Should You Buy Teslas Used or New?

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  • @alexandercotman2553
    @alexandercotman2553 Год назад +96

    Just bought a used 2021 M3SR+ last Friday. It was a rental with 40K miles and is immaculate. Literally no issues, with not even a scratch inside nor outside. The car was practically factory fresh. The best part was I snagged it for 29.5 likely due to the high miles to car age ratio. Absolutely adore the thing - midnight silver and named her Stormbreaker.

    • @SldOnEmWithDa45
      @SldOnEmWithDa45 Год назад +9

      Love to hear shit like this, nice!!

    • @jtdraco4717
      @jtdraco4717 Год назад +1

      ?? Are you traing to flex??

    • @techyjames1945
      @techyjames1945 Год назад +5

      Congrats as for the 40K miles being high, I say that is low. I have October build 2021 Model Y with 58k.

    • @coruptgovt
      @coruptgovt Год назад +9

      no point, you can get it new for 39k, 7500 tax credit on new tesla's means the cost is 31,500 for a brand new one

    • @cavy95
      @cavy95 11 месяцев назад +2

      Tesla website is selling M3SR for as low as $36,600, + federal $7,500 plus my state tax rebate $3,500. Make buying new with 4 year warranty a no brainer. I just don’t like taking loans to save the earth.

  • @matthewherren
    @matthewherren 25 дней назад

    FYI, the deduction can be taken off at the point of sale. You’ll need a dealer who understands this.

  • @teslasnek
    @teslasnek Год назад +22

    Sure, when we got my wife's 2019 Tesla Model 3, we had to take it into the shop a couple times to get some tiny fit and finish things fixed, but now it has almost 100,000 miles on it and we haven't had to take it in for anything since. If it were a gas car, we would have had to take it in for 20 oil changes by now, multiple smog checks, change the brake pads, change the timing belt, transmission work, etc.

  • @zenfishbike
    @zenfishbike 27 дней назад +1

    Making my head spin. I like a simple life. Sounds like there won't be a Tesla in my future

  • @LPerezDancer
    @LPerezDancer Год назад +9

    it's not so much the weight of the car that wears the tires as the acceleration that tears them up fast

  • @apterachallenge
    @apterachallenge Год назад +11

    It sounds like a Tesla which has been owned for a few years might be a better option - the first owner will have had all the defects fixed by Tesla, so you don't have to worry about it.

  • @kylekiniry6298
    @kylekiniry6298 11 месяцев назад +6

    Great information here. I’m highly considering buying used for the price savings but had multiple questions that this video has answered. Keep up the good work 👍🏽

  • @robfisher3790
    @robfisher3790 Год назад +36

    My parents and my close friend just bought new Model Y's a couple months ago. One from Fremont and one from Austin. Both were absolutely perfect.

    • @robfisher3790
      @robfisher3790 Год назад +14

      @Tailosive EV That's because people only make videos when there are issues. Do a poll on your channel. Prove me wrong.

    • @nathlio
      @nathlio Год назад +4

      You should run a poll to see how many of your viewers had issues on their new Teslas in the last 6 months.

  • @zanshin720
    @zanshin720 8 месяцев назад

    Great information! Very helpful! Thank you!

  • @BryceLovesTech
    @BryceLovesTech Год назад +7

    In 2020 I bought a 2013 P85+ for $29k, best decision ever, the car has been flawless

  • @acuna000
    @acuna000 13 дней назад

    Heavily considering buying used from a dealership. So with the previous versions of battery, my search is narrowed to 2021 models and up - but the ultrasonic sensors I’m not understanding. Which models / years does this fall under? Recommendations are appreciated. Obviously will look in additional details and try to get maximum bang for my buck but when searching for a Tesla. Funny thing is I could be happy with model 3. Y or X and as the buyer I have leverage to be on the lookout

    • @saturn8585
      @saturn8585 День назад

      If you're referring to the newer LFP batteries that were added in the Model 3 keep in mind they started rolling out around mid October 2021. The best way to know quickly if it's an LFP battery or not is to check under charging to see if there's a recommended daily limit.

  • @bensontek
    @bensontek Год назад +10

    If you are getting the IRA rebate, why not get new? Especially with some states knocking off more of the cost. This is a golden age to buy imho.

