And this is something people use as a daily driver. Nothing beats the smooth quiet linear acceleration of an electric vehicle on a daily basis. I just looked at one today in person. It’s definitely better than it looks in pictures.
@@craig8638live with it for three years as I did. Look, they are very accomplished cars but they take all the emotion out of driving.. it’s just a tool to get you from A to B. You don’t sit at home and think ‘ I’ll just go for a drive ‘
Recently test drove one Pete and i have now ordered. As a buinsess owner, a no brainer!! The 300 mile range is the game changer, unlike the Taycan. Very impressed the way it drove and will be big enough for the family. Great driving car and is was quiter than i expected. My kids in the back said the view was very limited due to the width of the front seats! That aside, everybody was happy. can't wait to get it next year. Great video as always 👍👍
£68k for the entry EV one with no extras, petrol entry is £56k and will hold it's value way better, there is no point in these expensive EV's if you can even afford one. I do have an EV myself as a company car so I'm not here just bashing EV's and I'm a massive Porsche fan boy. Porsche have already announced this week there cutting EV products through lack of demand so any EV you buy will be worthless within a year from Porsche.
@@SDK2006bI don’t think poor BC40 has worked that out. EV sales are up in Europe , Porsche just need to work harder to convince its ownership base and I say ownership base as fan base means nothing to them as they can’t afford the cars 80% of the time? This is a fantastic offering, an absolute rocket that will do the school run with ease, go to football training with kids packed in and go road trips and cost bugger all to fuel/ power and not spew out harmful fumes at street level.
@@SWR112 -yep 👍🏻 You also just described my EV use -school runs, my sons football matches Sat & Sun, MTB and Kayaking trips in Wales & Scotland during the footy off season. These EV SUV’s are perfect for this - loads of space, cheap running costs and no pollution.
Company cars started flooding the market earlier this year throwing values all over-the-place. Very few Porches were there but plenty of similar cars of similar performances albeit a sec or slower to 60 were in the mix. If I was in the market with 45k or so I wouldn't be buying a second premium EV when I could get similar performance brand new. There again only idiots buy expensive cars outright unless needing to lose some money for tax reasons. Lease or PCP and stop wasting money buying
Love the opening sequence with the rusty whateveritis. I think if you’re in a Porsche it doesn’t matter how it looks… in a way. It’s a family car for those with some coins. It’s nice.
Was just on the configurator and managed with ease to get the base model to £115k 🤯 Absolute madness as after 2 years it will be circa £45k. This will not last. ICE with bio fuel is the way forward.
It won’t be £45k after 2 years! My iX was £100k new, and after 3 years they are selling for £50k-£60k Also, in your post you are: 1) complaining it’s expensive new 2) complaining it’s cheap used What gives ! 🤔🤯🤦🏼♂️ Bio fuel for everyday use 🤣 That’s telling me you know nothing about how much fuel the world uses on a daily basis ! The US alone uses 376 million gallons of fuel PER DAY. How is bio fuel production meeting this requirement?!🤔
@@54duffield54- that looks like the £70k iX40 Now look up the iX50 💡 Also, your comparing the RRP (which no one pays) to the trade in price (which no one does) E.g no one buys a Taycan for full RRP, then 2/3 years later gives it away to Cinch. This only happens in the dreams & minds of social media.
This weighs half a ton more than my ice Macan GTS. You compared the price of the base model EV version to the top of the range Ice version of Macan. It’s hilarious how the speed of ‘refuelling’ is a feature on EVs.
Where is the majority of the weight located on an EV? - in the floor. Where is the majority of the weight located on your fuel Macan? - hanging ahead of the front wheels. Drive an EV and you will find weight isn’t so much of an issue because low centre of gravity. Also, like weight matters in car like this anyway - who is commuting via the Nurburgring in an SUV?
Good video, I've just been in a Macan 4 for a week (courtesy car). A lot of what you say is bang on but the range at 100% only showed 286 miles and this translated into about 260 miles in reality. I also got about 42 kWh per 100 miles, mixed driving. On 22" wheels (!) it's comfort was good but not amazing, I left it in normal mostly.The interior makes it a very nice place to spend any amount of time and it's plenty fast enough. The tech and interfaces are miles ahead of my Macan GTS as is the Bose sound system, simple touches like the actual buttons for the heater controls and the central rotary dial for the volume are very well thought out. This was my first experience with an EV and I see nothing green about this 2.3 ton car. But for many I can see it being a big hit if, and only if, you can charge it at home.
I'd have to reinforce my driveway at 2.5 tons, I bet the salesmen hate selling them because when they are 2 to 3 years old who dare tell the customer it's only worth 15 grand
Good job Ped, as ever you hit all the points we want to hear and see ( boot space and leg room are just as important as steering feel!), also showing the Sussex / Hampshire scenery off nicely 😉!
The problem with all these EV’s is it’s not going to be very long before electricity is the most expensive commodity then all EV owners will be crying over their chargers whilst they are waiting for their official charge times to come through, because electricity will be rationed simply because the national grids capacity will be completely surpassed! One may think I’m talking bonkers unfortunately since the crazy ideas of Ed Milliband’s energy policy came to light!
What a load of rubbish ( I hate Labour, so not going to defend them ) if there are restrictions on electricity then fossil fuel cars are also going to struggle as it's used for refining oil and also payments. Now imagine in the early 90s someone told you population would increase from around 59 million to around 68 million in 2024 and we would all have mobile phones, games consoles, 55"+ TVs , laptops, air fryers , dishwashers ( I can literally go on for hours with the extra electrical items we now have ) someone like yourself would have said " BUT, BUT the grid won't cope and we'll run out of electricity " . So what happened?🤔 The grid grew with the increase in our energy needs , now fossil fuel cars are going to be on our roads until at least 2040-45 . So you think the grid won't grow from now until then ?? Most people currently charge at night when electric is cheap and plentiful. People like yourself seem to think everyone will plug in at 5:30 in a evening 😲 , can you imagine everyone filling up their fossil fuel cars at 5:30 on a Friday? We'd have massive queues and petrol stations would run out. The fact is people fill up/charge at different times , in 15 years time most EVs will have 400-500+ miles of range ( ten years ago they had around 100 miles range) so most will either just top up for an hour or two of a night or fill up once a week of fortnight. So really stop talking b/s !
