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- Опубликовано: 25 фев 2022
- Documenting our shop’s first Cummins N14 engine swap on truck #8.
I was not involved in the whole process of the engine swap from mechanical 855ci big cam 400 to electronic N14, but I tried to document what I could during the change over 2 weeks time.
This video walks you through the involved diagnosis, rationale behind swapping to electronic, the fabrication involved, & what donor trucks we used in the process.
You’ll also see the initial startup, first test drive, loud straight pipe driving with Jake brakes, and the engine’s first load to haul.
Filmed & edited by Philip West @FlannelPhilip
Music used with permission by Epidemic Sound
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I definitely give you guys credit for making a mechanical truck into a electronic n 14!
Pretty awesome when the boss is smiling like a little kid.
I’m not a trucker but if I did I would want it to sound like that. What a beautiful noise.
The red head cummins is the pick of them. Not that I have any complaints about the 3406 B or E. I do love a 2 stroke detroit but only to hear it drive past.
An N14 is one of the best motors you could possibly put in that thing. Cheap parts and great power and fuel economy. A 60 series is almost as good but nothing beats that Cummins torque.
I love the N14 and the celect plus! Series 60 is good but they don’t last nearly as long. Also, to me series 60 sounds, some of the cats, but nothing beats the sound of a Cummins. Even the IsX or X15 deleted sound so good.
@@jacob2483 you’ve got it the wrong way around , a series 60 will far outlast an N14. While not as much power I personally think they sound really good, maybe even the best.
@@keyboard101101 Maybe I am wrong; I just know we had a 12.7 that didn’t last super long, and heard that from a mechanic as well. However, I would say that ultimately an engines lifespan is only as good as the operator and maintenance treating it properly. I like a lot of engines, I slip seat with our company trucks, we have a few N14s, a couple isx, one 12.7 Detroit with a 500, and a pete I’m working on with a c-12 cat. So I’m really not super partial to a brand, on anything, whoever does it best, give me the best I can get. I love driving the 60 series and it’s great on mpg and you’re right they sound good. My favorite sounding engine though would have to be a straight piped isx or x15 Cummins at least IMO. On many of the new trucks though they are running Cummins, so if I was to be an OTR driver, and had a choice or just owned my own truck I’d go with Cummins because finding a mechanic and parts is probably going to be easier than finding a good mechanic to work on a Detroit or CAT.
@@jacob2483 yup Jacob I agree ISX and X15 series straight pipe are my favorites as well VGT or non vgt
@@qsk2348 yeah I only know this because I watched high strung vlogs “Dakota” and I must say his truck is the best I have ever heard. I didn’t realize the sound of the isx on our trucks because they are muffled, actually still sound good, but once you get the True Tone of the engine with a straight pipe, ah music to my ears. The 3406, n14, my c12, series 60 sound great no doubt. However, I just absolutely love that deep isx/x15 sound.
Those jakes sound awesome
This exactly what I did. I have a 91 KW T800 and it came with a Big Cam 350 Cummins. I did a complete Overhaul and it would still leak all over the place and overheat. Now I have a 91 N14 and boy you can definitely feel a huge difference 💪🏼
Mechanical n14?
@@marlinpetre788 Yes no computer
i love the Jakes it sounds incredible
i loved the n14 460 turned up to 500 in dump trucks limited to 70k. on the mountains it held momentum very well.often only dropping 1 gear on a 9 speed.the 3406 b guys would still walk away though.but they were smoking like a freight train & i wasnt.
love n14 to me the only competition for a 3406e. love this content. i completely agree with you when you talked about earlier e motors without having emissions being the best of both worlds
Kta19 crushes both lol
That was a great build i would like to swap my Big cam out for a N14. This just inspired me
Find a Mechanical n14
Nothing better than team work!
I have the same setup well almost mine was a 370hp 435hp esp ,when torquing it would ramp up from 370 to 435 and i changed injectors turbo and ecm to 525hp and it has been a beast for more than 11years still running solid,and a haul a 10,000 gal fuel tanker in puerto rico lots of up hills
Well done guys big project.
