What I think of the Rancilio Silvia Pro X after 4 months...
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- Опубликовано: 27 июл 2024
- Yep I'm giving you an update on my espresso journey with this machine.
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CHAPTERS:
0:00 intro
1:00 warm up time
2:00 hot water switch
3:08 water capacity/how long it lasts
3:40 James Hoffman's Critique of the drip tray
4:29 steamer wand
5:00 pressure guage
5:05 temperature control
5:24 it's kind of a crappy menu
6:10 pre-infusion mode
6:40 portafilter
7:08 pulling a shot on the machine
8:15 taste test
8:35 steaming milk
10:10 how to raise the drip tray grill
10:38 PID control
10:55 final thoughts/is it worth it? 
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*Just wanted to say, I timed the warm up time for steam and it was only about 12 minutes today.
Thank you for the information .I was thinking that 20-25 min is too long. I'm considering buying the same machine, but i drink a lot of milk-based drinks, so the steam function is very important to me.
@@rolex84 I will say that I served an entire 20-30 office mates with this over the course of a couple hours - all with latte based drinks and it held up. Not to make you change your mind, but it's fairly quick and can keep going once heated up.
@@DannyPops That's all I needed to know. Thank you!
This was a cool review because it didn't seem like you knew what you were doing, lol. But that's a compliment. Like a real person reviewing a real product.
Nice, I was looking at upgrading the home machine for a while and I keep ending up coming back to this one. As someone who values function over form, it's good to hear this machine can do it all.
Thanks for a realistic and approachable tour of this machine. Ours arrived today and I can’t wait to play with it.
i'm excited for you! It's a gem and a tank.
Had my Rancilio Single group head, USB for 5years...sturdy as hell! Loving every second of it!🙂
Thank you, Danny. I'm in the market again. Owned two Rancilio's in the past. Great demo.
I use this weekly now for my office and it never stops. Amazing machine
Wow, this review is incredibly helpful! I had been considering starting a coffee bar on the side, and I was about to ask for recommendations on Reddit for a home espresso machine that could handle the demands of a small business.
I've been making coffee at home for a while now, and I often bring my Aeropress and Flair 58 to make espresso at family and friends events. My friends have been encouraging me to turn this into a side hustle, and recently, two of them offered to help me get started with the customer service side. I'm thrilled about the possibility!
Our search for an espresso machine has been focused on finding one that's small enough to transport easily for events. However, we also need it to be capable of pulling back-to-back shots without overheating or malfunctioning. We all have full-time jobs, so this side hustle will only operate on weekends, with a maximum of two bookings per month.
After watching your review, I believe the Racilio Silvia Pro X is the perfect choice for us. It sounds like this machine can handle the demands of our small business, and the fact that we have a reputable distributor in our area gives us peace of mind regarding after sale support.
Thanks for the 4 month update. Makes me feel like I made the right decision to upgrade to the Pro X after my 2008 Silvia died recently. Just waiting on delivery now. You are right about the costs of installing a PID, I installed one on my 2008 model. And yea, the PID is coming out of the old unit :)
Thanks! Just upgraded from a Silvia to the Pro X. A lot of variables!
Pleased to see you’re able to cope with low wall cabinets. I have the same situation and thought I might be restricted to side loading reservoirs such as Ascaso or Quick Mill. Nice to know I can consider the Rancilio.
07:41 Make sure to always use 'autoflush' before starting a shot with pre-infusion (simply hold the brew switch for a second until it says 'F'). Otherwise the water path in the brew head might be empty, no or only little pre-infusion will happen.
The manual actually recommends to ALWAYS do an 'autoflush' before a shot (with or without pre-infusion)
Nice review!
Amazing “normal person “ review for non engineers interested in the hobby. Thanks!
Can you program the brew switch for automatic volume control, or is it strictly push on, push off?
