Lelit Mara X Cappuccino after 8 days
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- Опубликовано: 28 мар 2021
- I am progressing and improving. I have made a couple of videos now, 2 I will upload today. I am happy to see the progress I've made in just a week, even though my latte art in this vid was a disaster :). My pump pressure was a bit lower than usual when extracting my double shot 18g. Otherwise it is always at 9.5 bar (set from factory).
Although in the end I didn't get the foam as I wanted haha. It got too thick , and also I think I was too quick to use the machine after it had being in eco mode.
Normally the frothing is really quick(not too quick, but just perfect) and nothing I have to worry about in terms of waiting for it. You just have to know how it works. I don't see any problem with it being capable of pulling back to back shots.
After starting the pump I it has a nice pressure that encreases slowly in the beginning after starting the pump on the mara x.
My first drops usually are between 10-12sec, I've heard that some use the lever half way a little to soak the coffee before starting the pump. So I far I don't find that necessary. What do you think?
I will check what temperature settings I have on the machine. I was a bit confused since I have 3 settings on the front and 2 settings on the right side and did not really know which of them that did what (espresso mode steam mode , hot or warm, maybe read the manual maybe ? Haha )
This week- end I have been playing around with it trying different grind sizes and improved my routine with distribution even though I yet don't have a proper leveler.
What I now would like also is to learn different recipes also for for example americano (now I have what I call my own strong americano 18gr in and around 42 grams out plus around 50grams water on top), Macciato latte, cappuccino and flat white
No need to do a pre flush on this machine! That’s one of the nice things about it. I have the same setup, and really enjoying the output. Keep having fun my friend.
Thanks my friend:)
I haven’t had it for a long time and you are right about the “no flushing part” although sometimes when I’ve had it on for a long time, even after awakening it from eco mode, when I flush... I hear a “steaming noise “ from brew head/group indicating that it is too hot ...
I am not sure why it is.
Also, sometimes I just do it cause I have it as a routine:) sometimes cause it is after another shot and it rinses “ last shots coffee” that maybe got stuck in the shower screen.
Nice to hear from another “member of the “ Lelit family “ ☺️
I wish I new more about how the beans behave with grinder. I now have bought the 3rd bag of beans and these beans are more soapy after the shots in the pf when I knock off the puck...(first bag, another brand were a bit dryer and easier to handle).
I also find the grinder to clump a bit when going as fine as it is required for 25- 30 sec from pump start.
Talked to another guy who did “burr alignment “ and he has no clumping whatsoever he said after that... maybe I just buy too cheap beans ... we will see...
I will elaborate this and see. I have to get a good scale... the one I have is not reliable unfortunately. So I do a lot guessing.
I am great full for all the advice and cheering I get from all you guys 🙏🏻
hey Dick, it's just a habit alright! lol
May i ask what is the coarse number of the grinder? I usually set 0.5-0.8, 0 is almost the finest limit...
I really don’t remember what I had back then…
Nowadays , depending on beans I have mostly between 1.5- 2.0. But from what I have heard some say that the setting is different between the grinders even if it is the same eureka specialita. I’m no expert though:). Sometimes I think I hear the burrs touch even before 0. When you dial in at 0.5-0.8 … do you hear them touching?
Ethiopian beans are are dialed me in even finer than my normal settings
The art is all in practice my friend, not to worry ;)
It so typical , before I made the video I managed to an Ok latte art ☺️
But practice is the way 🙏🏻
Nice setup
Hi, nice video, I wanted to tell you instead of the cell phone you can count the flashes of the lamp in the machine, each flicker is 2 seconds, you will have the easiest
really?!!!! Wow, why did I not know that ?! haha
Since then I've bought a scale with timer...
But the ideal scenario would be that I do not need scale or timer, just watch the lamp and the color of the coffee... that is my dream-scenario to go pro, right ? :)
When I watch this video I feel a bit embarassed at the same time I feel a bit proud ... I made many mistakes but at the same time I have progressed very much since then haha
Thanks very much for your comment!
Thats a nice one
dude.... random ASF .... but that little thing you used to distribute the coffee..... is that the paddle puller thing from a bread machine? lol
Haha
What do you expect? Real pro experience from a guy that has never done this before ? 😅 . This was a long time ago and the journey has been great ✌🏻
Latte Art is overrated ;) Beautyful Setup!
Haha
Thanks for for the kind words ☺️🙏🏻
I was a little sad though because just before I made the video I had succeeded with an ok latte art:)
But it is typical when recording haha
First bag of coffee was easy to dial in but now with second(another brand other beans) is harder . Today I hit 25sec with ratio 18 in and 36 out but it still taste a bit bitter. Also imo I had to go super fine with these beans and some clumping then appears unfortunately (probably normal).
Maybe I just don’t like these beans. Plus, w
Also, I find it actually a bi hard to evaluate some of the variables that can affect the taste. I mean, one could go a bit coarser and tamp harder and still get the same amount of time and grams in the cup just as you also can go a bit finer but not tamp so hard 😊
Thanks for the video. I got the exact same setup for two months now and coming from a Gaggia Classic I got to say I‘m really enjoying the consistency :) My question to you guys: did you notice the pump getting louder by time? With my machine it’s different from shot to shot. Sometimes it’s okay like in this video and then with the next shot it’s extremely loud. Anybody got the same experience?
