feel for ya. spend the money, get it right. it will be painful im sure but in a couple of years you will forget the pain, and still be enjoying the garage. i spent what i thought was alot on sectional insulated electric doors, but i love them.
For the gym equipment… next time- it is much easier to unpack the machines on the lower level and take the parts up… very, very smart decision to bite the bullet and fix the doors. All in all, this is an example of a successful true passion project, expertly planned and executed. Assumptions on the doors width were based on standard width of garage doors, and the omission the doors thickness - among the thousands of small decisions that has to be made in this project- it is easy to see how it was overlooked. There are no perfect projects, but yours will end up close, and will be a joy for years to come.
Absolutely gutted for you about the doors. That terrible feeling when you realised it wasn’t right, is something many of us have felt at some point in our lives. You’ve made the right the decision to sort it out. Such an important project to get absolutely right. 🤩
I know it will be expensive and annoying but you have made the right decision in increasing the door size. With just a few inches either side of a cars mirror it is really worrying when driving in or reversing out as you can easily catch the wing mirrors especially with today’s modern cars. I did it a couple of times and when I bought a bigger car the first thing I did was to take the door frames off and change the door type which instantly gave me an extra 15 cms of width. I can now go in and out of my garage with no concerns at all.
Hi Ped the clear opening is always compromised when using doors on hinges the loss of width varies but still catches us out in our construction company, I've been in the construction industry for over 30 years and it's never without issues, no matter how well you plan work on existing buildings 👍
In such a renovation project there are so many decisions to be taken, it’s almost inevitable that a problem will arise somewhere. Wise decision to bite the bullet and fix the issue now.
@ yep, it would also make automation easier in the future, as the swing open is much longer. It could be done with rams, but they do take ages to open!
The gym looks great Sir Pete and that rough but glad it was a problem you could still have fixed and fit within budget! The dream garage looks amazing can’t wait for the final walk through video of it all!!
If you are going to the expence and bother of redoing the doors, you need to make them at least eight foot which is a comfortable size for a modern car. They're still going to be very tight even with the extra six inches you're adding. Glad to see at the end of this video you've went big.
As someone facing this middle-class problem myself - I noticed your doors in the flooring video and was surprised you hadn't gone at least double + single.
We all make mistakes, learn and move on. When it comes to garage space, the larger and wider the better. It is going to look awesome when you are done. 👍I can't wait to see the next video! 👏
I so feel for you. I've been in that place in my own building projects and its sickening and yet you have to just eat it up and do what's needed. Brilliant that you shared your vulnerability. This is all about being human. Love you mate.
If it makes you feel any better, I once built a chicken coop for my chickens. As the weather was bad, I built it in my garage, in the dry, ready to place in the new run. Now this was a luxury chicken coop, complete with double glazed windows that I'd got hold of for free. When it was finished, I sat back with a bottle of beer admiring my work. The following day I went to move the coop to its new location. After much manoeuvring, measuring of coop, and measuring of doors, it was clear it would never leave the garage in one piece!🙄 luckily, my chickens didn't drive a Porsche!😉
its all about the hinges, using different hinges you could move the pivot point so the door swing out of the way. This would be even easier if you go with floor mounted openers as you can pretty much put the pivot point were you want (was a while ago now, but spent over 10 years of fitting auto gates and garage doors..). However you are right to change them for as wide as you can, never had a complaint the doors were to big from the customer, only the engineers who had to try and make hinges for the extra weight (the wider the door/gate the more side load on the hinge). Also be careful how you do the centre gap to prevent jamming or massive gaps when they change size summer/winter..
I would have went with a wide traditional style roll up garage door with a paint effect to try and match the neighbours garage if that's what you really had in mind These could also have been power operated as an option
So glad you fixed the doors. You would have regretted it every day you used it if you hadn’t. Not surprised, as most houses today are built with garages that are too small as the standard doors date back to Austin A35 and Mini days I think. The last brand-new house I looked at you couldn’t get my Lamborghini Urus in and you could only just get a 911 in. You should have based on American style garages as they are perfect for any car. Great video and great decision.
A few years ago I went from barn doors on our double garage to armoured roller shutters. First off - they look great as they are customed for a residential application. Secondly - my goodness, just 'loosing' the previous frames (a couple of inches each side and above as you have here Ped) - it made putting the cars in the garage so much easier. A pity you have to have a fairly major revision, but good to accept and solve the problem early! Lovely build BTW!