The issue isn't getting sufficient supply versus demand. The National Grid have spoken at length about this. The problem is getting the power to where it is needed. Grid connections by the DNOs to the high voltage grid are taking too long delaying the installation of ultra-rapid chargers (although now there are over 700 large hubs in the UK and should be well over 1000 next year).
Polished into blandness, i like the original Macan a lot, curvy sides snd Porsche bug eye front. This has lost that charm. Ioniq 5N has the space and pace snd ‘EV character’ and comes fully loaded.
Always gets me in car-mode watching Your great reviews - brilliant 🎉!! And also brings a smile on me viewing this…I`m the guy who wants to drive but due to the great entertaining moment in Your reviews, I could think about taking the passengerseat just to have some great car-chat with You 😂🙏!…and the Macan 4? Got mine delivered 2 weeks ago and just love it 😎👊!! Just keep Your great reviews coming Pete 👌!!
Love it, but it wouldn't be for me. I'm wanting to get out of SUVs and back into estate cars. I'm hoping that the A6/S6 Etron Avant depreciates into my much more modest budget.
Pete, if this can tow a caravan, what happens when you pull in to recharge? Aren’t all chargers placed so that you park in front of it? What happens to a huge caravan hanging off your rear end?? Also, how does range compare when towing?
Sounds as if you're looking for a premium, medium size, EV SUV - then this is the one. I think I'm right in saying it's two years later arriving than previously signposted - hopefully Porsche took some of the hard build-quality lessons learned from the Taycan into account before putting this new Macan on sale. However, I'll be sticking with my 400 hp Macan turbo, weighing nearly 400kg less and worth less than half what this EV would cost me. It makes a much better noise too!
Great video and great car, but I think a rear screen wiper should have been fitted to remove rainwater whilst stationary or parked up. I accept that on the move aerodynamics may take over and clear it, but not in town, just an opinion.
Really wanted this but any model with half decent spec was approaching £100k £1500 a month! for the same monthly’s I went for ID buzz £260 a month and 992 4s £1,200
That’s the same weight as a diesel Range Rover Sport that my friend has. He claimed that my EV Renault Megane Etech was heavy. Eh no, my car is 700kg lighter than his.
Last week the CFO of Porsche announced that there will be termic and hybrid Macan version as well. It is a fact that Taycan does not sell, Sporttourismo will not be produced anymore and orders for new Macan are far below excpectations. They have gone to far with electric. The reverse manouvre is embarassing though...
Hello Peter….thank you for this review…but as for what to think, I’m struggling. The old ICE Macan GTS has long been a favourite but I didn’t buy one because of the cost and Hilary found the 18 way sears to be very difficult to use given her arthritis problems. I did configurations on the Macan4 when it was first announced and always landed at £95,000….the test car in white without roof will be impossible to sell! Looks…not sure about the front and it needs colours and better wheels. Driving, riding, performance and practicality are all boxes ticked. The big worries though…depreciation just like the Taycan. I’m starting to think that EV’s only work with super discounts or under £30,000 and the Macan falls apart on those targets. It is the best smallish EV on sale…but I would not buy one yet…a used Taycan or E-Tron GT feels a little “safer” with £40,000+ off the price or more….Hmmm…🤔🤔🤔😬😬😬😃😃😃Richard Update:£114487 for “ my” 4S version tonight…😰😵💫😵💫😃😃😃😊
well i like it, seems like all porsche's have rocketed in price recently, (based on this and the new 992.2) that bit i don't like, but what i really really DO like is All the Negative comments from the anti EV lobby who are cleary just regurgitating tabloid/clickbait shite and have no real clue because they have never lived with one, hilariously brainwashed
With a usable 95kWh battery at 2.5 miles per kWh that equates to 237 miles. I think realistically it would be around 200 miles in the real world. The dashboard showed 280 miles at 99%. EVs are fastly becoming undesirable. PS look at the reviews for CarVertical.... Shocking.
You take a low estimate (237 miles). then deduct even more off it 🤣 I easily get 3.4 miles per kWh (real world use) in my iX, which is larger and heavier. In the summer I’m touching 3.8 miles per kWh. Obviously if you drive like Lewis Hamilton F1 qualifying everywhere, then you have to expect economy will fall off a cliff
@SDK2006b it's not an "estimate". If it has 95kWh of usable power and it averages 2.5 miles per kWh that's 237 miles. Every EV I've owned has never done near what the manufacturers claimed. This is why EV sales figures are falling. In Germany they're down 67% and France down 38%. Depreciation is the main factor. Your £100k iX is worth £35k after three years. No private buyer can afford that kind of loss.
@@54duffield54 - I would love to know where these £35k iX50’s are 🤔 The cheapest 3 year old one on AutoTrader is £53k. No private buyer gets a brand new EV at full RRP, then 3 years later gives it away to Cinch/WBAC. This scenario only exists in social media dream land. Where is your 2.5 miles per kWh coming from? In this video? If so, then that is already the real world use (driven hard as it’s a press car) and you’re reducing it even further! Porsche quote 380 miles for this Macan, so 300+ is likely very achievable, Also, my iX achieves the quoted range figure in the summer. Not just me either - the FB group is full of people getting it.
@@54duffield54 Where you get the numbers from? in 2024 it is -29% in Germany...+10 in UK...+9% in France...overall in Europe -5,5%, but only due to Germany as large market...rest of Europe would make it into an increase in growth. But even in Germany the September was a record sales month...
There are a lot of negative comments toward EVs in general but we must make a transition away from burning hydrocarbons. No need for oil changes, de-coking engines, expensive maintenence, no dependence on oil producing countries, no toxic emissions so our towns and cities will be much more pleasant to live in. I'll agree with you that theres a trade off in driving dynamics but there are advantages too, such as 50:50 weight distribution, lower centre of gravity but yes, the weight is a disadvantage but overall there is no reason to drive petrol/diesel anymore.