To answer your question quickly- the answer is no . I advise you to talk to your dealer or create a ticket at Lelit care center.
They seem solid and are helpful with warranty issues. I don’t hear anything different with the pump from day one.
Hope you get it sorted out.
Nice to hear from another Gaggia classic upgrader “ :)
I just got the naked porta filter and leveler from Lelit
Haven’t tried it yet though.
Good luck and let me know how it goes.
@@AzizIzgin Wow. Thanks for your quick response and all your helpfull advises!
Had a naked porta filter for the GC and will definetly get one for the Mara.
Thanks again and have a great week.
@@schoenimzweitakt any time
I will try to upload more videos soon. My knowledge is really minimal compared with other “heavy coffee nerds “ 😅 but I feel like a part of the Lelit family “ now and try to contribute with some experience now and then since others that are in research of buying a coffee machine might get an idea of how it is in a real life scenario . (Have to excuse my English) It is a hobby that has grown on me now and am happy to be able to have this opportunity.
@@AzizIzgin I feel the same way regarding my coffee scene experience 😄
Not that I want to dive too deep into it...whatever every-day-user videos like yours are more helpful than the 110th „how to do latte art“-video.
Your English is much better than mine as far as I can say as a non-native-speaker as well 😄
@@schoenimzweitakt 😅😊🙏🏻✌🏻
How many gramme do you put on the cup we cannot heard you when you talk .
Oh sorry. This video was made only for practice and I was quite new at the time. I think I did a ratio of 1:2 meaning that I had 18grams of beans and 36grams in the cup.
Go finer with the grinder, your coffe is to corse: extraction time very fast and presseure was 6 bars, way to low! Your MaraX comes from factory calibrated at 10 bars! Practice at 10 after a while make the set up at 9 bars! Cheers!
🙏🏻
Now after a month this looks very different:)
But are right.
Although extraction time was 25/26 seconds from when pump started
So it is ok
Others start from first drop but then it is too long
@@AzizIzgin sorry, no. 6 bars is your exact warning flag of coarse grind. Timer is irrelevant, just look for grams/volumes if your machine has good temperature for long periods like maraX. Get the exact pressure first, then modify tamp and temp if you dislike the flavor 👍
@@coffeeguy 🙏🏻
Thanks, I’ll keep in mind that timer is not as important. This was literally my first week with the machine and you have to excuse me inexperience as a home barista 😆
I have progressed since then. Today my pressure is always at 10bars but I’ve heard that 9 is the sweet spot?
I have been trying out different methods and beans etc. It has been an awesome journey.
Sometimes I get some grinded coffee in the cup and don’t know why…
Also , I clean it more often now than bed but unfortunately then I also have to lubricate the leaver for the e61 it seems…
Regarding the grind that I get into the cup… some say that the distance from the shower screen is too far from the basket or something similar and that they have bought a “sleeve “ for it as a workaround… is this something you’ve heard?
What I will do in the future is to make the “operation of the water bypass to the tank” so it doesn’t use too much water and also maybe try out the flow control kit.
Thanks again for your comment.
@@AzizIzgin you look truly enthusiastic and I hope it will always be like this. I haven’t use mara X yet, it is on the way, but I get that coffee in the cup too with Kate (not an issue with Anita-57mm lelit filter). I think two reasons: 1- IMS filter has bigger and less number of holes compared to VST and the stock lelit basket. 2- it is due to the inconsistency of the grinder, and with a full basket, if you tap a few times to make it level, you send those smaller particles to the bottom of filter before you tamp. Although not sure about it. If you get any ideas or try something please let me know the outcome.👋
How do you descale it ? Yourself or by professional ?
Actually descaling is not recommended unless you really need to do it. The key is to soften the water all the time so you don’t need to descale it. I always use water softener from Lelit in the tank and do back flushes to keep it clean.
If you want to descale it you don’t need a professional. I believe Lelit has a video regarding it or just google it for this machine.
Nice latte art you got there.
☺️, actually in the end of this video I was so sad for messing it all up 😆, in Swedish I went “oh no, terrible “ :)
But I am still happy , this was a week after having purchased the machine and now I’ve progressed since then.
What coffee drinks are your favorites?
@@AzizIzgin I'm my self have non about Latte art that's why my choice of coffee are Caffè Americano or French Press as long as it doesn't engage with any form of art 🙃. Love your setup by the way.
How long does it take to warm up (from when you turn it on to when it is ready to use)?
If you turn it on manually it takes 22 minutes before the temperature it stabilizes but really you don’t have to worry about that. Just buy a timer that you can you can set to a certain time when it starts and shuts down. You can also remotely turn it on and off.
I turn it in when at work for example and it is ready when I come home :)
@@AzizIzgin Thank you so much. That is definity what I'll do. Merci
Everytime someone made a Cappuccino this way, an italian barman die.