A really good choice would have been doors that slide along the interior walls. What I mean is a door that opens from, for example, right to left and the door then goes along the interior wall on the inside when it opens, it doesn't curl up. It only takes like maybe at most 8 inches from the interior wall and obviously you can't use the walls but it gives you the full size of your opening as useful
OMG Ped i feel your pain when there is so much to do it is so easy to get something wrong. As a pet owner you will understand this I ordered and fitted blinds in the office I had the blinds over my patio door to open as the patio door slide but in the living room the doors we use to let the dogs out I did the blinds as a centre slider and it had bugged me for the past 17 years. So minor compared to your problem but al least you can sort it. Heartbreaking. At least you are doing it I have never changed my blind OMG what a cheap bugger LOL
Oh Ped, I feel your pain. We have two standard size garages and until we bought a Skoda Enyaq they were fine. We measured it several times and knew it would be tight. However after a while of folding in the mirrors we took the decision to make it wider by a brick and a half. Worth every penny for peace of mind for those scrapes. 2.4m wide now, up and over sectional 👍🏻
Hi there. Just watched your video and your problem with the doors standing inside the door aperture. Because you were using butt hinges right on the edge of the door frame, it would always mean the door thickness would reduce the aperture because the doors would sit inside the frame opening. You could have used hinge bands with the hinge pins being positioned on the other side of the door frame as this would throw the doors out clear of the door frame opening. I know you would still have needed to remove the overlapping cladding on the outside, but it would have been a lot easier than starting again. Also if you take my tip, don't paint the doors and cladding with paint as this will be difficult to maintain in the future. Instead, use a "Spirit" based coating as this is much easier to maintain long term.😊
PP, FGS. Though I want an influencer trying to get car makers to stop producing 2.5 tonne 5m x 2m+ road car behemoths, I think building a new garage with doors suitable for 1980s cars or earlier (most but not all) was silly in the extreme. You know (or should) from testing these new behemoths that most are knocking on the door of 2m wide if not wider and now getting close to 5m long. I built a 5 bay 'dream' garage 8 years ago and after much planning, made the doors 3m wide 'just in case' which means my older cars fit easy and even the odd new car (a Taycan loaner for example) is no problem. I used black roller blinds (not sectional), the 77mm slat version retracting into a 30cm square box that contains the motor for lifting them and did not prevent me from adding a 4 post lift. The benefit being easy automation so you don't have to get out in the rain to open them. My barn style garage block also had to fit in with the surroundings, hence the black rollers. The rest of the building looks fantastic so well done on that, just make sure the doors are made as wide as practical because when cars get to 2.2m, you won't want to be struggling with a few cms each side every time to drive one in or out.
O well Pete, I know it’s a big job and upsetting to see what looked like a fantastic job done been taken apart . But I’m with you take it on the chin and have it right because that would drive me mad and I would regret not doing it. I know it’s an extra expense you could do without but over time it will be worth it. Looking forward to seeing the finished place in all its glory.
No problems ONLY solutions. My hubby & myself have done a few builds and this is our saying. It will be right but also make sure there’s enough room (width) for the automated brackets also as they will stick out also ☺️ if they are placed at top of doors then shouldn’t be a problem but if placed in bottom/middle that could also be a problem BUT only solutions 💯
Oh dear, well life is all about the learning experience and any build project will present challenges. You're doing the right thing by making the changes now. In a year or two you won't even remember you stress you're going through now. It will all be worth it... Good luck with the final push...
Change the hinges to have front hinge mounted to front of garage. Door will then recess as the door opens. Leaving full width of opening. Have the hinge set on front wall and have it so it overlaps the wall by 2 inches on each hinge. When door opens it will leave. 2 inch gap. Nothing expensive just need an iron monger to mate the hinges strong enough to cope with the extra 2 inches of leaverage
Oh no what a cock up on a new build..... I'm certainly no expert having only ever built one complete house & 5 bay oak framed garage but that is such a basic thing to make sure its going to work I'm stunned it got finished when clearly it would have looked more or less unusable during the build phase.... Hope it's not too painful to remedy.
Our internal house garage struggled to fit a Ford Fiesta in. It's now been converted to a super sized kitchen as it wasn't useable as a garage. I thought everyone knew how bad standard UK garages were? If only he'd asked viewers for advice first. 😊
Thank goodness you CAN modify the doors and apertures to suit larger vehicles! Better to do it now before the wonderful aging process takes hold to give all that lovely wood the "Why...I've been here forever! Where have YOU been living all this time, council member?" look. The doors and bumpers of all your future test cars can breathe a sigh of relief! Aloha!
7ft wide garage doors are not really enough. That is the standard single garage door but like you say you have to either fold mirrors in or if lucky can just squeeze in, not what you really would want. When I had my garage built I had a 8ft wide garage door and I would still prefer it wider. You want to drive in without pulling a cringe face.
I loved the MG Technogym kit from the 90's cycling team. Bartoli and Bettini were so damn cool with their nonchalant air and Coppi bikes, a golden era of pro cycling
It Happens, We’ve all made mistakes, I should have mentioned the thickness of the doors must be considered when using side hinged doors as we’ve had a similar question but realised during forming of the front elevation. Always go wider the better, and Use a Range Rover as an example when building a garage. There’s no problems only Solutions 😂👍
Thanks for sharing the good times but also the bad… No one was harmed through those miscalculations Pete, most importantly 😁, albeit the extra cost for you, 🙁 but more business for the guys.😊 Love the color of the Cat by the way. The Ruby theme is respected! Ruby 7! 🥰 Cheers, Tom
Garage looks great. LOVE the interior lighting. 👍 No one has ever built a structure and not wished they’d done something different. Luckily here, you can fix it relatively easily. It’s only money at this point. My only (totally non-solicited 😳) suggestion would be to make the doors as wide as possible. Can they be 3 meters wide? If you have to tear down and reconstruct, you might as well push the envelop as far as possible. Regardless, what an incredible project. A little jealous 😜 but super excited and happy for you Pete. 👍
Thanks, Pete. I was looking at fitting side hinged doors to give me more height to the entrance which i was focused on hadnt thought how width would be affected.