That was great. 99% of the people who buy this machine have the money but not the barista skills. Too many reviewers speak a language none of us care to understand. If you are that professional you can talk to people in the know, or your group on [platform of choice}. I took a one day course when I purchased my original machine. I got an after market PID and it was fun to install. While some people talk about perfect temps, most mortals would be fine with 200. Like your PC, most mortals never use 100% of the functions. But you use many of them and Rancilio covers these really well. This is a prosumer machine so perfection is not allowed. Otherwise, you are going to spend more. I've heard so much chatter about the drip tray and it is amusing. No, not 100% but really? Or the wand's rubber is too small. Again, really? You could fix that want issue in a heartbeat by buying a larger piece of rubber with a little grip on it. I once saw a review by a professional and he was admiring the crema which he admitted was a useless element other than looks. Great crema v. no crema didn't effect how he graded the quality of the taste. I have a pod machine at work, Nespresso, and the crema is always perfect and amazing. The shots are still iffy on a good day. Bottom line, great review, great use of language for the people who are going to buy this. The people who are turning up their noses are at the wrong pool party. We are splashing around having a heck of a time making some very decent coffee and they are in the Olympic pool , analyzing their strokes and trying to save milliseconds off of their times.
Wow that was a really genuine take and a sincere compliment! Thank you from all of the normal people!
Nice review. It actually covered a lot.
Love my Breville, small, fast and good...for now. This looks like a nice big long term machine.
My Silvia is 16 years old and counting...
I've got the exact same machine and i love it. However ive got the Pantechnicon aftermarket drip tray which is so much better.
I was considering that too! I've actually been serving drinks to raise money at work for our holiday party, and it's not been too bad with the drip tray.
It's the best machine I've used. My only criticisms are two fold, first the drip tray having to be tilted to remove is silly. Second, the hot water boiler takes far too long to heat up. In the morning im two shots in before I can add a dash of water.
Can you do back to back milk drinks with it? A few people mention the steam boiler is fairly limited.
You'd easily be able to do 2 drinks at a time, maybe even 3. But then you'd probably have to wait.
Update on this. I took this machine to work for a fundraiser and was easily able to make back to back drinks all day. As long as there's water there's very little down time. I made 30 drinks total over a few hours and could have done much more.
Welcome back man
Have you heard of the Profitec 300 or the Ascaso Duo ?? these are on par with that Rancilio. Really interested in this machine, so it is worth the $$$ tag? thanks
I was going to buy the ascaso but the dual boiler was what sold me on this. That and ascaso shipping never worked out when I originally ordered it so I think their company had some logistical issues. The profitecs I've only heard good stuff about from whole latte love. The rancilio is kind of the boring but reliable one and I think the safe bet.
@@DannyPops Yeah the Reliability of the Rancilio and large fan base is what makes me want to pull the trigger on one. That new Profitec pro 300 though....looks like a sweet machine, makes my kitchen look good. Really can't decide between the Rancilio and the Profitec.....these are my main 2 picks......
Thanks! Looking to buy this model in a couple of months. I’m a little geeky, not overly so; husband not at all. So I think this will work for us. Appreciate your “real person” review.
How is the recovery time for milk based drinks. I do alot of entertaining family and was looking between this and comparable models that would handle multiple drinks. Thanks.
I love Silvia, but I will admit that if you want to prepare multiple drinks, some with milk, it's a bit tricky. I'd be looking at a double boiler machine.
@@lundimardi1975 This is a dual boiler machine!
@@lundimardi1975 Silvia Pro X is a dual boiler machine. Others with the necessary equipment found out that it's thermal stability is incredible. Just give it 90 seconds between each shot to see a flat line (about 1 °F variance). Absolutely no issue to have the steam recovered in the same time
As a heads up, Silvias are known for rusting at the base, the chassis is sort of split in two pieces and mine did rust after a year approximately where the two parts meet. I would advise against leaving water on the drip tray to evaporate.
Thanks! I'll keep an eye out for it.
No issue anymore. Neither with the Pro X nor with any other Rancilio Silvia since 2020. The whole frame is made of stainless steel now (even if it's black painted and magnetic)
@@user-ns4em5sk9b For the V6 this is incorrect. I just bought a 2020 to replace my 2013. The frame/base is iron. Only the panels (black and brushed) are stainless steel, as they always have been. As long as you don't scratch the frame you're fine... the iron will only rust if exposed. My 2013 did not start rusting until about 7 years in.