I’ll never get enough of hearing a good sounding truck motor, growing up riding an old Mack hauling coal may have had something to do with it lol 🐾🇺🇸✌️
Awesome fun video mate. Congratulations on a successful build and install, well done to all involved 🤙
I have an 86 W900B that I’m swapping the big cam 400 out for an N14. I hope it turns out as well as yours did! Great job!
Love it! Very cool and badass, the motor seems to burn very clean.
The best patent ever to be patented in the book of patents was the Cummins . Oh ! That shop is BOSS !
You'll love it.
I'm about to swap an n14 into my old Pete.
It's in a Volvo right now but when I was running that truck I loved that engine, never had any problems out of it.
I am so happy for you
I felt the same happiness 😊 with the sound of the Jake brake who woo
I did quite a few of these 25 years ago. I put Celect+ Cummins in 1980's International 9300's. In 1996 International used what they called an overlay harness to transition from Celect to Celectrt+. This took care of the electronics. I still have two of the converted ones sitting in the back lot in case I ever want to do another conversion. We are currently installing Celect+ in trucks I buy with owrn out ISX. The engine mounts are the same on an N14 and an ISX. I use the radiator for a 2003 International or earlier that had No EGR. The EGR radiator is about 6" taller so we put a spacer under theold radiator mounts to raise it up to where the fan is in the right position in the shroud. I can buy Internationals with a hole in the block or oil in coolant ISX for almost nothing. It is much cheaper to install a rebuilt N14 than rebuild an ISX and my seasoned drivers like the N14s.
Love those B models, my boss bought 4 84 B models with air start from Zenith!
That truck engine sound good
I have a 85 like that truck and plan in putting a spare n14 in it!! Thank you for the video!! Taking out the old cpl531-350 out!! Thanks!!
This sets the standard for how a truck should sound
Rob Peter to pay Paul. My grandmother used that phrase a long time ago. Haven’t heard someone else use it in at least 30 years or more.
Still say that phrase 2day!!!! 💯😎
That first start smoke is the smoke you don't mind hanging around in the shop for awhile
I F’N LOVE IT BROTHER !!!! KEEP THE VIDEOS COMIN !!! ❤️😎
OMG what an amazing sound coming out of those pipes, accel or deceleration... What a chug-a-lug, lug... Vrooom, Braaaap!!!!. Thump thump thump thump thump.
Btw, love what your promoting on the flannel channel. You have some REAL mechanics working with you to decipher that all yellow wiring harness from a freight shaker! lol
Just swapped out an electronic 8V92 for a 400 BC3, just needed the throttle pedal!
I thought about doing this with my 88 w900b. 3406b is locked up solid. Not sure if i want to rebuild it or swap a big can in or go n14
I have a red top 411 cummins that I bought from a Canadian TV show.....ice road trucker,
It did well while being on the road, that motor just runs no problem and it profited so much I ran that thing till I bought other trucks, it's in a international 9400i and it's now my spare truck,don't think I will ever sell it......
What a sound....
Beautiful sound, just like music 🎶. N-14 is the best ever 💯🔥😀
Sounds great and that's a great truck! As a former Service Manager for a fleet of mainly N14's back in the late-nineties, my one caution would be to make sure you keep close watch over the SCA level in the coolant and add your additives. It's a great motor, but you certainly don't want your liners to cavitate, and we did have that happen a couple of times!!
Thanks for the info! I’ll grab some of those.
Additives to the coolant? Can you expkinh a little more please. What kind of additive would you recommend ?
Thanks una advance.
@@Freyes2017 The Fleetguard coolant filters we used and changed out during normal maintenance back then had a fresh "charge" of additive in the filter, and then you'd monitor between coolant filter changes what the additive strength was. The liquid supplemental additive is "DCA4." Cummins "Fleetguard" used to carry it, but I don't think they do any longer, although it's still available through 3rd party groups, (I believe Baldwin sells it.) Cummins used to also sell test strips (litmus-type strips,) that would measure the amount of additive to add, (as the additive would dissipate after running for a while, and you'd need to recharge it,) but we found the recommended level usually wasn't enough, and would add extra to keep the liners from cavitating. Try "Googling" DCA4 for results!