Always easy to spot something in hindsight. I bet you've made 100s of 'right' decisions with this build, so having one that was slightly out (but still rectifiable) is pretty damn impressive. Plus, it means we get a few extra videos out of it 😊
Looks like your dream garage is turning into a bit of a nightmare! 😂 In all fairness, we all respect you for holding your hands up, and admitting the mistake, and not blaming anyone else 👍 It’s definitely the right time to put it right. It’s going to look awesome once it’s all done 👏🏻 I must say I have throughly enjoyed this series, and have excitedly clicked on each video when a new one was released 😀 Keep them coming! Best wishes, Victor
Just one more 'problem' : you will have to substantially widen and reinforce every road in the UK and every parking bay marked on all the UK roads due to the ever increasing size and mass of new vehicles! I was about to leave our cat's vet practise yesterday in our Nissan X-trail 2024 when a 'tiny' car pulled in to the next bay; it was an Audi 3 hatchback....
Feel your pain, but absolutely the right thing to do. You'd have regretted not increasing the width, particularly if you ever clipped a mirror. No different to new electrics, always put more sockets in than you think you'll want - I've learnt that mistake. Look forward to the next update.
Fair play to you Ped for recording the modifications including all the mess it has made. I would have been inclined to admit the error AFTER everything had been completed. Superb garage/gym/office I’m not envious in the slightest 😊
Ped. Rather than go to the trouble and expense of altering the doors and opening have you considered Parliament Hinges? They throw the hinge pivot point further out allowing the door leaf to fold to 90 degrees in front of your nice timber cladding. 8 new hinges per opening and its done. At least try it first.
You weren't supposed to blow the bloody doors off! Haha. Don't beat yourself up about it Pete. You live and learn. It's looking amazing! Can't wait to see the final product.
I feel your pain Peter. My double garage has individual doors but there is a slope upwards necessitating folding the mirrors in before entering however it is reversing that is really difficult with little margin for error
Sorry to hear that the doors are not wide enough. Having a barn with the doors just wide enough. This would be priority number one for me if I would build a new garage. I would aim for 2,5 meters. I hope you can change this at reasonable cost.
They say that hindsight is a wonderful thing - I know because I used to work for someone who had a degree in it!!! Fair play to you to accept the deficiency and then actually do something to rectify it otherwise it would always annoy you. Also I think the general look of the doors will be improved significantly because the width will match the height better. So well done Pete for biting the bullet now, as the project is looking fantastic and is very worthy of the extra cost to make it right.
Pete, I have up and over automated. I park my 992 in the garage , and have to fold the mirrors every time. I did get used to it, and I double check every entry and exit. I was dealing with a brick built garage and had no choice. Take care and put a MIRRORS sign on the wall until you have nailed. Good luck.
Not to put another spanner in the works, but did you look at the loading of the Gym equipment on the floor structure? We would usually beef up the structure below if a gym is installed on an upper floor, as you need to consider not only the weight of the equipment, but also for example the impact on the structure when using the running machine etc - I would definitely put an impact mat under the running machine at the very least.
Glad you are able to rectify that relatively easy. I also think aesthetically the wider doors will suit the barn much better. You’ll be enjoying it soon enough😊
I retired from surveying and selling Garage doors in August. Absolute minimum width for modern cars is 2438. Unfortunately with side hung the thickness of the doors also narrow the opening. Although you wont get the look you want, best doors for you would be compact rollers in a wood grain finish fitted behind the openings.
When I saw the door openings I thought they were narrow but remembering how small my mum's garage doors are (which can barely fit a Vauxhall Astra) I thought that's just how they do things in the UK. Your old doors look like they might fit a 1960's Mini or Hillman Imp comfortably but not any modern family car. Your new doors will work a treat and look great. My North American double car garage door is 16ft (4.88m) wide.
Hello Peter. My goodness…I wish now that I had tried harder to warn that the doors were too narrow…I had to scrap the 7’ door on my garage but my luck was that it was brickwork either side so I could make the door ( electric panel sectional door) is 3.5m wide and I thank my stars I did that. However…now it looks transformed! Well done for bravery and biting an expensive bullet. For me it has made the whole job so much better…much more as you wanted! Good work on the gym equipment but I was shouting at the screen when you were too close to the ceiling! It all looks GOOD…now some nice wall fittings! Well done Peter…a bump in the road but it has turned out alright! So pleased for you and Hilary wants Darcy as her Guard Dog if she is ever looking for part time work! 😃😃😃😃😃Richard.
Remembers me the French train company that 10 years ago replace the trains for new ones, and guess what… they were too large to enter the stations… 😂. Result… they had to rebuild hundreds of stations costing millions 😱… so, don’t punish yourself so hard, just take it as a life lesson 👌. Cheers from 🇩🇪.
Or Coventry's swimming baths, opened with great fanfare and then they tried to hold a race, only to be told that the pool needed to be 50 *metres* not 50 *yards* !
Sometimes you miss obvious things staring you in face as you have so much going on. I feel you made the right call to widen doors now. I know i would be more pissed off and regret not doing this mod if by chance i took off a side mirror reversing a car out, i think you would also as if it happened once it could happen twice.
Oh dea4 - what a shame with the doors! So easily done. My folks had an extension; done back in the early 90’s and part of it incorporated a double garage. Standard width on both, with one bay being shorter than the other. Turned out to have similar issue width wise - mirrors had to come in on a 595 eastate. More importantly was the short ba6 -“ plenty of space for your gold, mr H” the architect says. “Masses of room” he says. This was when the foundations were going in. My dad was like “really not sure, but can’t try as you’ve got so much stuff I; the way, I can’t try. Lo and behold, first time he parked car in garage, he literally had to park car with bumper touchin* wall - and garage door was an inch from: back bumper. All because the wall was double layered with breeze blocks and architect had screwed up and not allowed for this.
