The 2020 Honda Civic Type R is Even More Magical than Before!
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I spend a week with the 2020 Honda Civic Type R and find that all the small changes made for 2020 add up to really significant improvements in the way it drives. Standard Honda Sensing for 2020 is also a nice addition, especially if you do long road trips. With an as-tested price of $37,950 it may not be the absolute best performance value, but its combination of practicality and amazing handling are still unmatched in this segment, and the Type R still has a special feeling to it that makes it a ton of fun to drive. What do you think of the 2020 Civic Type R? Thanks to Honda for providing this vehicle to review!
Time Stamps:
0:00 Off The Record
0:59 Exterior
3:48 Interior
4:35 Initial impressions
7:55 Acceleration
10:29 Handling
12:00 Veloster N comparison
13:54 Acceleration #2 and other thoughts
17:18 Impressions after a week
19:43 Pricing thoughts
21:29 Fuel economy
22:13 Shifter complaints
23:05 Final thoughts
24:39 Honda Sensing
26:09 Wrap-up
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Even sitting down and after all these years this dude has not strayed from his hunch back introduction. Respect
I drove one of these once, was incredibly surprised with how quick it was and also almost forgot it was FWD. Great car!
That which is most overlooked about the CTR is its era.
To those watching this video, this is the car and now is your time.
Stop living for tomorrow and be aware that if you end up in a CRv or Rav4, you'll never ever be able to go back and own a CTR.
🤣🤣🤣
Love this message just got a Civic sport hatch 6 speed a year ago but might trade it in for a CTR when my payoff is below value
This... YOLO
@@typerfk8 Indubitably!
it's the sad truth ....
I have disagree with the statement about the Type R not being worth the 8k difference from Veloster N. Especially if you’re going on the track. I think the aftermarket is a lot bigger for the Type R than the N and it has more potential but that’s just me
The Type R is actually about $15k more considering the fact that dealerships want around $10k in markups.
That velosters interior and engine is gonna start falling apart after a few years , Hondas reliability is second to none
Just bought a 2020 type R on Saturday up here in Canada
congratulations!!! 🎉
Thanks it's awesome
What's the duty or vat there?
Can u tell me how the back seats feel? I’m a bit worried that it might be uncomfortable cuz it’s small and doesn’t have arm rests
Cool what's ur address?
I really like the honda civic type r exterior and its interior is very beautiful .. I really dream of having a honda civic type r so I will improve my education so that I can buy everything I want and help my family get up in life ...
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You will.
Just copped a 17 with only 11k miles on it. I still can’t believe it’s outside
For how much if you don’t mind answering
Alejandro Bruh 33
I have a 17 too and it’s red. Ima fix it up. Right now it’s a regular hatch back
LA FIESTA I plan on getting one before the end of the year. Did you have another car in mind that was a close runner up?
Nice bro. Here in southern Cali things are much different. Honda world in Westminster still asking $10k over msrp. Truly a joke.
I still think the Type-R is the better buy because it will hold its value way better than the Veloster.
Great review. Thanks for including the time stamps.
Great review Matt. Looks like you had a nice day to review the R. Like some of the new camera views too.
Who else was confused in the beginning and thought it was a weekly update 😂
Yes! 😆
Definitely me
I was for sure. I guess he’s gotta make money somehow. (:
Yup me to.
Love it. Good reviews!!!
Great video!
Blind-spot monitoring is easy to add aftermarket. It will not hit the brakes for you, but it will give you visual and audible warnings
I'm in Love with mine same color!
Great video matt!! I cant wait to get my hands on one of these!
The Best just got Better! Great review Matt
A WILD HONDAPRO JASON HAS APPEARED!!!
*@HondaPro Jason* Do you happen to know why the US TypeR only has 306 hp instead of the normal 320 hp from the EU version?
@@zergling05It is because they have a higher octane in the UK which in turn means a diffent fuel compression ratio.