@@thecritic2084 I felt the same way at first: I was totally convinced that the black frame parts of my Pro X were made of iron steel (especially since they are magnetic). However, according to my personal consultation with Rancilio all frames (Silvia, Silvia Pro and Silvia Pro X) ARE made ENTIRELY of stainless steel since 2020. I can also confirm this from my own experience: Even where the black paint is damaged, nothing rusts anymore
How much water is left in the water tank of your machine when it shows 'H2O' in the display?
With my machine this is 600 ml, so roughly 30% of unusable content. Would be interesting to know, if something is wrong with my machine.
(Just to say: Of course, I checked that the air trap is installed correctly)
hmmm... 20-30% sounds about right. Honestly it's not a huge deal for me. I brought mine to work the other day for a fundraiser to make lattes and it lasted about 15-20 drink until it needed a refill.
@@DannyPopsRe-assembled the airtrap again. Now I'm down to ~400 ml. I can live like that now
After seeing this review and how clunky the Pro X is to use, I'm happier with my Silvia V6. Had a V3 for 10 years ... replaced it with the V6, with Auber Instruments PID kit I installed myself. The Auber PID with Preinfusion is actually easier to use than the Pro X PID, and more programmable. The only drawback is not having a double boiler, but I do a lot more espresso than cappuccino and the Auber PID manages the recovery time well so doing back to back shots is fairly quick and painless... by the time you tamp another shot, the boiler is back up to brew temp.
08:21 Do yourself a favor, stirr it with a spoon or something. After the extraction you have different layers of emulsion in your cup
The specs say water tank is 2L. That brita filter you showed looked like it had a lot less than 2 lites of water
It lasts quite a while I'll say that:)
2:47 This is a coffee machine, not a tea pot. As you are saying, enough output for 1 or 2 americanos. No home machine without an unreasonable huge, slow and energy wasting boiler does more. Reheating will NOT take 15-20 minutes, just 2 or 3. Please try it out🙂
I am fascinated to know why your drip tray doesn't fill up during the week.
I have owned the Silvia for 15 years used daily and the drip tray never fills up. at all. If yours does you should reconsider how you are spilling so much water into the tray.
@@silver_tt It depends on whether or not you're tamping your shots properly. A properly tamped shot should cause the three way solenoid to kick on and relieve back pressure, dumping small amounts of water into the drip tray. If you're using the 7 or 14g basket it probably won't, but if you're using the 21g basket with bottomless portafilter, you will get better shots but also have some back pressure kicking on the solenoid relief.
@@thecritic2084 Thanks. You will get some water in the drip tray but it evaporates and is nowhere near enough to fill up the tray, that is a large volume of water. Possibly if you were using it constantly, like at a small coffee shop or so but I don't imagine this machine would be. It is a similar concept when you clean the machine by backflushing it but in this case the portafilter is completely blocked such that water cannot pass through it and must be relieved into the drip tray.
Sounds like you need to upgrade your stove - induction or gas will seem unbelievably quick to you for getting water to boiling temperature. :)
I actually used to have an induction in my old house and it was SLOW for heating up water. Those portable induction water heaters specifically made for heating water seem to do it the fastest!
Is the steam wand burn-proof?
No
What aftermarket portafilter do you have? I love the wood accents.
www.pantechnicondesign.com/products/rancilio-silvia-portafilter here you go!
@@DannyPops Yeah. Unfortunately not as good as advertised. There is also a new Rancilio bottomless. This one is up to the level of the included spouted one, but unfortunately the handle is of a different material and the end cap has some sharp edges. I ended up sanding it with some nonwoven web. OK for me now
Bro waiting for Sound core Motion X600 review and comparison
I actually just heard about that today and placed a preorder
@@DannyPops Thanks bro
Nothing ever evaporated from my drip tray on my regular silvia. Maybe the pro outputs less in the drip tray, and your environment must be more dry.
Las Vegas is extremely dry so that's a good point you make.