Had a similar problem a few years ago when I bought a Mustang without checking how wide it was. The garage door frames fitted inside the brick aperture and the car was too wide to fit! Had to get 3x new garage doors which fitted behind the brick openings. £4.5k later the problem was fixed with some new insulated roll over doors! Ouch!
Very honest video as ever. Best to get it sorted now, everything else looks so good. In mitigation, you probably haven't garaged a car for years, so didn't realise that 7 feet isn't wide enough for modern cars. The Fiat 500X I used to have needed its mirrors folding (manually) to get it into my garage, so at that point I converted it to a workshop!
I've just seen on youtube the new brand new Yeti is coming out next year. I Vehicle he walked the test drive it looked absolutely fabulous. I shall wait for your assessment.
Always thought the doors looked narrow……🤣🤣🤣 We had a similar garage/workshop project done a few years back and the advice I was given was put double the number of power sockets you think you need and make your door(s) as wide as possible. Standard doors on garage are too narrow anyway. Don’t beat yourself up though, worth the extra time/ cash to make it right….👍🏻
The whole garage looks absolutely terrific. The door job being fixable will soon be forgotten, everyone makes mistakes except the man that doesn't and we've all met one of those!
I did think it was an optical illusion from the video when the doors went on that they looked narrow. Lesson learnt lol. Measure twice cut once. 👍👍 still looks great Pete.
I feel for you Pete. Frustrating to say the least but the refit will be well worth it. In time, you'll look back and be proud of the whole project you managed and laugh it off about 'door-gate'. Have a good weekend 👍
You should probably put mat's under the treadmill, We have a treadmill on second floor on carpet and without the mats it makes a hell of a racket downstairs. Looks really good, I'd suggest for your desk if you use a laptop to get a docking station and dual 4k monitors and a decent chair, Makes a hell of a difference to the ergonomics when your sat at a desk for hours on end. You must be really proud of what you've got at the end of the project. With the Doors, Sometimes this stuff happens. With all the foresight in the world at least it's minor in comparison to structural issues.
Maybe as before. You will never have heard of it but Bird Brand Barn Paint black it fantastic and very long lasting. Our 18th Century elm frame barn conversion was completely coated in it. It was expensive and tough.😊
Pity you've had to go back a little and modify the doors/ openings, but atleast it's better done now. As mentioned just an oversite from the builder, would've expected them to say that they need enough room when the doors are on and open not just the gap before they're hung. Never mind, it'll look better for it. I remember when I best friend had his garage built they used a double door opening wide enough to fit a Range Rover in it and close it whilst you walked around the car.
Maybe as before. You will never have heard of it but Bird Brand Barn Paint black it fantastic and very long lasting. Our 18th Century elm frame barn conversion was completely coated in it. It was expensive and tough.
feel for ya. spend the money, get it right. it will be painful im sure but in a couple of years you will forget the pain, and still be enjoying the garage. i spent what i thought was alot on sectional insulated electric doors, but i love them.
Yep. That was my thinking too 👍
For the gym equipment… next time- it is much easier to unpack the machines on the lower level and take the parts up… very, very smart decision to bite the bullet and fix the doors. All in all, this is an example of a successful true passion project, expertly planned and executed. Assumptions on the doors width were based on standard width of garage doors, and the omission the doors thickness - among the thousands of small decisions that has to be made in this project- it is easy to see how it was overlooked. There are no perfect projects, but yours will end up close, and will be a joy for years to come.
Complete Muppet with a team of Muppets.
What about the lintel!!😉 Reminiscent of Fawlty Towers, the builders.
No one who made anything hasn't made mistakes. As others have said, you owned up & moved on. It's been an excellent series, thumbs up!
Yes but when you are paying professionals one should be able to expect advice and guidance!
Thanks chap. Just one more video left 👍
Congrats! Garage looks fantastic. Glad its met your expectations and it will be there to enjoy for decades to come! Cheers!
Thank you 🙏🏻
Absolutely gutted for you about the doors. That terrible feeling when you realised it wasn’t right, is something many of us have felt at some point in our lives. You’ve made the right the decision to sort it out. Such an important project to get absolutely right. 🤩
I know it will be expensive and annoying but you have made the right decision in increasing the door size. With just a few inches either side of a cars mirror it is really worrying when driving in or reversing out as you can easily catch the wing mirrors especially with today’s modern cars. I did it a couple of times and when I bought a bigger car the first thing I did was to take the door frames off and change the door type which instantly gave me an extra 15 cms of width. I can now go in and out of my garage with no concerns at all.
Yeah. I’d only need to get it wrong once and that could prove expensive 😬
Hi Ped the clear opening is always compromised when using doors on hinges the loss of width varies but still catches us out in our construction company, I've been in the construction industry for over 30 years and it's never without issues, no matter how well you plan work on existing buildings 👍
In such a renovation project there are so many decisions to be taken, it’s almost inevitable that a problem will arise somewhere. Wise decision to bite the bullet and fix the issue now.
Yep 👍
Yeah I thought the doors were far too narrow weeks ago😢,glad it’s getting rectified 👍
Me too, you would have thought the builders would have realised that a garage is for cars...
Yeah me too 👍
@@PetrolPedthese things happen so don’t beat yourself up and the fix isn’t too terrible. At least it’s not an oak frame..
