Niemann: Magnus Must Be Embarrassed to Lose to Me | Round 3
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- Hans Niemann talks to Alejandro Ramirez after defeating Carlsen in the third round of the 2022 Sinquefield Cup.
2022.09.04
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It was such a ridiculous miracle he played all the correct moves without understanding most of them.
It's called inspired chess we all had one game where we've done it lmao
@@Throw-ct7cv I was inspired to his dedication to cheat. This was his best cheat yet. He has turned it into an art form 😂
@@Throw-ct7cv Niemann har a suspicious amount of inspired games
When you reach this level of brilliance, you don’t understand why.
That’s how Elon musk was in the kitchen one day and suddenly he had built a self landing rocket. Amazing!
Remember. Chess speaks for itself, so don’t ask yeah!
@@Rrr-bz6pe No he doesn't. It's so easy to say something stupid like you just did.
Alejandro is hands down the best interviewer in the scene.
Well he can explain the game better than a super ‘GM’ so he’s definitely a good interviewer
@Drunk Town There's no way that guy is 19.
@Drunk Town I don't think he cheated. I think Magnus is being a drama queen. But there's no way that guy is 19.
@Drunk Town yeah right. So am I.
its easy to look good when you have the worlds strongest chess engine whispering in your ear... him and maurice always have this arrogance about them... easy when you have help
- I just woke up and looked at this strange opening from my dreams and there it was. Thank you, Gods of chess.
Lol what a joke.
He isnt the first player to say something like what he said nor the last. He isnt the first to say some bs in an interview either. Fabi even said it in his pod that often players are full of it in their interviews.
@@ryanhughes1101 That joke 1 year later is unbanned and beating every GM in a match marathon lol people like you are joke, no evidence of anything "bUt YOu HaVe A fEeLiNg" about something so you get to claim things without any repercussions, pathetic....
I love how Hans is just being real and speaks his mind. He wasn't being disprespectful. Hopefully he does well for the rest of the event.
Way better than Miami. I agree he wasn't being disrespectful. I would have liked to see he and Svidler discuss his main point about opportunities for younger players. I'm personally tired of seeing Caruana, So, Aronian, and MVL. I wouldn't be surprised if Magnus feels the same. As far as St Louis, I'm not as impressed as he is.
Don’t know why people think it’s not disrespectful ,,,
@@Neelinmact I think because of how he said it. My mother used to tell me it's not what you say, it's how you say it. He wasn't angry, he was self-deprecating, he laughed at himself . He's not as polite as someone like Prag or Aronian, but he seems to be changing. His issue was serious, though I don't know the details. Ding played a crazy series of games to qualify to play in the candidates. And St. Louis is doing the equivalent of "buying" players who are federation shopping. And it isn't like we haven't seen nasty chess politics and favoritism before.
@@Neelinmact Because he wasn't being arrogant like he was in Miami. He knows his place, he's barely 2700 and is facing the best chess player by a long mile, and managed to beat him.
Of course he'd call himself an idiot, it's just the self-deprecating nature for young people, especially when he faced the guy who doesn't want to play the WCC because he already knows he's the best.
@@Neelinmact Change subject to "Nakamura" or "Hikaru" and anyone would be throwing dirt to him and his "ego"
hans became the youngest player ever to beat WC magnus carlsen with black pieces in classical . he also crossed 2700 after this game . what a great achievement by this young man ❤
Giri beat Magnus with black at 16, Magnus wasn't WC then but he was World #1
He also broke Magnus' like 57 game no-loss record in Classical. On black. While being under 2700. Just a legend.
@@Rahul-eh3rf Pragg has defeated him several times but not in classical ig...
@@Rahul-eh3rf How is that relevant at all?
@@Rahul-eh3rf Yeah, I think when Magnus was 6 years old someone of his age beat him with black... 😁
he even calls it "miracle". magnus has withdrawn from the tournament. i guess there is 2 options. hans is going to be the next chess superstar or magnus has the correct feeling and something was dubios.. however, this interview is going to be legendary
Hans cheated. Its obvious
The chess community, particularly those accusing Hans of cheating, owe him a big apology. They're accusing him based on Magnus withdrawing from the tournament, but none of them have any evidence to backup their claims
@@derbarenschander7737 how lol
@@derbarenschander7737 he didn’t even play the best moves. How did he cheat?
@@michaeletzkorn then you should turn on your brain lol
If he always does the best moves, its 100% true that he cheated, so he also used the second or third best moves to not make it thst obvious
Hans has the potential to become one of the greatest chess villain
Because hes a cheater
You predict the future sire?
@@worldpeace8814 there is no evidence to prove just cry baby champion crying for loss
@@rajsub3884 I don’t think he’s talking about this game in particular. Hans is a known cheater and he’s been banned multiple times before
@@rajsub3884 There will be no evidence cause he got that Area 51 tech deep up his bum
"Don't explain it to me, I'll lose my humanity". Brilliant
I went to look up the game between Magnus and Wesley So in the 2018 London Chess Classic, but found that neither of them were actually at that tournament.
