He has Cornball commentary. If I hear spicy one more time. Goodness.Amazing how he scams his poor wife out of money on cars. A gallon of milk lasts longer in their fridge than cars on the driveway.
Porsche has agreed to adopt Tesla's NACS plug starting in 2025 in North America, since its delayed why not wait a couple of months, big deal dealing with adapters.
I've owned Jaguar, Lexus, Model S, and bought a Porsche Panamera earlier this year. Porsche build quality is AMAZING, great choice, Kathy. Looking forward to lots of Porsche EV content and less (boring) Tesla content.
Ice grey is a great choice. Yesterday, I test drove Macan 4 and it was in provence. The ice grey was in the showroom, and looked outstanding with leather in blackberry. Whereas, the provence looked somewhat dull in comparison. My order for rear-wheel drive is in ice grey, but leather is in chalk (crayon in UK). I wish I had gone for blackberry.
Macan 4 Electric has a WLTP range (albeit on a generous side) of 380 miles, and the base model has a range of 399 So the difference is 19 miles I think the base rear-wheel drive is a better option if you are not really going off-road much and not tracking it. Also, in snow winter tyres are far more important than 4-wheel drive. Its 0-60 in 5.4 is plenty of power and it has enough torque. I think rear-wheel drive are more fun in general, particularly if you get a chance to really play with them and have the talent to go a bit sideways. The best sports cars are rear-wheel drive for a reason. Also, the base Macan will have the best turn as there is no electric motor assembly upfront, the front axle will weigh less and reduce some inherent friction from the steering.
imho, not ticking the premium package will hurt resale. It includes many features you’re already choosing à la carte so you need to look at the marginal cost. The stock audio is terrible and you want the LED lights.
It probably doesn’t have that much effect on resale. Use market you really don’t see what packages the car has. You just see a list of features. Features affect resale on Japanese cars more than German cars because trim levels are easier identify than individual features
As long as they're selling their cars within under a year, they wouldn't really take much of a hit. Probably zero down, maybe pay 7 months worth of payments and whatever depreciation occurs. It's actually a great idea.
Congrats. The amount of nickel and diming Porsche does for features standard on cars less than half the price is wild. Wouldnt be surprised if Porsche adds back in 1-Pedal drive next year...as a $1,500 option.
Kathy I caught your subtle joke when Dave was explaining your spec sheet and you said you were “ out of spec” and you gave a tiny smile after you said it, it sure Dave caught it.
Congratulations Kathy. It was nice of you to buy Kyle another car. Hopefully you will get to drive it sooner or later. It is a good thing you did not trade in the model y yet. You sill need to drive it for another six months or so. Seriously it is a beautiful car and I hope that you enjoy it.
Congrats cathy! You deserved to break the contract with this car. I hope to see content about it and you guys in the upcoming years! lol dave “I’ve had it for almost 3 weeks!!”
You guys are great! I "should" get my Macan 4 in Ice grey later this week (finger crossed): I specced with a bit more optionals, but in the US you are lucky that so many optionals are already included. It ended up at 93K € (about 85K $), but taxes in Italy are 22%, so the final price was around 105K$. I could get a 10% discount from the dealer though...
The S is better in almost every category. Reliability being the biggest. No other legacy automakers have caught up with Teslas software or infrastructure. And Legacy automaker evs tend to have a lot more issues then their traditional cars do
@@deanprater12If you're buying a car mainly based on software then you might be buying it for the wrong reason. Something like build quality is way more important to me. The driving experience is another. For example some say the MDX is just a fancy Pilot but honestly it's not. The driving experience feels so much better in the MDX. It's worth the extra cost for me. I like the Model S Plaid so don't get me wrong but I would rather get the Taycan Turbo S if they were the same price. The history of Porsche is a big selling point as well.
