Carlsen vs Niemann || How it All Started || Sinquefield Cup (2022)

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  • Опубликовано: 12 дек 2024

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  • @divyanshhardia835
    @divyanshhardia835 2 года назад +2317

    Agadmator: I don't want to spoil anything.
    Also agadmator: 2900 NO, 2700 YES

    • @goose5462
      @goose5462 2 года назад +79

      Agadmator is the worst at keeping a secret.
      I know the results before the video starts every time.

    • @P.sherman45
      @P.sherman45 2 года назад +7

      Yeah I would say that's the only thing I don't like ( I know the result )

    • @Shreysoldier
      @Shreysoldier 2 года назад +3

      That's why i never see the title and thumbnail and start directly

    • @Anonymous-sw5jx
      @Anonymous-sw5jx 2 года назад +11

      @@Shreysoldier how do you know you're watching a chess video then?

    • @Shreysoldier
      @Shreysoldier 2 года назад +3

      @@Anonymous-sw5jx i mean i don't look at the thumbnail with much attention so i just see a few chess pieces and then agadmator channel name

  • @robertjamesfischer4900
    @robertjamesfischer4900 2 года назад +1270

    When Antonio says it's an immediate wining move according to sesse he means that it takes 25 to 30 moves to relaize that it's a winning position

    • @piaknymarcin35
      @piaknymarcin35 2 года назад +5

      Lol

    • @raydarable
      @raydarable 2 года назад +4

      Are you the real Bobby Fischer?

    • @JuanRodriguez-im6ul
      @JuanRodriguez-im6ul 2 года назад

      @@raydarable I doubt it, partly because he's dead, but mostly because he didn't say anything about the jews

    • @johnwilson8309
      @johnwilson8309 2 года назад +77

      It’s actually a forced mate in 50 but of course you know that.

    • @nicbentulan
      @nicbentulan 2 года назад +7

      @@raydarable Yes of course back from the dead to say Wesley rules and Magnus sucks.

  • @alhfgsp
    @alhfgsp 2 года назад +507

    You don't need to apologize for a longer video, we love when you explore more variations.

    • @rohangeorge712
      @rohangeorge712 2 года назад +5

      yea, when u make it clear ur going for a different line, somethign thats not part of the game, its very nice. as long as its clear its not in the game nothing wrong for discussing a different approach

  • @alexanderstoyanov7464
    @alexanderstoyanov7464 2 года назад +1622

    Hans Moke "Chess speaks for itself" Niemann gets me every time

    • @Intao
      @Intao 2 года назад +21

      It’s a double edged sword ;)

    • @coxscorner
      @coxscorner 2 года назад +5

      It was "my chess speaks for itself", right?

    • @sinakakaei2432
      @sinakakaei2432 2 года назад +4

      @@coxscorner wrong

    • @ndnd7614
      @ndnd7614 2 года назад +24

      Embarrassing chess by Magnus. He is getting old

    • @mislavivkovic9996
      @mislavivkovic9996 2 года назад

      He is great chess player too

  • @r.mcdonnell8614
    @r.mcdonnell8614 2 года назад +120

    "this is kind of hard because this is move 48 and you would have to see it on move 29 to go for this"

  • @daveminion6209
    @daveminion6209 2 года назад +179

    great job Antonio, always appreciate when you take the time to work through all the variations and HOW TO finish and win the game at the end, I always learn alot from your video. thank you!

  • @pedroazevedo2067
    @pedroazevedo2067 2 года назад +72

    “This is all very elementary stuff” - Whaaaat? My mind is completely blown. Chess is incredible!

    • @IlariLehtonen-oo8mv
      @IlariLehtonen-oo8mv 2 месяца назад +3

      Two connected passed pawns and a knight against a bishop is elementary. You dont have to calculate everything just never stalemate the opponant and never give the bishop a chance to sac itself for 2 pawns. Other than that you dont have to calculate that much, just slowly grind the win out

  • @AlgorithmDisruptor
    @AlgorithmDisruptor 2 года назад +117

    Your commentaries are always so detailed and insightful. Thank you so much for providing us with such great quality content!

  • @reinpost
    @reinpost 2 года назад +109

    Possibly the best agadmator video I've seen. Dazzling speed and still perfectly clear to me.

  • @TheReaper002
    @TheReaper002 2 года назад +78

    Thank you for showing the endgame fully, I actually haven't learned those positions because no one ever shows them.

  • @OMJHS
    @OMJHS 2 года назад +132

    With recent news, now everytime he says "this move should be impossible" just hits harder

    • @dan7291able
      @dan7291able 2 года назад +2

      LOL SOON as i heard him say this i had to pause the video and comment too lol, with all the noise it just didnt feel right lol

    • @FeralWorker
      @FeralWorker 2 года назад

      When did he say that? Timestamp?

    • @ryanburns3902
      @ryanburns3902 2 года назад +2

      @@FeralWorker 14:22

    • @user-fm1ro3bx2x
      @user-fm1ro3bx2x 5 месяцев назад +1

      He meant it shouldnt be good, but it is. Not that it shouldn't be possible to find.