I haven't watched that many post game interviews but Alejandro's have been the best by far.
Alejandro is great, hope to see him in future events
Is he the interviewer? He was so good at prompting and probing lines, following the them move by move, and challenging back and forth.
@@JamesCharbonneau Yes, GM Alejandro Ramirez is the interviewer.
@@bennettjoseph9970 I thought the interviewer was Joël Lautier, good to know it’s actually Alejandro Ramirez, thanks😊
He's A Pedo-Phile. . . .
@@othnielmarsh8942 doesnt change his interviewing skilss
Prediction: This interview won't age well.
We will be here to remind you if it does!
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Hahahaha based
It's astounding to me how so many people can see this guy's interview and think that he's actually better than Carlsen. Carlsen can actually recall the logic he used in vivid detail, as well as what alternate strategies he was considering at the time, too. Niemann just says it was a "miracle." Come on, guys. For having a reputation of being one of the most intelligent games in history, it seems like many Chess fans are complete idiots.
So he’s dumber than Carlsen. That still doesn’t qualify as evidence of cheating.
Like how many people are asking how just because it was OTB, like they have never heard or seen the cheats used to scam casinos.
He can recall it because he played the very same moves against himself a thousand times. Of which Hans didn't!
@@chidilebopo1091 I think I understand your comment... you're agreeing that Magnus is the better player because of his ability to play/analyze games against himself more objectively than Hans, is that right?
You need to understand Hans Niemann is not that type of guy that explain everything logically and in detail in an interview, it's just his personality is more aggressive and mysterious like B.Fischer
Everybody will be examining this interview for clues.
Facts
interview of the year..can feel the energy and a much needed refresh..kudos to him saying without STL Chess is a joke
@@raylopez99 On the one hand: yes. On the other hand: chess and culture should not depend on the mercy of rich donors. While I think that STL chess has done a great deal for chess, it still depends on the donor. The donor buys not only a good deed, but also a reputation and potentially voters. It is not always clear what of Sinquefields public portfolio is honest philanthropy and what is self-advertisement.
According to Wikipedia one of his main interests is to reduce income tax and replace it with a changed sales tax system. This is what Wikipedia writes about this: "Dubbed the Kansas experiment, this policy decreased state revenues by hundreds of millions of dollars;[29] caused spending on roads, bridges, and education to be slashed;[30][31] and failed to lift Kansas' below-average economic growth.[32]". He is also known to buy political power through donations and funding initiatives. Do you want chess to be part of a political agenda like this - or any political agenda of rich donors? Do you want politics to be about self-advertisement that distracts from the actual content of your suggested policies? Or do you want it to be financed long-term, stable and without any direct political influence or conditions by tax money, regulated by laws?
I am a bit torn about the issue of STL Chess. It finances a lot of great educators and players with great personalities and honorable goals. It is not easy to make money with chess like this and I think all of them deserve such a great chance. On the other hand, it is a bit ridiculous that chess competitions like the Olympiad and club chess are becoming a battle of the wallets. It is no accident that Levon Aronian (formerly Armenian), Fabiano Caruana (formerly Italian), Wesley So (formerly Phillipino) and Lenier Dominguez (formerly Cuban) are all playing for the US team now. It is not a coincidence that the tournament basically features Team USA + X with a huge price fund. You could see it as buying players and their trophies. You could also see it as a fair offer in a world where, as I said, making money with chess isn't easy. There clearly is no black and white to this issue. What I definitely wish for is a bit more inclusivity, as Niemann put it so well.
@@nilsp9426 if wesley so is formerly philipino, which he is, you can’t say caruana is formerly italian, he’s 100% american and were his parents to let him have an italian passport, but that doesn’t make him italian, he can’t even speak italian, just some words
@@raylopez99 u in the 1% of what?
@@nilsp9426 Caruana was born in the US
A friend showed me the difference between Hans' American accent and his European accent in interviews and now I can't get it out of my head lol.
He does have a very unusual American accent - indicative of someone who lived elsewhere for an extended period of time.
Can you link me interviews with the different accents? As a European I really don’t get what’s wrong with his accent.
@@dylanwelch8228 honestly not that unusual. im from an immigrant familiy in the states and grew up with a lot of other immigrant families, and a lot of the kids were born and raised here but their mother tongue was a foreign language they spoke with their parents and they have slight accents as well
@@ChrisChoi123 that's not analogous though. Hans until recently had a very general American accent. This isn't something picked up from his childhood.
@@raylopez99 he lived in the netherlands for like 3 years as a kid. He speaks in a normal american accent except in recent interviews. To be fair it’s very bobby fisher. “Gotta wear the nicest suit with the nicest accent or people will look down on me”. (Not necessarily saying that’s his motive, but it reminds me personally a lot of fisher who did have an inferiority complex)
Just my impression, I remember when 18 years old Esipenko beat Magnus in Tata Steel in 2021, he was not able to leave the table after the game, because of emotions. Esipenko told in the post game interview to GM Shipov that he was completely exhausted. Nieamann is very calm like he was doing this every day and in his 19 he behaves like Bobby Fischer
Is this the first cheating incident of Hans that you heard of?