@@volcalstoneI don’t know where you got the impression that I mentioned one selling point for purchasing a particular car over another. But since we are comparing-Tesla is more reliable, Better performance for your dollar. It’s not even close. Teslas safety ratings are above Porsches, in literally every model and category. Teslas software is above every automaker in the industry. Teslas charging infrastructure is the best. And on top of all. In this particular case you aren’t just buying a Porsche. You’re buying a Porsche EV… Which are notorious for having a lot of issues that their traditional vehicles do not. If you were wanting to purchase a EV. Which clearly, Is the way to go if you like efficiency. There’s only ONE company to chose from. And there are many reasons for that. But not getting ripped off and keeping money in your pocket has got to be my personal favorite. Best bang for your dollar in its class.
@@deanprater12 sure if I wanted an EV with a Civic build quality. Yes I will save a lot of money and just be happy with that alone. The charging infrastructure issue is only in the US and nowhere else. With time this will be fixed. Tesla sure aren't building anymore new superchargers at the same pace as they were a year ago so. Who said Porsches EV are the best? They're nice but they have their own issues as well. Why do you think they have a high depreciation rate for their EVs? To me I'm more impressed with what the Hyundai Group are doing. I'm excited about their Magma line. Hopefully they will introduce more Magma EVs soon.
When you have the Macan in your possession you'll probably one of the first to be able to provide a true side-by-side comparions of the two vehicles. I'd really like to see that video.
Congratulations Kathy on your new car order really like the color it looks amazing. I think I would have added the heads up display, the better stereo and the 360° Camera. Really enjoyed the video very detailed a lot of fun can't wait till we see it, I think you have to write another contract and give that one to Kyle just to let him know that he can't be stealing Mum's Car for 3 months
congrats Kathy! having so many options can be daunting. i'm assuming you guys did the math, cuz even with the options i didn't want, the premium package still ended up being cheaper to select than not.
The Macan is a beautiful car. Congrats on your purchase. I thought the Genesis GV60 was also a great car and the model Y has some significant advantages, but the Macan is a class above the competition.
Congratulations Cathy...Outstanding spec Girl!!! I absolutely love yours and Dave's selections. Will there be any EV tax insentives for the Macan? Good luck with your new whip and safe driving Guys!!! Hugs & Blessings ❤🖤💚
Glad y'all are happy with this choice. IMO Aesthetically, the GTS Macan ICE looks and sounds incredible. It also has the best performance/quality/value matrix. Way too many choices from Porsche- kinda off putting from luxury stand point.
One of the richest families is ordering another car for the next 4-8 weeks before buying the very same Tesla again for the umpteenth time. More news at 8.
@@ervin9805 Seems silly to watch this channel if you don’t like them buying new cars constantly. It’s who Dave is. It’s like people who watch reviews of EVs and then write that they’ll never buy an EV. Fine. Lots of other channels to watch.
A useful reminder of how people’s priorities are different. The only must-have options for me are rear steer and Burmester, so all the “aesthetic” things went by the wayside-and I still ran over budget by a couple of grand.
That’s why I love buying used. Someone will fully spec out my car and put 70k miles on it. Then sell it for half. Love the Tesla approach they all come pretty loaded.
For anyone speccing any Porsche, always try to get the premium package. It may seem expensive but you actually end up only paying 2/3 the price versus when you add in all the features bundled in the package separately. Now in this case they only had the comfort seats and ventilated seats options checked separately so its fine. But if you were to select more of those boxes individually then you're basically missing out on free features by not selecting the premium package (because it has more features for less money)
Great video and congrats Kathy on the new Macan. Looks like a great ride. My wife would love to talk to you about Kathy's Model Y once Kathy gets it from Kyle.
Congratulations! It's really a beautiful car. I've owned my Bolt EV for nearly a year and I had to wait nearly a year after I ordered it to take delivery. I almost bought a used Mercedes at Carmax I got so tired of waiting lol. As for me, I'll never buy an EV without one pedal drive. I have an ice vehicle as well and I actually despise using the brakes in it lol. Porsche could have just added an on or off button and for those customers who don't want one pedal drive they would never have to activate it and never think of it again. It just doesn't make any sense. Excellent video as usual, guys. 🚗 🇺🇸 🔌 ⚡
Remind Kyle to completely clean the car when he gets done with the tests. That includes the seat belts. He might take it to out of spec detailing. Will he pay for your plane flight back?
