Magnus Very Upset With Pragg's Early Sacrifice

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  • @kabthesax
    @kabthesax 2 года назад +1541

    Magnus even applauded Pragg and showed him a thumbs up at the end of the game! Pragg is truly a scintillating talent, looking forward to these two playing each other over the years to come.

    • @ImAnBoosterBaby
      @ImAnBoosterBaby 2 года назад +57

      Yes, Might turn into a relationship similar to Kasparov and Carlsen, with Pragg having the potential to become the next chess god amongst men.

    • @peyton7344
      @peyton7344 2 года назад +44

      Until magnus accuses him of cheating

    • @somedude3236
      @somedude3236 2 года назад +121

      @@peyton7344 nah he wouldn't accuse a good player of cheating. Only people who have a history of cheating and suddenly jump 200 elo in a short time and beat all the top players out of nowhere. Two very different players.

    • @ImAnBoosterBaby
      @ImAnBoosterBaby 2 года назад +54

      @@peyton7344 I don't know if Hans actually cheated but you must admit, him beating Magnus even thought there's a 200 Elo difference, his meteoric rise, even though he only started becoming good fairly late (in relation to other top GMs) and especially his explanations and interviews after the games are suspicious. Not condemning but definitely suspicious!

    • @Avus86
      @Avus86 2 года назад +29

      @@somedude3236 Totally! The scores from the official fide-page absolutely prove that. Look at the impossible rise of Niemann in contrast to some other strong players at a similar age:
      Niemann: +162
      2021-Mar 2526
      2022-Sep 2688
      Gukesh: +163
      2021-Mar 2563
      2022-Sep 2726
      Arjun: +166
      2021-Mar 2559
      2022-Sep 2725
      This is just insane!

  • @dennisdzeko3916
    @dennisdzeko3916 2 года назад +767

    Never have I ever in my life was this satisfied with a draw in chess.

    • @wingzacademy369
      @wingzacademy369 2 года назад +14

      Watch morozevich vs kasparov games

    • @askthepizzaguy
      @askthepizzaguy 2 года назад +7

      I am pretty thrilled to see when Tal or Morphy is drawn by someone who either defends amazingly well or attacks them instead. Those are fun draws, too.

    • @pandoorloki1232
      @pandoorloki1232 2 года назад +2

      It's not at all satisfying that Pragg missed Ke4.

    • @PHENN7
      @PHENN7 2 года назад +2

      It's "Never in my life was I this satisfied...".

    • @lukegyzzle1639
      @lukegyzzle1639 Год назад +1

      @@PHENN7 thank you 😂

  • @CubanCubeFan
    @CubanCubeFan 2 года назад +550

    Magnus acknowledging Pragg was just wicked great...

    • @nicbentulan
      @nicbentulan 2 года назад +9

      Does Magnus Carlsen have something against Americans? Hans Niemann is American, like Wesley So and Bobby Fischer.
      Wesley So 'completely obliterated' Magnus Carlsen in the 9LX world championship 13.5-2.5 and 4-0.
      Bobby Fischer invented 9LX.
      Hans Niemann is American (like Wesley So, Beth Harmon and Bobby Fischer).
      But consider the non-Americans of the next generation:
      Rameshbabu Praggnanandhaa is not American: Magnus gives Pragg today round of APPLAUSE after his Stunning performance (Julius Baer Generation Cup 2022)
      Andrey Esipenko is not American: Magnus 'didn't say anything when got beaten by Esipenko'. (Image here.)
      Alireza Firouzja is not American: Don't really have anything to put here except Magnus and the Alireza thingy of world blitz 2019: Initially, Magnus talks on own time after Alireza moves. That's fine. But later after moving and then punching clock Magnus still continues to make noise.
      Additional:
      Magnus cheated against Daniel 'Danya' Naroditsky on lichess.
      Magnus described Hikaru Nakamura as merely 'decent'.
      Eric Rosen beat Magnus in 9LX.
      Magnus condescendingly asks Andrea Botez how knights move.
      St Louis Chess Club is in the US.
      Note: This post is not (completely) serious.

    • @PKS02
      @PKS02 2 года назад +28

      @@nicbentulan I seriously hope you didn't spend more than 30 minutes writing that wall 😬