I had the same thoughts. In the Esipenko game he also showed a huge happiness winning against Carlsen, while Hans only gave him a killer stare. It's strange but no proof of nothing obviously.
it,s not the first time he beats magnus
Ikr. He desperately tries to create an imago of a crazy genius just like Fischer. It so cringeworthy to watch, because it is obviously fake.
@@danielfcastro he was trying to play it cool, inside he was over the the moon.
Call him arrogant but I think he is just as genuine as it gets, I don't think anyone after beating magnus with black in a classical would have accepted they checked this opening before the game,they would have claimed to have calculated it over the board. Also people who trolled him after the ftx cup, look at him now.
Yeah you are right..nieman is creative player..has creative idea..in crypto cup he has winning positionnhe just blundered because he is too ambitious and that rapid match so mistake always happen..but nieman is really suitable for classical..beating magnus in classsical as playing black pieces and countering his opening ,thats shows a lot for hans niemann
You need self-belief, which may stray into arrogance, if you want to be a champion
magnus is doomed his decline to 2750 starts now
to be fair, he trolled himself during FTX
I like him as well, but lots of players would have (and do) admit they checked the variations or didn't in a particular position after the games. It's a very common statement for top GMs to make after a game when it happens.
1. "It's so riddiculous that I've even checked it"
2. "He played that here and there" ["I knew fair and square what I'm doing"].
This escalated quickly
Alejandro is priceless!!! "That's why I'm here at the board and you're out there playing."
So funny how he checked this today and remember everything he played and deeper, but in the interview, he offers variations that makes no sense and after 1 move deeper now he does not remember ... please check his hair for microphones !!!
After Magnu's withdrawal from the Sinquefield tournament. This interview upon further analysis looks very weird. Let's see what happens!
It doesn t
@@youtubecensoringcomments7427 He's stumbling through lines and is wrong about the analysis
1:25 even Alejandro gets suspicious on Hans :-)
Am I the only one that feels weird that this genius has to justify himself saying "I don't even remember why I checked this specific line, it was a miracle" Are you telling me that this guy "doesn't remember" something so important from something that happened in the same morning?? This sound extremely suspicious...
You and the other people that have never prepared for many hours on the day of the game might think this way. People that actually had this experience understand that there is nothing suspicious there
@@ChessHoodie This dude got caught cheating twice online lmao, why act like people have no reason to doubt? He brought it upon himself if anything
@@ChessHoodie he knows every nuance until like move 25. To remember something like that in such a specific line against a player that has played this once or twice in blitz, idk. This would take a long fking time to study if u had to study every line for every move ^^
@@garybuttherissilent5896 I wasn't aware of the fact that he has history of online cheating. Regardless of that I still doubt very much that he cheated in this tournament.
Many years ago, I was one of the few people to point out that Borislav Ivanov was a cheat, because it was my friend who first detected it. I listened to what my friend had to say and evaluated the situation. We were trying to warn the world ( my friend through his website and myself by speaking out), but people didn't believe us. It was only six months later or so, when the rest of the world starting to suspect the guy.
My point is that I am the person who is aware of cheating being possible and actually happening in the chess world, but there are cases when the allegations are almost absurd. For example the Kramnik case, and this one here. Of course, I might be wrong about Hans ( although I seriously doubt that I will), while I am 100% sure that accusations of Kramnik were utter bs.
@@kaischmidt7973 I guess time will tell, or or won't... we'll just have to wait and see...
This interview was great lol
Edit: hmm, drama
How can people not tell that he is lying... Does not talk like a chessplayer
and he doesnt really analyze game like a chess player.
he called it miracle that he was looking at that exact position this morning.
i mean what are the odds of that...
and someone did analysis of magnus games and noticed that magnus in his entire career only played this position one time.
so there was no point of ever looking at that the morning before the tournament.
This is a wonderful interview, thank you. Obviously Hans is a very enigmatic character and I look forward to watching him develop. But also, the interviewer did an excellent job of matching his tone
He's developing like sour milk.
Hans Hans Hans... "I prepped this line this morning...." Give me a break....
He's a professional player. Of course he did. Why wouldn't he?
@@DaaimShabazz because u dont prep a 35 move deep line that he has playd maybe once or twice in blitz. Thats just not practical. Even after 25-30 moves he was able to tell exactly what his thoughts were in a way that didnt seem like he was thinking during the game but it was still his prep
@@kaischmidt7973 What do you mean? GMs do it all the time. None of that even matters. He still had to play the moves. It's not like he knew Carlsen would play the exact moves. That is what prep is. You are basically guessing. Anyway it was a normal game, not some brilliant sequence that gave Hans a winning position. Carlsen played below standard.
@@DaaimShabazz Magnus had never played that line before. but somehow niemann prepped for it?
@@DaaimShabazzprep is not just guessing, there’s trillions if not more variance and possibility, you can’t remember just one and hope your opponent play into it, but he somehow with miracle does just that
Bravo. Respect. "I'm not bad at this game" actually sums it up perfectly. The understated truth always easy to hear.
