You don’t know what enlightenment is | Krishnamurti
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I can feel the peace and quiet when he goes quiet 🥰❤️
We miss these kinds of conversation today... Totally loved it
whoever has understood this man properly, has never have come back to listen even to him again!!!!
Why not?
@@petrasant5495 because , then you would have depended on him ...
@@user-ri8hd4bo8k Questo è una tua opinione niente di più.
I think what you are saying is that whoever understood it , is who does it immediately and forever more.
👍🏻🌍 And he doesn't need to hear it again. Of couse
Thats not a good business model if your best customers never come back 😂
J krishna ji overflows with love and compassion💞💕❤
In the absence of" I", enlightenment is possible.
There is no opponent, because the word “I” does not exist.
- Bruce Lee
The experiencer is experienced when you get enlightenment
Rare thoughtful n great analysis
Ура!
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To clarify the answer for the last question, it is you who is also responsible for your responsibilities.
Is there a part 2
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Would anyone can share the full video link of this conversation please?
Link always available in the video description,
Excellent who are the other two gentlemen in this video?
J. Krishnamurti, David Bohm, John Hidley, Rupert Sheldrake
Who is he speaking with? Im not sure but the fellow with glasses looks very much like someone I saw in another video, where they appear to be exploring speaking in tongues and automatic writing. I just assumed it happened at Esalon but I dont know. Rationally exploring the irrational needs to be done.
The answer seems to be incomplete.Include more of it.
Check video description
You didn't understand krishnamurti then
Full interview link ?
In the description
Title: "Radiant Essence: The Energy of Enlightenment"
Intro:
Embarking on a journey through realms unseen,
This poem explores the energy that lies within.
A glimpse into the enlightened souls' profound might,
Their radiant essence, shining with divine light.
Verse 1:
Enlightened souls, their energy pure and bright,
Resonating with cosmic harmony, an ethereal delight.
Untouched by ego's burdens, they gracefully glow,
A vibrant flow of love and wisdom they bestow.
Verse 2:
Their presence hums gently, a serene melody,
Igniting souls' awakening, setting spirits free.
In their aura, a magnetic pull is felt,
A sacred space where hearts and minds are compelled.
Verse 3:
Ordinary souls, entangled in life's chaotic web,
Their energy clouded, like a foggy neb.
Desires, fears, illusions taint their vibrant core,
Their vibrations fluctuate, tossed by life's lore.
Verse 4:
But the enlightened ones, a beacon in the night,
Uplifting, inspiring, casting shadows in their light.
Their energy, a symphony of celestial tones,
Guiding seekers' hearts to their spiritual thrones.
Verse 5:
Harmonizing with the universe's grand design,
Their energy flows, like rivers of divine.
Clarity, truth, and profound stillness they bring,
Awakening dormant sparks, like the first breath of spring.
Verse 6:
In their presence, a tranquil serenity thrives,
A gateway to the soul, where true essence arrives.
A gentle hum, whispering ancient truths untold,
Their energy, a balm for spirits weary and cold.
Verse 7:
Radiating brilliance, like a radiant sun,
Enlightened beings illuminate for everyone.
Their vibrations touch the deepest layers of our being,
Reminding us of our own divinity, forever freeing.
Verse 8:
In the energy of enlightenment, a sacred dance,
Between the seen and unseen, a cosmic trance.
A symphony of souls, united in their quest,
To awaken the world, and let love manifest.
Verse 9:
For within each heart, a spark of light resides,
Yearning to be kindled, to illuminate and guide.
Radiant essence, the energy of the divine,
A reminder of the truth, that we are all intertwined.
Verse 10:
So let us embrace the wisdom they bestow,
Nurture the flame within, and let it grow.
In our own journey, may we seek the divine,
And let our radiant essence forever shine.
Verse 11:
For in the energy of enlightenment, we find,
A resonance that unites the human and the divine.
A reminder that we hold the power to ignite,
The world with love and wisdom, shining ever so bright.
Verse 12:
Radiant essence, a beacon in the night,
Guiding us towards truth, with its celestial light.
Embracing the energy, we transcend the mundane,
And awaken the divine, within our very name.
Verse 13:
So, let us honor the energy of enlightenment's call,
Embrace our true essence, standing tall.
For in the radiant essence that lies within,
We find our purpose, our truth, where new beginnings begin.
Verse 14:
The enlightened ones, divine conduits they are,
Connecting the material realm to realms afar.
Through their energy, heaven's touch is revealed,
Within their presence, the sacred is unsealed.
Verse 15:
The impact they have on the planet and its plight,
A ripple of transformation, spreading far and wide.
Awakening dormant souls, igniting the spark,
Guiding humanity on a path that's not dark.
Verse 16:
Even the fallen beings, lost in their despair,
Encounter the enlightened, finding solace there.
Their energy pierces through the darkest of night,
Offering redemption, a chance to set things right.
Verse 17:
The demons, lurking behind the masks of human guise,
Shudder in the presence of the enlightened ones' eyes.
Their malevolence crumbles, their power diminished,
As the light of truth exposes the darkness they've finished.
Verse 18:
The energy of the enlightened, a catalyst of change,
Unveiling the illusions, dismantling the strange.
They inspire leaders to shed their corrupted skin,
Guiding them towards righteousness, breaking free from sin.