The wait is frustrating indeed. I got mine on Oct 3rd but I had order it in February. My side, the pork for 2 1/2 months in Baltimore at that time the car had not been EPA and CARB certified could not be sold.
no one pedal driving???? ouch! that has become a must for me! Tesla has forever spoiled me with respect to so many other fine cars. I'm not as flexible as you and Kathy are. But, it's a good thing, because buying my 2023 MY LR AWD was a stretch, and that Porsche would be out of my reach. Still I'm so happy for you and Kathy and hope you enjoy that really cool car (I'm somewhat partial to the aesthetics of the Taycan over the Macan, but it is still a nice, beautiful car, I'm certain you will both love it.
Dog mode, camp mode? Sentry? And I know some have trouble with FSD. I don't. I'm 87. My total driving consists of slowing down manually for single bar security gates.
I'm surprised that you are still waiting for your Macan 4 when dealers here in California have been selling them for about a month. I ordered a 2025 Macan 4S early September that has a dealer delivery date pending of January 17th. My local dealer had me test drive the Macan Turbo S Electric several weeks ago and was hoping I would buy it. Several boxes I have checked were missing from the Turbo S so I said I would wait for my order. When I ordered the car, EPA range had not yet been released but the dealer told me 340 - 360 was expected. When the EPA range of 288 came out, I was very disappointed. Need to see Kyle range test to see if I should stay with Porsche.
I was really surprised when Dave mentioned that Porsche doesn’t do phone as a key. I mean a nearly $90,000 EV not supporting a feature that a $30,000 Tesla has standard seemed odd. Then I googled how much it costs to replace and program a Macan EV key fob and it made a whole lot more sense; at least from Porsche’s perspective :)
Youre 100% correct. I don’t know what it is with Tesla. But any other legacy automaker just doesn’t measure up. I don’t care what car it is. Teslas simplicity and software is unmatched.
Kathy get the car you want. Seems like every time you like something then "stuff happens". LOL Instead of stressing over CCS road tripping just force Dave to get a road tripper and keep the car you want. So your M3P is going to be your road trip car? CCS is still a nightmare. No way I would accept a CCS vehicle unless it is fully supported on Tesla SC's. We still have a few years of infrastructure build before we get anything looking like a road tripper outside of a Tesla SC network. And that is being generous with the timeline. I am happy for Kathy, but it means Dave will be either buying another car for a road tripper or flipping the M3P. Kathy needs to get another contract written up to bind Dave's hands! LOL Tesla needs to step up and upgrade the SC network. Once Porsche is fully supported and works well with NACS then it clearly would be a fine car.
Nice car, but Porsche and Mercedes dollar you to death. Every little thing costs more and money and I would never play their game. If you are into Porsche vehicles, glad you dont mind their pricing games.. but I cannot stomach it. They should just state their price loaded and be done with it, getting economies of scale for all of the options. Go all in like Tesla does and everything becomes more efficient, which is the name of the game.
".... not that we use radar detectors, we don't much, most use Waze..." LOL Of course you *always* drive within the legal speed limit, certainly, but you might need to loan it to a friend who might not ... ;)
This is no surprise 😂 beautiful car !!! But Porsche really gives you options, but so many expensive alacart adds !!! To get what I would like, it cost $100k. I just got a new hyundai Santa Fe Hybrid calligraphy. Not ready for total ev. Porsche really does a beautiful job with build quality.
I thought Kathy looked best sitting behind the wheel of a Tesla. But maybe she'll be able to edit the videos to make it look like she's sitting inside of a Tesla when she's not.
Oh no, the Macan be worth 30k in 5 years, vs the Tesla will be worth 20k+ after 5 years, at 1/2 the cost of the Porsche. So you lose 53k in value with the Porsche. And the Tesla has better tech, sound system, software updates, self driving, overall better software and sentry mode/dashcam built in and one pedal driving. Plus access to all Tesla superchargers. The Tesla is just the no-brainer in this comparison. Im shocked that only looks is the main driver of this decision.
you guys go through cars like most people go through underwear
So ridiculous. I don't think anyone contributed more to global warming than these people switching cars every other month.