Excelente 👌 👌 👌
Gr8 content & Gr8 build!!! 💯😎
Great video mate 👍 what a sound
Love the way she sounds👍👍
No rolling coal n14 awesome awesome to hear tht motor 👌
Nothing like takin a ride after all that work
Crazy how y’all made this happen in a short timeframe, meanwhile my mechanic has a thumb up his butt and truck has been down since December because of parts and idk what else unfortunately. GA is the worst place to build/have a truck 😵💫. I need a truck from yall lol. Subscribed
Great Job
Great engine... Head bolts tend to break.. cab overs are for 2 strokes anyways.
Totally awesome 😂😂
AWESOME WORK VIDEO!!!!👌👏💪💯
Sounds so freakin sweet 😂😂
OUTSTANDING. ! WELL DONE. 🇺🇸 🏆👍
Congratulations!!!
The Best!!
God bless you
Plenty n14 here in jamaica 🇯🇲 good motor
Sounds sweet love it. Keep up the videos brother
If I remember right old school Jerry used drive for Umthun out of Eagle Grove Ia I drive for them about the same time
Damn she sounds so good🤯🤯🤯
Very cool sounds great.
Sounds great!!
Phil, love the work, love what your doing, most of all, love your boldness in God, keep walking in Jesus, He always wins.
I have a Maxxforce 13 that was pressuring the coolant system. Replaced the head now it’s just slowly eating coolant going out the exhaust. Not sure what the problem is, but I’m sick of it lol.
that truck sounds like the old S-10 i had , seat out of a dodge dart , camper shell dodge wheels chevy capris , center console ford van , cb and kicker ford dump truck
renenate has a mod like this lol. nice irl truck though my man. sweeet
Sounds great!
N-14 for me is the best of the best i love
Now THATS an intro! lol
ECM REBUILD or Repair good place you would recommend ?
The ole rig sounds great!,
Commenting on the video for the algorithm
How much did you guys source that engine for? The N14
525 n14 is the best I have ever driven
What was the cpl number on the n14? That’s awesome someone has a video of turning a “ black top” n14 up to 500hp. I would like to do that
Are they keeping the same transmission they got in there now or using the other transmission
Already has the updated 13spd trans
Nice video
Can someone please tell me what's the part number for that Holset HT60 turbo?!!!
What kind of end dump trailer is that?
Bruce @ Pittsburgh Power has sum Gr8 high performance parts that will help the N-14 with fuel mileage & power!!!!
@ Flannel Philip Do you go with Cummins or after market rebuild kit?
Must have had that big cam turned up a little too much to bend them pushrods and scuff up that cam follower and cam lol. Or the driver didn't know how to drive an old mechanical motor that's been turned up. Because that's what will happen when you don't have a computer regulating your fuel pressure
Or some one was trying to take off in 3rd or 4th gear, due to all the power
Starting off on 3rd or 4 has nothing to do with that that's done by someone putting that big cam to the mat shifting all the time and rodding the hell out of it that's how you bend a pushrod and ruin a cam on a big cam and if ya don't know what I mean then you obviously don't know how the fuel system on a big cam works
35psi of boost my truck only has 18psi of boost, lol I need that turbo part number
What kind of turbo & injectors did y’all go with? I’m looking to upgrade my red top as well.
Hell I'm running a k dub that came with a n14 and the damn cruise don't work
Someone please tell me what's the part number for that turbo
Gee she sounds tough.
Did that engine leave someone stranded on the road? Must have sounded awful?
Please can you tell me where you buy your turbocharger from?!...
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@Flannel Philip what serial number or CPL did you guys use for that N14
I have a 2025/2592 and a 1844-celect 500 the 2025-525 is by fare the best!!!
Do the engine mounts cross?
Convert it to a mechanical n14 with a Cbrake
👍
Would you be interested in selling the door panels from that fld ? I’m extremely interested
Lol yeah my Classic XL is missing door panels and it looks horrendous. I’m probably going to just put some mudflaps on there and call it a day.
@@markm0000 man , I can’t find the them no where . I had someone brake into my truck and all they took was the damn door panels
@@rdavila26 New ones are $500 online. Used ones probably go for just as much. I hate the look of leather walls I’d rather have plastic and actual insulation.
How long did this process take?
How much wrench time
How many miles were on the big cam?
Freightliner dies. Kenworth lives on.
Without music please. Cummins sound only 🙏
Nothing better than team work!