I have this machine but my problem with it the water not come evenly from shower screen . I’m searching to fix the problem . I changed the screen to IMS but it still same . It’s like this or my machine have problem ?
Hmm mines pretty even. Maybe the tamping technique?
@@DannyPops everything is good while it flashes it shows the water coming from one side. Can you check pls in the 30s how much g water comes out?
@@Almansoori. I would straight hit up rancilio and ask them. They have very good customer service.
@@Almansoori. Try to loosen the screen, slightly turn and reattach. Sometimes the holes do line up in a bad way (common issue with most machines)
My espresso Machine is the most used appliance in my home.
I forgot what machine you said you were currently sporting.
@@DannyPops it’s a Via Venezia. Very similar to the Starbuck’s Barista espresso machine. I also have one of those chromed out Italian manual press espresso machines that I never use. Have you attempted roasting your own coffee beans?
@Mike Hancock oh wow another machine I've not yet known about. I've used the popcorn popper machine to roast beans in the past, it wasn't very accurate but I enjoyed it.
@@DannyPops the air popcorn popper method isn’t very good. The stir crazy popcorn popper is very good with practice. Yeah the manual press unit is quite fancy.
I disagree with the put it in the shop. Ive had one for about a year and the steam boiler is small. I can barely complete one pitcher of about 300 grams of milk with out it flashing again. if I had to do it again I would have dropped the coin for a Linea Mini. But in fantasy land I'd have a plumbed GS3. I got just as good almost better temp surfing a version 1 Silvia with PID.
I like overkill. I'd rather have a lot more than I need than barely enough. My GCP is increasingly underwhelming me
3:18 Do you really use a BRITA tabletop water filter PLUS the included BWT filter pad? I would recommend to do some research in coffee water.
None of these filters are really good, but the tabletop can do the job (if your tap water is suitable and you monitor the output by titration testing - believe it or not, you might need to filter the same water more than once). The BWT filter pad is not at all suitable for this application, despite the fact that it's unfortunately included
I have an Oscar water softener in the machine. Not sure if that's what you mean
Someone doesn't drink Americanos if you think that's just for tea
I realise this is North America, but we'd use an electric kettle to make a cuppa in the UK...Silvia is a coffee machine, not a tea machine! 🙂
True, but what about Americanos? I mainly drink Americanos. I want a machine with good hot water supply rather than be boiling the kettle as well - why buy a machine with a hot water option otherwise?
@@GrayDJames A Long Black, in Australian coffee-speak. That's all we drink at our house. Silvia is perfectly capable of producing more than enough hot water for a long black. But my original point was why would you make a cup of tea with an espresso machine? You wouldn't. You'd use a kettle. Because espresso machines are for espresso. :-)
@@GrayDJames Americanos with Silvia Pro (X) are the easiest you can think of
30 minute wait for steam? That’s ridiculous
It's more like 10
I don't usually comment on channels like this, but since it is about Rancilio Silvia pro and your phrase "it is completely an overkill..." - nonsense. It is not an overkill, not by a long shot. I am on my third Silvia, starting from the regular one, then Pro and currently Pro X. If you want consistency in your kitchen for your espresso, especially milk-based drinks, and you don't want the hassle and guesses in your milk steaming. Pro or Pro X is your choice from Rancilio Lineup.
I jumped to your channel from the "short" that you produced, in order to warn your viewers and/or subscribers, that your statement is simply wrong. Bye!
Bro… i really think that this machine is too complex for you :))
Most espresso machines have a learning curve. But ok.
He needs a bambino
Nice creeema...or crema. 😂 You should be a comedian!
This is so time consuming 😮
Who are you? You spend $2k and just fumble on. That steam nozzle (to be a "pro") should be a single spout. That drip tray is a joke. The pressure gauge is essential to make consistent shots using different roasts. Are you really this thick or is this for effect?
Total PITA. How the public ever got talked into buying these things is a mystery. If you actually like coffee--as opposed to effing around with complicated, expensive gadgets--just get a dripper and a three-dollar box of filters and make yourself a nice pour-over.
Yes. And if you like espresso, by a very good espresso machine. Such as this one (highly recommended)