Stuttering, touching his face as he says "I didn't do anything special", volunteers that he'd checked, as black, a line MC has by his own admission not played in 4 years on the morning of playing him. If I was at work as a fraud investigator I'd be flagging this file for more investigation.
god, thank you
Hans clearly without cheating kicked m.c. ass.
'I dont even want you to explain it to me, because I will lose my humanity" - this is why I like him.
it was a stupid thing for him to say. There are counterintuitive things on Earth which are rock solid, people in formal sciences had to accept it a long time ago, and they are just as human as before. As he gets older, he will stop saying stuff like that
@@jindrichzapletal5822 You missed his point apparently.
@@jindrichzapletal5822 Logically Hans is right, you cannot expect a human to play like machine for 50 moves or something... Mainly those sacrificial ideas under time pressure...
That’s idiotic
@@JuicersSuck he’s a cheater who couldn’t explain his own line lol
We all know Hans HAS cheated in the past, that doesn’t necessarily mean he’s cheating in St. Louis. In fact, none of us have any reason to know he is. It’s fine to be skeptical of such players but not okay to declare guilty.
the meat riding is crazy
Cheats never stop until they are forced to stop. The FACT that he has cheated in the past strongly suggests that he's still cheating. These people should just be banned from chess altogether. Chess has been competitively useless for a long time, now it's just who cheats or prepares the best and very little about chess itself. Hans' own analysis was embarrassing for a player of his supposed caliber. He's probably a 2000 without computer assistance.
When the best chess player in the world knows you're cheating to the point of not playing anymore, he's cheating. Why would I believe some RUclips viewers over the best player in the world? He cheated in some way period.
@@brianfarley4814 how is he cheating over the board and where is your evidence?
I would never cheat at all as it defeats the purpose of the challenge and learning, and shows contempt for others by violating them
Hans is such an interesting character in chess. One day he comes up with ''the chess speaks for itself'' and the next he's mimicking a typical Russian GM interview (the accent; ''but okay''; even making ingenuine pauses in his speech as if he's a non-native speaker who struggles to come up with the right set of words)
"interesting"
🤣🤣🤣 It does seem awfully put on
The persona breaks apart a few times during the interview. At 10:00 he's actually being authentic, the accents gone.
Nice cheering for a cheater
@@MrTaubenuss You watch too much Hikaru. Unless FIDE or STL confirms otherwise, he did not cheat.
Great interview. Lots of respect for Hans after this win.
this aged well.
Hans could be a cheater.
@@iamhere9573 lol fair point. "Had" lots of respect
@@WillToWinvlog True. Let's hope not.
ARE YOU SURE ABOUT THAT?
It's so hilarious that he's claiming to have remembered the entire line because he miraculously studied it that morning and then not under the pressure of the match he can't recall it. Then he says "I was very happy here with what I did" as he explains his moves but how is he so pleasantly surprised when he knows it's the main engine line lol. I find it all so sus.
He is absolutely right about the fact that younger players do not have the opportunity to play against the top 10 more often. I always thought about this. In most tournaments, we see the same players facing each other, which can be kind of boring.
Or the tournaments should be bigger, so they will be even more entertaining. Either that or chess teams like in the Olympiad, if it stays like it is it will never grow
Lmao. Enjoy the game please, it's doesn't matter who is playing
@@seelmodge7881 enjoy ? at this point its not enjoyable anymore event caruana also mention that they fight the same person its boring and predictable. chess need to be more diverse towards low elo community
This is because of ego. The high ranked players are afraid.
@@iAlbzGaming Bruh, there are tournaments event for the amateur players (Elo < 1500) and Pro players (Elo >2000).
The one you are watching are not some playground tournaments, it's always the same players over and over because their skills is top-notch and there aren't many of them, they may even crush any player who are 2600+ Elo.
"Chess speaks by its self"
-Hans Niemann , 2022
Speaks for itself*
Dont want to be pedantic, the quote is just better direct
Chess speaks with itself.
Chess speaks to itself
@@da96103 lol
Chess speaks about itself.
"Innocent until proven guilty" = "If I cannot discover a magicians trick I believe he really uses magic"
please please never sit on a jury
@@LegendLength this is not a court
@@mouwersor please never be a parent
@@mouwersor If you can't gather evidence then you should f*ck right off.
His accent has drastically changed bro…
He used to have a very Cali accent and now it’s very European, as if English is his second language. Strange man. This whole thing is fishy bro.
Seems like his software has been changed
Magnus has ticks, no, no, mannerisms. I dont want to get cancelled. This kid is priceless.
Not a cancel but it is spelled tic
@@jammerlammer546 tac
That one went over my head. I mean I realize that a small percentage of our society are professional victims that look for anything to be offended about, but by saying someone has tics can get you canceled now? Tics and mannerisms are essentially the same thing.
Not really one is neurological or psychosomatic the other one is just personality its a matter of will , I can control my ways of moving
@@JuicersSuck or Hans is ahead of the times, which is a good thing. Rather be ahead then be outdated and cringe later on in life.
