Are GTA and Red Dead in the Same Universe?
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- Опубликовано: 22 авг 2024
- Answering the question of whether GTA and Red Dead Redemption are in the same universe.
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If you're looking for feedback about the AI voice, I understand if you use it for more dialogue heavy videos, but I agree with most of the comments in that I would prefer the old style. The silence makes the videos more mysterious, immersive, and unique. Your videos are always interesting and high quality, so we'll all watch it regardless
Nah
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Well, I think it's fine for these videos. As these aren't creepy or mysterious.
Na fam I work alot and having a voice so i can hear the video while I work is amazing I miss alot of his videos because I know I can't hear a voice telling me a story so I skip some of his videos just because of that
@@Westsideaviation23then just watch them at a different time
Holy shit he talks..
Sounds a little bit like AI
It’s an AI voice
it’s AI, check the description. i don’t like it tbh
Who me
It’s obviously AI
I would prefer the old silent videos or at least less use of the AI voices. I do agree with another comment here though if you could get an AI voice that sounds like the strange man from the games that would be excellent.
Voice better
Like the comment says, don’t like the current voice, but if a strange man version has been made that would go so hard
AI Arthur Morgan’s voice would be so much better
@@welej7168not really for these type of videos and this channel the strange mans voice would be perfect
Hey Strange Man… listen… one of the peculiarities that makes your videos so special is the muted narrative voice; please, don’t leave that format, it’s one thing that makes your style very unique!😢
Tf is that girl poppig up
Yea it’s cheesy lol.
So corny 😭😭
Its for attention, but it feels too childish. The kids that play GTA do tend to prefer to be treated like an adult anyway so if it’s because of the demographic then it might be better to not include this. The ai voice needs some tuning but im sure it’ll be indistinguishable in the future.
The cartoon blonde was terrifying, please stop that.
I don't understand how you can have both Liberty City and New York in the same universe. They would have the same buildings and landmarks would not make sense.
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Welcome to Rockstar games
Well las vegas has a lot of landamarks, and china literally has copies of city, imagine if in rockstar universe usa decided to do the same and make mini cities about their famous cities
I think they aren't in the same universe, although the characters and some small details can travel through universes and exists at each other at different times.
was wondering the same
I like the atmosphere of your silent videos
I like his new AI voice but hate the girl who pops up for no reason whatsoever
I'm not a fan of the voiceover, but it looks pretty evenly-split amongst your audience.
I like reading the blurb and then letting your direction handle the visuals. Its part of the formula.
I've always believed the RDR and GTA Universe are interlinked in some ways. But Rockstar being the company they are - also have a certain style to their presentation that won't make the connection too explicit and would like to keep fans guessing and theorising xD. Either way, I quite like how the two universes are tied together, even if it is very subtle. The same can be said with Bully if we were to bring that game into the mix. I'm so looking forward to the next GTA Online updates as well as GTA 6 to see how far they take this conundrum.
Thank you for the video!
I really hope for GTA 7 instead of just continuing the cycle back to LC, they give us a 'modern' interpretation of Saint Denis
You act like GTA’s universe didn’t have that timeline lmao, I get it wouldn’t feel connected considering RDR is grounded but Manhunt is also grounded and is in the same universe as GTA, RDR and GTA connected would be a great decision, Even if they’re not, R* can merge them and still have the characters in
@@TheSavageFactual No idea what you're referring to tbh. I think you've misunderstood my comment.
@@SnarkyRoguewhy would they go back to LC?
I figured it was different because New York is mentioned in RDR 2 and GTA 4 is Liberty City. I would say besides Easter eggs it’s separate a universe.
I want to see a GTA game set in the location where the RDR series used to be.
Me too thatd be so fn cool
It'd be awesome to see a RDR2 map set in the modern day with cars, highways, roads, etc
Yes, New Austin (Texas), West Elizabeth (West Virginia), Lemoyne (Louisiana), and Amberiano (Colorado)
I’ve always thought this, would love to see how these small towns expand and grow through the years! I’m surprised someone hasn’t done it already!
First thing I will go is go straight to Arthur's grave and expected to be neglected and possibly full of trash because you know...GTA Timeline is awful
Imagine Jason from GTA 6 is a descendant of John Marston. They look too much alike.
This reminds me when GTA 5 was first announced people though Michael was older version of Tommy Vercetti
@@Wabu_227 except jason and john make more sense than tommy and michael
@Vozars Yeah that's how it seems to us now since we already know infact Michael is not Tommy Vercetti but everyone thought it was convincing theory until we got more info from additional trailers.