    • @ongemakkelijkegladjakker
      @ongemakkelijkegladjakker 2 года назад +6

      @@nicbentulan delet this

    • @nicbentulan
      @nicbentulan 2 года назад +1

      @@PKS02 When Wesley So or Bobby Fischer accuse people of cheating, we listen. When Magnus Carlsen accuses, we laugh. Magnus is a cheater too.
      Magnus was never the world champion. Wesley has been the world champion since 2019. Wesley will beat Magnus in Iceland in 2022Oct.
      Magnus sucks. Wesley rules.
      Magnus may be the best currently, but Wesley is the most talented currently. Magnus lost 4-0 actually 13.5-2.5 to Wesley in 9LX .
      Chess = great = a combination of theory and talent
      9LX = pure talent
      Talent is how good you are when there's no theory.
      Looks like Magnus is good only for openings. Turns out Magnus is a talentless patzer who crumbles without opening prep. PATHETIC.
      Note: Patzer means extremely good at openings but sucks at middlegames and endgames.
      So much for greatest endgame player of all time ey?
      Magnus is maybe a GOAT but THE GOAT? Please. How can you be THE GOAT when you're TALENTLESS?
      saynoto2900
      Wesley told Hikaru in stream that 50-70 years 9LX will replace chess. See my vids if you don't believe me. Wesley said in 2018 interview that Bobby or Garry is GOAT. Even if Magnus is GOAT, Magnus is definitely not MTOAT.
      Don't tell me about 2nd place. 2nd place in 9LX is pathetic for a 4x world chess champion esp 1 who later became 5x world chess champion.
      9LX removes openings, so Magnus should be STRONGER not LESS STRONG. Yet Magnus lost 13.5-2.5 to Wesley and didn't get a single win. Why?!?!?!!!!
      Magnus is a coward because:
      The 9LX world championship in Iceland doesn't have a candidates the same way the last 4 world chess championships do. Magnus had the privilege to defend against ONLY 1 OPPONENT each of the last 4 times. Here, there isn't like a tournament / a series of tournaments and then the unique winner will face Wesley. Rather Wesley and Magnus will play others in a tournament. Basically Wesley has to play the 9LX candidates to retain the world 9LX title while Magnus never had to play the candidates the last 4 times! If Magnus isn't a coward then Magnus should complain about this!
      Why the Hell should we accept a new champion esp if it's Magnus if they become champion without beating Wesley?
      Imagine a round robin of just Wesley Magnus Nepo and Fabi. Imagine they all draw except 1 game where Magnus beats Nepo. Then Magnus out-scores Wesley to become world 9LX champion without actually beating Wesley? PATHETIC! ABSURD! REPREHENSIBLE! COWARDLY! saynoto2900
      Bobby Fischer was on top for only a short period of time because FIDE and Anatoly Karpov (no offense Sergey!) were cowards who ran away from Bobby.
      See? It's happening again. FIDE and Magnus are being cowards running away from Wesley.
      9LX saynoto2900
      Magnus cheated with David Howell against Danya naroditsky
      1 - in the lichess thing.
      2 - in relationships. Lol.
      Anyway Magnus also cheated in world blitz 2019 in distracting alireza.
      Also Magnus cheated nepo with the knight touch move thing and then said 'do better' as part of gaslighting the reporter.
      Magnus is like the cheaters tigran V petrosian and tigran L petrosian and is unlike the HONEST people Wesley so and Bobby Fischer. I guess 9LX players have more integrity than chess players.
      Google "magnus carlsen gaslighting"
      Quote 1:
      After playing Chess960, I realise how mentally unwell chess players become the more they play it. They know they will get the same ideal setup every game and they deny the fact that they will mess it up unless they memorise some other geek's ideas. In Chess960 there is nothing to deny. You know you are going to get a far from ideal start position and you know it is up to you to make the best of it and you know you will be playing moves nobody has tried before.
      Which is better for your mental health?
      Quote 2:
      Chess960: The winner is the more agile mind. Chess: The winner is the biggest nerd.

    • @nicbentulan
      @nicbentulan 2 года назад +1

      @@ongemakkelijkegladjakker When Wesley So or Bobby Fischer accuse people of cheating, we listen. When Magnus Carlsen accuses, we laugh. Magnus is a cheater too.
      Magnus was never the world champion. Wesley has been the world champion since 2019. Wesley will beat Magnus in Iceland in 2022Oct.
      Magnus sucks. Wesley rules.
      Magnus may be the best currently, but Wesley is the most talented currently. Magnus lost 4-0 actually 13.5-2.5 to Wesley in 9LX .
      Chess = great = a combination of theory and talent
      9LX = pure talent
      Talent is how good you are when there's no theory.
      Looks like Magnus is good only for openings. Turns out Magnus is a talentless patzer who crumbles without opening prep. PATHETIC.
      Note: Patzer means extremely good at openings but sucks at middlegames and endgames.
      So much for greatest endgame player of all time ey?
      Magnus is maybe a GOAT but THE GOAT? Please. How can you be THE GOAT when you're TALENTLESS?
      saynoto2900
      Wesley told Hikaru in stream that 50-70 years 9LX will replace chess. See my vids if you don't believe me. Wesley said in 2018 interview that Bobby or Garry is GOAT. Even if Magnus is GOAT, Magnus is definitely not MTOAT.
      Don't tell me about 2nd place. 2nd place in 9LX is pathetic for a 4x world chess champion esp 1 who later became 5x world chess champion.
      9LX removes openings, so Magnus should be STRONGER not LESS STRONG. Yet Magnus lost 13.5-2.5 to Wesley and didn't get a single win. Why?!?!?!!!!
      Magnus is a coward because:
      The 9LX world championship in Iceland doesn't have a candidates the same way the last 4 world chess championships do. Magnus had the privilege to defend against ONLY 1 OPPONENT each of the last 4 times. Here, there isn't like a tournament / a series of tournaments and then the unique winner will face Wesley. Rather Wesley and Magnus will play others in a tournament. Basically Wesley has to play the 9LX candidates to retain the world 9LX title while Magnus never had to play the candidates the last 4 times! If Magnus isn't a coward then Magnus should complain about this!
      Why the Hell should we accept a new champion esp if it's Magnus if they become champion without beating Wesley?
      Imagine a round robin of just Wesley Magnus Nepo and Fabi. Imagine they all draw except 1 game where Magnus beats Nepo. Then Magnus out-scores Wesley to become world 9LX champion without actually beating Wesley? PATHETIC! ABSURD! REPREHENSIBLE! COWARDLY! saynoto2900
      Bobby Fischer was on top for only a short period of time because FIDE and Anatoly Karpov (no offense Sergey!) were cowards who ran away from Bobby.
      See? It's happening again. FIDE and Magnus are being cowards running away from Wesley.
      9LX saynoto2900
      Magnus cheated with David Howell against Danya naroditsky
      1 - in the lichess thing.
      2 - in relationships. Lol.
      Anyway Magnus also cheated in world blitz 2019 in distracting alireza.
      Also Magnus cheated nepo with the knight touch move thing and then said 'do better' as part of gaslighting the reporter.
      Magnus is like the cheaters tigran V petrosian and tigran L petrosian and is unlike the HONEST people Wesley so and Bobby Fischer. I guess 9LX players have more integrity than chess players.
      Google "magnus carlsen gaslighting"
      Quote 1:
      After playing Chess960, I realise how mentally unwell chess players become the more they play it. They know they will get the same ideal setup every game and they deny the fact that they will mess it up unless they memorise some other geek's ideas. In Chess960 there is nothing to deny. You know you are going to get a far from ideal start position and you know it is up to you to make the best of it and you know you will be playing moves nobody has tried before.
      Which is better for your mental health?
      Quote 2:
      Chess960: The winner is the more agile mind. Chess: The winner is the biggest nerd.