I'd challenge anyone to admit they haven't made similar mistakes. Don't beat yourself up Pete! The gym looks awesome by the way! 😀
Sounds like you're a Pro Builder 😔
Thanks 🙏🏻
@@andypalin3287 even if he can't get a car in his 'Garage'🤣🤣
You could also use a Parliament hinge on those doors, it will give you 2 inches each side.
I would add these on to his new doors as well. In garage door width, more is better!
@ yep, it would also make automation easier in the future, as the swing open is much longer. It could be done with rams, but they do take ages to open!
The issue will then be fouling on the endstop timber to the cladding.
The gym looks great Sir Pete and that rough but glad it was a problem you could still have fixed and fit within budget! The dream garage looks amazing can’t wait for the final walk through video of it all!!
If you are going to the expence and bother of redoing the doors, you need to make them at least eight foot which is a comfortable size for a modern car. They're still going to be very tight even with the extra six inches you're adding. Glad to see at the end of this video you've went big.
Exactly. I see a third attempt otherwise.
As someone facing this middle-class problem myself - I noticed your doors in the flooring video and was surprised you hadn't gone at least double + single.
Welcome to the world of project management. You’re not the first and you are definitely not the last. All the best.
We all make mistakes, learn and move on. When it comes to garage space, the larger and wider the better. It is going to look awesome when you are done. 👍I can't wait to see the next video! 👏
I hope so!
I so feel for you. I've been in that place in my own building projects and its sickening and yet you have to just eat it up and do what's needed. Brilliant that you shared your vulnerability. This is all about being human. Love you mate.
Always worth over specifying on projects, otherwise you only regret it! I went wider and longer on my garage, by some margin, but glad I did!
Lovely gym setup (he says, sitting on the sofa). Love the idea of using your gym but wanting powered doors 🤣
If it makes you feel any better, I once built a chicken coop for my chickens. As the weather was bad, I built it in my garage, in the dry, ready to place in the new run. Now this was a luxury chicken coop, complete with double glazed windows that I'd got hold of for free. When it was finished, I sat back with a bottle of beer admiring my work. The following day I went to move the coop to its new location. After much manoeuvring, measuring of coop, and measuring of doors, it was clear it would never leave the garage in one piece!🙄 luckily, my chickens didn't drive a Porsche!😉
LOL 😂
its all about the hinges, using different hinges you could move the pivot point so the door swing out of the way. This would be even easier if you go with floor mounted openers as you can pretty much put the pivot point were you want (was a while ago now, but spent over 10 years of fitting auto gates and garage doors..). However you are right to change them for as wide as you can, never had a complaint the doors were to big from the customer, only the engineers who had to try and make hinges for the extra weight (the wider the door/gate the more side load on the hinge). Also be careful how you do the centre gap to prevent jamming or massive gaps when they change size summer/winter..
I would have went with a wide traditional style roll up garage door with a paint effect to try and match the neighbours garage if that's what you really had in mind
These could also have been power operated as an option
Love that you have been honest and showed this…many RUclips sites would have covered this up..
So glad you fixed the doors. You would have regretted it every day you used it if you hadn’t. Not surprised, as most houses today are built with garages that are too small as the standard doors date back to Austin A35 and Mini days I think. The last brand-new house I looked at you couldn’t get my Lamborghini Urus in and you could only just get a 911 in. You should have based on American style garages as they are perfect for any car. Great video and great decision.
A few years ago I went from barn doors on our double garage to armoured roller shutters. First off - they look great as they are customed for a residential application. Secondly - my goodness, just 'loosing' the previous frames (a couple of inches each side and above as you have here Ped) - it made putting the cars in the garage so much easier.
A pity you have to have a fairly major revision, but good to accept and solve the problem early! Lovely build BTW!
A really good choice would have been doors that slide along the interior walls. What I mean is a door that opens from, for example, right to left and the door then goes along the interior wall on the inside when it opens, it doesn't curl up. It only takes like maybe at most 8 inches from the interior wall and obviously you can't use the walls but it gives you the full size of your opening as useful
I thought they looked really narrow it already looks better and more like a garage than a posh shed!!!!!
OMG Ped i feel your pain when there is so much to do it is so easy to get something wrong. As a pet owner you will understand this I ordered and fitted blinds in the office I had the blinds over my patio door to open as the patio door slide but in the living room the doors we use to let the dogs out I did the blinds as a centre slider and it had bugged me for the past 17 years. So minor compared to your problem but al least you can sort it. Heartbreaking. At least you are doing it I have never changed my blind OMG what a cheap bugger LOL
Oh Ped, I feel your pain. We have two standard size garages and until we bought a Skoda Enyaq they were fine. We measured it several times and knew it would be tight. However after a while of folding in the mirrors we took the decision to make it wider by a brick and a half. Worth every penny for peace of mind for those scrapes. 2.4m wide now, up and over sectional 👍🏻
Hi there.
Just watched your video and your problem with the doors standing inside the door aperture.
Because you were using butt hinges right on the edge of the door frame, it would always mean the door thickness would reduce the aperture because the doors would sit inside the frame opening.
You could have used hinge bands with the hinge pins being positioned on the other side of the door frame as this would throw the doors out clear of the door frame opening.
I know you would still have needed to remove the overlapping cladding on the outside, but it would have been a lot easier than starting again.