@@skyscrapesthetower not only in england, then it will be the same in all of europe and japan, i come from germany and here the TypeR have 320 hp (2017) and the previous TypeR models already had 310 hp (2015). thanks for the answer, now i understand why petrol is cheaper in the usa, it is due to the poor quality
@@zergling05 lower octane rating doesn't mean poor quality. Not sure where your getting that from?
It's an astounding bit of engineering, and pure pleasure to drive.
I have a 19 and decided to drop full bolts ons (93) octane fuel,car is 381whp/394tq and this car is hauling azz, willing to let you drive it and see for yourself(Cherry hill,NJ)
Hey I sent you an email
I’m willing to compare it to my full bolt on wrx. I’m in Long Island. Let me know
@@alexpeguero38 u will never stand a chance, i have a 2006 sti on stage 2 and believe me,still won't be able to catch it,especially after 90mph when the awd subaru is dead in the water.
Don't forget that CTR is turbo VTEC.
Import Lover let’s meet up. I’ll be at the track Sunday in jersey., I beat a Dodge Charger, we were neck and neck but I continued to pull and I was on 93.
@@alexpeguero38 charger have FIVE trims,so which one did u beat ?
You talking about 1/4 mile?
I only go to S Jersey Motorsport park.
I absolutely loved the first time I drove CTR on a perfect sunny Saturday. The second one was in winter in Canada - no snow on road but gravel/ rocks. I didn’t like it and found it underwhelming. It felt like a dialed up Fiesta ST. Not that you can’t drive it in rain/snow but it leaves out half of its performance. Honda has done magic with this car but anything less than perfect weather it’s asking for AWD.
Hi, what are your thoughts on bigger/upsized tyres on stock rims?
Another informative review done really really well. Thanks!
love this car
I use legal shield. For semi truck drivers but they handle personal vehicles as well. On another note I’m loving this type r. That red just makes it look even meaner.
such beautiful cars
it is the best right now, the problem is the dealerships know it , the mark ups are insane, after the finance guy gets you its almost a $41k car
Props to Honda for putting the turbo at the front of the car
Good review! Although the FK8-R is aimed at the Golf R, not the Veloster N which - along with the i30N - is aimed at the Golf GTI.
needs some spacers other than that cool.
The red accents that split the fake vents front and rear are perfect.
Hey if you come across a 2021 Veloster N 8 Speed DCT can you review one.
Matt, how does the R compare to your Bullitt?
Oh man this just keeps getting better and better
The Civic Type R is just so good🔥
I like how no one will ever confuse your car for just any car in a Civic Type-R.
Uniroyal Mish Um I like the new Civic Si and Accord Sport Sedan with a manual tranny. 😐
@Uniroyal Mish You mean the regular Civic with a little more power lol
Uniroyal Mish the Civic Si is a good car but for so long Honda was missing something and that’s where the Civic Type R came in
I would love to have a Civic Si but I would rather get the Type R tbh it’s better value for the performance
BASITH PH SI all da way! 😉
The Civic Type R is already a good car but I’m glad that Honda gave it the updates it needs and made it a better car!
Exactly what i was thinking😂👍🏼
They could’ve done without giving it that awful fake engine noise though
@@QuizzyV well you can always switch it off so it's not a big deal
@@basithph8958 didn't know you could turn it off, that's a plus for people who want it and people who don't
QuizzyV and the 20 inch wheels!😂😂
This is my favorite color on this car.
They do make a "limited" type version like you said - only available in the Euro market. I am the person you exactly described. I know the wing is functional but it's a bit too much for me. I have an 10th gen Si and I love it but it's about the edge of how aggressive I want my car to look. I want the extra power and performance though. I'm a 40 y/o dad so yeah. From what I hear that model has more sound deadening material as well as leather and lower profile spoiler. Perfect combo for me.
Rumor is the next one will be awd and 400hp, hope its true, mine is pushing 350 with 265 tires and its still lacking grip 2nd gear.