Hans managed to prep against an opening Magnus has never played before. I call BS.
Why would he make up a line that magnus played? He wouldve known people wouldve looked for the game. More likely that it was just bad memory in my opinion
@@-Sceneshorts- i don’t think a bad memory. A gm his caliber studied a specific line but can’t name correctly who played those line? Kinda sus
@@-Sceneshorts- Fact is that guy was making engine moves, not human moves. Everyone saw it. Then he bragged about it.
Yep lol.
but he did indeed play it against wesley wtf is wrong with you
One of the best Hans Interview clearly shows how happy he is after winning against Magnus.
Shows the lengths he’d take to get that win
@Bilbo Fappins "It should have been an easy win for Magnus"
Sums up a lot of GMs' thoughts.
The lengths he'll go to win is more than just study his opponents, you know what it is but it's okay if you choose to be naive about it. After all, if you're a Hans fan, you know this is not the first time.
@Bilbo Fappins he studied his opponent, and a line his opponent has never played in his life because he just had a premonition of it being played
@@Dan-gi6tf lmao kys
@@ryanfarrell153 yes he has and HE LITERALLY SAID "MAGNUS PLAYED THIS AGAINST whomever".
How would he know that if he didn't actually study it???
After seeing people like Levy say that Hanz didn't have much of a chance to win and everyone memeing on him all last tournament, yeah I don't blame him for a word he says I'd be talking all kinds of trash too
Levy was probably the most supportive chess creater after these things. Levy just memes everything including his play and his games too. Hans is right about his situation but you just can not name someone who is on Han's side as a "blame man", It wouldn't be fair dude. Really.
I'd really love to see Magnus' thoughts on this game as well. Would be fun comparing their views.
I doubt that's ever going to happen. Even if, after analyzing this game (including his time management and at which moments he gets off the board) and his analyses in the post-game interviews, people slowly come to the realization that there is really nothing of substance as basis for suspecting that Hans Niemann cheated, with such a big ego and insecurity that Magnus has, he's going to refuse to talk about this game, because he's SUPER embarrassed about it. (Not only that he lost as black against a sub-2700, but he also withdraws from the tournament because of it.)
@@TernaryM01 Why would Magnus being embarrassed losing to a cheat? He's the goat lol.
@@TernaryM01 Magnus played White
@@LeWooloo My bad. I clearly made an inaccuracy there. I meant to say White.
Magnus impressed me again, very good game against stockfish!
It's def a feat to get a win and a tie against SF15. Congrats Magnus
Yes, hans is stockfish level! What a player!
"1,5 years ago I was stuck at 2480 and then I suddenly got to 2600 in a short time and just started winning every open from there." -Hans Fritz Deepmann after new software update
@@Xxymor yeah but magnus lost
When’s the last time Magnus lost playing white against a player in the 2600’s ??
Like 10 years ago
@@456death654 In classical.
The memory of these guys is just ridiculously goog.
💥The game was great, but the interview was a MASTERPIECE. This guy is great for chess, he's an amazing player and pure entertainment: you just want to hear him speak.
Respectfully disagree from a personal perspective. Nothing he’s said or done has ever surprised me. It’s all so predictable. I don’t blame him for it, he’s putting on a show and people are buying into it so that’s great for his professional career. My annoyance is more with the audience who think his persona is novel, unique or funny. He’s just another other basic 19 year old American, Gen Z kid in regards to the persona he puts out. I imagine his personality and speech only seems unique bc he just happens to be one of, if not the only, that the chess community is exposed to lately.🤷🏻♀️
Chess speaks for itself either way
PS: I have a duck video, a chicken video, a video where i am begging for money on Twitter, a walking video, a video where i am playing with my nuts. A short with a blog. A Naruto Arena video... Also a patreon
@@raylopez99 yes, I heard the European accent, I don't understand why, he was born in San Francisco, USA.
@@raulsardinas2584 He lived in the Netherlands for a number of years as a child.
And with high probability, he cheated. People don't magically gain 200 rating points in skill overnight. ppl will be analyzing these games with engines and high scrutiny.
How refreshing to have such an interview. The future of chess televised!
Why is there a sense of passive aggressiveness coming from the panel? They need to be more grateful with 20 mins of this mans time.
As someone on a chess forum pointed out, 10:30 - 10:40 Hans fiddles behind his ear and you hear a mechanical clicking noise. He is wearing a lapel mic rather than any sort of headset. I haven’t heard this anywhere else in the broadcast and Alejandro does not seem to be moving.
That is really clutching at straws. Ten seconds later he puts his hand right through that spot, probably dislodging any so called device anyway. What a witch-hunt.
The click sounds like his mouth to me.
He makes great points about the top 10 being kind of a closed, monied elite that kinda get 99% of the chess pie, and that it’d be better if the pie could grow for the next generation. Chess would be better for it.