  • @coldtruth9431
    @coldtruth9431 2 года назад +436

    What a ruthless attack by Pragg, he threw the entire kitchen sink at Magnus yet he managed to survive

    • @mr.anonymous5961
      @mr.anonymous5961 2 года назад +14

      Ayo watched the whole stream but didn't see any of that action!

    • @mn1233
      @mn1233 2 года назад

      perhaps Magnus was cheating?

    • @Kaha_se_mitra13
      @Kaha_se_mitra13 2 года назад +8

      @@mn1233 I think you're supporting niemann

    • @mn1233
      @mn1233 2 года назад +1

      @@Kaha_se_mitra13 I saw a RUclips video that showed Magnus cheating; based on Magnus’ own standard, he should be disqualified…

    • @babu6984
      @babu6984 Год назад

      🤣Nice Funny Example

  • @asdf123311
    @asdf123311 2 года назад +443

    agadmator: “and of course, this move -“
    Me: “- yes! That’s what I was thinking. Killer move-“
    agadmator: “-would be a terrible move”
    Me: 😓

    • @uedito
      @uedito 2 года назад +11

      I feel you , you are not alone young one

    • @thabzaone3784
      @thabzaone3784 Год назад +1

      😂😂😂

    • @PredatorMounts
      @PredatorMounts Год назад +3

      No, he's definitely not alone, I'm pretty sure I'm in that VERY crowded room. LoL

    • @ZeufAabe
      @ZeufAabe Год назад +3

      Forking the rooks ? ;)

    • @PredatorMounts
      @PredatorMounts Год назад +1

      @@ZeufAabe that's a grandmaster move, right?

  • @ramachandra776
    @ramachandra776 2 года назад +550

    Pragg does not seem to be wary of Magnus . he is willing to match blow for blow and not afraid to go for the jugular against Magnus .

  • @olivercash6586
    @olivercash6586 2 года назад +610

    Prag vs magnus is never boring

    • @whiskeySe7en
      @whiskeySe7en 2 года назад

      Snooooze.

    • @rickymackie2340
      @rickymackie2340 2 года назад +12

      fighting chess!

    • @nicbentulan
      @nicbentulan 2 года назад +2

      Does Magnus Carlsen have something against Americans? Hans Niemann is American, like Wesley So and Bobby Fischer.
      Wesley So 'completely obliterated' Magnus Carlsen in the 9LX world championship 13.5-2.5 and 4-0.
      Bobby Fischer invented 9LX.
      Hans Niemann is American (like Wesley So, Beth Harmon and Bobby Fischer).
      But consider the non-Americans of the next generation:
      Rameshbabu Praggnanandhaa is not American: Magnus gives Pragg today round of APPLAUSE after his Stunning performance (Julius Baer Generation Cup 2022)
      Andrey Esipenko is not American: Magnus 'didn't say anything when got beaten by Esipenko'. (Image here.)
      Alireza Firouzja is not American: Don't really have anything to put here except Magnus and the Alireza thingy of world blitz 2019: Initially, Magnus talks on own time after Alireza moves. That's fine. But later after moving and then punching clock Magnus still continues to make noise.
      Additional:
      Magnus cheated against Daniel 'Danya' Naroditsky on lichess.
      Magnus described Hikaru Nakamura as merely 'decent'.
      Eric Rosen beat Magnus in 9LX.
      Magnus condescendingly asks Andrea Botez how knights move.
      St Louis Chess Club is in the US.
      Note: This post is not (completely) serious.
      When Wesley So or Bobby Fischer accuse people of cheating, we listen. When Magnus Carlsen accuses, we laugh. Magnus is a cheater too.
      Magnus was never the world champion. Wesley has been the world champion since 2019. Wesley will beat Magnus in Iceland in 2022Oct.
      Magnus sucks. Wesley rules.
      Magnus may be the best currently, but Wesley is the most talented currently. Magnus lost 4-0 actually 13.5-2.5 to Wesley in 9LX .
      Chess = great = a combination of theory and talent
      9LX = pure talent
      Talent is how good you are when there's no theory.
      Looks like Magnus is good only for openings. Turns out Magnus is a talentless patzer who crumbles without opening prep. PATHETIC.
      Note: Patzer means extremely good at openings but sucks at middlegames and endgames.
      So much for greatest endgame player of all time ey?
      Magnus is maybe a GOAT but THE GOAT? Please. How can you be THE GOAT when you're TALENTLESS?
      saynoto2900
      Wesley told Hikaru in stream that 50-70 years 9LX will replace chess. See my vids if you don't believe me. Wesley said in 2018 interview that Bobby or Garry is GOAT. Even if Magnus is GOAT, Magnus is definitely not MTOAT.
      Don't tell me about 2nd place. 2nd place in 9LX is pathetic for a 4x world chess champion esp 1 who later became 5x world chess champion.
      9LX removes openings, so Magnus should be STRONGER not LESS STRONG. Yet Magnus lost 13.5-2.5 to Wesley and didn't get a single win. Why?!?!?!!!!
      Magnus is a coward because:
      The 9LX world championship in Iceland doesn't have a candidates the same way the last 4 world chess championships do. Magnus had the privilege to defend against ONLY 1 OPPONENT each of the last 4 times. Here, there isn't like a tournament / a series of tournaments and then the unique winner will face Wesley. Rather Wesley and Magnus will play others in a tournament. Basically Wesley has to play the 9LX candidates to retain the world 9LX title while Magnus never had to play the candidates the last 4 times! If Magnus isn't a coward then Magnus should complain about this!
      Why the Hell should we accept a new champion esp if it's Magnus if they become champion without beating Wesley?
      Imagine a round robin of just Wesley Magnus Nepo and Fabi. Imagine they all draw except 1 game where Magnus beats Nepo. Then Magnus out-scores Wesley to become world 9LX champion without actually beating Wesley? PATHETIC! ABSURD! REPREHENSIBLE! COWARDLY! saynoto2900
      Bobby Fischer was on top for only a short period of time because FIDE and Anatoly Karpov (no offense Sergey!) were cowards who ran away from Bobby.
      See? It's happening again. FIDE and Magnus are being cowards running away from Wesley.
      9LX saynoto2900
      Magnus cheated with David Howell against Danya naroditsky
      1 - in the lichess thing.
      2 - in relationships. Lol.
      Anyway Magnus also cheated in world blitz 2019 in distracting alireza.
      Also Magnus cheated nepo with the knight touch move thing and then said 'do better' as part of gaslighting the reporter.
      Magnus is like the cheaters tigran V petrosian and tigran L petrosian and is unlike the HONEST people Wesley so and Bobby Fischer. I guess 9LX players have more integrity than chess players.
      Google "magnus carlsen gaslighting"
      Quote 1:
      After playing Chess960, I realise how mentally unwell chess players become the more they play it. They know they will get the same ideal setup every game and they deny the fact that they will mess it up unless they memorise some other geek's ideas. In Chess960 there is nothing to deny. You know you are going to get a far from ideal start position and you know it is up to you to make the best of it and you know you will be playing moves nobody has tried before.
      Which is better for your mental health?
      Quote 2:
      Chess960: The winner is the more agile mind. Chess: The winner is the biggest nerd.