    • @DevinBookerFather
      @DevinBookerFather 3 месяца назад

      ​@@user-fm1ro3bx2x ikr

  • @huandru
    @huandru 2 года назад +49

    Thanks for explaining how to end the game with the two pawns. It is still complicated for me. I needed that. That final line, though,... Whoa!

  • @justinjozokos1699
    @justinjozokos1699 2 года назад +66

    Definitely enjoying that you show lines playable by humans during the game and then after the game show us the face-ripping engine lines. Keep up the good work

  • @dragonspight
    @dragonspight 2 года назад +72

    56 moves by Niemann. 11 moves that weren't the top Stockfish line at depth 22. Of those, 4 were the same evaluation as the top move. 6 were the second move recommended with a non-impactful loss of value. 1 was Bxc4 on move 21 5:18.

    • @JW-qd3ol
      @JW-qd3ol 2 года назад +20

      Stockfish speaks for itself!

    • @Capiibr
      @Capiibr 2 года назад +6

      Was looking for these kinds of comments

    • @mambaASI
      @mambaASI 2 года назад +8

      why is no one talking about this more? lol 45 moves were 100% precise according to stockfish, which is unheard of in the history of games analyzed by stockfish, which is pretty much every game on record. It's quite literally unbelievable...

    • @MrMali22
      @MrMali22 2 года назад +5

      @@mambaASI Yeah but it is more, let's keep an eye on him at this point. I'd rather wait for actual evidence than blacklist someone on suspicion. He could've played the best game of his life.

    • @mambaASI
      @mambaASI 2 года назад +16

      @@MrMali22 I'd rather not give a known cheater the benefit of the doubt when there is circumstantial evidence and some statistical evidence that his game was fraudulent.

  • @askthepizzaguy
    @askthepizzaguy 2 года назад +312

    I would like to believe Magnus' bishop in that endgame was a good bishop. Able to hit a lot of black pawns, lots of space, not really impeded too much by its own pawns.
    And yet that knight seemed to be everywhere. On all the right squares, at least equal to or greater than that good bishop, in a relatively open position in the endgame. That knight was a monster knight.

    • @hirukashiro5995
      @hirukashiro5995 2 года назад +40

      Yeah, somehow in this game the knight out maneuvers the bishop even though it's an open position

    • @hirukashiro5995
      @hirukashiro5995 2 года назад +41

      @gjaegreag Right. Regardless of cheating accusations or what not, I think the endgame in this one is a cool study material, a case where a knight is better than a bishop in an open position

    • @politicallyincorrect2564
      @politicallyincorrect2564 2 года назад +1

      especially if you cheat

  • @bryanmares5943
    @bryanmares5943 4 месяца назад +2

    20:16 thank you for this. Im not a experienced chess player by any means i just like playing occasionally and watch your videos from time to time. So the moves are always interesting and fun for me to digest. Thanks for the cool content 😎

  • @The-KP
    @The-KP 2 года назад +9

    Agadmator it's time well spent to explore the various proximal lines. We all learn. Thanks.

  • @kjhunkler
    @kjhunkler 2 года назад +18

    Very enjoyable video as always. Thanks for the end game walkthrough and peek at the ratings!

  • @KakashiBallZ
    @KakashiBallZ 2 года назад +61

    "And it was at this point that Magnus Carlsen withdrew from the Sinquefield cup."

    • @tomgold5006
      @tomgold5006 2 года назад +1

      Why did he not go into that ?

    • @KakashiBallZ
      @KakashiBallZ 2 года назад +31

      @@tomgold5006 Antonio probably doesn't want to speculate on gossip. The accusation was subtly implied by Carlsen and there's no direct evidence to date. Hans has cheated in the past, albeit *online*.
      Until Magnus produces direct evidence of cheating, this is a textbook definition of a rage-quit.

    • @rohangeorge712
      @rohangeorge712 2 года назад

      @@KakashiBallZ fax there was no proof of cheating just suspicion and little evidence, he just quitting on an assumption which could be true but we dont know yet.

  • @Meaneradicator
    @Meaneradicator 2 года назад +1

    Thanks!

  • @ankitmanilamichhane1087
    @ankitmanilamichhane1087 2 года назад +11

    You always explain the end of the game. This is really great.
    Awesome stuff!!!

  • @flakers1337
    @flakers1337 2 года назад +7

    cant wait for this video to age like either wine or milk

  • @alexobed4252
    @alexobed4252 2 года назад +23

    "When Magnus is not playing we don't have access to such... such sorcery." :)))

  • @li0ffy
    @li0ffy 2 года назад +38

    It felt like Magnus's rook was trapped for the better part of the game without actually being trapped

    • @yoho8742
      @yoho8742 2 года назад +21

      I feel like that's where he lost the game. Once he got his rook to the 7th rank he made like 3 pointless moves and neimann solidified his position.