The chess “pie” is very small compared to other sports, so it makes sense. Besides you are forgetting there are streamers who get some of it by playing chess without being one of the top players
@@Kizdo69 grandmasters can also make a living by coaching etc., but it's not really living off playing as such, just teaching.
Fabi, not that long ago basically stated the same thing. " Playing the same players over and over has become stale, predictable and boring." I'm sort of paraphrasing but it's basically what he said.
All things work like that. It’s called the 90-10 rule. 10% of a community gets 90% of the view/money. And the other 90% have to share the 10% of money/views left over
The top 10 get 99% of the chess pie. So, on other words it's just like any other "thing" that amounts to trying to turn what is generally a hobby, into a career.
"A good player is always lucky." - Jose Raul Capablanca
Hans in the interview calls this occurrence (his prep working perfectly against magnus) a 'miracle', but at this point, he is just a good player.
Diligence is the mother of luck- ben franklin
Chess as a game should nearly always result in a draw. Even with perfect play you technically shouldn’t win. So a win implies that your opponent made a mistake (usually several). Humans making mistakes is guaranteed, but the world champ making losing mistakes in a game you make almost 0 mistakes in is somewhat lucky.
Basically if he’s playing stockfish he has 0 chance of winning.
That doesn’t take anything away from his top level performance, but its fair to note that a win in chess is practically the fault of the loser not the winner and relying on someone else to make a mistake adds inherent chance/luck.
@@augustuscaeser5895 I partially agree. When playing chess perfectly, in the mathematical sense, it is widely-held that it ends in a draw given zero mistakes, so the win really belongs to the loser. Likewise, the loss belongs to the loser.
But take lower rated players and their games as examples. Surely, their opponents will blunder their rooks, and surely they will miss the tactic that wins the rooks. To them it wasn’t obvious that there was a winning move at all. Getting better at chess is about making mistakes that are less and less obvious, so kudos to those who have a keen eye and are lucky enough to pick up on the increasingly subtle mistakes that require evermore precision to exploit!
Did Capablanca said that? Strange.
Is this the first cheating incident of Hans that you heard of?
First minute of the interview and I'm already calling it bullshit.
He doesn't remember why he checked a specific line? WHAT??
What is intuition
This is going to go down in history as one of the greatest legendary trolls in history. I am expecting a documentary on this from HBO in 2024 which will be a mix of Ali G and Out for blood.
I enjoy Hans. He's an interesting guy. It's been fun following his career. The interview was fantastic. Hans was a great sport and any chess fan surely enjoyed listening to it. However, I do have one complaint about this video. While Alejandro was great and I think he did a great job of bringing about good conversation, he did forget one important question: where that accent from bro?
The accent must be trolling. Up until 2020 he sounded like an American teenager. He'll probably drop the accent at will one day in a few years to the shock of everyone, lol.
It sounds like his accent is a combination of accents from all the top players. Maybe being surrounded by a multitude of different accents has affected his cadence and pronunciations? I dunno. Weird.
@@Wargasm54 I've lived abroad many times as an American, and there is no conceivable way to lose a native accent by sporadic late-in-life influence alone. Definitely an affectation, he speaks normally as recently as a year ago.
@@otherwords1375 I’ve lived abroad for 17 years of my 56. I was born in Germany. I’ve traveled the globe extensively. And I’ve found myself picking up odd inflections and dialects . Generally not noticed until someone points it out. I lived in the south for a while. And when I moved to California everyone asked me if I was from the south. I was only there for 2 years. Maybe it’s just me.
@@Wargasm54 That's not a fair analogy though. English is his native tongue and he had a pronounced American accent until very recently. He now speaks, grammatically and tonally, like English is not his native language. Many people do change their accents or vocabulary subtly overtime due to their environment but this is ludicrously extreme. Some of his phrasings and pronunciations used here can only lead to the conclusion that Hans is somewhat consciously changing the way he speaks.
He truly didn’t understand why the moves he played were supposed to be played. It’s amazing,on top of his interview being barely comprehensible. 😑😑
Question to GM Yasser Seirawan if he sees this by any chance, does Hans remind you of a young Jan Timman? Rebelious, free spirited (even a bit hippish) and overflowing with energy.
Ehm no, I can't remember Timman ever expressed himself in such a bold way.
Dude, watch "The Love for Wood", it's available here. Young Timman was super chill and unpretentious, not at all like Hans.
I probably don't believe this theory myself, because it's quite far-fetched, but I've seen a few people say that sometimes there's an audible click when Hans puts his hand in the hair on the side of his head. I noticed that at least once in this video as well, at 10:36. And if you watch the other interview he did after Round 1 there's a similar audible click when he does the same thing at 1: 59 into that video. Is it some audio equipment the production team told him to wear? Can someone please just disprove this stupid theory so I don't have to think about it? lol
Uau...
that's a smoking gun if one ever will be found. Thanks for mentioning this.
@@panaceiasuberes6464 it's not a smoking gun of anything. you literally have no idea what that sound is. lol
Thats literally a dry mouth smacking. Analyze it in audacity.
@@STFxSpartan this is a joke right
link to the full game?