    • @thefighterinhades
      @thefighterinhades 2 года назад +14

      @@nicbentulan stop spamming.

    • @nicbentulan
      @nicbentulan 2 года назад +1

      @@thefighterinhades why? Magnus is a racist.

  • @houtarooreki9802
    @houtarooreki9802 2 года назад +644

    Magnus clapping to praggu at the end serves two clear statements.

    • @lorenzomartinez8543
      @lorenzomartinez8543 2 года назад +128

      It shows that Magnus believes himself as the one who deserves to judge who is a worthy GM.

    • @sugoi9388
      @sugoi9388 2 года назад +25

      He wants the support of Indian viewers

    • @noxus7462
      @noxus7462 2 года назад +40

      @@sugoi9388 hahaha no

    • @diwaker_yadav
      @diwaker_yadav 2 года назад +24

      @@sugoi9388 The deserving dont need to, he's the best, he needs no backing

    • @rakeshshukla4915
      @rakeshshukla4915 2 года назад +96

      There are 75 other Indian GMs whom magnus has never clapped for and few of them have played many more games than prag. Its good for the kid dont look at it from the nation prism.

  • @janakiraman2317
    @janakiraman2317 2 года назад +364

    You missed to include the clip where Magnus appreciated pragg by clapping and thumbs up sign... It was a rare sight!

    • @Hubythereal
      @Hubythereal 2 года назад +2

      is there a link? I want to see that

    • @janakiraman2317
      @janakiraman2317 2 года назад

      @@Hubythereal ruclips.net/video/HIl00SYQOiM/видео.html

    • @babayada2015
      @babayada2015 2 года назад

      @@Hubythereal go for CBI

    • @C.Riram123
      @C.Riram123 2 года назад +2

      @@babayada2015 overrated

    • @Gg-ki5dn
      @Gg-ki5dn 2 года назад

      ..

  • @coachmcguirk6297
    @coachmcguirk6297 2 года назад +54

    It's really funny they played it out to the last move instead of a handshake draw. They both knew it was a draw long before the game ended.

    • @olemew
      @olemew 2 года назад +3

      I was surprised too, maybe it has to do with playing online? somewhat more awkward than extending your hand in real life.

  • @alwaysup22
    @alwaysup22 2 года назад +63

    One of the most complicated games I have seen played on the channel, the dynamics from early on were just crazy. Great review Agad!

  • @jimdiroffii
    @jimdiroffii 2 года назад +173

    I think it’s somewhat more thrilling to see them play out a draw to kings.

  • @bunny-yawn
    @bunny-yawn 2 года назад +108

    So early magnus hasn't resigned yet!

    • @James-vc1kc
      @James-vc1kc 2 года назад +1

      Made me burst out in laughter

    • @moosa1461
      @moosa1461 Год назад

      I don’t get it

    • @collinnear3570
      @collinnear3570 Год назад

      @@moosa1461 the thing men put on to not get women pregnant

    • @moosa1461
      @moosa1461 Год назад +1

      @@collinnear3570 yes what about that, I still don’t get it😭

  • @mihaelfitz
    @mihaelfitz 2 года назад +59

    The imbalance in pieces was a wild scene to behold. I guess that's what a modern opening and two rook exchanges will get you. That, and a Magnus clap of respect because you are a fearless 17-year-old. Mental game.

  • @KSHMRmusic
    @KSHMRmusic 2 года назад +39

    Love the Final Fantasy VII quote 👌🏼

  • @indianpe624
    @indianpe624 2 года назад +52

    This was ridiculously good. It seemed like Pragg was Christian bale trying to climb out of the mercenaries' well in Dark knight rises. Jumping without a rope and clinging on and getting out anyway

  • @nikhilchandra9258
    @nikhilchandra9258 2 года назад +33

    Probably the most entertaining draw of the year

  • @theotherjoedimaggio
    @theotherjoedimaggio 2 года назад +20

    Pragg will be world champion one day. He plays like one already.