    • @mostmost1
      @mostmost1 Год назад +6

      I will not owe $3750 in taxes let alone $7500. If you wont owe taxes than its not going to help you this year. Next year they will take the money off at the dealerships.

    • @Nate-vf2js
      @Nate-vf2js Год назад +1

      @@mostmost1 right January u won’t even have to worry about but I’m wait and see by that time the blazer ev will be out

    • @thevillage38
      @thevillage38 Год назад

      @@TailosiveEV Not in Calif., used m3's 2018 -2020 low to high 30k's(some in the 40k range) Pick up a m3sr white/black 37k+tax+registration ok 40k The big $$ is 7500$ max federal credit,plus your state cash/rebate (Calif up to 7500$ Cash) New warranty,better options ,better suspension,heat pump

  • @sharkflower123
    @sharkflower123 Год назад +2

    I bought a Model 3 LR used to get parking sensors

  • @harry15396
    @harry15396 Год назад +6

    It’s not that bad. My Model3 didn’t have a single issue. Guess I got lucky.

  • @PhillProbst
    @PhillProbst Год назад +4

    This question will need to be revisited once the project highland cars start rolling out in a few months.

  • @ConservatEV
    @ConservatEV Год назад +1

    I leased a 2023 Model 3 standard range. My plan is to buy a used same gen Model 3 when this lease expires (can’t buy the lease out of course.) I’ll have accessories that fit it, already have the Wall Charger installed, already have the mobile connector, etc. I’ll know by then what I should be looking for as far as range, hopefully it has a Recurrent Auto report on the battery, etc. White seats are big on my want list. Sat in the black seat on a sunny day… quickly learned that letting your skin touch the black seat is a BAD IDEA on a hot sunny day! Seems the white paint holds up better too. But then again a Model Y with a tow hitch would be nice… I’ll have bought ten different configurations in my mind before then, lol! Best cult I’ve ever been in! 😂

  • @user-hs2yz7rr4b
    @user-hs2yz7rr4b 3 месяца назад

    Great Video. Thanks for all the info.

  • @trayvonlittle9326
    @trayvonlittle9326 6 месяцев назад +2

    I’m torn between a 2021 refresh MS LR (for the newer MCU, heat pump, and the new 170 MPH speed unlock (unfortunately I can’t afford a 2022 with 16gb ram)) and 2022 MYP (mainly for the chrome delete heat pump and lower price tag). I was originally looking to stay under $45k but I found a $54k model s refresh and I’m really considering splurging. I’m also considering a 2021 model 3 SR and 2021 Mach-e GT because they’re cheaper and in all actuality I WFH and don’t drive much.

  • @PhillProbst
    @PhillProbst Год назад

    I'd be lookin' for a way to add back chrome UN-delete ... presumably there's a way via the aftermarket ...

  • @DungNguyen-vn3eu
    @DungNguyen-vn3eu 9 месяцев назад +2

    Id get a used cyber truck in 2 years ..hopefully under 40k

  • @nasirjafri473
    @nasirjafri473 11 месяцев назад +1

    Excellent

  • @techyjames1945
    @techyjames1945 Год назад +2

    I think the update to battery was in 2022, I have October 2021 Model Y and it has the Lead Acid battery.

    • @Harrythehun
      @Harrythehun Год назад +1

      If I don’t remember wrong, China switched in December 2021 for the M3 and MY. My former M3 LR with the new battery and it was built 4:th January 2022.

    • @techyjames1945
      @techyjames1945 Год назад

      @elzo stubbe yes there is 3rd party that supplies a Lithium 12c battery but it’s fairly pricey. About equal to 4 replacement batteries from Tesla. When mine gets to point it needs a replacement I might see if Tesla offers upgrade to the Lithium battery as it is fairly smaller and lighter than the Lead Acid battery.