The mind of a wicked sick genius, he yells, he mumbles, whispers, he changes tone all in 3 seconds.
Dude wth, his coach must be a 65 y.o. russian grandmaster or sth, that he hangs out with 24/7. I swear to god all these "..yeas?!" between sentences. He even sounds like he has a slight accent now...Dudes from freaking New York lol.
@@mxewris2355 New Yorkers have an accent. Only people on the West Coast of the US don't.
@@yzfool6639 Come on there's no way you misunderstood what a mean. He doesnt have a New Yorker accent I meant a very slight foreign one.
@@mxewris2355 He's from San Francisco*
At 3:24 he jumps quickly back to the game to avoid making other blunders!
Magnus shouldn't be embarrassed loosing to Stockfish.
Actually Komodo.
He's just a bit eccentric...for now. Brilliant young mind.
My money’s on a vibrating buttplug.
One of the greatest chess interview of all time.
Definitely. The laughs this gave me 😂
It speaks for itself.
The way he calls it a "miracle" sounds like textbook lying, this it's the way I used to magically "find" things that I had stolen as a kid
"it was a miracle i checked this line this morning, i have no idea why i did but. I checked. This line this morning for absolutely no reason" says someone who has bo idea how to evaluate a posistion. The freaking guy running the analysis board was finding better moves than him instantaneously. This dude hands down cheater. Magnus has never withdrawn from a tournameent, hes lost to worse players, and EVERY TO LEVEL GM IS BASICALLY SAYING HE CHEATED WITHOUT COMING OUT AND SAYING IT. After this fiasco id be shocked if he gets invited to more high level events
Accusations are accusations lmao. Hans has had post game analysis interviews before and he did them with no problem, keep crying lmao. Watch some other games other than this tourney bruh.
@@SavantGardeEX Wasn't he banned from online play for a while due to cheating?
This dude has no degree, fake accent, is uncomfortable in the spotlight, and yet chooses to continually put himself out there. Respect, kinda impressed how far (cheating?) and being generally dismissive of other people gets you these days.
He has no degree because he's 19 years old
i like this Hans and the way how he speaks his mind !! Perfecto !!
Jeez, and an IM just a year ago. Hans is a beast
A few reasons for suspected cheating:
“By some miracle I looked up this opening this morning” is awfully suspicious.
8:00-8:10 or so… Do I need to explain?
His whole manner seems awfully nervous. He seems tense, especially at the start.
He can’t remember what was played in the game and can’t explain thought processes behind most moves.
10:36 or so, he clicks something in his ear.
It’s late at night for me right now, so I’ll stop trying to analyze this, but these are just a few things that jumped out to me. Someone commented that the click happens at 2:00 in his first interview too, I’ll check that later. Of course none of these things are to suspicious by themself (except the ear thing, that’s just weird), but together it seems *very* suspicious.
"he must feel demoralized, losing to an idiot like me"... LOL 🤣🤣🤣
You do realize that that was a backhanded compliment, right? Hans did great, but that comment was really meant to boost his own ego.
@@A_Few_Thoughts Yes, because the victory alone wasn't enough to do that.
At 1:30 Hans mentions that Magnus played the variation vs. Wesley So at the London Chess Classic in 2018, but Magnus did not play that event. Not only this, but prior to this tournament Magnus had never played g3 in this opening.
EDIT: It seems that Magnus has played g3 before, but I can only find 2 games and I'm not sure if they were classical games. Carlsen vs Berg 2007 and Carlsen vs Leko 2006
Magnus played the g3 Nimzo versus So indeed in the 2019 Tâta Steel India blitz. A draw. Exactly the line that Hans Nieman is talking about, without the move a2-a3.
@@viktorgoa Wrong, not the same line, completely different pawn structure
@@viktorgoa Wesley played c5 in that line, so it's not the same. I'm looking for g3 after Bb4 or a transposition into it.
thanks detective
And Blitz? You cant compare with classical anyway.
Carlsen lost to Niemann in Round 3 yesterday, what a huge surprise. Win in material, Carlsen dumped to knight fork that made him lose the rook without any compensation. It is said that GMs always think in long calculation, but as we see, that blunder only happens in merely a single move. Everyone may have his own judgement about this.
Where the fook did his accent come from? I used to watch him on Twitch, and never noticed it.
It’s a theatrical affect.
From around 10:33 he appears to turn a switch off something behind his ear hidden in his hair, likely unaware the clicks were picked up clearly by the mic.
Goddamn ur right
Oh jeeze. Yeah, he's "cheating" in the interview...for...reasons.
Guys at 10:36 it's clear that he is cheating. Look that click sound !?
Funny the way Hans scratches his face when he says he checked the line this morning. Classic sign of deception from a known (admitted) cheater.
Sometimes we read too much into things. Or maybe not. Wisdom is often the ability to say "I don't know" rather than saying "I know more from intuition than fact"
People when Hans won: “Congratulations”
People after they saw Magnus’ twitter: “OmG HaNs iS a ChEAtEr”
Its so sad to see people getting manipulated and changing their opinions so quickly
Not a big issue.. People are noobs and need to be shown what a cheater he is
@@DarkKnight-mc5uo No evidence as of yet.