  • @prascena3235
    @prascena3235 2 года назад +331

    Hans in the post game review "It must be embarrassing to lose to me"... in a good way though

    • @bits_for_bytes
      @bits_for_bytes 2 года назад +84

      Also in the postgame interview: this and that move are winning
      Interviewer: no it’s clearly not…

    • @virtualpilgrim8645
      @virtualpilgrim8645 2 года назад +1

      OMG! Magnus didn't have to lose.

    • @MasonNoThumbs
      @MasonNoThumbs 2 года назад +86

      Must be embarrassing to cheat too

    • @Shreysoldier
      @Shreysoldier 2 года назад +46

      @@MasonNoThumbs average magnus fanboy
      Edit: Pls shut up defending magnus. Yea what if Hans was just tired and didn't want to calculate deeply after that tiring game. And also it's possible that he didn't calculate everything properly but fortunately for him Magnus didn't play the moves which he has calculated wrongly.

    • @MasonNoThumbs
      @MasonNoThumbs 2 года назад +77

      @@Shreysoldier just pointing out the facts, he’s been banned twice for cheating in the past. And is currently being investigated again for foul play in this tournament

  • @palbi
    @palbi 10 месяцев назад +1

    This is one of the better chess comment sections I've seen. Agadmator has a wholesome community, gotta love it.

  • @truthbetold1377
    @truthbetold1377 2 года назад +5

    This might be your best video, including the analysis. Thank you for this video because all the moves are shown. Note: Chess24 has removed this game from the database for the Sinquefield Cup. You have preserved it for all time!

  • @Handst_Andy
    @Handst_Andy 2 года назад +1

    That hurt my brain, impressive how you can remember all these variations and explain them so well.

  • @MrMali22
    @MrMali22 2 года назад +28

    Thank you for looking at this with an unbiased eye. So many people jumping to conclusions and for all we know he played the best he has ever and will ever play. People don't understand kids these days have had these bots to train against since they were kids. They're going to get better and better.

    • @bitorange5549
      @bitorange5549 Год назад +7

      "Thanks for the unbiased eye"..... Proceeds to defend Hans

    • @MrMali22
      @MrMali22 Год назад +6

      @@bitorange5549 Didn't defend anyone. He very well could be guilty. I said we don't have proof.

    • @Romans8-9
      @Romans8-9 Год назад +9

      @@bitorange5549 Because anyone who doesnt attack Hans is defending him right? smh

    • @Demosthenes84
      @Demosthenes84 Год назад +2

      I don't think hans cheated. I think he makes bold moves that either help win or assure defeat for himself. In both cases against magnus I think the gambit worked.

    • @MrMali22
      @MrMali22 Год назад +1

      @David Martelli that's what I'm saying. He could've gotten lucky and played good best tournaments because he plays like that all the time. And most of the time it hurts him but this time it didn't and magnus pouted

  • @sliceserve234
    @sliceserve234 2 года назад +1

    fantastic annotations! thank you very much

  • @neerajchauhan3790
    @neerajchauhan3790 2 года назад +32

    Now there is big twist in the tournament with magnus withdrawing from the tournament via TWEET and attaching an interview where the coach was seen to be hinting towards cheating, The drama is going to be REAL fun.​ Magnus has never ever withdrawn from any tournament in his whole career ,if he did this time there might me something fishy here, i guess the most logical reason to that tweet is , Carlson prep got leak somehow from his closed ones, so he was very unhappy being betrayed by them.

    • @v4vun
      @v4vun 2 года назад +8

      Magnus withdrawing isn't a twist anymore

  • @oblobear2093
    @oblobear2093 2 года назад +13

    I like these kind of chess video format. It is vert educational. I never really learned chess strategy at all. It always go over my head. If onlf this kind of video are available when i was younger i might have learned how to play smartly

  • @J1mb0Y88
    @J1mb0Y88 2 года назад +10

    I really appreciate you showing the endgame, thank you !😊😊

  • @mahendra7624
    @mahendra7624 2 года назад +19

    “Chess speaks for itself” indeed.

  • @MiSTeRJoKe96
    @MiSTeRJoKe96 2 года назад +57

    Agadmator, i got into chess 5 years ago and only some months ago i was able to play vs you (random rated 1+0) 3 times on lichess! It was nice! Awesome video, i heard there is a drama started after this game so i wanted to see the recap of this game explained by you as usually before knowing what happened after that! 🤷‍♂️👍

  • @GlassOfWater87
    @GlassOfWater87 2 года назад +6

    When you say you don't wanna spoil the result but the title is a dead give away.

    • @dzllz
      @dzllz 2 года назад +2

      My thoughts

  • @leonardcharlesnew1591
    @leonardcharlesnew1591 2 года назад +4

    “This is all very elementary and I know that you all know this stuff” Yeah we do now but all forgotten tomorrow 😅

  • @TawhidAnam
    @TawhidAnam 2 года назад +1

    man your hello is frightening !! i am heart patient

  • @rodstone1597
    @rodstone1597 2 года назад +68

    Niemann has become my favorite chess player over the last month lol

    • @IAmDavid91
      @IAmDavid91 2 года назад +15

      Chess speaks for itself lol

    • @duryodhan903
      @duryodhan903 2 года назад +2

      @@IAmDavid91 Actually chess speaks for itself.