Also if you take my tip, don't paint the doors and cladding with paint as this will be difficult to maintain in the future. Instead, use a "Spirit" based coating as this is much easier to maintain long term.😊
Spot on decision to sort both doors, a little pain now will be well worth it!! Great space, very jealous of your garage / office set up
PP, FGS. Though I want an influencer trying to get car makers to stop producing 2.5 tonne 5m x 2m+ road car behemoths, I think building a new garage with doors suitable for 1980s cars or earlier (most but not all) was silly in the extreme.
You know (or should) from testing these new behemoths that most are knocking on the door of 2m wide if not wider and now getting close to 5m long. I built a 5 bay 'dream' garage 8 years ago and after much planning, made the doors 3m wide 'just in case' which means my older cars fit easy and even the odd new car (a Taycan loaner for example) is no problem.
I used black roller blinds (not sectional), the 77mm slat version retracting into a 30cm square box that contains the motor for lifting them and did not prevent me from adding a 4 post lift. The benefit being easy automation so you don't have to get out in the rain to open them. My barn style garage block also had to fit in with the surroundings, hence the black rollers.
The rest of the building looks fantastic so well done on that, just make sure the doors are made as wide as practical because when cars get to 2.2m, you won't want to be struggling with a few cms each side every time to drive one in or out.
That huge box going up the stairway reminds me of Laurel and Hardy’s “The Music Box.” If you haven’t seen it, look it up.
Glad you've been able to quickly modify the doors - the new ones will make life a lot easier.
Definitely!
Makes those expensive custom-sized doors look cheap now 😭
O well Pete, I know it’s a big job and upsetting to see what looked like a fantastic job done been taken apart . But I’m with you take it on the chin and have it right because that would drive me mad and I would regret not doing it. I know it’s an extra expense you could do without but over time it will be worth it. Looking forward to seeing the finished place in all its glory.
No problems ONLY solutions. My hubby & myself have done a few builds and this is our saying. It will be right but also make sure there’s enough room (width) for the automated brackets also as they will stick out also ☺️ if they are placed at top of doors then shouldn’t be a problem but if placed in bottom/middle that could also be a problem BUT only solutions 💯
Oh dear, well life is all about the learning experience and any build project will present challenges. You're doing the right thing by making the changes now. In a year or two you won't even remember you stress you're going through now. It will all be worth it... Good luck with the final push...
so glad you were in a position to fix this, and that though this looked/was a big error, it was relatively straightforward to deal with.
Change the hinges to have front hinge mounted to front of garage. Door will then recess as the door opens. Leaving full width of opening. Have the hinge set on front wall and have it so it overlaps the wall by 2 inches on each hinge. When door opens it will leave. 2 inch gap. Nothing expensive just need an iron monger to mate the hinges strong enough to cope with the extra 2 inches of leaverage
Oh no what a cock up on a new build..... I'm certainly no expert having only ever built one complete house & 5 bay oak framed garage but that is such a basic thing to make sure its going to work I'm stunned it got finished when clearly it would have looked more or less unusable during the build phase.... Hope it's not too painful to remedy.
All sorted now 👍
Our internal house garage struggled to fit a Ford Fiesta in. It's now been converted to a super sized kitchen as it wasn't useable as a garage. I thought everyone knew how bad standard UK garages were? If only he'd asked viewers for advice first. 😊
Loving the gym. Just need some mirrors and mats as you say. Sod’s Law on the doors, but as you say best to get it “fixed” now 🙌
Thank goodness you CAN modify the doors and apertures to suit larger vehicles! Better to do it now before the wonderful aging process takes hold to give all that lovely wood the "Why...I've been here forever! Where have YOU been living all this time, council member?" look.
The doors and bumpers of all your future test cars can breathe a sigh of relief! Aloha!
Exactly!
7ft wide garage doors are not really enough. That is the standard single garage door but like you say you have to either fold mirrors in or if lucky can just squeeze in, not what you really would want. When I had my garage built I had a 8ft wide garage door and I would still prefer it wider. You want to drive in without pulling a cringe face.
I loved the MG Technogym kit from the 90's cycling team. Bartoli and Bettini were so damn cool with their nonchalant air and Coppi bikes, a golden era of pro cycling
Nice 👌
It Happens, We’ve all made mistakes, I should have mentioned the thickness of the doors must be considered when using side hinged doors as we’ve had a similar question but realised during forming of the front elevation. Always go wider the better, and Use a Range Rover as an example when building a garage.
There’s no problems only Solutions 😂👍
Thanks for sharing the good times but also the bad… No one was harmed through those miscalculations Pete, most importantly 😁, albeit the extra cost for you, 🙁 but more business for the guys.😊
Love the color of the Cat by the way. The Ruby theme is respected! Ruby 7! 🥰
Cheers, Tom
Garage looks great. LOVE the interior lighting. 👍
No one has ever built a structure and not wished they’d done something different. Luckily here, you can fix it relatively easily. It’s only money at this point.
My only (totally non-solicited 😳) suggestion would be to make the doors as wide as possible. Can they be 3 meters wide?
If you have to tear down and reconstruct, you might as well push the envelop as far as possible.
Regardless, what an incredible project. A little jealous 😜 but super excited and happy for you Pete. 👍
These things happen all of us make mistakes. Glad you’re getting it sorted looks great Pete.
Thanks 🙏🏻
Thanks, Pete. I was looking at fitting side hinged doors to give me more height to the entrance which i was focused on hadnt thought how width would be affected.