Its unlikely imo
Thank you for not mentioning anything from the leaks. Not only have I have never looked at any of the leaks, I’ve done my best to avoid them as much as possible. I want to be surprised by whatever happens in GTA 6 as I play the game.
the leaks dont really spoil anyhting or give away what the game is gonna be like
@@Toph95 I don’t even want to know that. I want everything about the game, right down to the smallest detail, to be a surprise to me.
I see you are a real one like myself. I don’t wanna hear anything about VI
I am really not sure about the AI voices, it really breaks the charm of this channel
I personally don't think the AI is needed, and for me, it makes the experience worse, but I still enjoy your content.
I don't think it matches the type of content you produce.
I agree, it just makes it feel a bit plastic
@jake-ks3kb He should leave the voice to the imagination. Idk, it kind of feels like it has no soul.
I agree. It just makes it content for 4 years old or something.
Can we all agree the female voice is super annoying? Actually the voices ,if that's not strange man's voice .
Anyway, it still confuses me how there is new York and liberty city at the same time in the same universe, I kinda believe maybe rockstar messed up or idk
I personally don’t think they are in the same universe.
The Florida / Leonida name difference could easily be a retcon.
The Rocky Mountain animals, well, Rockstar probably kept the name the same as the real life animal to avoid confusion.
Madam Nazar being an arcade machine in GTA5 probably wasn’t meant to be taken too seriously, just like how The Last of Us Part II contains references to Uncharted, both being made by Naughty Dog, despite probably not being in the same universe.
Lastly, the ai voices just don’t sit right with me, they just make the video feel a bit plastic, which probably wasn’t the intention, but I’d prefer your real voice, or just the text alone if you don’t feel like it
that and the epsilon program seems extremely similar to the chelonians.
Why do you say Uncharted is not in the Last Of Us universe if there are Uncharted games in The Last Of Us ?
Funny thing is Florida and Leonida are both Canon
RDR2 being build off GTA V doesn't make RDR be in the same universe as GTA
cope lmao
I don't like the new style of editing. What the hell is this? 7:19
I don't like the AI voice either. Please... don't.
Nooo not the annoying Voice😭 Did u even read the comments on the other video man
Honestly I prefer the silent protagonist over voiced but that’s just my opinion;) yes I’m implying I’d rather you keep the old style. Also I’ve always thought GTA and RD were in the same universe
As cool as the voiceover is and the little pop-up on screen is , id prefer the mysterious and chill vibes of your silent videos. Imo they made it somewhat more enjoyable
Would be cool to see a modern day Saint Denis and surrounding areas
Im not a fan of that blue pop up girl. Seems so spam like.
It’s liberty city in gta and new york in red dead
I always ended this there
What if the cities were renamed in the universe?
@@Raouftali-wi6ymNew Rotterdam was Liberty City's original name.
what the fuck is this editing
The main voice is great, but you can cut the woman in blue with the peircing voice
Always a great day when Strange Man posts
Honestly how I see it, the Florida one from GTA IV could be a simple retcon or Florida could just be a nickname for Leonida.
California, New York, all these cities could’ve just been renamed into San Andreas and Liberty City or some explanation
Liberty City was originally called New Rotterdam in the GTA universe.
Why dose rockstar didnt use the original name?
@@anantajoarder1962
Satire
@@prowthegamer what?
@@anantajoarder1962
They used fictional names for the cities to fit in the satire/parody theme. Why do you think every product has it’s own name (example Sprunk, eCola)
I love your videos the most because there's no talking....The video is amazing as always but please no voices,of any kind 🥰
Edit: and the cartoon lady. Am I watching a Strange Man from a parallel universe? 😅 wtf
Video was great as always but that cartoon blonde lady popping up from time to time is plain weird and unsettling, doesn't fit the theme of channel.
Could you imagine visiting a modern day Saint Dennis and visiting the veteran center with Arthur Morgan's name still on the plaque 🤯
I don’t like the woman character popping out and her voice. I prefer just the main narrator voice.