    • @IAmDavid91
      @IAmDavid91 2 года назад +4

      @@duryodhan903 funny that "chess speaks for itself" and "chess speaks for itself" do not mean the same thing 😂

    • @samuelkuchta2836
      @samuelkuchta2836 2 года назад +2

      Every time hans wins, it means that chess has indeed spoken for itself.

    • @IAmDavid91
      @IAmDavid91 2 года назад

      @@samuelkuchta2836 same when he loses

  • @abb8972
    @abb8972 2 года назад +5

    The video title should’ve been “Chess speaks for itself”

  • @franklinbradley3160
    @franklinbradley3160 2 года назад +31

    After watching this well explained video (thank you Agadmator!) I am, as a reasonably competent player, mostly convinced that Carlsen played a less than optimal game. It's also not beyond the bounds of possibility that a much weaker player can put in a perfect performance and improve in strength quite dramatically. However the guy himself (Niemann) has admitted to cheating online and that throws serious shade on any of his accomplishments. Maybe Carlsen got caught out and is throwing a hissy fit about it. Time will tell. Either Niemann will continue to rise in the rankings and Carlsen will put in more and more weaker performances as he ages, or Niemann will disappear having either played the game of his life or pulled off the cheat of the decade. My guess is that Neimann will be remembered for a dubious shock win over a dominating world champion after disappearing quite quickly

    • @iocat
      @iocat 2 года назад

      Neiman seems like a kook.

    • @dawitt.911
      @dawitt.911 2 года назад

      Magnus playing white gave his advantage away with a poor opening, however Hans being able to predict which variation his opponent is about to play and prep for it, is equally annoying.

    • @jtcard4369
      @jtcard4369 2 года назад

      @@dawitt.911 however not more annoying than a predictable world champion

  • @TallPaulVolcker
    @TallPaulVolcker 2 года назад +42

    Me, clicking on the video: "I wonder whether Agadmator will address the cheating suspicions...."
    Agadmator:
    1:53 -- "Hans captures, this is the best way to do this."
    2:01 -- "C5. Again, everything played to absolute perfection."
    2:07 -- "There are some games that reached this position, but in none of them C captures on D4 was played, which is a new move and in fact the top move recommended by the engine."
    🤣🤣🤣

    • @JeremiahHalpin
      @JeremiahHalpin 2 года назад +6

      He could have just said it was "more than impressive" like Nepo.

    • @averyinterestingpineapple6038
      @averyinterestingpineapple6038 2 года назад +10

      If you’ve watched this channel, this is nothing special :/ Everything you just stated has already been played before, except for the last one. it’s literally just a slight optimization to an already played game.

  • @sethdymondlee
    @sethdymondlee 2 года назад +9

    I don’t realize you play the whole game as a “what if” and replaces the pieces back to show the best they played, well done

  • @srikkanthank
    @srikkanthank 2 года назад +2

    Antonio sometimes shows super complicated engine line but here he is able to show some super human moves...

  • @thenewstyle8704
    @thenewstyle8704 2 года назад +4

    This game just got much more interesting after today...

  • @zebra3stripes
    @zebra3stripes 2 года назад +54

    Magnus was mad enough to withdraw after this. Where there's Moke there's ire.

  • @DeadSezSo
    @DeadSezSo 2 года назад +21

    Hans: The engine speaks for itself

  • @dhilrukshanpradeep7265
    @dhilrukshanpradeep7265 2 года назад +17

    Damn 🤣 Hans Moke Chess speaks for itself Niemann 🤣🤣🤣🤣 dude made a name for himself 🤣🤣🤣

  • @eucalyptus101
    @eucalyptus101 2 года назад +8

    You’re an amazing chess commentator. I’m mesmerised by your smooth analysis.

  • @kulitkulit3160
    @kulitkulit3160 2 года назад

    Yes! I was waiting for this.

  • @TonyPianoSheets
    @TonyPianoSheets 2 года назад +46

    Hans doing magic against Magnus in an endgame… we all know the Magnus effect. Spectacular game.

    • @JoseMiguel-po8kc
      @JoseMiguel-po8kc 2 года назад +12

      cheating x_x

    • @MasonNoThumbs
      @MasonNoThumbs 2 года назад

      Under investigation for cheating

    • @FutureAbe
      @FutureAbe 2 года назад +2

      @@JoseMiguel-po8kc Even if the rumours are true, the point is not that he cheated in the endgame…

    • @JapanLovez
      @JapanLovez 2 года назад +3

      Magnus is stressed that's why he got defeated by a 2600 guy.