  • @kyleb8117
    @kyleb8117 Год назад +4

    Tesla's currently my dream car, but emphasis on "dream". I couldn't reasonably afford one until it hits about $30k. Currently, that *could* mean the standard M3 ($38.5k or so with the discount), except that my state's rebate ($7,500) is currently temporarily ended due to lack of funding (and I can't take advantage of tax incentives). There's some that are getting close to $30k and have things like FSD, but honestly, I don't want to compromise. I'm just going to keep searching for a '21 AWD with FSD and hopefully 18" wheels (for the efficiency) that is hopefully near me. I'd fly out and do a road trip home, though, to avoid the transport fee.
    I also just have so many questions about whether things are deal breakers. Mainly I wonder if AWD is really needed for cold weather where there's hills, rain, and snow or if it's fine since Teslas are heavy and the weight is mostly in the back. I also wonder if road noise is really an issue before '21. Sounds like maybe not unless you hit 70 MPH+? I haven't gotten straight answers on these yet. The best I got was a dealer saying I probably should opt for AWD, which I take with a huge grain of salt because they're a salesman at the end of the day.

  • @OtisFlint
    @OtisFlint Год назад +2

    When i bought my M3P the prices were almost the same. I wasn't going to buy used to save $2k.

  • @lachoneu2
    @lachoneu2 Год назад +3

    New only. Simply because they used prices are so high.

  • @nthrixx2388
    @nthrixx2388 Месяц назад

    i found my model 3 long range 2022 with 30k miles for 28,000 out the door at a semi local dealership since then ive driven it 90 miles round trip on my commute every single work day and have had zero issues other than just replacing tires they do go through them fairly quick i buy the goodyear EV tires i forget the exact model but they seem to be the best that ive used at a decent price I got a deal on the last 4 i bought for 1000 usd normally they are 300ea

  • @ALRinaldi
    @ALRinaldi Год назад +16

    In my book, there are two reasons to really go with a used Tesla... One is to get FSD at a reasonable price, two is to get transferrable free supercharging... Good luck trying to find both! They're out there, but they're tough to hunt down...

    • @sethsisneros8369
      @sethsisneros8369 Год назад +1

      What do you mean by transferable free supercharging?

    • @kyleb8117
      @kyleb8117 Год назад +2

      Wasn't the free supercharging specifically on the Model S/X? You'd basically have to find it private party or from a non-Tesla dealer because I'm pretty sure Tesla will immediately wipe it from the car when they get their hands on it. I have yet to see a used Tesla on the site with free premium connectivity or free supercharging.

  • @Luma_29
    @Luma_29 Год назад +4

    We bought a used 2016 Model X last year. It’s a legacy model but it wasn’t as big of a deal as you might think

    • @joonlee8510
      @joonlee8510 Год назад

      Curious how the MX is doing for you?

    • @Luma_29
      @Luma_29 Год назад +1

      @@joonlee8510 It’s holding up fine, but wow the build quality really isn’t what it is today. Tesla’s today don’t have the best build quality as we’re all aware but this Model X was among the first ones built based on year. We plan to sell in hopes of another newer car and plan to buy a Refreshed Model X in the future.

  • @harveysmith4424
    @harveysmith4424 Год назад +2

    If I can find a 2022 MYLR7 with USS then I will buy it in a heartbeat. I'm ready to buy mine, jus trying to hold out to find a used one for a good price, if not I will get a brand new one as its not that much of a price difference now. If so this would be my first new vehicle (and EV)

  • @ebubeawachie
    @ebubeawachie Год назад +3

    That one person with 65% battery health at under 45k miles 😢

  • @ModernCowboy78
    @ModernCowboy78 9 месяцев назад

    Can you buy a lithium-ion battery and replace the 12v battery in the older cars?

  • @letiziasparks2902
    @letiziasparks2902 Год назад +2

    Drew! Fantastic editing on this video with the fuzzy explanation of Tesla new owner documentation time lapse. I found it quite hilarious. I gave up my gas Audi in 2015 and even though there were and are times where I wanted a car, I just rented for my occasional needs.I save so much money not owning a car. But now, I'm holding out for the Aptera. I sometimes take Uber to work and have been riding in many different EV vehicles. I have got say, the Ioniq 5 and 6 are pretty awesome and spacious clean minimal interior as well as the Tesla. I also rode in a Rivan, and I can see why owner's of Rivan's love their car. It's just unrealistically expensive. I'm looking forward to the more variety of choices in the EV market. Is it true Elon bought GM? I wish you and your family well!

    • @kyleb8117
      @kyleb8117 Год назад

      I'm definitely curious about Aptera. Looking forward to when we can get some actual reviews in of final products. It sounds too good to be true, so far. Would really like to see how the final ride quality turns out and what tech/safety features it has.