Please no AI, it ruins the "Strange" of man, im certain nobody asked for AI, i feel honestly appalled by hearing AI on what makes this channel so good, the strange silence that hides any conception of WHO you are, but yeah
I really don’t like the AI voice 😂
Bro I had this question literally yesterday and this just popped up in my recommended you are the GOAT
Please no AI narration 🙏
I think that Jack Marston was a real person in the GTA universe, who loved reading so much he grew up to be an author and wrote the beloved book series, Red Dead, based on his experiences growing up with the Van Der Linde Gang. I also believe that, much like many similar real life non-fictional western novels, there were some creative liberties such as changes of city names and perhaps identities of certain persons to protect the dignity of his family's name.
Imagine they make it something you can read in Gta 6
I thought they were connected. It probably means the whole timeline is: the tale about Red Dead Revolver is brought up as stories into the world --> Red Dead Redemption II --> Red Dead Redemption --> Grand Theft Auto IV --> Grand Theft Auto V --> Grand Theft Auto VI.
All previous GTA's, like GTA III, VC and San Andreas aren't there, because they share whole other universe (difference between 3D universe and HD universe)
Red dead Revolver is also 3D universe
Gta Chinatown Wars is also HD Universe
Doesn't really feel like a Strange Man video with these AI voiceovers.
Hey ! I've been following you for a very long time now and your channel is one of my favorites. I see what you did with the ai voice etc and it's good, but i just don't think it fits your channel that much. I personally have a preference for the old style and i can see most of the comments agree with that. Amazing video tho !
I think RD3 should take place in the 30s with Jack being a bootlegger/Gangster and physically connecting New Austin to Los Santos…
I imagine the same thing. Although it’d be cool if it was a game in its own new franchise instead of being titled and treated as rdr3
The Casino Heist Artwork has also a few Red Dead references such as like a view of Saint Denis and RDR1 Undead Nightmare, kinda the same as with El Rubio's paintings.
The AI woman makes the video sound like a segment on PBS
You are the best rdr channel but please get rid of that voice😅
Idk why some little easter eggs mean games are connected.
It doesn't mean anything
It was confirmed years back when the kiflom mission was in the story
Yes. They are the same universe. Francis Sinclair (the time traveling entity with red hair and a birthmark) makes it clear by asking you to find rock carvings. These rock carvings are directly correlated to the "doomsday murals" in GTA V.
The Epsilon Program has been around since the beginning of Rockstar time. And that's just one of many references that tie these two worlds together.
How are the rock carvings related to The Doomsday Heist update? But write down an actual, FACTUAL connection. Speculation is out of the question.
GTA online is non-canon.
@@YaBoiDREXWhat are you talking?! Of course are the Events in GTA Online are Canon in HD Universe!
Its confirmed by Rockstar
I dont know where you get the Idea that are the Events From GTA Online are not canon
You forgot the connection of Javier Escuela in RDR1 and Manuel "Manny" Escuela in GTA IV.
I always like to believe that my online characters are ancestors, like my red dead character is the great great great grandmother of my GTA character
I think that in GTA6 Jason is a Marston and descendant of John and Jack. Jason Marston, doesn't that just sound right? Plus John, Jack, Jason all start with the letter J and all are outlaws. Jasons face also looks a lot like Johns face design in the RDR2 epilogue. Even if its never mentioned in GTA6, its in my head canon
Nice thought but I don’t think so
@@codgodxl5937 Yeah who knows, just a theory but I think it'd be badass if he was.
This take is gonna age so bad lmao.
How is this any different from time before GTA5 was released where people thought Michael was a old version of Tommy Vercetti.
Looks like history repeats itself every time new GTA game is announced
and if the Red Dead universe was actually Jack's book, it wouldn't be an autobiography but a fiction
Im a bit late here but something came to mind about Francis Sinclaire, what if the time machine IS the the house itself? It does not have an outline in the map
I love your page, man. Love it. I don't even bother watching anyine else's mystery or secrets videos because you are the GOAT. That being said, I definitely prefer the old style of videos. No voiceover.
Keep it up man, always making some great vids me and my bro always enjoy your content, can't wait to see what you do with GTA 6 and beyond ;)
If they're linked that means the guy wearing a John Marston shop was wearing the GTA universe equivalent of a Jesse James shirt inside a GameStop.
I remember the axe and the revolver from red dead 2 that you can find in gta online too
I think the real question is...
is GTA and LA Noire in the same universe.
Short answer: no
Long answer: LA Noire was made by Team Bondi but distributed by Rockstar so they didn't have the rights to add references plus they were more into accuracy of the 1940s but if one day Rockstars like fuck it and make an LA Noire 2, it probably gonna be way better than the first with the new game engine and all.