@@pauladams5673 There is every reason to still drive diesel and petrol. Based on all the issues with EVs. The convenience of just filling up in 3 mins without an app on your phone and the time wasted. On street parking isn't there and never will be, think of streets in Amsterdam or Barcelona, there would be wires everywhere, the range is rubbish and they just aren't as reliable due to hardware and software issues, the battery is more expensive than the car, so second hand sales plummet making the car a disposable item plus many more hurdles. Join us in the real world
@Dan-hy5co I must correct you on a few points; an EV battery will do a lot more miles than most I.C.E. engines. Tesla has data on all the cars it has sold and it shows that the average mileage when the battery has degraded by 10% (the battery has 90% of its original capacity) is 200,000 miles. The battery still has life after that, there are EVs with over 500,000 miles and the electric motor still has its original power - we can't say that about an I.C.E. You mentioned cables in the street in Amsterdam; actually, the Dutch are very innovative; they've made available multistorey parking, converting old industrial buildings and railway stations with EV charging. This "pool" of EVs charging becomes an energy storage that can be used in the home. This is an incentive for people to park in the garages and not on the street. This frees up space. As for range, most EVs will do at least 200 miles on a charge, some do double that. 200 miles is about three hours on the motorway and four hours on A & B roads. A 15 minute pit-stop for a pee and a coffee has your EV recharged to continue your journey BUT how often to we drive more than 200 miles in a day? Above all, we must recognise that we cannot continue to burn hydrocarbons for our energy needs. If you think about the whole system energy around I.C.E. vehicles, it is shockingly bad in terms of poor energy efficiency, pollution and carbon emissions. Most pump jacks (the nodding donkeys) and Oil Rigs are powered by diesel. The energy used to pump oil in the USA alone, is enough to run 35,000 EVs! By the time the oil is transported, refined transported again to the filling stations, 80% of the energy is lost. Then we burn it in an I.C.E which is about 25% efficient as most of the energy is lost as heat. Electric motors are more than 90% efficient. I have a VW ID.3, ie not an expensive EV, it has about 200 miles range in the winter, about 250 in the summer. I can recharge fairly quickly on public chargers but most of the time, I charge at home for 7p per kWh. That's under 2p per mile. To match that, an I.C.E. would have to achieve 318mpg based on £1.40/litre. EVs are not rubbish, they are smooth, very quiet, they have 160 times less components in the drive train so they are MUCH more reliable than ANY I.C.E., EVs last MUCH longer than any I.C.E. and they cost FAR LESS to run.
@@pauladams5673 Think you've just used a lot of words there with no actual substance behind any of it. You can't be silly enough to think I just meant Amsterdam, I was targeting cities like that, where driveways are scare, think you chose Amsterdam to suit your own narrative there, which is often what you guys do, you knew fully what I meant (I hope). Also talking of oil transported etc is just you blabbering, the consumer does not care at all about that and again you've tried to create something to fit your own narrative and quite frankly none of it even compares to that of Diesel or Petrol, my petrol car currently does 57mpg on £40 to fill tank, that's all anybody wants. Join me in the real world.
@Dan-hy5co The inefficiency of oil as energy is a vital point. You telling me that is "blabbering" suits your narrative. I have given you facts which you can corroborate. You have given me your opinion. I get it, many people don't like change but change is happening. Stop burning stuff!
@@pauladams5673 I find it hilarious that you think nothing is getting burnt in the production or charging of electric cars. These EVs are disposable, you don't see many 5 year old Tesla's on the road, partly because most are on company grants but also because Tesla owners aren't the type to drive around in dated cars. You keep burning stuff to make the newest EV. Clown
My old grizzle...for a SUV where is the spare/emergency tyre. Other than that an excellent sounding vehicle. Petrol v's EV, there is room for both especially in the big cities. Cheers and thanks Pete from DU.
If there was no legislation compelling manufacturers to produce and sell EVs, would Porsche (and the rest) be making them, and what do you think the natural balance/percentage/market demand of EV purchases actually is?
Not keen on the design, no where near as interesting as the old ICE model (I do not hate EVs!). As for the wheels, they look like they have been nicked from a VW Beetle!
Hey just wanted to post a comment to say I hope my bike didn't disturb your recording to much I was the lad on the motorbike going up and down the road trying to get some recording footage 😂
Legacy car manufacturer just don't get, it you need it to be family friendly and actually fit humans in comfortable in them, not trust like a chicken for Christmas need more rear space?🤔
According to other reviewers who reviewed this specific car, it is on standard steel suspension. If that is the case, it wouldn’t change by different sportsettings. Or are they mistaken? Furthermore I am interested in your opinion about the standard sound system that is in that specific car. Thank you for your very refreshing down to earth and friendly reviewing style.
Great review Sir Pete. Plan and simple I don’t like the styling much I like the gas powered ones styling a lot better. I think the Macan has always been a good looking midsize suv but this looks to boyish to me.
thanks for the quick review on this....feel the styling is very bland and lost any distinctive aesthetic.will try and spot one around London soon to judge in the flesh...have no issue with it being an EV or believing that it drives like a Porsche should....
I'm amazed at all the negativity surrounding this review. I suppose the channel title and the type of followers on here doesn't sit well with electric cars full stop. I have a Macan 4S on order, coming Dec 6th. I test drove a 4 like this one last weekend, and it's stunning. I'm on my 3rd Tesla, the current one a Model 3 performance, and this Macan is a million times better. Haters will always hate, but they are 100% wrong about this not selling. Orders are strong, and this will generation of Macan will continue to be the best selling car for Porsche period. Instead of criticising or making unfounded comments, go and test drive one. In the metal, they are very special I can guarantee that. Great video as always, showing brand new current car models. The times are a changing, like it or not.
I just don't think we as a country is geared up enough for EV's and you have to look at the fact are they really that green are the factory's run solely on eco sourced power no there not so its a bit of a flop in my opinion as most manufacturers are bringing back the diesel variant and slowing the production of EV's down kind of says it all to me...
"No one will buy it" 🤣I literally know 10 people with one on order. When you understand how new cars are 'bought' then you realise depreciation doesn't matter
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He said it can tow a 2 tonne caravan. Can you imagine looking forward to your summer caravan holiday touring Scotland in that thing. Imagine every hundred miles or so having to find a public charging point, having to decouple the caravan to go and charge it, waiting 45 mins and then paying 80p/kwh for the privilege. And then rinse, repeat only 150 miles later. The only buyers will be the BIK salary sacrifice crowd. I believe Porsche’s days are numbered along with Ford, VW, Mercedes, Volvo and most other ICE car manufacturers.
Not sure anyone could look forward to a summer trailing a caravan in Scotland...regardless of the car 😂
The amount of owners of caravans is really low...anyone of those can happily buy a Diesel instead...does not matter.
I have researched this for Germany...48 Mio Cars are currently in use...and "only" 800k caravans.