Hey man! Hows gas consumptions like?
With the lack of competitors to the FK8, I get why so many compare it with the N, but they really aren't comparable cars IMO beyond both having a highly-engaging (manual) experience and both being completely appropriate in stock form for amateur track usage. I own a N and I've driven the FK8 CTR on numerous occasions, although not the 2020. The pre-2020 FK8 is a step above the N across the board in terms of performance (and price), and the 2020 is taking that a step further. The N was not designed with the intent to compete with the CTR and establishes itself as an intermediate between Si and CTR skewing slightly in the direction of the CTR. I do agree that the sounds of the N are a lot of fun and add to the experience, whereas with the CTR something like the Remus exhaust is necessary to enable that level of audible fun (although obviously exhaust is hugely subjective.)
Nice review. I’m a little confused about the gear shift. 20 other reviewers said it’s the best gearbox they have ever experienced
Bought a 2021 type r today. San diego
Really wish honda would launch this car in India. Even if they do i won't be able to afford one, still seeing one will definitely make my day.❤️
Matt, Mazda MX5, Honda Civic Type R or Mustang GT 5.0 PP1 or PP2? Which one is more fun? Handles the best? I know they are at different price and categories, but I'm looking for the best all around for handling and fun. Would love your opinion.
Wish someone responded... I have a mustang gt 2019 and thinking of trading to type r
hi Matt. nice vid. liked b4 watching b/c I knew it was going to be good
I love my 2019 a year later.
I have a red 2017 hatch back. I plan to fix it up and turn it into a Type R now that I know so much about it
From what I found on google the veloster N is within 100lbs of the type R in weight.
Fun and solid car, but the sound of a subaru boxer with good ex. is hard to beat..:)
And the Focus Rs with a solid Ex. sounds damn sweet with the popps..:)
It’s a very, very satisfying car to drive. I had big dilemma CTR or Bullitt some 2 years back. CTR is a better car: steering, cornering incl. rotation, gear ratios, brakes and everyday practicality. But for some unknown reason Bullitt delivers more trill and smile. Maybe V8 and RWD? What was your feeling @matt Moran motoring? Why better sports car is not always better drivers car? I would like to have those two instead of base 911.
I was thinking of eventually using my R as a winter beater and the Bullitt or a GT as a summer car. If I didn't have to haul a lot of stuff for work and if it didn't snow I would daily drive the GT/Bullitt. At that price point, nothing is more fun than the GT/Bullitt. The R is fun too but I never get to track it or go through some twisty roads so it seems a bit wasted.
I applaud Honda for not adding any of the silly crack and pop gimmics in this car. Those stuff are fun for 30 seconds then they sour. They are about as much fun as suffering from PE. Not that I would know lol
You can get that 'burble' tune with Hondata, however a lot of tuners recommend against it since it'll eventually cause engine issues. Thus why I steered far away from it when I got my R tuned.
@@MrGreatnessisme There is really no need for a tune if you want the occasional pop n crackle. I have a Milltek Non Resonated exhaust on my Type R and I get pops and crackles on stock tune.... Not as much as a burble tune but it's fun. The reason why is because Milltek is a true catback exhaust and replaces the front pipe.
Some aftermarket exhausts are actually not replacing the front pipe so they are not true catbacks and don't actually open the exhaust up. Also other catbacks have resonators that kill the sound.
Motor trend actually got 5.0s to 60 with a pre-refreshed one, 5.4s was with the first one they tested
Lmao that's slow af but okay then
Wish I had this
just got my 2020 champ white. auto high beams are sick. didnt relize it also had heated mirrors. you can drive with no hands with lane keep assit and adaptive cruise
Didnt know it had lane keep assist or adaptive cruise even though its manual, congrats on the new car, youre gonna love it!
@@maxh4782 i had a 2018 ctr the 2020 is much better especially in the dampening and brakes as well.
Honda's Civic Type R is something that you just can't hate ~ It's just a great vehicle.