    • @farazsiddiqui1312
      @farazsiddiqui1312 2 года назад

      🤦🤦🤦

    • @edward4817
      @edward4817 Год назад

      @@farazsiddiqui1312 he is a kid and grand master stop the hate its not good he is just kid allah won't be happy with your behavior

  • @yourstruly1234
    @yourstruly1234 2 года назад +20

    I have never seen Magnus being made to defend like this for the entire game..well done Prag..

  • @hampannashampanna33
    @hampannashampanna33 2 года назад +32

    What a game by pragg..... 👏

    • @dennisdzeko3916
      @dennisdzeko3916 2 года назад +9

      By both of them.* Imagine yourself playing in Magnus' shoes. I'd definitely get destroyed after that opening and the position Carlsen was left with.

  • @rajeshgunesh
    @rajeshgunesh 2 года назад +13

    Pragg: Forget about beating me!

  • @dopecello8670
    @dopecello8670 2 года назад +17

    I really enjoy the way Pragg plays

  • @jisooya7878
    @jisooya7878 2 года назад +14

    Waiting for this recap from agad...finally it's here...great coverage!!

  • @sreekanth7223
    @sreekanth7223 2 года назад +8

    Magnus respects who brings fight to him and make him earn his draws. Nice gesture at the end of the game.

    • @nicbentulan
      @nicbentulan 2 года назад +1

      When Wesley So or Bobby Fischer accuse people of cheating, we listen. When Magnus Carlsen accuses, we laugh. Magnus is a cheater too.
      Magnus was never the world champion. Wesley has been the world champion since 2019. Wesley will beat Magnus in Iceland in 2022Oct.
      Magnus sucks. Wesley rules.
      Magnus may be the best currently, but Wesley is the most talented currently. Magnus lost 4-0 actually 13.5-2.5 to Wesley in 9LX .
      Chess = great = a combination of theory and talent
      9LX = pure talent
      Talent is how good you are when there's no theory.
      Looks like Magnus is good only for openings. Turns out Magnus is a talentless patzer who crumbles without opening prep. PATHETIC.
      Note: Patzer means extremely good at openings but sucks at middlegames and endgames.
      So much for greatest endgame player of all time ey?
      Magnus is maybe a GOAT but THE GOAT? Please. How can you be THE GOAT when you're TALENTLESS?
      saynoto2900
      Wesley told Hikaru in stream that 50-70 years 9LX will replace chess. See my vids if you don't believe me. Wesley said in 2018 interview that Bobby or Garry is GOAT. Even if Magnus is GOAT, Magnus is definitely not MTOAT.
      Don't tell me about 2nd place. 2nd place in 9LX is pathetic for a 4x world chess champion esp 1 who later became 5x world chess champion.
      9LX removes openings, so Magnus should be STRONGER not LESS STRONG. Yet Magnus lost 13.5-2.5 to Wesley and didn't get a single win. Why?!?!?!!!!
      Magnus is a coward because:
      The 9LX world championship in Iceland doesn't have a candidates the same way the last 4 world chess championships do. Magnus had the privilege to defend against ONLY 1 OPPONENT each of the last 4 times. Here, there isn't like a tournament / a series of tournaments and then the unique winner will face Wesley. Rather Wesley and Magnus will play others in a tournament. Basically Wesley has to play the 9LX candidates to retain the world 9LX title while Magnus never had to play the candidates the last 4 times! If Magnus isn't a coward then Magnus should complain about this!
      Why the Hell should we accept a new champion esp if it's Magnus if they become champion without beating Wesley?
      Imagine a round robin of just Wesley Magnus Nepo and Fabi. Imagine they all draw except 1 game where Magnus beats Nepo. Then Magnus out-scores Wesley to become world 9LX champion without actually beating Wesley? PATHETIC! ABSURD! REPREHENSIBLE! COWARDLY! saynoto2900
      Bobby Fischer was on top for only a short period of time because FIDE and Anatoly Karpov (no offense Sergey!) were cowards who ran away from Bobby.
      See? It's happening again. FIDE and Magnus are being cowards running away from Wesley.
      9LX saynoto2900
      Magnus cheated with David Howell against Danya naroditsky
      1 - in the lichess thing.
      2 - in relationships. Lol.
      Anyway Magnus also cheated in world blitz 2019 in distracting alireza.
      Also Magnus cheated nepo with the knight touch move thing and then said 'do better' as part of gaslighting the reporter.
      Magnus is like the cheaters tigran V petrosian and tigran L petrosian and is unlike the HONEST people Wesley so and Bobby Fischer. I guess 9LX players have more integrity than chess players.
      Google "magnus carlsen gaslighting"
      Quote 1:
      After playing Chess960, I realise how mentally unwell chess players become the more they play it. They know they will get the same ideal setup every game and they deny the fact that they will mess it up unless they memorise some other geek's ideas. In Chess960 there is nothing to deny. You know you are going to get a far from ideal start position and you know it is up to you to make the best of it and you know you will be playing moves nobody has tried before.
      Which is better for your mental health?
      Quote 2:
      Chess960: The winner is the more agile mind. Chess: The winner is the biggest nerd.
      Does Magnus Carlsen have something against Americans? Hans Niemann is American, like Wesley So and Bobby Fischer.
      Wesley So 'completely obliterated' Magnus Carlsen in the 9LX world championship 13.5-2.5 and 4-0.
      Bobby Fischer invented 9LX.
      Hans Niemann is American (like Wesley So, Beth Harmon and Bobby Fischer).
      But consider the non-Americans of the next generation:
      Rameshbabu Praggnanandhaa is not American: Magnus gives Pragg today round of APPLAUSE after his Stunning performance (Julius Baer Generation Cup 2022)
      Andrey Esipenko is not American: Magnus 'didn't say anything when got beaten by Esipenko'. (Image here.)
      Alireza Firouzja is not American: Don't really have anything to put here except Magnus and the Alireza thingy of world blitz 2019: Initially, Magnus talks on own time after Alireza moves. That's fine. But later after moving and then punching clock Magnus still continues to make noise.
      Additional:
      Magnus cheated against Daniel 'Danya' Naroditsky on lichess.
      Magnus described Hikaru Nakamura as merely 'decent'.
      Eric Rosen beat Magnus in 9LX.
      Magnus condescendingly asks Andrea Botez how knights move.
      St Louis Chess Club is in the US.
      Note: This post is not (completely) serious.