BUT...those who can afford a Porsche Macan, will most likely tow horses frequently for shorter distances...
A quick scan of the comments and one is left in no doubt of your viewer demographic Pete. 😂
He's also pretty quick on the delete button!!!! Phhhhhhh
I like the looks. But zero interest in ever buying an ev sorry. Each to their own
Doesn't look great, but not completely appalling. It looks like the new Chinese taxis - possibly because it looks like the battery vehicles that are coming out of China. Maybe they should call it the Porsche Macao ?
They should price this in Yuan - then it would make you feel really special when you get some overpriced finance deal on it.?
"How much did you pay for your Macao, Nigel" ... "I pay 2 mirrion for it"
Time was that Porsche had a distinctive look. If this passed me I would assume it was some new Chinese import
I guess it is the consequence of trying to sell cars in the Chinese market….
..but slower..
Not too suprising...a former Chief Designer of Audi/Bentley, is now the Chief Designer of Geely...They learn fast...like korean...after also a former Chief Designer of Audi changed to Kia/Hyundai...success begun.
This doesn’t matter, Porsche is almost finished as is VAG!
No, VAG still makes money...but in capitalism it must be always more money.
AND Porsche is the most successfull brand within VAG and makes a loooot of profit per car.
Porsche makes a lot of profit.
that’s a right plain Jane, uninspiring styling and i’m being kind, and bound to sell like poocakes
That noise, I thought you were on the bridge of the Enterprise. Beam me up Scotty lol
😂😂😂
The fake sci-fi “engine” noises would annoy me.
You can turn them off 👍
@@PetrolPeddefinitely something I’d change then.
Other than that that’s a lovely car.
Still not sold on EVs, but coming round to them.
It's very average. Design is average, it's heavy, only reasonably roomy, sounds like a Star Wars spaceship (not nice), range is really 250 miles at best, and expensive although could be worse. Doesn't set the world on fire does it?
Fair enough. Your not a fan then 😂
Hi Pete, you say that ‘Porsche should have made this 4 years ago’ - I disagree. That would not have been possible at this price point, range and tech. You’re now getting 300-mile range at a much lower price point than Taycan. The tech has also improved greatly with this PPE platform, systems like Innodrive and augmented reality heads-up display are much better than even gen 2 Taycan. This is only this good and possible due to everything Porsche learnt with gen 1 Taycan at a higher price point.
Not really...the underpinning technic for EVs was ready for use about 3 years ago...BUT...the software base on top was a nightmare, which delayed...Macan, Q6, Audi A5/7...etc., too. Audi A5 (formerly known as A4) should have been released two years earlier. Macan and Q6 are using same Software Base.
I'd worry about the residual value of the EV and pick a petrol. Will the Macan depreciate as badly as a Taycan?
@@davidcampbell708 yes
Don't think so...there is no market for used, very expensive sports cars like the Taycan, but there is a huge market for SUVs...
@@josefv-y8m There isn't many nice electric sports cars however the Macan is competing against many electric SUV (as dull as they are), which frankly all look the same but will be much cheaper. What's going to make me go buy a battery powered Porsche over a Kia Sportage
Of course its wrong. Its a fucking cool porsche and they ruined it removing the actual engine
Language???!!!
50% off or more in 2 yrs.
Sounds great to me. I'll buy one in 2026.
And they will still be overpriced.
Its a Austin Allegro.
Turbo😂depreciation😢great white goods 👌
I used depreciation to my advantage. Online filled out make, model, spec and colour I wanted. Got exactly what I wanted, 6 months old, 5000 miles. 46% below new price, from a dealer and delivered to my door.
Looking at that car is rather painful 😒
Playing anti-EV bingo - crossed off 'milk float' and 'white goods', now just just waiting for 'I've seen so many on fire' and 'I get 750 miles per tank in my diesel Volvo' 🤣🤣
😂😂😂
Nearly as fun and St Elon-cult bingo.
That looks like an MG mixed with a Fiat 500 SUV 😆😆..no Porsche enthusiastic will buy that.
A Porsche without an exhaust, the world has gone nuts
They said no one would buy the Macan with the internal combustion engine either. But it saved the company and finances the development of 911s etc.
@craig8638 I said no Porsche enthusiast would buy it. Just mums on school run buying the Macan with the added bonus that it has a Porsche badge on front
You have no idea what you are talking about. I’ve owned three petrol powered Porches in the last 15 years and now I own a Taycan and it is simply brilliant.
@@tonyhilliardukI do know what I'm talking about. Sure the Taycan has instant power but is still a heavier car, I would say the mass depreciation tells me I know more than you do! Unless you know of another reason why I can buy a 8 year old 911 for the same price as a 2 year old Taycan? That had a higher starting price
@@Dan-hy5co apologies I reread what I wrote and it came across as rude. Unintentional. However I am a Porsche enthusiast and I’ve bought one so your statement isn’t accurate.
It’s a lot for a fast fridge…
Hello Pete,what terrible wheels this Macan has !!! it looks very bland !!! it's starting to look like a Tesla ?
Porsche standard wheels are all horrible. Forces you to upgrade £2000. My company carpark is full of leased Taycan on the cheapster wheels, yuk.
1.The frunk is where you keep the charge cables in this car. 2. Why the pointless 'engine noises' ?
As long we have ears as human beings, sound ist something we like...there is bad sound and good sound...If you don't like it, is OK...like we all like electric guitar sound, which is pure fake, too.
I miss the sound in EVs for sporty driving...especially to find a brake point in curves...you always have to look at the speedo instead...or you hear the crying tyres...than you were too fast ;-).
A Hyundai Ioniq5 N has the perfect sound and it even simulates gear changes...
It looks like an over inflated VW Beetle to me from the side
All Porsches look like that
I have to be honest, I don't like it.
Does not matter.I like it
End this soulless ev nightmare
It will only end if people refuse to buy them. Even governments with their whack job policies cannot force people to buy EVs. Cars will become like smartphones - it will be all about the new releases of tech, simplicity of design and battery range. that’s why Tesla and BYD have done well so far.
Thought of losing 20k in value in the first year spoils the experience…
The vat alone would be a £ 15,600 if you bought it privately. EV or ICE. A loss as soon as you pay for it.
Allows more people to access EVs though.
Most new cars are bought by companies and most private buyers buy on pcp so the future value is guaranteed.