Wonder if he had track completely off ? makes huge difference
Did I hear the 2nd gear grind at 8:05? I did that once when I was shifting to 2nd from 1st to quickly. Mine was a 2018 Type R.
no, listen again
yup sound like a grind to me although it was very short
Definitely not a grind.
How do you compare this to a Subaru Wrx sti
you will always be subaruwrxfan at heart haha
great video, the type R is a sexy beast
How do u get the red seats and seat belts someone help me
Some comments here knock the styling. I love it. Perhaps if you acquaint yourself with Japanese popular art characteristics you might understand. I think the styling designers are fully aware of this. This car is done up with "Manga" stylization. Which is an extremely popular and well developed art form used in JDM comics, advertising graphics and fashion. This car is very much the modern high art Manga look.
Like driving a Gundam ;)
just got a 2018 7000 miles before all mustangs but i love this car
This car is legit. The STI can't compete.
Aint nothing wrong with the wing/spoiler... it is part of the whole aerodynamic system.
Great review! I’m looking into buying a Type R
Did they finally put real brembos in the rear?
Great 👍
i was actually looking to get a civic type r just last month, but i ended up getting a veloster n instead. i couldn’t be happier!
Is it coming out in the UK
I just bought a type r. Thjs model is coming out once they finish selling all the prior model only a few left in the country
Fantastic review Matt, love this car except for rear spoiler, too big!
Does the Type R come with 2 different types of shift handles? I answered my own question. The dealer sells a red leather wrapped shift knob might be great for the hotter months. I bet their are a ton of aftermarket ones as well.
The knob gets impossibly hot. I just ordered foam microphone covers (assorted colors including red), to slip over on hot days.
i need that car
Thanks for this! I was a breathe away from buying a 2020 CTR after driving the 2019. I ended up buying a 2016 Miata Sport RWD + ST + MT + red 45k miles for $10k OTD while keeping me 2010 Maxima. The CTR is a great all arounder but I couldn't get past the ricer boy wing/styling and the Miata cures all my desires for something fun to drive while the Maxi gives me practicality for grocery store/kid runs. Plus I didn't want to pay $40k for a depreciating asset (even if values are relatively holding ok so far).
Ace of Spades what a deal for a ND Miata. Thank do not blame you although I have a 2019 CTR and it’s wonderful (it sits right next to my cheap NB Miata lol)
I would love to the see the Europe version of the Type R touring line. It has a smaller wing, 19 inch wheel, and more sound deadening. Why not bring that here Honda!?😓😓
Would like to see a more mature and even sophisticated version here.
I’m a girl and I can’t wait to get one soon ❤️
Cool, but what's the matter if you are a girl?
@@alexandrosioannou2230 cause 95%of theses owners are boys
Go for it!
Im a martian and i cant wait to get one soon
If I get a type-r, the 1st thing I'm gonna change is get rid of those wheels and put smallest wheel that clears the breaks without any issue and buy a bit wider tires with taller side wall. I just hate tires that have no sidewall
seatbelt is dope
14:13 you can tell this man hates traffic with a passion.
I’m looking for a new car and was looking considering between the Sti and the Type R. I have driven the Sti and I love how it feels when you drive the car and how raw it is when it comes to the mechanical feel of the driving experience. Hearing you say how the steering might be better than the Sti puts the Type R as the first option now as this was the main feel I was concern about but I think you have covered all the points I was looking for for me to go for a Type R hands down!!!!
Literally am wrestling between those 2 cars as well. Mainly STI because I had an Evo X so I'm used to turbo charged 4 bangers with AWD. But something about the new Mustangs are slightly appealing as well and I would like to at least test drive an Ecoboost. But the main competition is STI and Type-R for me. I'd be curious to follow up with you next year and see which one you end up getting!
I got the 2019 type r over sti. It is a fun drive and steering wheel feels like driving go kart that heavy.