🤣 very true
Some Tips and Tricks: Use a Dosing Funnel it would save you some Time You could grind all your 18g into the Portafilter without Stop to compress the Powder.
And dont Twist/rotate when Tamping. On your video you sadly tamped uneven when you "corrected"
Mi diresti la marca ed il modello del macinacaffè?
Eureka specialita
What have you put under the feet, there are some nice feet on the internet but at daft price.
I chose cheap feet, same as I use under my furniture chairs in the kitchen 😅.
I don’t see them, as long as they do the job .
If its any consolation your latte art is better than mine!! :-D Insåg nu att du också är Svensk! Går det fortsatt bra med MaraX + Eureka?
Tack !
Ja det går fortsatt bra😊 .
Älskar denna pjäs verkligen och ångrar inte en sekund. Jag trodde jag redan svarat en gång på den n fråga men hittar inte det så jag provar igen :).
Jag har haft en liten paus fr uppladdning av ny video men orkade med två stycken igår iaf . Återkom om det är ngt du undrar över eller om du själv sitter på mycket erfarenhet och vill dela med dig.
Ha en fin dag ✌🏻
@@AzizIzgin Gillar verkligen också min MaraX. Har du hittat några favoritbönor då? Jag gillar verkligen Bam Bam från Lykke och Monsun Malabar från Götheborg.
@@scider2 jag har faktiskt hittat det bästa ”billiga” kaffet (so far).
Svenskt rosteri. Det står bara ”The Espresso Whole bean coffee” på paketet”
Sedan har jag hittat en prisvärd lite finare böna också från svenskt rosteri på Maria Torget och dessa säljs 250gr på Lidl:) tror paketet kostar ca 90kr. Dyrare men lite mer finkaffe:)
Brukar köra lite högre temperatur med den.
Det finns säkert godare än vad jag hittat hittills men är rätt nöjd med dem än så länge. Bara jag inte tröttnar .
@@AzizIzgin Aha, så Lidl säljer finkaffe, brukar aldrig handla hos dom fast det måste jag kolla upp. Har beställt en flow control som jag snart får hem, ska bli spännande att testa!
@@scider2 ja
När jag ställer frågan efter kaffet är det sällan personal som ens vet att det finns. Det är i en annan speciell sektion av lite finare varor
Man, that tamp is really really tilted to the side. You have to tamp even and flat
Yes you are so right
This was just for practice… it was a while ago. ✌🏻
Oh my goodness. Tamp right on your table with no tamping mat or station? Yikes. Only timing the extraction time but no weighing your extraction? How do you know your grinding is consistent?
No worries,
I was just learning here , it was only a week after I bought the machine… just getting to know the machine a bit and setting up a workflow.
It’s a good thing I’ve progressed since then .
Pulling the lever 1/2 way is for pre-infusion. You should try it.
🙏🏻
I actually do that now in my latest videos after having progressed 2-3 months. Even my first drop comes out around 8sec instead of 10-12sec which gives me a longer “visual extraction time” 😊.
On the Mara X lifting handle part way will not pre infuse as the machine has no pressure to E61 group when pump is not running, the pre infusion feature only works on machines connected to mains water with E61 groups
@@martinrichards7109 sorry to say but you are wrong here, it does come out water when lifting half way:), at least my machine does 😊
I wouldn’t have done it if it didn’t.
But as you say… it is almost without any pressure…
@@AzizIzgin Hi Azzin, that is only the pressure created by expansion in the heat exchanger and is very hot water at random pressure this is really what I mean by no pre infusion as such. But hey if it works for you that is all that matters its your machine/ coffee and should only ever be what you like and enjoy. The Mara X is a great little machine enjoy it whatever you do.
@@martinrichards7109 you are right…
I have not yet as much experience but try different methods.
Thanks for informing how it works 🙏🏻
Ça coûte combien
It depends on where you buy it from. I imported it from Spain. They have a website that had a good price , better than Sweden. Don’t remember exactly. Their name was something with “e-cafe” or es-cafe” or something similar.
Grind finer, your shot is way too fast (too much liquid and bright Créma)
thanks for your comment, you are right about the grind size. Now after about 2 months this looks very different :). Now that I have a bit more experience and know which beans work best for me it is easier to get it right. It is now darger and I have a ratio of 1:2 mostly.. one thing though I find a bit confusing. Since my first drops come out at aroubd 10-11 sec the duration of the extraction is maximum of 18-20, I think it would be nicer to have the first drop to come out at around 6-8 seconds instead but I can't manage to make it happen so far,
Same here, depending on the beans and basket size I use, the first drops came between 5 and 10 sec, all normal. It also depends on what pump you are using, vib pump needs a bit longer to serve the pressure
@@77whiteman today I go with 17,5gr in and around 36 out…
I try to
Lift the leaver half way to just let some water in the basket for a few sec before let the pump start.
It has been a good tasting coffee so far with these beans.
Don’t know, some tell me to adjust the pressure to 9 bar instead of 10 and that that should make a difference…
What do you think?