  • @vaiku8453
    @vaiku8453 2 года назад +8

    Man pragg is such a legend a lot of young talent will be like let's try to get a draw out of Magnus and beat the rest but pragg is like let's push for win

  • @markangus3252
    @markangus3252 Год назад +5

    Shame that Pragg didn't find that winning moves which would have made this an epic brilliancy. Great game from Pragg.. What a talent.

  • @demianschultz3749
    @demianschultz3749 2 года назад +3

    Ivanchuk is awesome even at his age he is on fourth place

  • @luutzennijdam7213
    @luutzennijdam7213 2 года назад +6

    Great play Pragnanandha, sacrificing Rooks for Knight and Bishop and creating a winning endgame in the center of the board.

  • @sebastianrex6697
    @sebastianrex6697 2 года назад +2

    Magnus resigned against hans and applauded Prag after the hard fought draw he is making a statement.period.

    • @askthepizzaguy
      @askthepizzaguy 2 года назад

      I fully support that statement. He's congratulated basically everyone who has ever beaten him while he was world champion and well before that, a decade of good sportsmanship.
      Hans is the exception for lots of reasons, including the fact that he admitted to cheating, and then was banned for additional games cheated he didn't admit to, and doesn't understand the game he beat magnus in.
      If I used an engine to beat Magnus, I would not be able to answer questions about how I did it. That's Hans, although he is legitimately some kind of grandmaster on top of it.

    • @sebastianrex6697
      @sebastianrex6697 2 года назад

      @@askthepizzaguy well said,Let the truth prevail..

  • @journees4300
    @journees4300 2 года назад +4

    Prag is showing the world who will be the future world champion.

  • @trumanburbank6899
    @trumanburbank6899 2 года назад +1

    Excellent play by Pragg.

  • @anonymousaxolotl
    @anonymousaxolotl 2 года назад +12

    I'm only 900 ELO, and have been watching your videos for a few months or so now on and off. At first, my instinct was certainly to play b4 at the paused interval, but I finally found the right move with the king for once! Happy to say I am now not only enjoying the show :)

    • @shade0636
      @shade0636 2 года назад +1

      Good work Kurapika.

  • @cristiangamboa2037
    @cristiangamboa2037 2 года назад +8

    Prag is the type of player Magnus would want to play a world Championship against. Just sone 4 or 5 years and Prag might be ready

  • @harrisaxer2651
    @harrisaxer2651 2 года назад +63

    I didn’t find the move but found Pragu’s move. May not be as deeply calculating as an engine but matching (by sheer luck) a GM makes me feel kinda cool!

    • @woodfinchcrafts7267
      @woodfinchcrafts7267 2 года назад +4

      I saw the move immediately. Proves I was cheating - got nothing to do with how obvious it is (except to a super grandmaster)

    • @nick1752
      @nick1752 2 года назад +1

      I found the move Ke4 as I was thinking about Rook retreating to d7, HOWEVER... I didn't see the follow-up idea at all. Sad, but chess is a really hard game :/

    • @dcatast1655
      @dcatast1655 2 года назад

      Every time I find the move (like this time) I’m then disappointed because the continuation of why I chose it never matches.

    • @nick1752
      @nick1752 Год назад

      @Truth Hertz yeah, the truth does hurt. That's why they are GM.

  • @FredPlanatia
    @FredPlanatia 2 года назад +9

    it was nice to see that frustration on MC, its what you get for playing this. I wish Pragg had found the Ke4 move. It seems pretty intuitive. Centralize the king, bringing it closer to your passed pawns, and attack that rook which hardly has any squares. But hey, i'm sitting on a sofa and agad stopped the game there and asked me to find the winning move.

    • @arvindhmani06
      @arvindhmani06 2 года назад +1

      And there are not already a hundred options running wild in your head right in the thick of battle against the world champion

    • @pandoorloki1232
      @pandoorloki1232 2 года назад

      @@arvindhmani06 If you know how to play chess you know that few options are relevant (and there aren't nearly 100 legal moves in that position).

    • @arvindhmani06
      @arvindhmani06 2 года назад

      @@pandoorloki1232 Metaphor

  • @adhi_r
    @adhi_r 2 года назад +51

    Everyone is appreciating pragg but look at how Magnus bounced back not many could have done that

    • @ivanleon6164
      @ivanleon6164 2 года назад +12

      agree, but we also need to agree it was because an error from Prag, two true genius.

    • @virajdeshpande3701
      @virajdeshpande3701 2 года назад +8

      Magnus is a multiple world champion, the highest rated player ever by ELO, considered by many the greatest of all time. Pragg is a 17-year-old future talent. Of course Pragg is going to get appreciated more.

  • @micahclawrence
    @micahclawrence 2 года назад +5

    Two absolute geniuses duking it out

  • @corvusmonedulas4895
    @corvusmonedulas4895 2 года назад +2

    Ah, pawn to J6. Truly innovative

  • @ykhov
    @ykhov 2 года назад +31

    Are we witnessing Magnus' Bobby Fisher arc?

    • @unclecarrot8000
      @unclecarrot8000 2 года назад +1

      It's paid hype.

    • @trucid2
      @trucid2 2 года назад +1

      Only when he grows a beard and starts calling out the jews.