No,but LAN footage is used in a movie in Gta 5,same case with Max Payne 3
@@mr.andrew7820 I've never noticed that but then again I hadn't played Max Payne 3 before I made this comment
Voiceover ?
Just wanted to mention that when you're first creating your Gta online character you can choose John Marston as your ancestor. I don't know if anyone else has noticed this but I always thought that was a dead giveaway
*Father.
El Rubio's grandfather being German doesn't necessarily prove he's from the same family, although you'd need another explanation for the pictures. But I'm thinking his grandfather being German could instead be a reference to Nazis who fled to South America after WW2.
A couple things for the city and state names. You can't really use any material from before GTA IV (like the promo site for GTA III), as those aren't part of the GTA IV and V universe. But mainly, it's a problem of oversights and retcons. GTA IV mentions Florida because Rockstar hadn't come up with Leonida until GTA VI. The state name is basically retconned from Florida to Leonida.
As for places mentioned in RDR2, it's basically an oversight or lack of planning. They may have decided late into RDR2's development that it would share a universe with GTA V. Or maybe even after it released. So when it was written it made sense to reference New York, but it wasn't fixed afterward.
Please stop with the AI voices.
If Rockstar wants to do something cool, then they should add more content to rdo like fun content.
they won't because gta online = free money from kids buying shark cards, rdo = community happy, gtao = free money, rockstar cares more about the money
I'm calling it right now, we will get our answer to this debate in GTA 6, and the way it'll be answered... Saint Denis is mentioned whether by word, image, mention on the internet, a flight destination on an airline billboard, or as an actual destination for the player to go to. I also think Blackwater is based on Houston which is the 4th largest U.S. city, so that could possibly be mentioned too, but not to the extent as Saint Denis.
Mmmm do not like the voice overs, no...
Rockstar confirmed a decade ago that both franchises are in separate universes and I prefer it that way, since gta is a parody on American western culture and red dead is more cinematic and serious in tone and story.
Yeah but the trailer also kinda gave me vibes of a more emotional story at the same time
Remove the AI voice please, silent videos were way better especially given the excellent sounds fx and music. Make a community poll you'll see most people will agree.
shush
Can the next video be about Dutch cannibal theory, Mr.Strange Man?
???
Not a fan of the AI voices...
Yeah I like the silent version with the red text. Makes it feel much more ominous.
me neither
@argulswargul I prefer the red text too . I don't mind the male voice , it's okay but nahh .
The female voice is so fucking annoying, it reminds me that annoying voice over from some reels on ig .
@@argulswargulyeah
I like the male A.I. voice. Not sure if you can get him to sound more like the Strange Man in RDR1, but if you could it might be more fitting for your channel. As far as the female voice, I'm not a big fan. It feels a little bit outta nowhere when she chimes in. Overall I like that you're using AI voices, I think it'll help with your videos. It just needs a little bit of adjustment. Keep up the good work!
Herbert Moon to replace the female voice
i got the feeling Jason is a Marston bro. he reaally looks similar to John, and after knowing Jack has become a writer whose book is present in GTA5, im pretty sure he is. the name inital alrealdy tells a lot...
I don't like the idea that there are doubles of major cities in the country. 2 New Yorks, 2 LAs. It's weird.
I really hope they throw in a side mission where you meet someone with the last name Marston & they give you like a cool revolver or something. Just an idea. Without a doubt these two universes are together.
Jack live till like 1980 something I think so jacks son maybe
@@EdwardoNuttbustercould be passed down or in a museum in the city, the navy revolver and hatchet stems from red dead
@@EdwardoNuttbuster jacks son would be 60 or so in the 1980... more like jacks great grandson
@@413. not if 80yr old jack is putting in that work
Please make this the first and last video you put a voice on i enjoyed just the music and reading the subtitles. It gave it a unique feel. Please dont find my comment offensive in anyway because i mean no harm. I love your videos and i get the need for trying something new but maybe instead you could use a real voice over if any.
There is also another reference to RDR2 in GTA Online. In “the contract” dlc office, there are computers with RDR2 locations on a desktop wallpaper
I like the voice, it’s relaxing
please keep those pop ups with the blonde cartoon character away from all of us
I like how he uses the word "Parody of" in GTA and "Inspired by" in RDR2 when talking about map inspirations
Great video like always, but please stop with this cringe tik tok ai thing
Personally Is prefer the old style. Because it‘s basically YOUR style. I dont know anyone pulling it off this well and it makes the whole athmosphere more mysterious.