@@richardcorns8553 Everything you buy has VAT on it?
What is new about this? Any Luxury car looses a lot of money as soon you have driven the first 100m...
And not even luxury...my Passat GTE was 70k Listprice in 2020...now with 50k km...at 18k dealer price...
No rear wiper? Does Porsche think it never rains in a car park? Or low speed traffic queues? And it was a great place to hide the boot release on the old Macan
You can order one.
Around £8k more than the better looking, faster, more visceral, longer ranged, and much lower depreciating Macan S? Nah!
I've always loved Porsche, but I'm not a fan of the look😢 I think it needs more attitude !!! From the side, it reminds me of the old rav 4 with that side molding.
Mixing Porsche with a milk float is just plain wrong
Unless they call you Ernie !
Not for me. Too expensive, and vanilla.
Rear looks ok front looks like a snow plough attachment🤦♂️
😂😂😂
It’s so plain looking😮 it’s as dull as dishwater🥹
I have plenty of money to buy new cars and have bought many over the years. If the only new vehicle choice is an EV, I will never buy another new vehicle ever again. Simple. There are millions of people who hold the same sentiment as me. Manufacturers will go bust, there is just no other option.
Front view, only a step away from the blandness of a Tesla.
Dead right😢
Yep - they've ruined what was a pretty front end
Shame it looks like a boat
It's hard to justify the Porsche brand tax given that EVs are largely interchangeable.
Lovely looking car, lot of car for the money, but also a lot of money for the car
Wrong wrong wrong, why would you want a car to drive but have no wonderful engine noise when you want it and sit around 30mins to hour or even longer if charging at home than driving the car... makes zero sense and hope porsche put their 6stroke engine into this
Daddy Daddy! The car isn't working properly. Its not making the brum brum noise! When charging at home it takes me 30 secs to charge my EV which is all the time it takes to plug it in and walk away to enjoy my evening. When charging at a motorway services the car is usually charged before I have time to have a pee and buy a coffee.
6 stroke ?!
I like you and your channel. I like that you doing well and enjoying what you are doing but your reviews are becoming increasingly irrelevant due to the cars you are reviewing.😢
Right on the money old boy!. The chappy could bore an a***hole in a wooden horse! "Pip Pip, Tally - Ho" 🏇
I review new cars to market. This is a long awaited car from Porsche. Just because it’s an EV doesn’t mean it irrelevant. Please let me know which cars I have had on the channel recently that are irrelevant? Honestly interested to know 👍
Thanks for a reply, l think the car market in this country, perhaps globally is screwed. Your insight and analysis on that would be more welcome than reviewing a new over priced Porsche which no one will buy. The reality is that pure electric vehicles are at the wrong price point, have insurance issues and there remains a question mark over their batteries in later years. We're all going to have to hang onto our ICE or hybrid vehicles for a lot longer. Manufacturers know this.
@stephenlaw9827 that's your opinion. I have ordered this car and personally can't wait for it, it looks amazing to me.
It looks like a BYD 😅
On initial glance, yes. However, it's stylistically much better executed than a BYD. For a mid size SUV, it has great proportions.. On every single criteria other than cost; there's no contest.
@1972jjb And once it's in the approved used market, it will depreciate rather fast, much like most other used electric vehicles.
In the USA it's sold as a 'Porsche BYD Experience' - and you get 20% off your meal at Panda Express anywhere in the U.S. for 12 months, if you show your Blue Title Document.😋
Looks ..meh 🥴 dull, nothing to make you look back at it.. pure blancmange 😮 .. electric power gets very boring very quickly
Electric power never gets boring. And this is something people use as a daily driver. Nothing beats the smooth quiet linear acceleration of an electric vehicle on a daily basis. I just looked at one today in person. It’s definitely better than it looks in pictures.
@@craig8638live with it for three years as I did. Look, they are very accomplished cars but they take all the emotion out of driving.. it’s just a tool to get you from A to B. You don’t sit at home and think ‘ I’ll just go for a drive ‘
Flop
Recently test drove one Pete and i have now ordered. As a buinsess owner, a no brainer!! The 300 mile range is the game changer, unlike the Taycan. Very impressed the way it drove and will be big enough for the family. Great driving car and is was quiter than i expected. My kids in the back said the view was very limited due to the width of the front seats! That aside, everybody was happy. can't wait to get it next year. Great video as always 👍👍
Id rather watch my washing machine do a wash
@@jonnycsuperplumb765 my washing machine actually sounds better than this on a fast spin 😆
Some similarities in appearance to the Spectrum Maximum Security Vehicle?
It looks alright...but then again so does a Kia Sportage...
The dash on the passenger side is so reflective at the start of the video . Was that noticeable when driving ?
Nope 👎
£68k for the entry EV one with no extras, petrol entry is £56k and will hold it's value way better, there is no point in these expensive EV's if you can even afford one. I do have an EV myself as a company car so I'm not here just bashing EV's and I'm a massive Porsche fan boy. Porsche have already announced this week there cutting EV products through lack of demand so any EV you buy will be worthless within a year from Porsche.
The base EV vs petrol is 1 second quicker to 60mph, 100bhp more power and has a higher spec
@@SDK2006bI don’t think poor BC40 has worked that out. EV sales are up in Europe , Porsche just need to work harder to convince its ownership base and I say ownership base as fan base means nothing to them as they can’t afford the cars 80% of the time? This is a fantastic offering, an absolute rocket that will do the school run with ease, go to football training with kids packed in and go road trips and cost bugger all to fuel/ power and not spew out harmful fumes at street level.
@@SWR112 -yep 👍🏻
You also just described my EV use -school runs, my sons football matches Sat & Sun, MTB and Kayaking trips in Wales & Scotland during the footy off season.
These EV SUV’s are perfect for this - loads of space, cheap running costs and no pollution.
@SDK2006b no pollution might want to check carbon footprint vs petrol car
Company cars started flooding the market earlier this year throwing values all over-the-place. Very few Porches were there but plenty of similar cars of similar performances albeit a sec or slower to 60 were in the mix. If I was in the market with 45k or so I wouldn't be buying a second premium EV when I could get similar performance brand new. There again only idiots buy expensive cars outright unless needing to lose some money for tax reasons. Lease or PCP and stop wasting money buying
Horrible noise....and a Porsche without and soul. Thanks but no thanks.