Joseph Harrison Most likely I am going to get the Type R. Overall I feel it’s a better car to daily drive and also more reliable. Plus that fact that there isn’t many people that owns oneis cool. If I had the money I would get both, the Sti for winter and Type R for summer. But yea man I will let you know when I cop one
Joseph Harrison i come from an STi, have a PP Mustang 5.0 now (modified both). the ecoboost is trash, dont waste your time. compared to the STi, the 5.0 feels terrific driving slow, but is much sloppier/larger feeling driving at the limit. i'd imagine the type r is much more composed than both, similar feeling to the evo but significantly lighter. i plan on trading the 5.0 PP for one once my money situation is right. hope this helps 👍
Well,i have a 2006 sti and a 19 Type R, my civic type R when stock was gapping my sti (stage 2)- the civic is much better in every aspect (unless u need an awd dialy driver cause the area where u live)
The civic will hold his value,cheaper service than subaru,cheaper parts,much better on MPG (34mpg if u can behave)
You can't judge this civic till u get behind the wheel and see what the hype is all about.
I wish I was young and had some cash. I would definitely buy this car!
Don't worry Dexter, I wanted a Type R when I was 18 (back in 2005). Loved them all these years but couldn't afford one until 16 years later. Patience and alot of hard work will get you one some day :)
'I wanted Blind Spot, and Rear Cross Traffic Alert like our Outback. I actually keep my hands on the steering wheel (leather, not that fuzzy thing), so I don't need Lane Keeping Assist. Forward Collision is important, but I had to give that up for the 2019 car. Love Matts' positive energy!
I don't get the Veloster comparison at all.
Apart from the sound (which is subjective), the Type R beats the Veloster in every category.
Which it should, because it is a different kind of car, in a different price band.
So why the comparing?
Wonder if they make a sleeve for the shifter? Good idea?
Hey Matt, would you get Civic Type R or Supra 2.0 if you are just considering pure fun factor?
Personally, I like RWD driving dynamics more, so the tail-happiness of the Supra 2.0 would be my pick between the two if price wasn't a consideration.
I drive a civic sport, which is still a fun little car, but I want an R so bad
Snap! I love my civic sport; turns alot of heads, but..... Damn!! That CTR looks awesome!!!!
I drive a wrx and this type r is my dream car. Somehow I feel like I'm cheating on my wrx..
As a Subaru fan as well. Go ahead and cheat. 😉
I had an STi (head gasket blew up) and then a base WRX after that through 2008 to 2019, before moving on to the Type R. If you are in a reasonable position to do it, go get a Type R. You will love it, and I promise you won't miss having AWD unless you live somewhere where it snows all winter. The Type R is easier to live with (quieter, better cabin, etc.) and also more much rewarding to drive. Everything related to driver involvement (steering feel, braking, shifting, throttle response, instrumentation, the seats...) is a notch up from a WRX family car. One caveat on the Type R. I splurged and put 18 inch forged wheels on my car after burning through the first set of tires after 9000 miles. The stock wheels are heavy and there are precious few (and expensive!) tire options go with them. The 18 wheels mellowed out the ride, with noticeably better acceleration off the line, but also introduced a little bit of torque steer (definitely a worthwhile trade-off overall). That said, it seems that a brand new WRX is coming, so maybe you wait and see what Subaru (finally) brings to the table and then decide!
Yes must be appealing to scuby owners for stand out design and great driving as well as practicality . Something different from German designs but feel they have reached a peak here of engineering apart from going silly power and a few tweeks like cooling for track days. Only thing missing is AWD which could be handy in draggies and winter weather
If a type r is your "dream car" you're cheating your dreams lol. You must have a bone stock wrx bc a FBO E60 wrx tuned by a reputable tuner is dumb quick.
k20a2toofast4u my wrx is full bolt ons on e60,I wonder how it compares to type r
Dear Honda,
Please make a Type R with a smaller wing.