People really think they're different universes? I thought that the Red Dead book in GTA V by J Marston alone made it very clear that they're supposed to be connected.
Franklin could be a possible descendant of LENNY
I want to say they are connected. I don't see a reason why they wouldn't be. Some of the reasons why people dismiss it is because in Red Dead they drop real names of cities and states. Gta 3 did the same thing when a character said he was leaving to Miami. Its just names, retcons etc.
Only in the 3D Universe the real cities coexist with the Gta ones ,only the Florida-Leonida is a retcon
When you literally just say, the strange man doesn’t talk in his videos, as you’re playing the video, and then the first thing you hear is his voice saying Kifflong 😂
I hate the voices ngl but gta and red dead been in the same universe and I still don’t see how people are denying it even rockstar the past couple years has been throwing so many hints that it is alsooooo I thing the time traveler from rdr2 will show up gta 6
Maybe the time traveler from rdr2 is fucking the timeline up and maybe gta wasn’t connected but now what he doing is making the timeline fuse
Don't bring that cowgirl back ever again.
But great job man. Keep up the good work.
I can get used to the voice over, though I would heavily prefer the text to have the style of previous mute videos, before it complemented so well the style of the videos. Also, if the voiceover sticks, please ditch the girl voice, it sticks out like a sore thumb from the overall vibe from everything
I think, considering we get a challenge to kill 50 Npc's in GTA Online with an axe, and then that axe appears at the indian burial ground in RDR2, there are definitely at least links that rockstar did on purpose, and I'm thinking if there are any remnants of unsolved easter eggs in RDR2, it will be something like this, we must do something on GTA, to be able to access or unlock some code in RDR2...
I still believe!!
plot twist: time traveler in rdr2 is a dlc character from gta 6
I think that no one really believes that GTA and RDR are connected, of course it's true that Rockstar enjoy making references but that doesn't mean that they are set in the same universe.
I think in this case the Strange Man is just looking for an axe to grind by trying to better connect RDR with GTA so that the channel can survive by focusing on GTA VI.
I know this channel would be focused on Red dead, but I also realize that if we waited for the third chapter we would become old.
However this is not a criticism: I love your videos and can't wait to see you treat GTA VI like you did with RDR2; I just find myself for the first time disagreeing with one of your speculations.
the way ive viewed it for a while was that RDR and GTA are separate, however RDR has their events of all GTA games and they played out exactly the same but the only difference being the city and state names. same for GTA, they had their events of RDR play out exactly the same as well
That’s an accurate way to think about it
@@dutchvanderplan8639 It was the only answer i could come up with since Rockstar is very weird with the connection between the two.
Imagine Jack setting down, meeting a woman. Having a character in GTA 6 who knows what his great grandfathers were would be cool
I think they probably could be in the same because I saw a video where a robot fortune teller from gta who exactly says “I see a strange man in a tall hat, he frightens me” and then it clips to a video of the strange man from rdr 1.
Dude look, if you’re mute, or deaf or whatever and don’t want to talk. That’s all good, but if it’s that you think you don’t have a voice for content, I promise you that most people don’t think they do, and that no one really cares what their favorite RUclipsr sounds like.
00:28 WTF It ruined all the mysterious vibe
The games aren't in the same universe. Having New York City and Liberty City coexist is the stupidest thing I've ever heard. It doesn't make a lick of sense
Love love love the addition of voice audio to these. Finally 🎉👌
New Austin is based off Texas but Texas is mentioned in a Saint Denis newspaper in RDR2
Lucia last name will be Escuela. Mark this people!!
I do think the silent style is great, the way the videos are edited with it makes it a unique channel to watch, but I can probably live with the AI voice over. That said, the pop-up girl was really jarring and I don't know what it achieves, as it really takes away from the style and tone of the video and channel in my opinion.
Oddly, I like(d) knowing I had to sit down and pay full attention to a Strange Man video. On this one, I eventually picked up my phone like I do with many other channels and wasn't as tuned-in.
Onto the video itself, I don't think these two games are set in the same universe. I think its developer Easter Eggs that connect them more than anything, and name places from PS2/3 era GTA games have been retconned. The original Vice City game is set in Florida, not Leonida. California and NYC are referenced in Red Dead, not San Andreas or Liberty. GTA for me is a full parody portrayal of the world whereas Rockstar went for the realism route on RDR2 and it worked brilliantly.
1:00 Bro GTA V’s soundtrack is so badass