Verse 19:
Through their energy, the world is set ablaze,
A transformation, a shift in collective gaze.
Hearts open wide, compassion floods every soul,
Love and unity reign, making brokenness whole.
Verse 20:
In the energy of enlightenment, a new era is born,
Where divine wisdom and love are forever sworn.
The radiant essence of these beings divine,
Leads us to a world where heaven and earth align.
Summary:
"Radiant Essence: The Energy of Enlightenment" is a poetic exploration of the transformative power of enlightened energy. The poem highlights the stark contrast between the pure, vibrant energy of enlightened souls and the clouded, fluctuating energy of ordinary beings. The enlightened ones act as divine doorways, connecting the material realm to the kingdom of heaven, allowing people to experience the divine in their presence.
Within their energy, there is a harmonious resonance with the cosmic symphony, radiating love, wisdom, and profound stillness. Their presence inspires awakening and liberation, offering a tranquil serenity and whispering ancient truths. Their radiance illuminates the path to spiritual thrones, guiding seekers towards their true essence.
The poem emphasizes the profound impact of enlightened energy on the planet and its inhabitants. Even fallen beings and the demons behind human masks tremble in their presence, finding redemption and transformation. The enlightened ones inspire leaders to shed corruption and guide them towards righteousness.
Through their energy, the world undergoes a powerful transformation, with hearts opening wide, compassion flooding souls, and love and unity prevailing. The radiant essence of the enlightened beings heralds a new era, where heaven and earth align in perfect harmony.
"Radiant Essence: The Energy of Enlightenment" invites readers to embrace their own inner radiance, seek the divine within, and join the journey of self-realization. It is a reminder of the transformative potential of enlightened energy and its ability to ignite a profound shift in the world.
Hence vedas say that there is no birth or death ..life force is continued process .....some animal take more circles of earth , some take circles of moon , some take circle of earth within??? There are animals live within half circle of earth , quarter circle of earth , 1 10th circle of earth ..
Still that animal doesn't say that it is short lived or long lived ...This is a game of mind which makes it unpleasant and present..
Mind playes on budhi field, budhi playes on ahankara field , ahankara playes with chita field .. all this is inside a pot called body...also inside and outside pot ..even pot brakes it is still there ...in all pervasive limitless field .
in these times, he looks as though he is a bit tired of explaining🤣
Okay, im gonna go ahead and say that, I am not an expert on enlightenment, however I am familiar with the word, and understand the basic concept of what it is.
Then it becomes theoretical... It has no meaning or essence in your life. Unless it's in your experience, it's not true..
This is a good for spiritual entertainment. Without Guru there is no way. Even Krishna Had a Guru. JK was fortunate to have been blessed by The Divine that He could get realized but how many of us can do that? Whatever He says, its good for Him not for the ordinary public. When we do not know, we need someone who walked the path to guide us.
I think u are partly right, that a guide is needed to walk on any path, even in our materialistic and physical world we require people's guidance, just to learn basic mathematics, language and various skills we do require mentor, it's true that if one wants to learn singing, swimming, art, games, one needs mentor, without a guide we can't even learn basic things in our physical world, how it would be possible for us to understand the subtlety of mind, it's play on our own.
But at the same time there are some cons of having a spiritual mentor the discple must not be too dependent to be spoon feeded like a child , because that would paralyze the intelligence and full capacity of his ability
A true guru can only be one who tries to make his disciple non dependent on himself as early as possible, JIDDU KRISHNAMURTI was afraid of conmans and fraud people disguising themselves as guru in those times.. So he was worried and careful, and that's the reason he constantly condemned gurudom because he had seen the ugly and exploitative side of gurus
One must awaken one's own light, and must also logically question every thing, Even arjun had asked lot of questions to krishna, he was not easily satisfied by Krishna answer he repeatedly argues debated and asked hundred of questions, so questioning and logical argument must be allowed in guru discple relationship, not just believing some body's experience and and knowledge,
then only it can be a beautiful relationship.A guru can help upto a certain extent and I think that guru has a very important role to play in disciple's life though its very limited because the main responsibility is on the disciple shoulders whether he is dedicated to the truth or not.
Guru is a psychological authority, therefore listening to him you start to imagine "what should be". You need guidance as a friend , Which can be a book or a person. He's just pointing out that no authority is required but rather a friendly help.
Again you're Talking from the superficial things.. Krishna or whatever that is...
JK is Right here.... If you have a Guru Then he'll condition you according to his conditioning or What he's saying
All gurus have a very heavy conditioned mind. They can't think for themselves. They only repeat what they have read and heard from others. And never in the whole history of mankind has a guru liberated a disciple from the wheel of birth and death.
You have the same consciousness of jk. It’s not his beliefs it’s ours. Cmon man, look into it yourself before you go around telling other people what to believe
Every animal live if fear due to memory carried from a life force from previous body which generated life force from arise of desire ???
The life force is developed from pure blood flown from bone marrow of a male being ???.which carry memory in tiny brain 🧠 which carry memory of 5 generations from where it has come from ??? Is it not enough to start and then gather new set of memories ???
He fails to give a position on protecting your offsprings future freedoms.
but are you....
Enlightenment is accepting you are bald.
Little man, cancer beats enlightenment