  • @ptbot3294
    @ptbot3294 2 года назад +1

    Im surprised Pragg couldnt finish that off. Seem like he had Magnus on the rope

  • @apexreactions4231
    @apexreactions4231 Год назад +1

    Woof that winning line was absolute lockdown

  • @okibelieveyou7553
    @okibelieveyou7553 Год назад +2

    I've been playing this line in Blitz for 2 years and am soooo stoked to see it appear in a gm game!

  • @justushyronimusausdemnetz1024
    @justushyronimusausdemnetz1024 2 года назад +4

    Pragg is still my favorite active player. He plays so many exciting games

  • @nightwi5h959
    @nightwi5h959 2 года назад +2

    That's the first guess the move I've ever got on the spot, LEGGO!

  • @guanxi99
    @guanxi99 2 года назад +8

    What a bold game by Pragg!
    This is the kind of chess we want to see!!

  • @Fajowski50
    @Fajowski50 2 года назад +1

    I found the king e4 move in 3 seconds. Didn’t actually calculate anything, it just looked really natural. Surprised pragg didn’t find it.

  • @charitrajain9617
    @charitrajain9617 2 года назад +2

    Pragg and magnus is the current best rivalry!

  • @Sharkmoves
    @Sharkmoves 2 года назад +61

    Basicly the ONLY move that keeps him in the game, Be5 is also possible 😂

    • @zenogaming9050
      @zenogaming9050 2 года назад

      Best move in any position

    • @surfingbilly9654
      @surfingbilly9654 2 года назад +1

      nah can't do Be5 it's obviously a forced checkmate in 65 moves.

  • @indianengineer743
    @indianengineer743 2 года назад +5

    I don't understand whether Agad really think we find the moves or is he sarcastic

    • @harrisaxer2651
      @harrisaxer2651 2 года назад +2

      There is no sarcasm in his voice so my guess is he’s just very supportive

    • @indianengineer743
      @indianengineer743 2 года назад +1

      @@harrisaxer2651 Yeah, it's not in his voice. But "Magnus couldn't could, but you can" doesn't sound reasonable TBH 😂😂

    • @harrisaxer2651
      @harrisaxer2651 2 года назад

      @@indianengineer743 😂

  • @CuShorts
    @CuShorts 2 года назад +2

    Pragg is the true heir to Magnus.

  • @primeobjective5469
    @primeobjective5469 2 года назад +4

    Two titans clashing. Love it!

  • @jaxconnor623
    @jaxconnor623 2 года назад +2

    Him: you guys found the winning me cuz u r awesome
    Me : didn't even consider it

  • @john4elohim
    @john4elohim Год назад +1

    The occasional Magnus/Pragg drama is today's rough equivalent of the immortal Fischer/Spassky rivalry - something like each being the other's equal and opposite force.

  • @bargiona
    @bargiona 2 года назад +1

    Ke4 is a move only Niemann could find

  • @TheMarksT
    @TheMarksT 2 года назад +16

    Quite the battle here. Watched this live and Magnus even applauded Pragg for his play here! Quite sporting as usual for Magnus, although still human, not being able to play Hans too! No one's perfect, but he's pretty close. Thanks Antonio for covering this game!

  • @timespaice
    @timespaice Год назад +1

    And it was in this position that Carlsen withdrew and told everyone pragg must have been cheating. He felt that Pragg was playing like Hans Niemann.

  • @hueguy
    @hueguy 2 года назад +1

    Relentless and innovative attacks met by classy defense.

  • @diarmidmoncrieff
    @diarmidmoncrieff 2 года назад +1

    agadmator: great commentary, very well done, thank you - i have enjoyed many of these.

  • @kmarasin
    @kmarasin 2 года назад +1

    I'm actually surprised Pragg missed Ke4. It's an obvious move to consider first, so he must have thought something was wrong with it.

  • @sgc3594
    @sgc3594 2 года назад +2

    A Final Fantasy quote by Barrett??? you are the best, Agad.

  • @takshpatel283
    @takshpatel283 2 года назад +2

    At 3:45 I thought I was a genius for seeing the fork that magnus couldn’t see. Lol

  • @BinxyBrown
    @BinxyBrown 2 года назад +2

    I'm an 800 rated player and my first instinct in the position was the winning king move but I also would have lost of either side 20 moves before that and even after I doubt I could win that end game

  • @jurjenvanderhoek316
    @jurjenvanderhoek316 2 года назад +1

    7:04 The white g-pawn is not a passed pawn. Black still has a pawn on h7.

  • @karthiksisupal4781
    @karthiksisupal4781 Год назад

    @13:40 "which of course you guys found, you guys are really awesome. "
    Epic. 🤣🤣

  • @kimsampemergency4044
    @kimsampemergency4044 Год назад +1

    Ironic how praggy found one great after another and missed an not-so-difficult move by his standards which could ve been pivotal for him . I guess that's entirely magnus effect in play

    • @JTST1234
      @JTST1234 Год назад

      very low time, they were playing instantly at that moment

  • @Dontleavemedimi
    @Dontleavemedimi 2 года назад +2

    Wow that young man is indeed impressive. With this sort of play he might be the heir…

  • @docwillis1443
    @docwillis1443 2 года назад +4

    Just wanna say I really enjoy your videos and commentary 👍👏👏👏

  • @pandoorloki1232
    @pandoorloki1232 2 года назад +1

    I don't understand why Pragg didn't play Ke4, the most natural move on the board.

  • @Ben-vg6ox
    @Ben-vg6ox 2 года назад +2

    Like him or not Magnus definitely sees pragg differently from the rest of the GMs

  • @MonemTariq
    @MonemTariq 2 года назад +1

    Magnus used a terrible opening, and yet, was able to defend himself 👌

  • @adershgr
    @adershgr 2 года назад +2

    Prag said he learned from arjun's game against magnus that morning

  • @benben77777
    @benben77777 Год назад +1

    Recently Magnus said he would never play a tournament with Nieman. But now he does?!

