Espresso Pucks: What Matters & What Doesn't
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- Опубликовано: 16 май 2024
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Very informative and directly to the point; I like the "What doesn't...".
For the beginners, this is remove some overthinking in my mind.
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Oh yes great video demystifying tamping, dosing and baskets thank you
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Precision in the presentation makes it so crisp.
presentation was filtered with a VST basket
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Ok, got yourself a new sub. Learning to use my basic Gaggia Classic Pro with a VST 18g basket and the OPV spring mod and my pucks are always a little damp and I needed to know if it was a problem. Thanks for answering that. Very nice presentation, looking forward to more of the same.
Hi,
I currently have a problem with my crema using the Gaggia Classic Pro. It always turn out dark and lots of bubbles. Do you have any ideas? Thanks in advance
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Is the used puck good for garden beds?
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The line is usually just for the retaining spring to sit against in the portafilter but does work nicely as a marker. VST shower plates have a membrane to help stop oils getting pulled back through to the other side, collecting and affecting taste.. pretty good (if they work..). The baskets are a bit of a gimmick. Nice groups on an ECM mechanical pre-infusion too 😉
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I use a VST 20g basket with a BZ10 machine & Ceado grinder. When I use the full 20g, the puck will swell into the screen and this seems to encourage channeling. A finer grind compacts more, but chokes. So I end up using 17 -18g instead in the 20g VST. But your vid says to use the proper spec dose for those baskets. Is it okay for a swollen puck to touch the shower screen?
Great video! Was worried about not tamping hard enough...
I'm down to 13 grams of coffe again, and light tamping. On my machine it gives better results. (A hand lever machine.) Am now also trying to do a longer soak time, up to 20-30 seconds, to get more flavour and more liquid, since it isn't enough, otherwise.
You're right, it's what's in the cup that matters. -
Perfect advice!
I've a rancilio silvia, used before the standard basket, 14g, but brew always 15g, the puck was always dry. Then I've bought a IMS competition basket, 16/20 grams. I've changed my grind settings for finer, and more coffee, 18 grams, and now the coffee is better, have a really nice crema, but the puck is wet. The shot is better now, I think it's ok, I don't have channels...
What’s the best way to know your dose is correct? I have an 18g basket but the thumb press test post extraction feels very soft. I find to get a firmer thumb feel I have to up the dose closer to 21ish grams. Have I been doing this correctly?
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The ridge simply helps the basket get a grip from the spring in your portafilter -> zooms in to show there’s no spring in portafilter.
Great channel. Instantly subbed.
There is: 1:33 -- you can see a little metal bar around the circumference of the inside of the portafilter which extends out slightly at ~1 o'clock, 5 o'clock, and 8 o'clock. That bar is flexible and interacts with the basket ridge to help hold it in place
R U blind? There is a spring
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Something that your puck may tell you - over or under dosing. If you place your dry puck into your machine and then remove (without brewing) and your puck has an impression from the shower screen or screw, you may be dosing to high and this can lead to channeling. If your shot starts drippy but then runs very fast towards the end you may be under-dosing our basket. Also vst make a 25g basket but disregard the single, double and triple lingo simply use brew ratio instead, a good way to start is 1:2 dose to yield and keep in mind head space within the basket as a deciding factor when choosing a basket size.
Wow that shot was fantastic!
Imo wet puck is because the basket needs more ground coffee in it. It mostly happens to me when I use 7 gram in a single basket. While if I use 14g in single or 20 in double basket, the puck will be formed nicely even with grids on it because it's full of ground coffee and when water enters will increase volume thus touch the upper ceiling of the filter in the machine where the water flows
Finally a video that treats coffee as a drink and not a science project
Man I only have pressurised porta for now, so all these don't really matter to me but your sense of humour does!
I find with a precision VST basket to get my extraction time right I had to grind much finer than for the standard basket, too fine in my opinion.
Also got a VST and this is totally normal. As the VST has a higher hole density than most baskets it allows more water to exit the basket. Also an increased gap between shower screen and coffeepuck(because of the deepness of big VST baskets) could cause a too fast extraction. There should be a gap of course but in optimum case, its just big enough for the puck to swell. Imo a 15g VST needs at least 17g of grinded coffee to function like intended. A puckscreen also helps with decreasing gap(if higher coffee dosing is not wanted) to the shower while also providing better water distribution during extraction.
Great video clear and concise 😺🙏👍
ayee thank you!
Nice video, thank you.
I definitely prefer a ridgeless basket. Not sure if all brands are like that but my rocket brand basket and portafilter holders are really difficult to get in and out.
Funny I'm pretty sure I've seen rockets marketting saying it is a full line indicator.
I like the wood knobs. Which color are those? Maple or Bubinga?
what bottomless portafilter are you using? really like the wood aesthetic
Wow! This was a really good and helpful video.
Thanks so much!
This is very informative video. I got a question for all coffee lover, will water temperature in water tank matter? I have a basic manual espresso maker here, water temperature inside water tank is keep rising when I'm doing the routine of making espresso, then steaming. I measure the temperature inside the tank, it could get to 65C, I am not sure this is normal or not. will it affect the taste of espresso. Thanks.