    • @JapanLovez
      @JapanLovez 2 года назад +1

      He can't reached 2900 because he is a crybaby and he even can't defeat a 2600 guy...in the Olympiad this year he drew to a lot of lower rated opponents and remember he almost lost in the olympiad 2022 as well.

  • @jasonstrietzel6641
    @jasonstrietzel6641 2 года назад

    "I know all of you know this..." - Ummm yep sure. At least I know it now because you took the time to play it out. Thanks!

  • @xethnyrrow
    @xethnyrrow 2 года назад +31

    We are on the cusp of a new age of chess with all these fresh players. India is going to be dominating more likely but it's great to watch it unfold.

    • @balooojeffersong4234
      @balooojeffersong4234 2 года назад +1

      Hans cheated

    • @pandoorloki1232
      @pandoorloki1232 2 года назад +3

      @@balooojeffersong4234 Prove it.

    • @balooojeffersong4234
      @balooojeffersong4234 2 года назад +1

      @@pandoorloki1232 “you don’t need variations…” that’s all the proof I need fat boi

    • @mysticdustz7115
      @mysticdustz7115 2 года назад

      @@balooojeffersong4234 need more proof than that where’s your tard guard?

    • @danielch6662
      @danielch6662 2 года назад

      @@balooojeffersong4234 Not in this game. If he did, it was inconsequential and he didn't gain any benefit. Because it was Magnus who lost. It's not that Hans' game was so much better than normal. It's that Magnus' was so much worse than normal.

  • @Fake_Snail
    @Fake_Snail 2 года назад +2

    Those supercomputer ultra long lines are completely madness.

  • @EternalHappElements
    @EternalHappElements 2 года назад +28

    Finally an end game where knight controls bishop, thanks for the pawn position

    • @hanshansen1990
      @hanshansen1990 2 года назад +6

      Hans played the endgame like a engine.

    • @pandoorloki1232
      @pandoorloki1232 2 года назад

      @@hanshansen1990 No, actually, he didn't.

    • @QusaiT
      @QusaiT 2 года назад +2

      Yes, actually he did.

    • @rohangeorge712
      @rohangeorge712 2 года назад

      @@QusaiT No, actually, he didn't

  • @fractalinfect3454
    @fractalinfect3454 2 года назад +46

    Hans claims that Magnus played this g3 Nimzo at the London Chess Classic 2018 against Wesely So in the postgame interview. Neither Magnus or Wesely were at that tournament. Magnus's withdrawal is tantamount to an accusation against Hans, and rewatching Hans's interview does not help Hans's case imho. He presents terribly.

    • @Alexander_amsponaorsotc
      @Alexander_amsponaorsotc 2 года назад +11

      A bit too insane

    • @SeanStrain
      @SeanStrain 2 года назад +11

      Carlsen did, however, play So and indeed a number of other games in this variation by transposition according to the lichess masters database. So vs Carlsen in Kolkata 2019.
      Chess is not a geography or history quiz. He got the place and time wrong, so what? Innocent until proven guilty.

    • @fractalinfect3454
      @fractalinfect3454 2 года назад +6

      @@SeanStrain Hans felt the need to explain his exemplary play. This in itself piques suspicion, to my mind. If you got nothing to hide, why defend? He claims he looked at the lines right before the match, and said with utmost assuredness that Magnus played that line vs So at the 2018 London Classic. But when Hans was questioned about the variations, his grasp of them was off. An explanation of all this is that Hans miraculously analyzing the lines right before the match was a red herring, drawing attention away from the possibility of assisted play. He’s been caught before, as well. But yeah, innocent until proven guilty is the ethical stance.

    • @juniorTheDog1
      @juniorTheDog1 2 года назад +1

      @@SeanStrain except its just a variation. This exact line wasnt played by Magnus before which is odd

    • @zemm9003
      @zemm9003 2 года назад +2

      @Mario Miceli that just means he might have been cheating before. Watch this analysis. He had to see 20 moves ahead in some cases and he did it consistently.

  • @josephknurek7795
    @josephknurek7795 2 года назад

    Thanks for showing the ending, appreciate it.

  • @Nozickfy
    @Nozickfy 2 года назад +3

    Alekhine played 4.g3 against Golombek in Margate, 1938. (1-0 in 31). Nihil novum sub sole.

  • @HedgeFundOfOne
    @HedgeFundOfOne 2 года назад +1

    Thanks for this analysis. Including the super computer line. Amazing! 😊

  • @jaydbakes
    @jaydbakes 2 года назад +25

    When he said "I know all of this stuff is elementary" that hurt me. Bahahah. I was amazed at the explanation and strategy lol. If I was Hans I woulda blundered that end game to a draw easy.

  • @BkieeM
    @BkieeM 2 года назад +1

    Explains more line and doesnt makes overacted and overhyped expressions. Thats the good stuff

  • @Squatsheldon
    @Squatsheldon 2 года назад +52

    1. Hans beats Magnus in classical
    2. Agad posts a short form video the next day, a rare move, but it has been played at the top level
    3. Magnus tweets: Chess speaks for itself, Mourinho speaks for me
    4. Neimann stumbles through an analysis with Alejandro after drawing Alireza

    • @l.d.t.6327
      @l.d.t.6327 2 года назад +2

      *after dominating Alireza.