It deserves the big wing
How does it compare to the WRX STI s209?
well its a lot cheaper lol
I would say it probably would come down to drivers and weather conditions, I never drove an S209, but I did daily an STI for a while... STI has massive amounts of grip, but does feel heavier than the Type R. I would think the S209 upgrades made the car even tighter with even more grip.... which is insane to think about. I think handling wise the S209 is probably very good but I think the Type R may be able to pull away from an S209 in a roll race. Even with 341hp that EJ257 just is not great on the highway unless it is tuned. The K20C1 engine in the Type R is more responsive and has less lag. I do like the S209 though... if Subaru didn't make them so expensive... I do say in the rain an S209 would definetely be better, in the dry the Type R Should be able to keep up or beat it even.
How does Honda Sensing work with a manual? Seems like the automated cruise control would only work within a certain rev range before it stalled?
Yeah, I think it disables at like 50 mph or something.
It also doesn't disable when you clutch in and shift
Point of having and buying a car is to have fun....
It’s sad they stopped Accord Sport 2.0T manual, especially for enthusiasts with kids.
This car has plenty of space but you're losing some luxuries the Accord offers.
I would buy this in a heart beat if Honda brings the type R sport line version here. I just can't stand that gigantic wing.
That gigantic wind isn’t for decoration. But for the wind 🌬
Just take off the wing...
i mean , i wouldn’t know why you would buy a CTR if you’re not planning to use it for track day and tune it as well.
Do a 70 roll vs accord sport
Accord Touring is faster than the sport
Hows the gear grind?
These are the questions the people really wanna know!
@@JEtienneMusic Civic Type R does have transmission issues that Honda really doesn't address.
i have a 2019 and experienced a few 2nd gear grinds in the winter, no grinding at all since. it definitely does it but it seems to be temp related
Ever since getting a 2019 R, it has only happened 3-5 times. Only happened to me during spirited driving. Daily driving it doesn't happen.
Can you add paddle shift to this car?
No, it’s a type R
I had a 2019 for a couple of months it was a great vehicle but the seats were way to small for my back I had to sit almost sideways. Ended up trading it in for a new Raptor and I Love it.
As a 2019 Type R owner I can’t help but be jealous of those fast grind-free 1-2 shifts.
They will still grind the transmission was not changed just the shift knob and the shift box i drove a friends 2020 and I drove my 2019 still the same
Argenis Perez I know they didn’t make any changes to the gearbox but some cars aren’t affected by the issue.
I have a 2019 Type R as well and never once had a single grind or anything of the sort.
No grinding in my new '19 so far. My son is learning to drive the manual, and it does grind if you forget to push the CLUTCH PEDAL in before you shift!
@@JamieToddBand Almost all my cars have been manuals. The last two, 2019 WRX, and 2017 MX-5 - never had transmission grinds. Go watch Savage Geese's review of the CTR and the video he made specifically about Honda transmissions. Also, many other automotive journalists have experienced the issue including Throttle House, Redline Reviews, etc.
If the Honda Civic Type R is a Golf R killer, then the Hyundai Veloster N is the Golf gti killer. It holds up so well with the Subaru WRX STi 🙂
Resale value is the major difference between the R and the N, 10-15 years down the line people will still seek these out much like the first Evo's and STI's that came to North America. No one will give a shit about the N in the same time frame.
Can wait until they start selling the FL5... so that i can buy an FK8 without the inflated price...
I would definitely get the Type R if it was my money. I cant get over the dumb 3 door look on the Veloster
First thing I’d do is swap the winged rear hatch with a regular hatch.
I’m gonna buy one now lol
With what money
That’s why it’s good to keep a right glove in your car or keep a small microfiber towel and use it on the shift knob until it cool’s down or you can always just swap it out for a none aluminum and metal one.😃
Both of those steps take extra effort and money. In other words inconvenient. This is the same little annoyance like the touch slider volume.
Honda has an optional OEM Leather shift knob, my 2019 came with one.