@@ari_young this is their business literally and figuratively.
Dude. How long do you wear your underwear?
@@jasonm3780 it’s not though they both have jobs, she’s a music teacher and he is a finance guy
@@doomsday9973 it’s literally what you are commenting on. This is their RUclips channel.
Congrats Kathy! Can you please do a review of the Macan just by yourself? I'd like to hear your thoughts without Dave interrupting you lol
He has Cornball commentary. If I hear spicy one more time. Goodness.Amazing how he scams his poor wife out of money on cars. A gallon of milk lasts longer in their fridge than cars on the driveway.
Dave is the best! Kathy and him are the perfect couple.
@@FordEnthusiast413 No they are not. You know Kathy is way hotter for Dave. Our Dave got really Lucky here.
Porsche has agreed to adopt Tesla's NACS plug starting in 2025 in North America, since its delayed why not wait a couple of months, big deal dealing with adapters.
You know what Dave’s like, he’ll just order the same spec again when the new ports are being fitted and sell the old car.
You wont be able to 800V charge at Tesla site anyways and 400V might be slower than with CCS.
I've owned Jaguar, Lexus, Model S, and bought a Porsche Panamera earlier this year. Porsche build quality is AMAZING, great choice, Kathy. Looking forward to lots of Porsche EV content and less (boring) Tesla content.
Hey, your channel, but hard to relate to a lot of the reviews/comments you make when you change cars every 15 minutes for the next “best” thing.
Ice grey is a great choice.
Yesterday, I test drove Macan 4 and it was in provence. The ice grey was in the showroom, and looked outstanding with leather in blackberry. Whereas, the provence looked somewhat dull in comparison.
My order for rear-wheel drive is in ice grey, but leather is in chalk (crayon in UK). I wish I had gone for blackberry.
Macan 4 Electric has a WLTP range (albeit on a generous side) of 380 miles, and the base model has a range of 399
So the difference is 19 miles
I think the base rear-wheel drive is a better option if you are not really going off-road much and not tracking it. Also, in snow winter tyres are far more important than 4-wheel drive.
Its 0-60 in 5.4 is plenty of power and it has enough torque.
I think rear-wheel drive are more fun in general, particularly if you get a chance to really play with them and have the talent to go a bit sideways. The best sports cars are rear-wheel drive for a reason.
Also, the base Macan will have the best turn as there is no electric motor assembly upfront, the front axle will weigh less and reduce some inherent friction from the steering.
imho, not ticking the premium package will hurt resale. It includes many features you’re already choosing à la carte so you need to look at the marginal cost. The stock audio is terrible and you want the LED lights.
I agree but if they cared about saving money they wouldn’t be switching cars every other day
It probably doesn’t have that much effect on resale. Use market you really don’t see what packages the car has. You just see a list of features. Features affect resale on Japanese cars more than German cars because trim levels are easier identify than individual features
@@andrewdoane6558 he’s gonna take a hit on resale no matter what. This car will plummet in value like all luxury EVs
As long as they're selling their cars within under a year, they wouldn't really take much of a hit. Probably zero down, maybe pay 7 months worth of payments and whatever depreciation occurs. It's actually a great idea.
@@bbgator1I’ve bought many new and used P-cars. This car wouldn’t even show up in my search because I filter on premium package. 🤷🏻♂️
Congrats. The amount of nickel and diming Porsche does for features standard on cars less than half the price is wild. Wouldnt be surprised if Porsche adds back in 1-Pedal drive next year...as a $1,500 option.
Kathy I caught your subtle joke when Dave was explaining your spec sheet and you said you were “ out of spec” and you gave a tiny smile after you said it, it sure Dave caught it.
Kathy: I’m also a music teacher and I totally agree! I drive home in complete silence most days. 😂😂😂
I really appreciated all the details. I'd love to see more of these spec-ing videos. It helps to hear other's rationale and love the discussions.