    • @aurelvlaicu2717
      @aurelvlaicu2717 2 года назад +3

      @L. D.T. After the engine he's used to cheat dominated Alireza

    • @parthsavyasachi9348
      @parthsavyasachi9348 2 года назад +23

      @@aurelvlaicu2717 and for this you have no proof.

    • @amun1040
      @amun1040 2 года назад

      @@aurelvlaicu2717 You have nerve, a person like you judging him, even though you had sex with your dog. If I were you, I would stop making accusations

    • @MrSuckeragi
      @MrSuckeragi 2 года назад +3

      @@parthsavyasachi9348 Exactly, might as well say Magnus is cheating and has never been caught all his life. Innocent until proven guilty. If it comes out that there was actual cheating, then and only then will I ever accuse Hans. Right now, he WON and Magnus Lost - simple. If Magnus has any accusation to make with evidence, please do so.

  • @klefdnb
    @klefdnb 2 года назад +2

    Antonio, there was a response. Magnus didn't resign after Bd5... Hans moved Ke5 attacking the bishop and THEN he resigned

  • @mostafaashraf8939
    @mostafaashraf8939 2 года назад +9

    That knight was dominating the board

  • @presingizdavastvo4403
    @presingizdavastvo4403 2 года назад +1

    4. g3 was played by Romanishin, Oleg Romanishin, when he was on his peak, midst 1970's, with great score,

  • @waevswaevswaevs
    @waevswaevswaevs 2 года назад +184

    Got so excited hearing about and seeing this game, but now Magnus has withdrawn from the tournament and essentially accused Hans of cheating. Heavy stuff.

    • @JoseMiguel-po8kc
      @JoseMiguel-po8kc 2 года назад +66

      he is clearly cheating

    • @waevswaevswaevs
      @waevswaevswaevs 2 года назад +35

      @@JoseMiguel-po8kc it definitely seems like a possibility, to know for sure we need to wait for more information, though.

    • @jonavuka
      @jonavuka 2 года назад +47

      @@JoseMiguel-po8kc yes definitely cheating when playing inaccurate moves...

    • @drazenano409
      @drazenano409 2 года назад +1

      did he really withdraw? where did you get this info from? I wanna see

    • @namibiaxx1016
      @namibiaxx1016 2 года назад

      @@drazenano409
      ruclips.net/video/aDUmS_MJceU/видео.html

  • @darkol93king34
    @darkol93king34 2 года назад

    very nice video. I wish this video was even longer ahahaha. A lot to learn here :). thank you.

  • @twisted8ight
    @twisted8ight 2 года назад +47

    Looking forward to the breakdown of how Niemann actually did it.

    • @worsethanjoerogan8061
      @worsethanjoerogan8061 2 года назад +18

      How he successfully cheated OTB?

    • @qekruxt5089
      @qekruxt5089 2 года назад

      Mad

    • @jakubwirecki4213
      @jakubwirecki4213 2 года назад

      @@worsethanjoerogan8061 it is a harmful accusation with no proof

    • @anas4816
      @anas4816 2 года назад +16

      @@worsethanjoerogan8061 yall are pissed some 19 year old beats the world champ

    • @parthsavyasachi9348
      @parthsavyasachi9348 2 года назад +10

      @@worsethanjoerogan8061 if you guys ever figure out then let us know.
      Until then it didn't happen.

  • @manikn4585
    @manikn4585 2 года назад

    I have been checking my phone repeatedly for this upload

  • @primeobjective5469
    @primeobjective5469 2 года назад +73

    "It must be embarrassing for the World Champion to lose to me - I feel bad for him!” -Hans Niemann
    Lol

    • @hirukashiro5995
      @hirukashiro5995 2 года назад +2

      Don't forget the "idiot" haha

    • @knowaayy
      @knowaayy 2 года назад

      Savage

    • @JoseMiguel-po8kc
      @JoseMiguel-po8kc 2 года назад +17

      no savage, just cheating

    • @MasonNoThumbs
      @MasonNoThumbs 2 года назад +11

      Cheating and bragging about winning by cheating

    • @knowaayy
      @knowaayy 2 года назад +6

      @@MasonNoThumbs cry hard!

  • @AmishWebmaster
    @AmishWebmaster 2 года назад

    Thank you for your recap. I saw another explain this game and understand this better with you.

  • @EbonysBlaze
    @EbonysBlaze 2 года назад +6

    That disgusting square was nice to see. Thank you for showing the supercomputer line we normally don’t have access to.