Why the accent tho? Super sus
@@mariotravieso8731 What's wrong with the accent? There are multiple people that sometimes switch accents when talking, especially when they know multiple languages, it happens to me.
his body language when he said he checked it this morning suggests he's lying. he's touching his face and body and he is tense.
I like how Hans talked about how engines rated like 3600 holding an endgame is very different from even someone like Magnus holding and endgame. Honestly I dunno if he cheated, the whole situation is very confusing
Now we know he's a cheat, all this admiration in the comments look ridiculous.
Watch two minutes of this and it's obvious the guy s a cheat.
It’s because he’s not only a cheater, he’s also a con-man. A smooth talking BS artist, and the people are eating it up because they want to believe such a belligerent and contrarian personality could genuinely upset the apple cart.
@@jllamb88 Faking an accent too. I used to watch his streams a lot 28 months ago, he did not speak like this.
Lmao after all this months, I just saw this clip.. the interviewer know or heavily suspecting that Hans indeed cheating.
This is the best Ivanchuk I've seen him do
Yeah what's going on with his accent? He's from the US, isn't he?
@@BiggyJimbo Some sort of trolling, undoubtedly. He's a weirdo but very gifted.
@@otherwords1375 I'm not convinced he's a real GM. Something seems off about him.
Since when does he have this accent? Where is he from?
“It’s such a ridiculous miracle… I don’t even remember why I checked it…”. Perhaps it was the vibrating beads in your colon that prompted you? 😂📿
Saint Louis Chess Club please keep this interview up there in the Web I will use it for further analysis.
I'm not really a chess player I played it a few times but there's one thing I am is I analyze people and I'm an analyst and I know people I'm a people person that dude is cocky and arrogant and he's definitely acted like he's hiding something in this case I would say more probable than not the dudes cheating
they're all cocky lol
Great format of interview. Chess interviews should be like this very informative
Just my theory, but Hans had access to what magnus was going to play. It would be groundbreaking if there was over the board cheating, but he does admit to checking this line in the morning. I think the morning prep before a game with the best player in the world would be important, it's odd to not remember what you were prepping for, when asked in that same day.
Obviously these are big accusations, but I also don't think magnus would withdraw for nothing, and according to Hikaru he's never seen Magnus lose like this before. I assume Magnus knows something we don't, which would be related to his team or close friends. There probably won't be any proof coming out, but it would make the story make sense. Hans knew what was going to be played, checked extremely deep in this line while magnus had to calculate and lose in a one sided slaughter.
Not that it counts as hard evidence, but Hans has been suspended multiple times for using an engine online. It would make sense for him to check these lines with engines if he knew the line.
If he had this exact line in his mind and had studied it why early on take 12 min to move ?
So if he knew Magnus prep? Imagine to quickly learn a line. I mean, Hans is pretty good at chess to learn a counter line in the morning before the match.
@@mhhmmmmhmm I suspect its more than just knowing what the prep was, but knowing what magnus wanted to get to. It becomes a matter of having 3 hours to prep a deep line, versus magnus having to calculate that deep line from scratch.
When you *start* your prep from a line that is already further than most GMs' prep, while you are also a GM, you end up playing the mid game like an engine. That's what I suspect happened.
Thats how my little son answers when he wants to hide the fact that he ate sweets before dinner, everytime I question him, this is his usual reaction...so absolutely this guy cheated. no shadow of a doubt! 🤣🤣🤣
Constant touching in his face. Body language speaks loud here
10:36 are we not gonna talk about the clicking noise as he reaches behind his ear
omg this is sad. this is going to be immortal in the chess world. Everyone's going to know the pompous fool that thought he could get away with cheating against the world champion. I'm guessing the soccer coach was the man with a phone in the audience giving signals.
0:20 When you did not study for your exam and you looked up only one topic in the morning and that is the essay question that came out.
Chess speaks for itself!
And Hans has proven that Magnus is no match for Komodo. 😂
with an assumed accent !
Who the hell is this guy!!! Chess has been waiting for him for a long time. Superstar born overnight. Wow this interview has to have put Magnus in his place. The nerve of this kid.
The fact Magnus played an obscure line and as soon as it was obvious Hans knew the line and had by some "miracle" the night before looked at it, suggests Magnus's prep had been leaked before the game. As soon as that was evident to Magnus OTB he left the tournament as it confirmed to him (in his mind at least) his suspicions. Its patently obvious that Hans couldn't explain the position or how to close it out from that point onwards. Even Alejandro (who is a good player) was outplaying him on the analysis. Reputation tarnished forever Hans. Good job.
Outplaying him by saying "the computer is telling me it's a draw"
Magnus Carlsen always retires when he knows 100% that he's going to lose because he's a very, very bad loser, which wouldn't be Magnus Carlsen's first time either
The guy is telling him that his explanation is suspect. Right to his face. And the comment section is too dumb to understand that
they should make a documentary on this.