  • @herman1francis
    @herman1francis 2 года назад +4

    It's hilarious that agadmator tells us that we totally found the move a super gm missed because we are awesome while Levy tells us : you are all 800 of course you didn't see it

    • @applesteve6932
      @applesteve6932 2 года назад +2

      Agadmator is just one of us who had the knowledge and dedication to build this channel (and I do think it is the best chess channel on the interwebs).
      The other guy just has a different background and it comes across in his attitude.

    • @herman1francis
      @herman1francis 2 года назад +1

      @@applesteve6932 I like both. They have different perspectives. Levy is brash and cynical for content purposes but he is not arrogant

    • @banshinath8773
      @banshinath8773 2 года назад

      😂

  • @iitbombaycse6836
    @iitbombaycse6836 2 года назад +1

    Stockfish 15 advice:- ALWAYS CAPTURE FREE PAWN

  • @goose5462
    @goose5462 2 года назад +13

    Pragg is a beast, seems to always play interesting games.

  • @omprakashbaruah9425
    @omprakashbaruah9425 2 года назад +2

    King to e4 move. 13:35 .
    No Agad, we are not that smart. We didn't find it.

  • @Chuch_Manana
    @Chuch_Manana 2 года назад +2

    Very odd. I found the King move immediately. That position screamed for that King move. You then control the game. Super surprised that was not played. Awesome game regardless.

    • @chanderbalaji3539
      @chanderbalaji3539 2 года назад +1

      Not a classical game, time control gave that effect.

  • @quantum_beeb
    @quantum_beeb 2 года назад

    Magnus has always praised how pragg plays.

  • @rickharold7884
    @rickharold7884 2 года назад +3

    Beautiful battle. And nice comeback from being down. Amazing I guess the king move.

  • @LenhaRDT0130
    @LenhaRDT0130 2 года назад +2

    glad im one of those who find the King move

  • @rogerjackson7318
    @rogerjackson7318 Год назад +2

    Great game. My head is spinning!

  • @bulliemthembu5846
    @bulliemthembu5846 2 года назад +2

    Magnus reacting to secretly being Hans Neimann and finding out live on steam is priceless

  • @RustyKlowbi
    @RustyKlowbi 2 года назад +4

    This is way more fun than watching Hans and his chess speak for itself

  • @pradyumnaparanjape1332
    @pradyumnaparanjape1332 2 года назад +2

    It had started to appear as if you had decided to show only won/lost games. Good to see this.

  • @StephaneDesnault
    @StephaneDesnault 2 года назад +3

    The engine was suggesting 13. Na4, aiming for b6, preventing Magnus from castling, as way better than 13. Nf3 - What do you think ? Magnus played 13. ... - Qa5, suggesting he was aware of that resource.

  • @dominiquelaurain6427
    @dominiquelaurain6427 2 года назад +8

    Chess spirit is back ! :-) Smartly played for both sides. Of course h4 is somewhat borderline,..,but problematic for Black in many similar pawn structures.What I like best is the way to progress in that material unbalanced position. After watching Ivanchuk interview yesterday in another channel..I am moreinterested in the tournament: maybe the different styles of play because there are more players than usual.

  • @petescott9011
    @petescott9011 2 года назад +1

    As a possible response to Agamators “winning move”
    What about rxd3? Followed by cxd3-Re2#. Then the white king has to either block his own pawns, or let the black king into the position.
    If Kxd3, -Rh6, f5, Rxd6! Doubling blacks pawns. The black king could hold this while his h pawn ran for it, or if Praggs king went for the h pawn, Magnus would have plenty of time to gobble the rest.

  • @leagueaddict8357
    @leagueaddict8357 2 года назад +2

    I usually play the same sacrifice in the Italian it leads to fun Blitz 3+0 games.

  • @averycarty7772
    @averycarty7772 2 года назад +1

    in that example at 4:46, could the queen even take that pawn? moving knight to e6 would fork the queen and rook

  • @MaritimeSunset
    @MaritimeSunset 2 года назад +2

    Wow, amazing game by Pragg.

  • @michaeldiener5053
    @michaeldiener5053 2 года назад +1

    I was hoping for the Hans game. "1. d4 Nf6. Pause the video and win this game for Hans. ... For those of you who just want to enjoy the show, the winning move is 2. c4. ***slow-motion move *** That's the good stuff! Magnus resigned because there was ... ... everything left to be done."

  • @Chilhva
    @Chilhva 10 месяцев назад

    this game shows great minds were playing

  • @Gregory_McIntosh
    @Gregory_McIntosh Год назад

    3:09 - "...just going all Mr. Barnes on Magnus." 😆

  • @michaelsdenney
    @michaelsdenney 2 года назад +1

    Pragg is a fighter !

  • @johnwilson8309
    @johnwilson8309 2 года назад +5

    Going all Mr. Barnes, lol

    • @optimagroup6296
      @optimagroup6296 2 года назад

      What does this expression mean?

    • @johnwilson8309
      @johnwilson8309 2 года назад

      @@optimagroup6296 I think it means attacking all the time

  • @andreaovolante3325
    @andreaovolante3325 2 года назад +3

    That's the difference between a truly talented player, wich never cheated and always played in high level. If Magnus didn't resigned in Hans game, Hans would be the last one of the group! That prove something too

  • @Jehag2
    @Jehag2 Год назад +1

    Wohow! The balls to play against Magnus like that!

  • @jasper5016
    @jasper5016 2 года назад +4

    Great match. Cannot believe Adhiban lost 5 matches.

  • @gabrielobed
    @gabrielobed Год назад

    Finally someone pronounces Pragg's name right

  • @martinskoda8725
    @martinskoda8725 2 года назад +3

    I reallz enjoyed this wild and positional game...one if the best and interesting game of the year 👍