Congratulations Kathy. It was nice of you to buy Kyle another car. Hopefully you will get to drive it sooner or later. It is a good thing you did not trade in the model y yet. You sill need to drive it for another six months or so. Seriously it is a beautiful car and I hope that you enjoy it.
How much did you lose? All cars depreciate, but EVs more so.
PS, the video is too long, and you interrupt your wife too much.
Annoying
Congratulations Kathy!!! I hope you enjoy it!!
NO WAY! The biggest surprise of the year 😮
This was a done deal after NYAS.
When Dave said he’s had his M3 Performance for 3 weeks, Kathy responds that’s a long time for you, hilarious! As always, drive in good health.
Great news for you guys. The issue with that is that most people are not able to afford it. I for one will never be able to get one. Good luck.
Congrats cathy! You deserved to break the contract with this car. I hope to see content about it and you guys in the upcoming years!
lol dave “I’ve had it for almost 3 weeks!!”
You guys are great! I "should" get my Macan 4 in Ice grey later this week (finger crossed): I specced with a bit more optionals, but in the US you are lucky that so many optionals are already included. It ended up at 93K € (about 85K $), but taxes in Italy are 22%, so the final price was around 105K$. I could get a 10% discount from the dealer though...
That will be hard taking delivery of the car and then giving it to kyle for goodness knows how long... 🤔
Let Kyle buy it. Loan to Cathy. She will drive it for about the time she will get bored 🎉 and sell it if she owned it. Then send it back. $$$ saved
Maybe she'll get visiting rights.
Macan is the only EV tempting me to trade in current model S. When paying $78,000 for a car, many of those options should be included.
The S is better in almost every category. Reliability being the biggest. No other legacy automakers have caught up with Teslas software or infrastructure. And Legacy automaker evs tend to have a lot more issues then their traditional cars do
Never buying another car from a STEALERSHIP!
@@deanprater12If you're buying a car mainly based on software then you might be buying it for the wrong reason. Something like build quality is way more important to me. The driving experience is another.
For example some say the MDX is just a fancy Pilot but honestly it's not. The driving experience feels so much better in the MDX. It's worth the extra cost for me. I like the Model S Plaid so don't get me wrong but I would rather get the Taycan Turbo S if they were the same price. The history of Porsche is a big selling point as well.
@@volcalstoneI don’t know where you got the impression that I mentioned one selling point for purchasing a particular car over another. But since we are comparing-Tesla is more reliable, Better performance for your dollar. It’s not even close. Teslas safety ratings are above Porsches, in literally every model and category. Teslas software is above every automaker in the industry. Teslas charging infrastructure is the best. And on top of all. In this particular case you aren’t just buying a Porsche. You’re buying a Porsche EV… Which are notorious for having a lot of issues that their traditional vehicles do not. If you were wanting to purchase a EV. Which clearly, Is the way to go if you like efficiency. There’s only ONE company to chose from. And there are many reasons for that. But not getting ripped off and keeping money in your pocket has got to be my personal favorite. Best bang for your dollar in its class.
@@deanprater12 sure if I wanted an EV with a Civic build quality. Yes I will save a lot of money and just be happy with that alone. The charging infrastructure issue is only in the US and nowhere else. With time this will be fixed. Tesla sure aren't building anymore new superchargers at the same pace as they were a year ago so.
Who said Porsches EV are the best? They're nice but they have their own issues as well. Why do you think they have a high depreciation rate for their EVs? To me I'm more impressed with what the Hyundai Group are doing. I'm excited about their Magma line. Hopefully they will introduce more Magma EVs soon.
Never saw that coming.... Lol. 😂
That was obvious from the moment she saw one. 🎉🎉🎉 Congratulations Kathy 🥳🌟👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Congrats Kathy! Hopefully you get it soon. Fingers crossed
When you have the Macan in your possession you'll probably one of the first to be able to provide a true side-by-side comparions of the two vehicles. I'd really like to see that video.