  • @alon3304
    @alon3304 2 года назад +11

    The chess spoke for itself :)

    • @iFkNxLegend
      @iFkNxLegend 2 года назад

      The chess engine spoke for itself

    • @alon3304
      @alon3304 2 года назад

      @@iFkNxLegend nope he didn't chest

  • @tuckerlivingston
    @tuckerlivingston 2 года назад +8

    there is no way this is an impossible win for Hans. There were 2 pawn moves that obviously were great, but this is a winable game. The more I see things, the more i realize Magnus was just freaking out he coudn't get to 2900 with Hanz lowering his rating, and had suspiscions. But everyone forgot how they were treating this Hans kid, and what the reprecussions would be in his life. This kind of thing, and the way it was handled was a fail, and should never happen to anyone in their lives. I hope he gets monetary compensation for the damage done to him. Aditionally, what agamator shows as a brilliancy of Hans at 14:25 is right after Magnus played a sub-optimal move. There are also several places when better moves could have been played by Hans that he didn't play. There is no way on earth he was using some kind of micro ear peace in live chess, televised with people watching him in the room. All this was a massive, needless drama. I really hope the people who caused this grief on Hans get their just deserts.

    • @75ncv4hu9tg7
      @75ncv4hu9tg7 2 года назад

      It's pretty clear that he is using outside assistance in his games. He is playing 40+ move games with higher than 95% accuracy and even a game with 100% accuracy. Tons of games with 90%+ accuracy. Magnus at his peak is playing at 70% accuracy and Bobby Fischer during his peak was playing with 73% accuracy.

    • @tuckerlivingston
      @tuckerlivingston 2 года назад +7

      @@75ncv4hu9tg7 just last week Hikarun played at 99 % accuracy. There are alot of figures people read and look for proof. Kasparov even didn't condem Hans. The game he beat Magnus in was in no way perfect. There is no proof Hans cheated other than suspiscion wich has ruined the kids career. Anyway, he was playing live. How on earth would he have cheated? No one can say. Cameras, judges, everyone watching the whole time. I don't buy into the whole condemnation attitude. Innocent until proven guilty. If anything, let him play more times and use tech to try and catch him if there are doubts, right? He cheated when he was 12 and 16....jeez, if I was held up to things I did in those years now, it would be a terrible life... I mean, he even admitted publicly for hsi mistakes, and in my mind you only do that when you have nothing to hide and you want to leave your past.

    • @75ncv4hu9tg7
      @75ncv4hu9tg7 2 года назад

      @@tuckerlivingston Just remember that those are only the times when he has been caught. He plays these godlike games but can't even explain himself when asked about moves and lines. ruclips.net/video/Am_AQf1ZBq4/видео.html

  • @theslamguy9615
    @theslamguy9615 2 года назад +1

    Hello chess champs i wanaa ask is Any big chess tournament happening on September in which top GMs are playing pls tell after sinquifield cup 11th sep please tell i wanaa write Blog on that topic.

  • @mbm6048
    @mbm6048 2 года назад +77

    Ego isn't a bad thing after all .Hans is basically doing what Muhammad Ali used to do.The bigger the Ego the more challenge and better he becomes

    • @brao3102
      @brao3102 2 года назад +3

      Belief is a powerful thing.

    • @avg_user-dd2yb
      @avg_user-dd2yb 2 года назад +14

      ego demands hard work.

    • @uxigadur
      @uxigadur 2 года назад +2

      He has the right mindset. He trust himself but for moments is fiercely autocritic, also knows chess is all about hard work and has a clear goal. He is not so different than other players, just more public about it. I find it really fun watching a player who will go for great things even if sometimes fail.

    • @lalajun5902
      @lalajun5902 2 года назад +2

      @@avg_user-dd2yb getting 2700 is hard work, I'm pretty sure Niemann already worked himself hard to achieve it. Magnus is just blessed with good genes and that's why he is on another level.

    • @jangdi.
      @jangdi. 2 года назад +2

      What did Ali do??? It's not about Ego, it is about discipline and talent. All top boxers from that era trained very hard.

  • @gordonstevens6050
    @gordonstevens6050 2 года назад +2

    Slaughtered No wonder he withddrew He had a glimpse of the future

  • @WoodStyle_No_Jutsu
    @WoodStyle_No_Jutsu 2 года назад +6

    I wonder what Carlsen broke after that game..

  • @aceofjoy1099
    @aceofjoy1099 2 года назад +2

    Beautiful game, beautiful analysis

    • @benjaminunruh7970
      @benjaminunruh7970 2 года назад

      You might even say stock fish inspired it was so beautiful

  • @kristianhauservillegas3343
    @kristianhauservillegas3343 2 года назад +3

    And it was in this position, after Bd5, that Magnus Carlsen resigned in the tournament.

  • @douglaseLamb
    @douglaseLamb 2 года назад

    Thx 🙏🏻, Antonio. Another great presentation. ♾🌻 d

  • @scarfacepug4844
    @scarfacepug4844 2 года назад +18

    The most beautiful part of chess is when your opponent can predict your every move but they still lose- Magnus 2022

  • @CubanCubeFan
    @CubanCubeFan 2 года назад

    Finally made some time to watch this. Well worth the wait!