Love the opening sequence with the rusty whateveritis.
I think if you’re in a Porsche it doesn’t matter how it looks… in a way. It’s a family car for those with some coins. It’s nice.
Was just on the configurator and managed with ease to get the base model to £115k 🤯 Absolute madness as after 2 years it will be circa £45k. This will not last. ICE with bio fuel is the way forward.
It won’t be £45k after 2 years!
My iX was £100k new, and after 3 years they are selling for £50k-£60k
Also, in your post you are:
1) complaining it’s expensive new
2) complaining it’s cheap used
What gives ! 🤔🤯🤦🏼♂️
Bio fuel for everyday use 🤣
That’s telling me you know nothing about how much fuel the world uses on a daily basis !
The US alone uses 376 million gallons of fuel PER DAY.
How is bio fuel production meeting this requirement?!🤔
2024 iX on Cinch £69k
2022 iX on Cinch £44k
2023 iX on Cinch £50k
After 3 years you'd be lucky to realise £35k.
@@54duffield54- that looks like the £70k iX40
Now look up the iX50 💡
Also, your comparing the RRP (which no one pays) to the trade in price (which no one does)
E.g no one buys a Taycan for full RRP, then 2/3 years later gives it away to Cinch.
This only happens in the dreams & minds of social media.
@@SDK2006b I love YT, there is always someone who takes the bate. Enjoy your cars and have a good weekend.
@@MM-xr6tz you call it bait - most call it BS nonsense.
This weighs half a ton more than my ice Macan GTS. You compared the price of the base model EV version to the top of the range Ice version of Macan. It’s hilarious how the speed of ‘refuelling’ is a feature on EVs.
Where is the majority of the weight located on an EV? - in the floor.
Where is the majority of the weight located on your fuel Macan? - hanging ahead of the front wheels.
Drive an EV and you will find weight isn’t so much of an issue because low centre of gravity.
Also, like weight matters in car like this anyway - who is commuting via the Nurburgring in an SUV?
One of the few good bits of tarmac left in Oxfordshire 😂
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Good video, I've just been in a Macan 4 for a week (courtesy car). A lot of what you say is bang on but the range at 100% only showed 286 miles and this translated into about 260 miles in reality. I also got about 42 kWh per 100 miles, mixed driving. On 22" wheels (!) it's comfort was good but not amazing, I left it in normal mostly.The interior makes it a very nice place to spend any amount of time and it's plenty fast enough. The tech and interfaces are miles ahead of my Macan GTS as is the Bose sound system, simple touches like the actual buttons for the heater controls and the central rotary dial for the volume are very well thought out. This was my first experience with an EV and I see nothing green about this 2.3 ton car. But for many I can see it being a big hit if, and only if, you can charge it at home.
I'd have to reinforce my driveway at 2.5 tons, I bet the salesmen hate selling them because when they are 2 to 3 years old who dare tell the customer it's only worth 15 grand
Probably would look better in a different colour, but still prefer an ICE
Your outdoor filming reminds me of Harry's garage sequences
Good job Ped, as ever you hit all the points we want to hear and see ( boot space and leg room are just as important as steering feel!), also showing the Sussex / Hampshire scenery off nicely 😉!
Thanks 🙏🏻
The problem with all these EV’s is it’s not going to be very long before electricity is the most expensive commodity then all EV owners will be crying over their chargers whilst they are waiting for their official charge times to come through, because electricity will be rationed simply because the national grids capacity will be completely surpassed! One may think I’m talking bonkers unfortunately since the crazy ideas of Ed Milliband’s energy policy came to light!
I charge my EV off my home solar for 8-9 months of the year ☀️⚡️👍🏻
Also, off-peak electricity will be cheap for a long time yet
What a load of rubbish ( I hate Labour, so not going to defend them ) if there are restrictions on electricity then fossil fuel cars are also going to struggle as it's used for refining oil and also payments.
Now imagine in the early 90s someone told you population would increase from around 59 million to around 68 million in 2024 and we would all have mobile phones, games consoles, 55"+ TVs , laptops, air fryers , dishwashers ( I can literally go on for hours with the extra electrical items we now have ) someone like yourself would have said " BUT, BUT the grid won't cope and we'll run out of electricity " .
So what happened?🤔 The grid grew with the increase in our energy needs , now fossil fuel cars are going to be on our roads until at least 2040-45 .
So you think the grid won't grow from now until then ??
Most people currently charge at night when electric is cheap and plentiful.
People like yourself seem to think everyone will plug in at 5:30 in a evening 😲 , can you imagine everyone filling up their fossil fuel cars at 5:30 on a Friday? We'd have massive queues and petrol stations would run out.
The fact is people fill up/charge at different times , in 15 years time most EVs will have 400-500+ miles of range ( ten years ago they had around 100 miles range) so most will either just top up for an hour or two of a night or fill up once a week of fortnight.
So really stop talking b/s !
@@davefitzpatrick4841- exactly right 👍🏻😊
The issue isn't getting sufficient supply versus demand. The National Grid have spoken at length about this. The problem is getting the power to where it is needed. Grid connections by the DNOs to the high voltage grid are taking too long delaying the installation of ultra-rapid chargers (although now there are over 700 large hubs in the UK and should be well over 1000 next year).
Polished into blandness, i like the original Macan a lot, curvy sides snd Porsche bug eye front. This has lost that charm. Ioniq 5N has the space and pace snd ‘EV character’ and comes fully loaded.
0-100 in 5 secs……with no emotion or good noises at all. And no where near as fast as its whiplashing levels of depreciation.
Always gets me in car-mode watching Your great reviews - brilliant 🎉!! And also brings a smile on me viewing this…I`m the guy who wants to drive but due to the great entertaining moment in Your reviews, I could think about taking the passengerseat just to have some great car-chat with You 😂🙏!…and the Macan 4? Got mine delivered 2 weeks ago and just love it 😎👊!! Just keep Your great reviews coming Pete 👌!!
Glad you like them!
Love it, but it wouldn't be for me. I'm wanting to get out of SUVs and back into estate cars. I'm hoping that the A6/S6 Etron Avant depreciates into my much more modest budget.
Pete, if this can tow a caravan, what happens when you pull in to recharge? Aren’t all chargers placed so that you park in front of it? What happens to a huge caravan hanging off your rear end?? Also, how does range compare when towing?