Congratulations Kathy on your new car order really like the color it looks amazing. I think I would have added the heads up display, the better stereo and the 360° Camera. Really enjoyed the video very detailed a lot of fun can't wait till we see it, I think you have to write another contract and give that one to Kyle just to let him know that he can't be stealing Mum's Car for 3 months
congrats Kathy! having so many options can be daunting. i'm assuming you guys did the math, cuz even with the options i didn't want, the premium package still ended up being cheaper to select than not.
Congrats Cathy. Glade you love the Porshe. Personally, I would never trade my S for a Porsche. No FSD, too many buttons.
Porsche vs Tesla? No contest Porsche wins hands down every day of the week!
Congrats Cathy🎉🎉🎉
The Macan is a beautiful car. Congrats on your purchase. I thought the Genesis GV60 was also a great car and the model Y has some significant advantages, but the Macan is a class above the competition.
Good on you Kathy, enjoy it when it arrives and DO NOT lend it to OOS anyone to run their tests on, keep it special for you.
Congratulations Cathy...Outstanding spec Girl!!! I absolutely love yours and Dave's selections. Will there be any EV tax insentives for the Macan? Good luck with your new whip and safe driving Guys!!! Hugs & Blessings ❤🖤💚
Does it make economic sense to switch cars like you guys have been doing? Would you please show the financials?
Congrats, Kathy! Let's see some road trips!
Nice one Kathy. Sounds like you must have got a decent discount at Fort Collins Porsche.
Glad y'all are happy with this choice. IMO Aesthetically, the GTS Macan ICE looks and sounds incredible. It also has the best performance/quality/value matrix. Way too many choices from Porsche- kinda off putting from luxury stand point.
Happy wife happy life! Plus I believe you are 3 cars ahead of your wife Dave. 😂
33 cars ahead 😂
One of the richest families is ordering another car for the next 4-8 weeks before buying the very same Tesla again for the umpteenth time. More news at 8.
Gluttony
I was thinking they should set a rule where they made the video without using the word “need”.
you hating!
@@ervin9805 Seems silly to watch this channel if you don’t like them buying new cars constantly. It’s who Dave is. It’s like people who watch reviews of EVs and then write that they’ll never buy an EV. Fine. Lots of other channels to watch.
@@Molishious Yeah, they're probably just pretending to like all these different cars just so they can make more entertaining videos. 🚗🚙🏎🚓🚔
Congrats, hope you get your dream car soon & thanks for the video. 😀
If I had the choice between a winning megabucks ticket and being your family’s car dealer, I’d take the dealership as the more rewarding option
A useful reminder of how people’s priorities are different. The only must-have options for me are rear steer and Burmester, so all the “aesthetic” things went by the wayside-and I still ran over budget by a couple of grand.
That’s why I love buying used. Someone will fully spec out my car and put 70k miles on it. Then sell it for half.
Love the Tesla approach they all come pretty loaded.
Boy you guys like buying cars.
Love you guys. Just be honest with us and tell us that the vehicles you buy are written off because you allow Kyle to use with his business, correct?
@@nomation even if they do that dosent mean it’s “free” or even close to cheap
@@doomsday9973 Agree but I believe they claim it as a business expense sort of like the dealerships do.
@@nomation correct but that’s just a break on your taxes and it’s not the massive savings people think it is
For anyone speccing any Porsche, always try to get the premium package. It may seem expensive but you actually end up only paying 2/3 the price versus when you add in all the features bundled in the package separately. Now in this case they only had the comfort seats and ventilated seats options checked separately so its fine. But if you were to select more of those boxes individually then you're basically missing out on free features by not selecting the premium package (because it has more features for less money)
Great video and congrats Kathy on the new Macan. Looks like a great ride. My wife would love to talk to you about Kathy's Model Y once Kathy gets it from Kyle.
I wonder if Kyle keeps mom cars as long as he keeps dad cars.
@@scottbreseke716 I got to figure Out of Spec Mom gets her car back sooner.
Very exciting and knew it was coming. Very happy day.