  • @Bbronson
    @Bbronson 3 месяца назад

    Planning on getting a 2022 LR model 3 by the end of this year/beginning of 2025. Plenty of used 2022 with around 60-80k miles in Florida right around that $25k ev tax credit mark so would be around 22k out the door after rebate/taxes.

  • @saultknutz1166
    @saultknutz1166 Год назад +1

    I bought new for the smell, the lack of scratches (you can't view the car on Tesla's website), the tax credit, and the warranty

  • @danialzara5208
    @danialzara5208 Год назад +1

    Hi, great video I'm deciding to between these two options : 1. brand new model 3 rwd 2023 for 39k. or 2. model 3 2022 with 15k mileage for 37k BUT with enhanced AP. which one you recommend ? both prices are after the tax reduction. I'm personally not into the eap much, amazing to have it though, but I won't pay more than 1000 for it at the moment.

    • @zerocool801
      @zerocool801 Год назад

      New car

    • @coruptgovt
      @coruptgovt Год назад +1

      tax credit is only on new cars under 50k price or used cars under 25k price, so it basically wont work on the used car. go for the new one, no brainer

    • @leonaeffah4000
      @leonaeffah4000 7 месяцев назад

      Get the new one! I got a new one in August and I love it! Plus the tax incentives on it makes it a no brainer!

  • @ianbladuell2694
    @ianbladuell2694 Год назад

    Perhaps!

  • @MikeDeezy_100
    @MikeDeezy_100 Год назад +1

    I bought a used 2020 Tesla last July because of the insane trade-in values going around at the time (Vroom gave me $2k more for my 2019 Subaru Legacy than I paid for it).
    Was the car totally perfect? No, but all but 1 issue was fixed by Tesla under warranty and it's a beautiful car that has a few more miles on it than I would've put on it in the same time frame as I have no commute. If I could've managed to go without a car for a while I could've gotten a great used Tesla with EAP or FSD for less than I paid but the interest rate I have vs what's available now is a small consolation.

  • @diydrivenGA
    @diydrivenGA 9 месяцев назад

    So I'm seeing used M3P for 38k with 15k-35k miles.
    New they are going for 55k+ with tax credit. Is new still the way to go

  • @ChicagoBob123
    @ChicagoBob123 Год назад +4

    Got a new 23 Model 3 standard. Why? The suspension of the older ones was stiff, and the loan rate was not that great. It also rattled and was noisier. If I knew you could swap the shocks, I would have looked harder.

    • @user-wc8cn7pt6m
      @user-wc8cn7pt6m 23 дня назад

      Do you the 2022 will ride smooth compared to your 2023?

    • @ChicagoBob123
      @ChicagoBob123 23 дня назад +1

      @@user-wc8cn7pt6m there was a small suspension change in 2022 and a half that made. The ride a little softer. In 2024 the new model 3 is much better.

  • @mikafiltenborg7572
    @mikafiltenborg7572 Год назад +3

    My next car will be a used Tesla model 3 😎

  • @iCozzh
    @iCozzh Год назад +3

    Buy certified refurbished

  • @quvanilla4486
    @quvanilla4486 Год назад

    great video!

  • @Streeknine
    @Streeknine Год назад +10

    I just picked up a used 2021 Black Model 3 LR AWD from Carmax with 22k mileage. The only issue I found was a leaky tail light. But they promised to fix that.
    I love it, I took it on a 300 mile trip, used a super charger for the first time, spent 8 minutes and then back on the road. 0 issues on the inside either.
    The only thing I found afterwards was no CCS charging, but I plan on trying to upgrade that in the future.

    • @lbyoung8420
      @lbyoung8420 Год назад

      How much did you pay if you don’t mind me asking ?

    • @Streeknine
      @Streeknine Год назад +1

      @@lbyoung8420 It was 43k

    • @lbyoung8420
      @lbyoung8420 Год назад +1

      @@Streeknine appreciate the response!

    • @Streeknine
      @Streeknine Год назад +1

      @@lbyoung8420 I got it at Carmax, I'm not sponsored but they do a good job at guaranteeing things and have fair prices.

    • @lbyoung8420
      @lbyoung8420 Год назад +1

      @@Streeknine That seems very fair, I’ll keep them in mind when it’s time for me to jump on my Tesla purchase.