Pete, check Harry’s Garage recent video of the Macan and a trailer. He tried to charge it. Quite amusing.
Sounds as if you're looking for a premium, medium size, EV SUV - then this is the one. I think I'm right in saying it's two years later arriving than previously signposted - hopefully Porsche took some of the hard build-quality lessons learned from the Taycan into account before putting this new Macan on sale. However, I'll be sticking with my 400 hp Macan turbo, weighing nearly 400kg less and worth less than half what this EV would cost me. It makes a much better noise too!
Great video and great car, but I think a rear screen wiper should have been fitted to remove rainwater whilst stationary or parked up. I accept that on the move aerodynamics may take over and clear it, but not in town, just an opinion.
I believe it is an option
Really wanted this but any model with half decent spec was approaching £100k £1500 a month! for the same monthly’s I went for ID buzz £260 a month and 992 4s £1,200
Really good review, ill be buying one next year. Currently debating 4 or 4S, but sounds like the 4 is more than enough performance?
That’s the same weight as a diesel Range Rover Sport that my friend has. He claimed that my EV Renault Megane Etech was heavy. Eh no, my car is 700kg lighter than his.
Given the depreciation on taycan what do you think will happen with the full ev Macan?
Your guess is as good as mine 👍
Last week the CFO of Porsche announced that there will be termic and hybrid Macan version as well. It is a fact that Taycan does not sell, Sporttourismo will not be produced anymore and orders for new Macan are far below excpectations. They have gone to far with electric. The reverse manouvre is embarassing though...
"They" are EU bureaucrats not Porsche engineers.
Hello Peter….thank you for this review…but as for what to think, I’m struggling. The old ICE Macan GTS has long been a favourite but I didn’t buy one because of the cost and Hilary found the 18 way sears to be very difficult to use given her arthritis problems. I did configurations on the Macan4 when it was first announced and always landed at £95,000….the test car in white without roof will be impossible to sell! Looks…not sure about the front and it needs colours and better wheels. Driving, riding, performance and practicality are all boxes ticked. The big worries though…depreciation just like the Taycan. I’m starting to think that EV’s only work with super discounts or under £30,000 and the Macan falls apart on those targets. It is the best smallish EV on sale…but I would not buy one yet…a used Taycan or E-Tron GT feels a little “safer” with £40,000+ off the price or more….Hmmm…🤔🤔🤔😬😬😬😃😃😃Richard
Update:£114487 for “ my” 4S version tonight…😰😵💫😵💫😃😃😃😊
Will hope to get it cheap in the used market soon.
well i like it, seems like all porsche's have rocketed in price recently, (based on this and the new 992.2) that bit i don't like, but what i really really DO like is All the Negative comments from the anti EV lobby who are cleary just regurgitating tabloid/clickbait shite and have no real clue because they have never lived with one, hilariously brainwashed
😮Thank you for the kind words. Have you bought your EV or it belongs to a leasing company?
A tasteful roof spoiler and a more Porsche colour would change the look of that car in a flash.
Yep 👍
With a usable 95kWh battery at 2.5 miles per kWh that equates to 237 miles.
I think realistically it would be around 200 miles in the real world.
The dashboard showed 280 miles at 99%.
EVs are fastly becoming undesirable.
PS look at the reviews for CarVertical.... Shocking.
You take a low estimate (237 miles). then deduct even more off it 🤣
I easily get 3.4 miles per kWh (real world use) in my iX, which is larger and heavier. In the summer I’m touching 3.8 miles per kWh.
Obviously if you drive like Lewis Hamilton F1 qualifying everywhere, then you have to expect economy will fall off a cliff
@SDK2006b it's not an "estimate". If it has 95kWh of usable power and it averages 2.5 miles per kWh that's 237 miles. Every EV I've owned has never done near what the manufacturers claimed. This is why EV sales figures are falling. In Germany they're down 67% and France down 38%.
Depreciation is the main factor.
Your £100k iX is worth £35k after three years. No private buyer can afford that kind of loss.
@@54duffield54 - I would love to know where these £35k iX50’s are 🤔
The cheapest 3 year old one on AutoTrader is £53k. No private buyer gets a brand new EV at full RRP, then 3 years later gives it away to Cinch/WBAC. This scenario only exists in social media dream land.
Where is your 2.5 miles per kWh coming from? In this video? If so, then that is already the real world use (driven hard as it’s a press car) and you’re reducing it even further! Porsche quote 380 miles for this Macan, so 300+ is likely very achievable,
Also, my iX achieves the quoted range figure in the summer. Not just me either - the FB group is full of people getting it.
@@54duffield54 Where you get the numbers from? in 2024 it is -29% in Germany...+10 in UK...+9% in France...overall in Europe -5,5%, but only due to Germany as large market...rest of Europe would make it into an increase in growth.
But even in Germany the September was a record sales month...
There are a lot of negative comments toward EVs in general but we must make a transition away from burning hydrocarbons.
No need for oil changes, de-coking engines, expensive maintenence, no dependence on oil producing countries, no toxic emissions so our towns and cities will be much more pleasant to live in.
I'll agree with you that theres a trade off in driving dynamics but there are advantages too, such as 50:50 weight distribution, lower centre of gravity but yes, the weight is a disadvantage but overall there is no reason to drive petrol/diesel anymore.
@@pauladams5673 There is every reason to still drive diesel and petrol. Based on all the issues with EVs. The convenience of just filling up in 3 mins without an app on your phone and the time wasted. On street parking isn't there and never will be, think of streets in Amsterdam or Barcelona, there would be wires everywhere, the range is rubbish and they just aren't as reliable due to hardware and software issues, the battery is more expensive than the car, so second hand sales plummet making the car a disposable item plus many more hurdles. Join us in the real world
@Dan-hy5co I must correct you on a few points; an EV battery will do a lot more miles than most I.C.E. engines. Tesla has data on all the cars it has sold and it shows that the average mileage when the battery has degraded by 10% (the battery has 90% of its original capacity) is 200,000 miles. The battery still has life after that, there are EVs with over 500,000 miles and the electric motor still has its original power - we can't say that about an I.C.E.
You mentioned cables in the street in Amsterdam; actually, the Dutch are very innovative; they've made available multistorey parking, converting old industrial buildings and railway stations with EV charging. This "pool" of EVs charging becomes an energy storage that can be used in the home. This is an incentive for people to park in the garages and not on the street. This frees up space.