Did you check the Thermally and noise insulated glass? How much of an effect does it have on cabin noise?
Booo friggety hoooo, talk about first world problems. Our $100K Porsche is stuck at the dock in TX leaving us with two Teslas. 😃
Congratulations! It's really a beautiful car. I've owned my Bolt EV for nearly a year and I had to wait nearly a year after I ordered it to take delivery. I almost bought a used Mercedes at Carmax I got so tired of waiting lol. As for me, I'll never buy an EV without one pedal drive. I have an ice vehicle as well and I actually despise using the brakes in it lol. Porsche could have just added an on or off button and for those customers who don't want one pedal drive they would never have to activate it and never think of it again. It just doesn't make any sense. Excellent video as usual, guys. 🚗 🇺🇸 🔌 ⚡
You are awesome Cathy! I cannot imagine the pressure to buy a track ready model must be intense from Kyle.
congrats Dave!!
That is a truly silly decision to not tick the premium pkg!
Options? When I was a boy they used to call it "nickel and diming"
Rear side shades for Bailey would have been nice. Also the thermally and acoustic windows would lower the sound level.
They have a white one near me with glacier blue headlights, blue rear logo and blue seat belts that looks amazing. I might buy it.
Remind Kyle to completely clean the car when he gets done with the tests. That includes the seat belts.
He might take it to out of spec detailing.
Will he pay for your plane flight back?
Classic German car manufacturer where you will double the price once you have everything you need...
and it was called "Pedro", a very fitting name indeed.
The wait is frustrating indeed. I got mine on Oct 3rd but I had order it in February. My side, the pork for 2 1/2 months in Baltimore at that time the car had not been EPA and CARB certified could not be sold.
no one pedal driving???? ouch! that has become a must for me! Tesla has forever spoiled me with respect to so many other fine cars. I'm not as flexible as you and Kathy are. But, it's a good thing, because buying my 2023 MY LR AWD was a stretch, and that Porsche would be out of my reach.
Still I'm so happy for you and Kathy and hope you enjoy that really cool car (I'm somewhat partial to the aesthetics of the Taycan over the Macan, but it is still a nice, beautiful car, I'm certain you will both love it.
Why am I not surprised?
Out of the toaster and back into a real car, congratulations!
Your wife is amazing. You’re a lucky guy.
Wasting away money no matter the justification. 😢
Looks like they'll be OK.
Dog mode, camp mode? Sentry? And I know some have trouble with FSD. I don't. I'm 87. My total driving consists of slowing down manually for single bar security gates.
No Dog Mode. Porsche has Poodle Mode.
I'm surprised that you are still waiting for your Macan 4 when dealers here in California have been selling them for about a month. I ordered a 2025 Macan 4S early September that has a dealer delivery date pending of January 17th. My local dealer had me test drive the Macan Turbo S Electric several weeks ago and was hoping I would buy it. Several boxes I have checked were missing from the Turbo S so I said I would wait for my order. When I ordered the car, EPA range had not yet been released but the dealer told me 340 - 360 was expected. When the EPA range of 288 came out, I was very disappointed. Need to see Kyle range test to see if I should stay with Porsche.
Worst kept secret on RUclips lol
I was really surprised when Dave mentioned that Porsche doesn’t do phone as a key. I mean a nearly $90,000 EV not supporting a feature that a $30,000 Tesla has standard seemed odd. Then I googled how much it costs to replace and program a Macan EV key fob and it made a whole lot more sense; at least from Porsche’s perspective :)
I’m curious about the dealer pricing and discounts on your order. Appreciate it if you could share.
Paying full MSRP No discounts of any kind from dealer or corp at all. Are you finding discounts out there from dealers?
You didn't mention the Exterior option of the "Thermally & Noise Insulated Glass (Front and Rear)". Seems like something Kathy might want.😀
I thought about this also but then I found out in the configurator that you can't option this AND the wiper :/
congrats on your new Porsche
nice car don't like how everything is an option in Porsche even the rear wiper
I mean, it's not really that big of a reveal.