  • @CowdreyC
    @CowdreyC 2 месяца назад

    where did you get 2-4k for tires?

  • @zackerymcpherson9409
    @zackerymcpherson9409 9 месяцев назад +2

    $2k-$4k for tires?

    • @adamjones7497
      @adamjones7497 3 месяца назад

      Yea. The 20” tires, good ones, are $400/tire. Plus mount and balance, it’s like $1800. More expensive for the 21’

  • @jacobB1290H
    @jacobB1290H Год назад +15

    I bought a used M3P with just 16k miles for $25k less than the msrp. And I basically got FSD free because I negotiated 6k off the price which was the current cost of FSD

    • @chelsiestinson9494
      @chelsiestinson9494 Год назад

      Is it a salvaged title? Have you tried supercharging yet?

    • @jacobB1290H
      @jacobB1290H Год назад +2

      @@chelsiestinson9494 it’s perfect condition. I’ve had it for over 2 years. It’s a 2020 model 3 performance

    • @LoganTheNinja
      @LoganTheNinja Год назад +4

      How’d you negotiate? I thought there was no way to do so

    • @jacobB1290H
      @jacobB1290H Год назад +2

      @@LoganTheNinja it was from a dealer

    • @LoganTheNinja
      @LoganTheNinja Год назад +4

      @@jacobB1290H Ah I see, I had assumed it was from Tesla themselves lol

  • @mr.growngamer1369
    @mr.growngamer1369 Год назад +1

    I’ll never understand why they don’t have techs that do inspections on the vehicles at delivery, BEFORE, customer pickup, rather than leave the responsibility upon the customer. That’s pretty messed up.

    • @OtisFlint
      @OtisFlint Год назад +3

      Because 95% of the customers will never find the defects to begin with.

  • @juspeezy9651
    @juspeezy9651 3 месяца назад

    Just got a 2021 MYLR FSD 50k miles for 33k

  • @nicholasmuni7995
    @nicholasmuni7995 Год назад +2

    It's scary to buy a Tesla with all these considerations.

  • @shaystern2453
    @shaystern2453 Год назад +9

    never buy a new car unless you want to keep the dealer in the green

    • @CreachterZ
      @CreachterZ 3 месяца назад

      Not necessarily true these days with rebates and tax incentives.

  • @jeffbrent
    @jeffbrent 3 месяца назад

    2K to 4K for tires? Whaaaaaaaaaat?

  • @AlecMorris-dv1pu
    @AlecMorris-dv1pu 7 месяцев назад

    Considering buying a 2021 Model 3, 15k miles for $29k. Wondering if that makes more sense than buying new?

    • @LucieVital
      @LucieVital 6 месяцев назад +1

      What did you decide?

    • @user-wc8cn7pt6m
      @user-wc8cn7pt6m 23 дня назад

      I'm in the same boat. [Whether used or new,] the interest rate is a little higher on used [cars] here in Canada, but obviously, new [cars] are more expensive. So that's kind of where I'm at.

  • @L6Jeremy
    @L6Jeremy 5 месяцев назад

    Man this is more prevelant now than ever. Like I kinda want you to revisit this topic. Since Hertz dumped 1/3 of its EV stock, you can get Used model 3s for under 25K with less than 50K miles, that also qualify for the 4,000 federal tax credit

  • @seanthebarber10
    @seanthebarber10 5 месяцев назад

    Is there much drop off in buying a 22 or 21 as opposed to a brand new 24?

    • @jameshasenkamp2866
      @jameshasenkamp2866 Месяц назад

      I went with a a 22 Model Y long range with 30K miles and paid $37K for it. It had both FSD and the acceleration boost included for that price. A comparable new Model Y would cost me $48K for the car, plus the current FSD price of $8K plus however much the acceleration boost costs. The tax credit is definitely something to consider, but ymmv.

  • @VR6NAVYVW
    @VR6NAVYVW 4 месяца назад

    Bro...I live in fremont where the factory is. I know many people that work there. They all say it's a shit show there and the quality of assembly is horrific.