  • @M1nat0
    @M1nat0 Год назад

    Hi Agadmator, just wanted to thank you for your videos. I consider myself an intelligent man, but after I picked up chess again after almost 16 years of not playing it, I feel like a Neanderthal. I hover around 650-800 ELO and still blunder a lot, but I love watching your videos as it's very easy to understand them and super entertaining, especially when I guess a move on the "pause the video" sections.
    Keep it up and hope you're feeling better! Much love from Costa Rica 🇨🇷

    • @XxxXxx-br7eq
      @XxxXxx-br7eq Год назад

      You can be highly intelligent and still struggle with chess for the mere fact that the patterns of learning it are much better absorbed at a young age. The young mind has no biases and can focus on the game more.

  • @mislavivkovic9996
    @mislavivkovic9996 2 года назад +9

    Omg he putts Carlsen in Zugzwang his chess really speaks for itself

  • @DonLavelle
    @DonLavelle 22 дня назад +1

    He shows Hans had better moves he could have made which proves he did not cheats.

  • @mbm6048
    @mbm6048 2 года назад +20

    Chess spoke for Itself !!

  • @neatgaminghd764
    @neatgaminghd764 Год назад +4

    the fact there is a supercomputer only active when magnus is playing really shows the level that magnus truly plays at

  • @Falquiboy
    @Falquiboy 2 года назад +1

    23:06
    'Quiet an astonishing acheatvment'

  • @pAwLinNe17
    @pAwLinNe17 2 года назад

    08:30 what if pawn takes f5 instead of the a4 right away? instead of the a4..

  • @jeffreywilliams3421
    @jeffreywilliams3421 2 года назад +4

    If you're going to break a ratings benchmark for the first time, beating the world champ is certainly the way to do it

    • @rayfinkle2805
      @rayfinkle2805 2 года назад +1

      What’s the big deal Fischer was playing these moves 50 years ago without engines

    • @rohangeorge712
      @rohangeorge712 2 года назад

      @@rayfinkle2805 what does that even mean these moves havent been played before, what dont u understand when agad says, on blah blah blah move, it was a completely new game. and that was kinda early. this comment is wrong, we all know fischer is better than nieman but what u said doesnt makek sense

  • @DunklerZebralord
    @DunklerZebralord 2 года назад

    Fantastic video!

  • @hakimhakim-bz5bz
    @hakimhakim-bz5bz 2 года назад +6

    such precise endgame by hans truly a genuis

  • @funduk89
    @funduk89 2 года назад +1

    Finally, a drama. We haven't had one for a while

  • @ChristianLieb
    @ChristianLieb Год назад +3

    "This is all elementary stuff, I guess, you all know that..." I find the endgame still very hard to master, so any explanations are welcome.

  • @johncampbell2296
    @johncampbell2296 2 года назад

    At the 5:11 mark in the video, instead of offering the pawn, Magnus could play knight to e5. This puts pressure on the backwards pawn and a potential check AND guards the pawn threatened by the black rook.

  • @a.o.3523
    @a.o.3523 2 года назад +4

    Loved the bonus "sorcery line" at the end! 👏👏

    • @cbomb3000
      @cbomb3000 2 года назад

      “I know it’s Disgusting to look at” He is so funny

  • @alphaandomegaministry2718
    @alphaandomegaministry2718 Год назад +2

    Great job Hans....and the way you have played after this game is pretty amazing. Love your fearless exciting unpredictable attacking play. Just what top level chess needs.

  • @fortytwo9517
    @fortytwo9517 2 года назад +7

    Magnus is so cocky that he will result in accusing someone of cheating before taking a L like a man. There’s so much elitism in chess everyone puts Magnus on a pedestal and refuse to accept with upmost stubbornness that someone could out play him. Disgusting attitude

    • @GGtheRealest
      @GGtheRealest 2 года назад +1

      Magnus has lost games to premoved games online, he's lost to little kids like Praggnanandha, like dude there's many times where Magnus has lost a game and just moves on like normal. I think you hate Magnus because he's just the best. but bro, Magnus didn't even accuse him of cheating. he lost the game and bounced from the tournament, that was it, that's why I think you just hate Magnus, because he almost said nothing.

    • @fortytwo9517
      @fortytwo9517 2 года назад +1

      Losing online in rapid isn’t the same to losing to a 2600 OTB in classical chess, and losing badly that is. He lost in ways he beats others, a slow painful loss. And maybe you don’t know anything about the mourinho meme and English football but Magnus definitely insinuated he cheated. And he did it in a way in which he can go back and say in the future that he didn’t outright accuse him of anything. It was a smart move. And to your assumption about me hating Magnus, I love Magnus he’s my favourite player ever, but I’m not bias and clouding my judgement - his attitude when losing stinks

  • @studdpuppy85
    @studdpuppy85 2 года назад +1

    I enjoy Hans confidence. It’s absolutely needed to continue on the path of improvement. I look forward to seeing more of him.