Congrats!
My Macan landed in Freeport on 9/12. Don’t know where you got that info about an October opening.
What happened to unreliable CCS charging? Porsche may eventually get a NACs adapter but not soon. Good luck with the new car Kathy!
Curious, did you lease or buy? Wondering if residual issues with EV's make leasing a Porsche a better financial decision?
They can’t lease they would be stuck with the car 2-3 years then. They have to buy
Looking forward to your vid on the shipping holdup.
Congratulations on the Macan, but for me FSD has become so good that I wouldn’t want a car that doesn’t have it.
😂😂😂
Funniest comment here so far 😆
I would rather drive a car like Porsche myself, than tesla to drive it for me 😀
Youre 100% correct. I don’t know what it is with Tesla. But any other legacy automaker just doesn’t measure up. I don’t care what car it is. Teslas simplicity and software is unmatched.
Lol sad qElmo simps....
Shut the front door!
Oak Green Metallic would be my color, nice spec
Congratulations
In Norway the Porsche dealers say you must have full spes if you want to sell it.🙄 Con Grats.
Kathy get the car you want. Seems like every time you like something then "stuff happens". LOL Instead of stressing over CCS road tripping just force Dave to get a road tripper and keep the car you want.
So your M3P is going to be your road trip car? CCS is still a nightmare. No way I would accept a CCS vehicle unless it is fully supported on Tesla SC's. We still have a few years of infrastructure build before we get anything looking like a road tripper outside of a Tesla SC network. And that is being generous with the timeline.
I am happy for Kathy, but it means Dave will be either buying another car for a road tripper or flipping the M3P. Kathy needs to get another contract written up to bind Dave's hands! LOL Tesla needs to step up and upgrade the SC network. Once Porsche is fully supported and works well with NACS then it clearly would be a fine car.
Nice car, but Porsche and Mercedes dollar you to death. Every little thing costs more and money and I would never play their game. If you are into Porsche vehicles, glad you dont mind their pricing games.. but I cannot stomach it. They should just state their price loaded and be done with it, getting economies of scale for all of the options. Go all in like Tesla does and everything becomes more efficient, which is the name of the game.
".... not that we use radar detectors, we don't much, most use Waze..." LOL Of course you *always* drive within the legal speed limit, certainly, but you might need to loan it to a friend who might not ... ;)
I’ve got this beat !!
I am going to trade in my Charger ScatPack for a Charger Hellcat !!
As Kyle would say, “Hell ya brother!”
Dave, congratulations I’m assuming Kathy will waiver the cancellation fee on the model Y contract.
This is no surprise 😂 beautiful car !!! But Porsche really gives you options, but so many expensive alacart adds !!! To get what I would like, it cost $100k. I just got a new hyundai Santa Fe Hybrid calligraphy. Not ready for total ev. Porsche really does a beautiful job with build quality.
The Premium Package was a surprise
You guys are funny, We need to start a Dave Lotto Chart like the Super Bowl so we can get some numbers for the next car:--) Love your show
I think this Macan is going to convert a LOT of people to EV
Oh bless you Kathy
Can't believe a $90K car charges extra for a rear wiper
According to the Cannonball Run movie, what's behind you isn't important.
Looking forward to hearing of your delivery (imminent, I suspect).
The Macan E is a car above Model Y in most metrics.
I thought Kathy looked best sitting behind the wheel of a Tesla. But maybe she'll be able to edit the videos to make it look like she's sitting inside of a Tesla when she's not.
Congrats Kathy ❤😊
Expect massive depreciation!
Oh no, the Macan be worth 30k in 5 years, vs the Tesla will be worth 20k+ after 5 years, at 1/2 the cost of the Porsche. So you lose 53k in value with the Porsche. And the Tesla has better tech, sound system, software updates, self driving, overall better software and sentry mode/dashcam built in and one pedal driving. Plus access to all Tesla superchargers. The Tesla is just the no-brainer in this comparison. Im shocked that only looks is the main driver of this decision.
Less qElmo the better....