  • @s.h7124
    @s.h7124 Год назад

    I was one of the first ti get Tesla x
    171k took to service 28 times after that they bought back
    I paid for a car to test it good them rather doing it them self
    Ac Ato working
    Door molding came off while driving
    Driver door stop opening
    I had to enter the vehicle from the passenger side
    Back door stick open
    Hydroplane when driving on we road
    If rain little heavier then normal I can see from the windshield due to some design to protect from ultra light radiation what ever the hell it was that was in 2016 new x

    • @LucieVital
      @LucieVital 6 месяцев назад

      Oh my gosh! 😮

  • @ewxlt
    @ewxlt Год назад +4

    $2-$4k in tires??? Have you ever purchased tires before?

    • @CreachterZ
      @CreachterZ 3 месяца назад

      Have you ever purchased tires for a Tesla?

    • @ewxlt
      @ewxlt 3 месяца назад

      @@CreachterZ Yes. For my model 3. Similar to the price of other tires.

    • @ao969
      @ao969 3 месяца назад +1

      yeah i made the mistake of buying new tires from a tesla service center for my 15 ms p85d. never again lol. i buy them off tire rack, they come with roadside hazard warranty and are cheaper..

  • @vojtulee1
    @vojtulee1 Год назад +1

    The more important question is Why should I buy a Tesla if Elon Musk is the CEO and there are many comparative EVs on the market.

    • @thevillage38
      @thevillage38 Год назад

      I know like why watch a video about Tesla,when you have so much hate for Mr Free speech? Strange,but hey i think he's still the richest person in the world without your $ Enjoy your Nazi VW

  • @eduardoig17
    @eduardoig17 Год назад +2

    Tesla does not not "throw in" FSD. The activate it and charge you for it

  • @danielramsey1959
    @danielramsey1959 Год назад +2

    They lack interior style, myself I cannot stand staring at a tablet for an instrument cluster.

  • @herbydeslorge
    @herbydeslorge 6 месяцев назад

    Buy a new one if possible because most dealerships sell the used car for way more money than the new one.

    • @TailosiveEV
      @TailosiveEV  6 месяцев назад

      You can buy used from Tesla

  • @wiredspeaker5658
    @wiredspeaker5658 4 месяца назад

    Now? New all day.

  • @cazu2479
    @cazu2479 6 месяцев назад

    Used

  • @s13dad82
    @s13dad82 Год назад

    A friend just bought a used a used P100D 2019 with just 36k miles for less than 40k at a bmw dealer with a clean title. Good luck selling your Tesla, resale value is so bad.

    • @s13dad82
      @s13dad82 Год назад

      @@TailosiveEV i have no intention of buying one again after it almost killed my family

    • @OtisFlint
      @OtisFlint Год назад

      @@s13dad82 Sure it did

    • @ao969
      @ao969 3 месяца назад

      I have a hard time believing that your friend found a 19 p100d (ms or mx?) with 36k mi for less than $40k..

  • @PickleballMike509
    @PickleballMike509 Год назад +1

    I don’t think they just “throw in” enhanced auto pilot. Pretty sure the vehicles that have that option was already paid for by someone prior

    • @PickleballMike509
      @PickleballMike509 Год назад

      @@TailosiveEV highly doubt that. Then why wouldn’t they do it to ALL the used vehicles…

    • @PickleballMike509
      @PickleballMike509 Год назад

      Your logic doesn’t check out

    • @3D-PrintedCat
      @3D-PrintedCat Год назад

      It's true. As to what vehicles get it versus which don't is up in the air.

    • @rubberroast1598
      @rubberroast1598 8 месяцев назад

      they do enable it on their used fleet but add that option to the price

  • @whiteandnerdytuba
    @whiteandnerdytuba Год назад +3

    How dare you use your Tim apple voice

  • @user-xl8kt4lh6d
    @user-xl8kt4lh6d Год назад

    I agree that Rivian should integrate the NACS connector, but your forgetting one major factor! Jeff Bezos (Amazon) still has major shares of the company. Personally, I think Bezos is willing to sacrifice Rivian and force them to not switch just to take a jab at Musk.
    Look at the delivery van deal. They cannot at this time start selling to other companies. Jim Farley was right that Amazon deal could potentially harm Rivian becoming the EV company they can be.

  • @erickayson588
    @erickayson588 Год назад

    Would you buy a Tesla that's out of warranty?

  • @RobertSmith-di5ll
    @RobertSmith-di5ll 2 дня назад

    only a mug buys a new car - tesla or any other.

  • @_ALPHA_619
    @_ALPHA_619 4 месяца назад

    haha