As for range, most EVs will do at least 200 miles on a charge, some do double that. 200 miles is about three hours on the motorway and four hours on A & B roads. A 15 minute pit-stop for a pee and a coffee has your EV recharged to continue your journey BUT how often to we drive more than 200 miles in a day?
Above all, we must recognise that we cannot continue to burn hydrocarbons for our energy needs.
If you think about the whole system energy around I.C.E. vehicles, it is shockingly bad in terms of poor energy efficiency, pollution and carbon emissions.
Most pump jacks (the nodding donkeys) and Oil Rigs are powered by diesel.
The energy used to pump oil in the USA alone, is enough to run 35,000 EVs!
By the time the oil is transported, refined transported again to the filling stations, 80% of the energy is lost. Then we burn it in an I.C.E which is about 25% efficient as most of the energy is lost as heat.
Electric motors are more than 90% efficient.
I have a VW ID.3, ie not an expensive EV, it has about 200 miles range in the winter, about 250 in the summer. I can recharge fairly quickly on public chargers but most of the time, I charge at home for 7p per kWh. That's under 2p per mile. To match that, an I.C.E. would have to achieve 318mpg based on £1.40/litre.
EVs are not rubbish, they are smooth, very quiet, they have 160 times less components in the drive train so they are MUCH more reliable than ANY I.C.E., EVs last MUCH longer than any I.C.E. and they cost FAR LESS to run.
@@pauladams5673 Think you've just used a lot of words there with no actual substance behind any of it. You can't be silly enough to think I just meant Amsterdam, I was targeting cities like that, where driveways are scare, think you chose Amsterdam to suit your own narrative there, which is often what you guys do, you knew fully what I meant (I hope). Also talking of oil transported etc is just you blabbering, the consumer does not care at all about that and again you've tried to create something to fit your own narrative and quite frankly none of it even compares to that of Diesel or Petrol, my petrol car currently does 57mpg on £40 to fill tank, that's all anybody wants. Join me in the real world.
@Dan-hy5co The inefficiency of oil as energy is a vital point. You telling me that is "blabbering" suits your narrative. I have given you facts which you can corroborate. You have given me your opinion. I get it, many people don't like change but change is happening. Stop burning stuff!
@@pauladams5673 I find it hilarious that you think nothing is getting burnt in the production or charging of electric cars. These EVs are disposable, you don't see many 5 year old Tesla's on the road, partly because most are on company grants but also because Tesla owners aren't the type to drive around in dated cars. You keep burning stuff to make the newest EV. Clown
My old grizzle...for a SUV where is the spare/emergency tyre. Other than that an excellent sounding vehicle. Petrol v's EV, there is room for both especially in the big cities. Cheers and thanks Pete from DU.
If there was no legislation compelling manufacturers to produce and sell EVs, would Porsche (and the rest) be making them, and what do you think the natural balance/percentage/market demand of EV purchases actually is?
Bring back videos on proper motor cars
Tune in this Friday 👍
@@PetrolPed will do 👌
Not keen on the design, no where near as interesting as the old ICE model (I do not hate EVs!).
As for the wheels, they look like they have been nicked from a VW Beetle!
Hey just wanted to post a comment to say I hope my bike didn't disturb your recording to much I was the lad on the motorbike going up and down the road trying to get some recording footage 😂
Ah no way. Didn’t disturb at all. Bike sounded great 👌
If I had that kind of cash I'd certainly get the Porsche GT all electric touring machine.
Legacy car manufacturer just don't get, it you need it to be family friendly and actually fit humans in comfortable in them, not trust like a chicken for Christmas need more rear space?🤔
According to other reviewers who reviewed this specific car, it is on standard steel suspension. If that is the case, it wouldn’t change by different sportsettings. Or are they mistaken? Furthermore I am interested in your opinion about the standard sound system that is in that specific car. Thank you for your very refreshing down to earth and friendly reviewing style.
A diesel version would make a nice upgrade from my Astra Estate. And with 400Ft lbs of torque . . . I'd have this in my mirrors all the time! 🚔
This lower end Macan 4 has 480 ft/lbs of torque, the Turbo version has 850 ft/lbs
@@SDK2006b Well yes, but I don't want any EV right now.🤔
Lovely car. Just need a lotto win 😂
Ew!....Yuck!
Maybe it's the colour and those wheels but it is butt ugly. IMHO.🤣
Great review Sir Pete. Plan and simple I don’t like the styling much I like the gas powered ones styling a lot better. I think the Macan has always been a good looking midsize suv but this looks to boyish to me.
Good review. Porsche SUVs are not sports cars so electrifying them is not a problem. Just don’t electrify the 911.
thanks for the quick review on this....feel the styling is very bland and lost any distinctive aesthetic.will try and spot one around London soon to judge in the flesh...have no issue with it being an EV or believing that it drives like a Porsche should....
No problem!
If you’ve got the money, the size and spec suit you and you don’t need to sell it early this is the perfect luxury SUV and the best on the market
I'm amazed at all the negativity surrounding this review. I suppose the channel title and the type of followers on here doesn't sit well with electric cars full stop.
I have a Macan 4S on order, coming Dec 6th. I test drove a 4 like this one last weekend, and it's stunning.
I'm on my 3rd Tesla, the current one a Model 3 performance, and this Macan is a million times better.
Haters will always hate, but they are 100% wrong about this not selling.
Orders are strong, and this will generation of Macan will continue to be the best selling car for Porsche period.
Instead of criticising or making unfounded comments, go and test drive one. In the metal, they are very special I can guarantee that. Great video as always, showing brand new current car models. The times are a changing, like it or not.
Thanks for this 👍
I just don't think we as a country is geared up enough for EV's and you have to look at the fact are they really that green are the factory's run solely on eco sourced power no there not so its a bit of a flop in my opinion as most manufacturers are bringing back the diesel variant and slowing the production of EV's down kind of says it all to me...
Its an EV... and noone will buy it especially after the debacle with Taycan
Great lease thou 😂
"No one will buy it" 🤣I literally know 10 people with one on order.
When you understand how new cars are 'bought' then you realise depreciation doesn't matter
Your videos are not just information, they are true art. Thank you for your contribution to the culture on RUclips!🏍💐🐂
i think you have got it quite wrong on pricing vs. its EV peers. all EV peers are pricy and the macan is completly off the charts. for what it is.