Always easy to spot something in hindsight. I bet you've made 100s of 'right' decisions with this build, so having one that was slightly out (but still rectifiable) is pretty damn impressive. Plus, it means we get a few extra videos out of it 😊
Exactly 👍
Looks like your dream garage is turning into a bit of a nightmare! 😂 In all fairness, we all respect you for holding your hands up, and admitting the mistake, and not blaming anyone else 👍 It’s definitely the right time to put it right. It’s going to look awesome once it’s all done 👏🏻 I must say I have throughly enjoyed this series, and have excitedly clicked on each video when a new one was released 😀 Keep them coming! Best wishes, Victor
Thanks great to hear. Thanks for tuning in 👍
Great gym setup!
As far as the doors, mistakes were made. Glad you have a solve, hopefully others will learn for their projects.
Thanks 🙏🏻
Just one more 'problem' : you will have to substantially widen and reinforce every road in the UK and every parking bay marked on all the UK roads due to the ever increasing size and mass of new vehicles! I was about to leave our cat's vet practise yesterday in our Nissan X-trail 2024 when a 'tiny' car pulled in to the next bay; it was an Audi 3 hatchback....
Feel your pain, but absolutely the right thing to do. You'd have regretted not increasing the width, particularly if you ever clipped a mirror.
No different to new electrics, always put more sockets in than you think you'll want - I've learnt that mistake.
Look forward to the next update.
The lighting and flooring look amazing! Can’t win them all!!
Fair play to you Ped for recording the modifications including all the mess it has made. I would have been inclined to admit the error AFTER everything had been completed. Superb garage/gym/office I’m not envious in the slightest 😊
Ped.
Rather than go to the trouble and expense of altering the doors and opening have you considered Parliament Hinges?
They throw the hinge pivot point further out allowing the door leaf to fold to 90 degrees in front of your nice timber cladding.
8 new hinges per opening and its done.
At least try it first.
You weren't supposed to blow the bloody doors off! Haha. Don't beat yourself up about it Pete. You live and learn. It's looking amazing! Can't wait to see the final product.
It's sorted now and you'll be happy with the doors that's the main thing! Again great video!
Thanks 🙏🏻
I feel your pain Peter. My double garage has individual doors but there is a slope upwards necessitating folding the mirrors in before entering however it is reversing that is really difficult with little margin for error
Sorry to hear that the doors are not wide enough. Having a barn with the doors just wide enough. This would be priority number one for me if I would build a new garage. I would aim for 2,5 meters. I hope you can change this at reasonable cost.
They say that hindsight is a wonderful thing - I know because I used to work for someone who had a degree in it!!! Fair play to you to accept the deficiency and then actually do something to rectify it otherwise it would always annoy you. Also I think the general look of the doors will be improved significantly because the width will match the height better. So well done Pete for biting the bullet now, as the project is looking fantastic and is very worthy of the extra cost to make it right.
I agree. It is going to look so much better 👍
These things happen but at the same time I don’t understand how this could happen.
Getting it fixed immediately though, 100% the right decision.
Pete, I have up and over automated. I park my 992 in the garage , and have to fold the mirrors every time. I did get used to it, and I double check every entry and exit. I was dealing with a brick built garage and had no choice. Take care and put a MIRRORS sign on the wall until you have nailed. Good luck.
Not to put another spanner in the works, but did you look at the loading of the Gym equipment on the floor structure? We would usually beef up the structure below if a gym is installed on an upper floor, as you need to consider not only the weight of the equipment, but also for example the impact on the structure when using the running machine etc - I would definitely put an impact mat under the running machine at the very least.
The floor is so over engineered you could land a plane upstairs 😜😂
Glad you are able to rectify that relatively easy. I also think aesthetically the wider doors will suit the barn much better. You’ll be enjoying it soon enough😊
I hope so too!
I retired from surveying and selling Garage doors in August. Absolute minimum width for modern cars is 2438. Unfortunately with side hung the thickness of the doors also narrow the opening. Although you wont get the look you want, best doors for you would be compact rollers in a wood grain finish fitted behind the openings.
It will look awesome, much better with the extra wide doors.👏👏👏
When I saw the door openings I thought they were narrow but remembering how small my mum's garage doors are (which can barely fit a Vauxhall Astra) I thought that's just how they do things in the UK. Your old doors look like they might fit a 1960's Mini or Hillman Imp comfortably but not any modern family car. Your new doors will work a treat and look great. My North American double car garage door is 16ft (4.88m) wide.
Hello Peter. My goodness…I wish now that I had tried harder to warn that the doors were too narrow…I had to scrap the 7’ door on my garage but my luck was that it was brickwork either side so I could make the door ( electric panel sectional door) is 3.5m wide and I thank my stars I did that. However…now it looks transformed! Well done for bravery and biting an expensive bullet. For me it has made the whole job so much better…much more as you wanted! Good work on the gym equipment but I was shouting at the screen when you were too close to the ceiling! It all looks GOOD…now some nice wall fittings! Well done Peter…a bump in the road but it has turned out alright! So pleased for you and Hilary wants Darcy as her Guard Dog if she is ever looking for part time work! 😃😃😃😃😃Richard.
Thanks Richard 🙏🏻
Completely the right decision to make the changes now. You live and learn! It’s going to be amazing #garageenvy!
It is so convenient to have home fitness equipment available whenever you want to use it, rather than going to a gym. Enjoyed the video!
Remembers me the French train company that 10 years ago replace the trains for new ones, and guess what… they were too large to enter the stations… 😂. Result… they had to rebuild hundreds of stations costing millions 😱… so, don’t punish yourself so hard, just take it as a life lesson 👌. Cheers from 🇩🇪.