Always informative 👍🏻. So always exact the dose of the basket?
Jeroen Geurtsen The espresso game is all about consistency. So, yes. You are better off asking the people who roast your coffee about their preferred coffee recipe. Which is: grams in (coffee grounds in basket) and grams out (espresso shot) to get the best out of your coffee :)
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Feel free to reach out to us if you have any questions!
I'm just here to see that coffee flow.. Oh yeah.. xD
thank you, great info - what does it mean when the used puck is bulging?
(sometimes cracked)
I have a Breville Oracle and reduced how much this used to occur by reducing the built-in doser/tamper to 22 grams (min amount possible)
Don't worry if the puck is cracked, it doesn't really matter
Hey like your video. I hv a questions, my espresso pucks look watery. Why is that? The coffee bean is to fine? Did I need to adjust to be a little bit course?
At last, a common-sense and to-the-point video. Great tips. Thanks.
Cheers!
Great video thanks! QQ…I have a 18g IMS basket….does that mean I should never put more than 18g in?
what is that espresso machine?!
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can you tell the brand name and model?
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THANK YOU, I am so annoyed and fed up with espresso “experts” who are all parroting different contradictory religious things about things that really don’t matter, while ignoring the important issues about what makes the coffee come out well. I’ve wasted so much money trying to follow the advice of folks on r/espresso.
Great video, love espresso coffee.
Nobody, and I mean nobody, does videos as polished, professional, and useful as Clive. Thanks for the intelligent and terse presentation.
Thank you!
Very professional
super impressed, great advice.
Great video, I have a question, when would you remove the portafilter after extraction, today I left it on to froth the milk and then I tried to remove the PFilter it took some doing, I have a Gaggia classic evo. Thanks for any tips.
I'd remove it shortly after pulling a shot. If you leave it in for long periods of time, the espresso puck is much harder to get out and cakes the inside.
I am new to espresso and have to use decaf coffee beans for my shots. Do you have any suggestions?
Could the brand of coffee make a difference (on solid or soupy puck?)
Clever line at the end
I am using a 18 grams VST rigidless basket.
Although I fill it with 19.5 grams.
How is it possible that it fits more than 18 grams and still doesn't look full ?
Afterwards the puck has signs of the group head screw. Is it because it touches the group head or because water is pushing slightly the basket upwards ?
I tampered my puck by mistake. Does it cause problems in the cell ? Second question : I use IMS 18/22 basket and I grind 18g then using puck. It gets water on the surface after pulling the shot. Any recommendation ?
nice cup，what is the brand
What is a good first time home user machine?
Very helpful
Glad we could help out!
Thank you! As this is brand new to me...not really getting the grind and volume ratios. How do I know what the grind size is for starting out? I tried 13 and got 2 drops of coffee..terrible! Way under-extracted according to the manual. I have a breville barista pro. I'm sure I will love it once I know how to actually use it...Thanks!
Hello, great as you do this video clearly short and clear. Question, I just bought a Brezerra Magica and am under a lot of stress to make a delicious esspreso now. I have a 16 gram tray, can I add 18 grams or not? and my coffee is now weak and sour and with the current setting at 10 bar it takes about 25 seconds for 60 ml of coffee. Grinder is a Eureka Mignon Speialita and I now need 11.6 sec for 18 grams. the coffee is brand Medellin Secret Finca La Luisa Colombia. I would like to hear every tip I can get and I assure that I try to follow all RUclips espresso films but in the end it turns out that it is easy to get lost. Greetings John.
25s for 60ml of coffee seems to be a little too fast and hence your espresso sounds like it's being underextracted (ie. weak, sour). You might wanna try grinding finer and brewing to a 1:2 ratio which would be 18g in 36g out if going by weight in about 25-30s.
From the Crema, it is not thick.
The moment I put sugar test on it, I will not stay on the crema.
It will sink directly.
I am not sure whether is my beans had age.
Could you advise on how to know is my grind size is too fine or too course.
From the puck, it is very soft. The moment I hold on it, it will become a mess as it is very soft. could you advise.
"press that puck through your counter..." :D +1
2:18 I want that, distribution tool, and I like that tamper using palm, not fingers.
It's new levy from Saint Anthony Industries.
Hey, thanks for the video. Regarding the basket size, if it says 16g on the side of the double shot basket is it recommending to only use 16g? Additionally, after struggling to get the correct grind size, I ended up adding another gram to reduce the speed. It tastes good but is that recommended? Please share your expert opinion.
Hi there!
It sounds like the optimal dose for your basket is 16g, but you can certainly experiment with slightly smaller or larger doses. Different coffees will have a different density, so with a darker roast you might be able to only fit 14g without overfilling! If you were not able to dial in the grinder to get the perfect shot, adding a gram to your basket it another great way to slow down the total shot time and improve the quality of your extraction.
Hope this helps! Let me know if you have any other questions,
-Amanda
Be warned - I put 16g in my 15g IMS basket (which I try for lighter roasts, but, I'm not convinced yet), even with a good solid tamp my puck stuck to my grouphead.... Ooops. a messy clean-up for sure. Won't make that mistake again.
May I ask who makes the tamper and distributer tools you are using? Thanks for the awesome video!
I would also like to know