Oops 🙊
Or Coventry's swimming baths, opened with great fanfare and then they tried to hold a race, only to be told that the pool needed to be 50 *metres* not 50 *yards* !
Don’t worry about the French. BR did the same thing in the late 80s early 90s
It's looking so good and when it's all done you won't give those doors another thought. Crack on! 😉
Sometimes you miss obvious things staring you in face as you have so much going on. I feel you made the right call to widen doors now. I know i would be more pissed off and regret not doing this mod if by chance i took off a side mirror reversing a car out, i think you would also as if it happened once it could happen twice.
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Oh dea4 - what a shame with the doors! So easily done. My folks had an extension; done back in the early 90’s and part of it incorporated a double garage. Standard width on both, with one bay being shorter than the other. Turned out to have similar issue width wise - mirrors had to come in on a 595 eastate. More importantly was the short ba6 -“ plenty of space for your gold, mr H” the architect says. “Masses of room” he says. This was when the foundations were going in. My dad was like “really not sure, but can’t try as you’ve got so much stuff I; the way, I can’t try.
Lo and behold, first time he parked car in garage, he literally had to park car with bumper touchin* wall - and garage door was an inch from: back bumper. All because the wall was double layered with breeze blocks and architect had screwed up and not allowed for this.
You live and learn Pete great project looks great 👍🏻 they have always looked a bit narrow hope the finances don’t take too much of a battering !
Feeling your pain Pete, although it will cost you more money it’s your dream garage. I’ve enjoyed watching the series.
It happens mate! Going to look amazing and a practical space!
Had a similar problem a few years ago when I bought a Mustang without checking how wide it was. The garage door frames fitted inside the brick aperture and the car was too wide to fit! Had to get 3x new garage doors which fitted behind the brick openings. £4.5k later the problem was fixed with some new insulated roll over doors! Ouch!
Very honest video as ever. Best to get it sorted now, everything else looks so good. In mitigation, you probably haven't garaged a car for years, so didn't realise that 7 feet isn't wide enough for modern cars. The Fiat 500X I used to have needed its mirrors folding (manually) to get it into my garage, so at that point I converted it to a workshop!
Yep. Very true 👍
I've just seen on youtube the new brand new Yeti is coming out next year. I Vehicle he walked the test drive it looked absolutely fabulous. I shall wait for your assessment.
Always thought the doors looked narrow……🤣🤣🤣 We had a similar garage/workshop project done a few years back and the advice I was given was put double the number of power sockets you think you need and make your door(s) as wide as possible. Standard doors on garage are too narrow anyway. Don’t beat yourself up though, worth the extra time/ cash to make it right….👍🏻
The whole garage looks absolutely terrific. The door job being fixable will soon be forgotten, everyone makes mistakes except the man that doesn't and we've all met one of those!
I did think it was an optical illusion from the video when the doors went on that they looked narrow. Lesson learnt lol. Measure twice cut once. 👍👍 still looks great Pete.
we all have made mistakes PP, hope the designer/engineer compensates for the rebuild of the door entrance........ good luck
Cars are so much wider now I think it's the right decision. I bought a Corsa specifically because it fits easily into our 1970's integral garage.
Great idea 👍
looks absolutely fantastic we all make mistakes only human so jealous of your build
Thanks Tony 🙏🏻
Don’t add a single 100mm style to each door, add 50mm pieces to both sides of each door, it will look better and less likely to twist
I feel for you Pete. Frustrating to say the least but the refit will be well worth it. In time, you'll look back and be proud of the whole project you managed and laugh it off about 'door-gate'. Have a good weekend 👍
I'm so glad Pete you got it fixed . I thought from the beginning , How do you get a car through the small doors ?.. All is answered now ❤❤
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You gym looks fantastic.The guys have done a great job it won’t be long and it will all be worth the wait 👍
Hope so!
Damn.....who signed that off!! Measure several times before cutting 😅
You should probably put mat's under the treadmill, We have a treadmill on second floor on carpet and without the mats it makes a hell of a racket downstairs. Looks really good, I'd suggest for your desk if you use a laptop to get a docking station and dual 4k monitors and a decent chair, Makes a hell of a difference to the ergonomics when your sat at a desk for hours on end. You must be really proud of what you've got at the end of the project. With the Doors, Sometimes this stuff happens. With all the foresight in the world at least it's minor in comparison to structural issues.
There is a Texhnogym mat under it 👍
Well, with the doors, a mistaking sometimes happened and luckily it fixable Pete. Love the gymsetup
Indeed 👍
Maybe as before. You will never have heard of it but Bird Brand Barn Paint black it fantastic and very long lasting. Our 18th Century elm frame barn conversion was completely coated in it. It was expensive and tough.😊
Pity you've had to go back a little and modify the doors/ openings, but atleast it's better done now. As mentioned just an oversite from the builder, would've expected them to say that they need enough room when the doors are on and open not just the gap before they're hung. Never mind, it'll look better for it. I remember when I best friend had his garage built they used a double door opening wide enough to fit a Range Rover in it and close it whilst you walked around the car.
Maybe as before. You will never have heard of it but Bird Brand Barn Paint black it fantastic and very long lasting. Our 18th Century elm frame barn conversion was completely coated in it. It was expensive and tough.
My first thought as the problem was described was - Change the hinge type It might just get you the few inches you need.